OkCornel:
You know what comes next. That’s why you’re vehemently denying the obvious and concocting an analogy theory.

Melchizedek is not an Israelite, but he is the priest of the most high God forever according to Hebrews 7 v 1-3.

That already jeopardises your position that only Israelites can be priests in God’s kingdom.

This submission of yours continues to make no sense to me. It seems instead that you need the analogy in the Hebrew epistle to be true all so you can argue against God in this. Need I remind you that I am not the one who made a promise regarding building a Kingdom of priests of the children of Israel. The Almighty did that.

Again, the Almighty informed you in Exodus 19 vs 1 - 16, that His promise to establish a Kingdom of priests is with Israel, in much the same way that the Old Law of Moses belongs only to Israel. So what in the world are you attempting to concoct by mentioning someone who is not of Israel and whose actual story does not mention him having anything to do with Israel or the kingdom of priests God spoke of creating of Israel?

Try to reason this backwards if you can. You have a statement clearly telling you that there is a kingdom of priests to rule forever, and you also have God Himself telling you from Moses that His plan is to create create Kingdom of priests of the children of Israel. Why in the world would a Melchizedek, a non Israelite matter at that point?

Kobojunkie:
This submission of yours continues to make no sense to me. It seems instead that you need the analogy in the Hebrew epistle to be true all so you can argue against God in this. Need I remind you that I am not the one who made a promise regarding building a Kingdom of priests of the children of Israel. The Almighty did that.

Again, the Almighty informed you in Exodus 19 vs 1 - 16, that His promise to establish a Kingdom of priests is with Israel, in much the same way that the Old Law of Moses belongs only to Israel. So what in the world are you attempting to concoct by mentioning someone who is not of Israel and whose actual story does not mention him having anything to do with Israel or the kingdom of priests God spoke of creating of Israel?

Try to reason this backwards if you can. You have a statement clearly telling you that there is a kingdom of priests to rule forever, and you also have God Himself telling you from Moses that His plan is to create create Kingdom of priests of the children of Israel. Why in the world would a Melchizedek, a non Israelite matter at that point?

What makes no sense is reading Hebrews 7 v 1-3 and still denying the obvious straightforward truth in there.

Is Melchizedek the priest of the most high God forever?

Kobojunkie disagrees with the author of Hebrews.

Hebrews 7 v 1-3;

1. This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him,

2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means “king of righteousness”; then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.”

3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.

Basic comprehension exercise.

tctrills, MaxinDHouse from the above passage, is Melchizedek a priest of the most high God forever?

OkCornel:
What makes no sense is reading Hebrews 7 v 1-3 and still denying the obvious straightforward truth in there.

Is Melchizedek the priest of the most high God forever?

Kobojunkie disagrees with the author of Hebrews.

What obvious straightforward "truth" abeg?

Where are the witnesses to this "truth" you speak of?

Kobojunkie:
What obvious straightforward "truth" abeg?

Where are the witnesses to this "truth" you speak of?

Basic comprehension that Melchizedek had an unending priesthood. He is a priest of the most high God. And Christ is in the order of that unending priesthood.

Hebrews 7 v 1-3;

1. This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him,

2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means “king of righteousness”; then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.”

3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.

OkCornel:
Basic comprehension that Melchizedek had an unending priesthood. He is a priest of the most high God. And Christ is in the order of that unending priesthood.

Hebrews 7 v 1-3;

1. This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him,

2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means “king of righteousness”; then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.”

3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.

Answer the questions.....What obvious straightforward "truth" abeg?

Where are the witnesses to this "truth" you speak of?

---

For the umpteenth time, there are required 2 or 3 witnesses to a truth, else what you have is not a truth. This is God's own rule as far as truths born of men are concerned.

---

And the kicker is, even if we are to assume the claim true, the mention is meaningless since Melchizedek is not of the blood of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the line to whom God made the promise of a kingdom of priests to. So I don't get why you continue to drag this one for no reason at all.

God is a God of Laws and He is faithful meaning He does not break His own Laws for any man. So if you are attempting to argue that gentiles are to be priests, then spend this time finding where God made such a proclamation instead.

