Prism:
Hello nairaland family

Before I begin let's define toddlerhood;

Toddler: 1-3 years. Preschooler: 3-5 years. School-aged: 5-12 years. Teenager: 13-18 years.

Is it necessary to start flogging toddlers?? I married a yoruba man And I noticed his sisters like flogging their kids including their toddlers. I'm not used to seeing little children being flogged not to talk of toddlers and I get this cringe feeling when I see it. Is it a cultural thing? Is that how the whole tribe Is like? Does flogging a child actually make him or her better Or is it not just child abuse
I do feel somehow seeing people flogging 2yr old, 3yr old kids. I feel somehow. What do you guys think

incogni2o:


Be careful Bro.

This is not a time to joke about this.

Future happiness is important.

Discipline a child firmly and also Love Dearly.

I'm talking and moulding him, can't use violence to solve violence all the time. He is strong spirited, I don't want to break him. He will need the fighting spirit in life

mariahAngel:


Emotions are a part of me.

When I say beat, I didn't mean the normal shaa aka gi type that is appropriate to correct a child.

You should see where some beastly adults are torturing helpless children, in the name of disciplining them, just because they can. Ugh!
I just can't deal.

mmsen:


It is still abuse. It is outlawed in much of western Europe.

America is a terrible example - it is by far and away the most violent, crime ridden nation in the industrialized world.

Munzy14:

Cool.

I will agree if it is not a case of hurting an innocent child..Mana nwata me suo ahia, utari aga ya na ahu..

Though not all the time..

So Di gi piawa umu unu ihe, ga si ya mba?

DaddyFreeze2020:



New International Version
Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.

New Living Translation
Those who spare the rod of discipline hate their children. Those who love their children care enough to discipline them.

English Standard Version
Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.

Berean Standard Bible
He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him disciplines him diligently.

King James Bible
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

New King James Version
He who spares his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him promptly.

New American Standard Bible
He who withholds his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him diligently.

NASB 1995
He who withholds his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him diligently.

NASB 1977
He who spares his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him diligently.

Amplified Bible
He who withholds the rod [of discipline] hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines and trains him diligently and appropriately [with wisdom and love].

Christian Standard Bible
The one who will not use the rod hates his son, but the one who loves him disciplines him diligently.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
The one who will not use the rod hates his son, but the one who loves him disciplines him diligently.

American Standard Version
He that spareth his rod hateth his son; But he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Everyone that spares concerning his rod, hates his son, and he that loves his son disciplines him earnestly.

Brenton Septuagint Translation
He that spares the rod hates his son: but he that loves, carefully chastens him.

Contemporary English Version
If you love your children, you will correct them; if you don't love them, you won't correct them.

Douay-Rheims Bible
He that spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes.

Good News Translation
If you don't punish your children, you don't love them. If you do love them, you will correct them.

International Standard Version
Whoever does not discipline his son hates him, but whoever loves him is diligent to correct him.

JPS Tanakh 1917
He that spareth his rod hateth his son; But he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Literal Standard Version
Whoever is sparing his rod is hating his son, And whoever is loving him has hurried his discipline.

New American Bible
Whoever spares the rod hates the child, but whoever loves will apply discipline.

NET Bible
The one who spares his rod hates his child, but the one who loves his child is diligent in disciplining him.

New Revised Standard Version
Those who spare the rod hate their children, but those who love them are diligent to discipline them.

New Heart English Bible
One who spares the rod hates his son, but one who loves him is careful to discipline him.

World English Bible
One who spares the rod hates his son, but one who loves him is careful to discipline him.

Young's Literal Translation
Whoso is sparing his rod is hating his son, And whoso is loving him hath hastened him chastisement.

SeriouslySense:
, so how do you help him understand or correct himself.

Karleb:


Asian countries allow Corporal punishment and they turn out to be better humans than most American and European adults.

What is your basis for saying Corporal punishment is abuse?

mariahAngel:


M ga si ya piashi ha ike ma ha mee ihe ojoo.

leofab:
you mean they will be doing it secretly ?

mmsen:


Asians do not. Asian societies are very abusive in general. They are not to be emulated.