Kobojunkie:
Answer the questions.....What obvious straightforward "truth" abeg?

Where are the witnesses to this "truth" you speak of?

---

For the umpteenth time, there are required 2 or 3 witnesses to a truth, else what you have is not a truth. This is God's own rule as far as truths born of men are concerned.

---

And the kicker is, even if we are to assume the claim true, the mention is meaningless since Melchizedek is not of the blood of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the line to whom God made the promise of a kingdom of priests to. So I don't get why you continue to drag this one for no reason at all.

God is a God of Laws and He is faithful meaning He does not break His own Laws for any man. So if you are attempting to argue that gentiles are to be priests, then spend this time finding where God made such a proclamation instead.

Read Isaiah 66 v 21 for God’s proclamation.

Also, Melchizedek is a priest of the most high God forever, as Hebrews 7 v 1-3 explains.

Psalms 110 v 4 makes it clear, that Christ is a priest after the order of Melchizedek.

OkCornel:
Hebrews 7 v 1-3;

1. This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him,

2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means “king of righteousness”; then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.”

3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.

Basic comprehension exercise.

tctrills, MaxinDHouse from the above passage, is Melchizedek a priest of the most high God forever?

The bible just said so.

tctrills:

The bible just said so.

Thanks.

Kobojunkie disagrees. I find it hilarious.

OkCornel:


Thanks.

Kobojunkie disagrees. I find it hilarious.

Let him argue with the Bible.

OkCornel:
Read Isaiah 66 v 21 for God’s proclamation.

Also, Melchizedek is a priest of the most high God forever, as Hebrews 7 v 1-3 explains.

Psalms 110 v 4 makes it clear, that Christ is a priest after the order of Melchizedek.

I really don't know where this is headed at this point.

▪︎Is Jesus Christ not an Israelite? Is the promise made by God not to Israelites?

▪︎In Isaiah 66, where you not told there is a these people and a those people and so some people will be made priests and levites, to rule over other people , while others will not?

Kobojunkie:
I really don't know where this is headed at this point.

▪︎Is Jesus Christ not an Israelite? Is the promise made by God not to Israelites?

▪︎In Isaiah 66, where you not told there is a these people and a those people and so some people will be made priests and levites, to rule over other people , while others will not?

Is Melchizedek an Israelite?

Did God mention at any point in the scriptures that non Israelite believers can never serve as Priests in his kingdom?

Why is Jesus Christ a priest AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK?

In analogy, don’t you compare similar things hmmm?

OkCornel:
1. Did God mention at any point in the scriptures that non Israelite believers can never serve as Priests in his kingdom?

2. Why is Jesus Christ a priest AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK?

In analogy, don’t you compare similar things hmmm?

1. According to the place where God in fact promised priesthood, the promise was specifically made by God to the Israelites in what is the Constitution He crafted for the State of Israel. And I have suggested before now, if you can find anywhere where God then remade that promise to include non-israelites, please post so we can all see. Otherwise all you are doing here is go around and around in a circle here.

2. An order is a likeness.... an analogy much like what is expressed in the letter to the Hebrews.

Similar but not same.

Jesus Christ is an Israelite so we can know for a fact that God's promise as given to the Israelites to make a Kingdom/System of Priests of them applies.

Kobojunkie:
1. According to the place where God in fact promised priesthood, the promise was specifically made by God to the Israelites in what is the Constitution He crafted for the State of Israel. And I have suggested before now, if you can find anywhere where God then remade that promise to include non-israelites, please post so we can all see. Otherwise all you are doing here is go around and around in a circle here.

2. An order is a likeness.... an analogy much like what is expressed in the letter to the Hebrews.

Similar but not same.

Jesus Christ is an Israelite so we can know for a fact that God's promise as given to the Israelites to make a Kingdom/System of Priests of them applies.

So why is Christ who is a priest of God forever likened to Melchizedek, if according to you Melchizedek is not a priest of God forever?

OkCornel:
So why is Christ who is a priest of God forever likened to Melchizedek, if according to you Melchizedek is not a priest of God forever?