Munzy14:

Hahahahaha this comment though

You are to join in the disciplining to avoid kids tagging one parent Bad and the other good.

mariahAngel:
There's no injustice worse than beating a child.
Whoever hurts a child will suffer the consequence(s).
There are other ways to discipline a child than torture.

GboyegaD:


Then it wasn't necessarily the flogging but the responsible parenting they experienced.

Prism:


This is exactly what my sis in law told me.
Hmmm. This matter has really got me thinking

Karleb:


Can you prove your claim?

mariahAngel:


Hahahahahahaha

Munzy14:

You gerrit

mmsen:


You're really asking me for proof of the abuse of citizenry in Asia? Are you saying that you are oblivious to what has been stated ad nauseam?

Uighur Genocide
https://www.westernjournal.com/chinas-uighur-genocide-everything-need-know-ccps-human-rights-abuses/

Chinese Citizens Are Starving, Jumping From Balconies To Their Deaths After Weeks Of ‘COVID Zero’ Lockdown
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/chinese-citizens-starving-jumping-balconies-death-weeks-covid-zero-lockdown/

Chinese workers allege forced labor, abuses in Xi’s ‘Belt and Road’ program
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/china-labor-belt-road-covid/2021/04/30/f110e8de-9cd4-11eb-b2f5-7d2f0182750d_story.html


Chikan In Japan: 4 Horrific Stories
https://japantruly.com/chikan-in-japan/

The Enduringly Toxic Work Culture Of Japan
https://studybreaks.com/thoughts/japan-work-culture/


South Korea’s Troubling History of Jailing Ex-presidents
https://www.aei.org/foreign-and-defense-policy/asia/south-koreas-troubling-history-of-jailing-ex-presidents/

Half of all living former South Korean presidents are now in prison. On October 5, 2018, former president Lee Myung-bak was sentenced to 15 years for embezzling 24.6 billion won (roughly $22 million). Lee will join his successor, disgraced ex-president Park Geun-hye, who last year began her 25-year sentence for various charges of corruption. Lee and Park’s lengthy prison sentences may seem striking for an established democracy. But the reality is these sentences are not anomalies; rather, they reveal how tenuous South Korea’s hold on democracy really is.

That took me all of five minutes to find. If I wished to waste more time doing so I could have found thousands of interesting links for you on China alone. Not to speak of the other Asian nations. I didn't even mention Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia or the other Asian countries where abuse of power is rife.

Mindlog:
No, disciplining a toddler should not involve flogging.

In as much as some Nigerians do "glorify" the beatings (some qualifies as near murder as brutality was normalized) they received as children (personally, I regard it as unhealthy coping mechanism), we need to ask how that has manifested in the adults we have in Nigeria today.

Oyibo dey spoil pikin, na the same spoilt pikins who become adults they manage their countries and many Africans with the severe beatings as children, are the ones queueing up at the embassy for Visa to those countries.

AutoChick4U:
Omo you really need to shape toddlers o cos they an copy anything so you need to be firm in correcting them

Spandau:


Please make a clarification. Is it spanking or flogging?

dave601:


Bro, caning a child (2-15) when necessary is good. From my own personal life experience, and having dealt with different levels of students as an educationist.

It doesn't always work with older children, but it's perfect with anything 2 to roughly 9 or 15.

But once they get immune to flogging, then it's too late. You might as well be trying to correct a healthy He-goat. Cos you failed to start earlier. And being rude, wayward or stupid as become normal or praiseworthy to him/her.

The bible says you shall Beat him with a rod, and deliver his soul from hell... (Provb 23:14).

I laughed when I read this part of your comment : healthy he-goat.

Thank you for your advice. God bless you.


God bless.

Protein0:

You have kids yet?

ravensckar:
It's obvious you're not of marriageable age talk less of having a child. How does beating a child amount to injustice? Please kindly stick to topics that are befitting of your age grades.

My daughter was as stubborn as a bull at age 1+. Always breaking things and slamming her head on the wall whenever she's angry (especially if you deny her something she wants). The moment I started using my hanger and tiny rod on her, that spirit of stubbornness and vandalism left her before she clocked 2 years. Now at 5, she has become a well behaved child that other parents want their children to emulate.

Who get time for nonsense?