I think the writer of the letter to the Hebrews makes an ok job at explaining that via his analogy which claims Melchizedek had always been a priest from his beginning.

But since Jesus Christ was born an Israelite, we are instead sure that Jesus Christ's priesthood is in accordance to God's actual promise to the Nation of Israel to making a system of priests to rule over Israel and the world..

So you see, this continued mention of Melchizedek does not help you at all in your assumption that gentiles are included in the plan. What you instead need is God's own Word declaring that gentiles will be a part of His System of priests.

Recall that the only reason gentiles are included in Jesus Christ is because God said so beginning from His promise to bless the nations of the world using the seed of Abraham, and then His sending of Jesus Christ with an offer to the world, and not just to the Israelites.

Kobojunkie:
I think the writer of the letter to the Hebrews makes an ok job at explaining that via his analogy which claims Melchizedek had always been a priest from his beginning.

But since Jesus Christ was born an Israelite, we are instead sure that Jesus Christ's priesthood is in accordance to God's actual promise to the Nation of Israel to making a system of priests to rule over Israel and the world..

So you see, this continued mention of Melchizedek does not help you at all in your assumption that gentiles are included in the plan. What you instead need is God's own Word declaring that gentiles will be a part of His System of priests.

Recall that the only reason gentiles are included in Jesus Christ is because God said so beginning from His promise to bless the nations of the world using the seed of Abraham, and then His sending of Jesus Christ with an offer to the world, and not just to the Israelites.

How is Jesus Christ is a priest of the most high God AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK if Melchizedek is not a priest in the kingdom of God forever?

How is Christ a priest of God forever, but Melchizedek is not? Hmmm?

Is the Melchizedek priesthood for Israelites only? Bearing in mind Melchizedek has no lineage connection whatsoever with the Israelites?

OkCornel:
How is Jesus Christ is a priest of the most high God AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK if Melchizedek is not a priest in the kingdom of God forever?

How is Christ a priest of God forever, but Melchizedek is not? Hmmm?

Is the Melchizedek priesthood for Israelites only? Bearing in mind Melchizedek has no lineage connection whatsoever with the Israelites?

Jesus Christ is an eternal being - Eternal Life of God - and also Jesus Christ is of Israel meaning God's Covenant with Israel applies to Him so He is a priest forever according to God's own decree to Israel.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ is an eternal being - Eternal Life of God - and also Jesus Christ is of Israel meaning God's Covenant with Israel applies to Him so He is a priest forever according to God's own decree to Israel.

Is Melchizedek also an eternal being and a priest of God forever according to Hebrews 7 v 3? Hmmm?

3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.

OkCornel:
Is Melchizedek also an eternal being and a priest of God forever according to Hebrews 7 v 3? Hmmm?

3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.

Come one, you should have figured out by now that I don't care about Melchizedek. I am concerned instead of that which applies to Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is an Israelite and God's eternal priest given He is God's Life and God's Way and Truth - John 14 vs 6. Those are reasons why Jesus Christ is God's Eternal priest. Is God's promise to the Israelites that He will make them eternal priests?

The people were not made Eternal from their beginnings, even though the promise is that they will serve God for eternity.

Kobojunkie:
Come one, you should have figured out by now that I don't care about Melchizedek. I am concerned instead of that which applies to Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is an Israelite and God's eternal priest given He is God's Life and God's Way and Truth - John 14 vs 6. Those are reasons why Jesus Christ is God's Eternal priest. Is God's promise to the Israelites that He will make them eternal priests?

The people were not made Eternal from their beginnings, even though the promise is that they will serve God for eternity.

You don’t care about Melchizedek because he’s a non-Israelite priest of the most high God forever.

Which puts a dent on your position. So I understand.

Not to mention Isaiah 66 v 2 and Revelation 5 v 9-10 and Revelation 7

OkCornel:
1. You don’t care about Melchizedek because he’s a non-Israelite priest of the most high God forever.

2. Which puts a dent on your position. So I understand.

3. Not to mention Isaiah 66 v 2 and Revelation 5 v 9-10 and Revelation 7

1. Pretty much!

2. Only an imagined one since the promise from God is that made to isrealites, a requirement which Jesus Christ meets well.

3. Revelations 5 vs 9 - 10 specifically addresses those bought by the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the jews who He is King over. And Isaiah 66 vs 2 does not in anyway contravention God's declaration in Exodus 19 vs 1 - 6 regarding the System of priests he will make of Israel..

Kobojunkie:
1. Pretty much!

2. Only an imagined one since the promise from God is that made to isrealites, a requirement which Jesus Christ meets well.

3. Revelations 5 vs 9 - 10 specifically addresses those bought by the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the jews who He is King over. And Isaiah 66 vs 2 does not in anyway contravention God's declaration in Exodus 19 vs 1 - 6 regarding the System of priests he will make of Israel..

Revelation 5 v 9-10 and the uncountable multitude of people from all tribes, languages, nations in Revelation 7 are not Israelites only.

Where did John write these people are Israelites only?

Kobojunkie:
1. Pretty much!

2. Only an imagined one since the promise from God is that made to isrealites, a requirement which Jesus Christ meets well.

3. Revelations 5 vs 9 - 10 specifically addresses those bought by the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the jews who He is King over. And Isaiah 66 vs 2 does not in anyway contravention God's declaration in Exodus 19 vs 1 - 6 regarding the System of priests he will make of Israel..

Jesus Christ (an Israelite), is a priest in the order of Melchizedek (a non-Israelite). Says a whole lot.

Both are priests of the most high God forever.

OkCornel:
Revelation 5 v 9-10 and the uncountable multitude of people from all tribes, languages, nations in Revelation 7 are not Israelites only.

Where did John write these people are Israelites only?

.For what is the Umpteenth time, Verse 9 of Revelations 5 explains that the multitude referenced are those bought by killing and blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Whereas verse 15 - 16 of Revelations 7 speaks of the multitude being made up of those who will worship God in His temple day and night.

Both point to those of Israelites background.

Kobojunkie:
.For what is the Umpteenth time, Verse 9 of Revelations 5 explains that the multitude referenced are those bought by killing and blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Whereas verse 15 - 16 of Revelations 7 speaks of the multitude being made up of those who will worship God in His temple day and night.

Both point to those of Israelites background.

Revelation 5 and 7 clearly states that the multitude will be priests in God’s kingdom.

Where did John write that these people are only Israelites?

OkCornel:
Revelation 5 and 7 clearly states that the multitude will be priests in God’s kingdom.

Where did John write that these people are only Israelites?

It seems you are all out of steam at this point.

Kobojunkie:
It seems you are all out of steam at this point.

Revelation 5 and 7 clearly states that the multitude will be priests in God’s kingdom.

Where did John write that these people are only Israelites?

OkCornel:
Revelation 5 and 7 clearly states that the multitude will be priests in God’s kingdom.

Where did John write that these people are only Israelites?

Again...It seems you are all out of steam at this point.

Kobojunkie:
Again...It seems you are all out of steam at this point.

Revelation 5 and 7 clearly states that the multitude will be priests in God’s kingdom.

Where did John write that these people are only Israelites?

OkCornel:
Revelation 5 and 7 clearly states that the multitude will be priests in God’s kingdom.

Where did John write that these people are only Israelites?

Again...It seems you are all out of steam at this point.

Maybe we should call it a day.

Revelation 5 v 9-10;

9 And they sang a new song, saying:
“You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.
10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.”


Kobojunkie, where exactly did Apostle John write that the persons from every TRIBE, language, people and nation are only Israelites?

When did the “12 tribes of Israel” automatically translate to “people from every tribe”?

OkCornel:
Revelation 5 v 9-10;

9 And they sang a new song, saying:
“You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.
10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.”


Kobojunkie, where exactly did Apostle John write that the persons from every TRIBE, language, people and nation are only Israelites?

When did the “12 tribes of Israel” automatically translate to “people from every tribe”?

Again...It seems you are all out of steam at this point.

Maybe we should call it a day.