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Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by FarmTech(m): 11:21pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
UnusualEmissary:. Don't u think that there is a time to build and a time to pull down? There is time for everything oo. War is bad, but if some mad people force it on you, give it to them full force. America just like to find trouble. 1 Like |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by MT: 11:49pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
Teaser4:Nice write up but I bet to disagree on some points. 1. The US is not meant to fight Russia directly because they are both nuclear powers. However, once Russia launches nuclear weapon on Ukraine soil to a devastating effects, all bets are off. US, with or without NATO will fight Russia with a conventional weapon. Some retired and active operatives were interviewed about what the US would do incase Russia fires nuclear weapon in Ukraine, it makes for an interesting read: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/russia-ukraine-nuclear-weapon-us-response/661315/ and know that Bush Senior ordered all the US tactical nuclear weapons to be removed and destroyed when he was the US president. Russian chose to keep their own. Thats why it appears that Russia has more. However, only one thousand plus of these Russia nuclear missiles are active. And the US still has the largest nuclear weapon delivery mechanism in the world. 2. US and NATO have the means to declare no fly zone in Ukraine. They dont just want to do it so as not make NATO to be an offensive unit. But once Russia crosses the rubicon, fires the nuclear weapon, then no fly zone being enforced and Russia military engaged. If Putin fires nuclear weapon for the second time, Russia will be turned to a nuclear dust. Read that atlantic I sent to you. Also if you have the time, watch this Biden omnious warning to Putin about the use of nuclear of weapon. Watch as his countenance changes while warning Putin. US army cant be compared to those rag tag Russian army. https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/09/18/biden-warns-putin-60-minutes-nuclear-weapon-nr-vpx.cnn |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Teaser4(m): 11:55pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
MT: 1. You made some salient points too, but I had to bold that first, Usa and nato has no obligation to defend Ukraine, even if dem collect nuke, why? It’s simple cos Ukraine isn’t part of NATO, so article 5 won’t come up. God forbid Ukraine getting nuke, but if dem collect one ICBM, my brother life goes on cos Russia will never fight a conventional war with no nato countries, putin will use the faster means to hell for both sides, heck the elites go survive thanks to their bunkers. I don’t think nuclear deterrence is for Ukraine, it’s for USA and Nato… 2. I have to disagree with you once again, usa and nato have no means to declare no fly zone in Ukraine. The meaning of NFZ be say they are actively involved in the war, cos they have to shoot down russian planes. There’s no stipulated methods in war, you fit hit your enemies anyhow and anywhere with whatever weapons in your arsenal. That’s why the issue of NFZ was dead on arrival. Russia will never fight conventional war with USA, putin prepare ahead for this, it didn’t start in feb 24, na years of preparations…. Nah why he Dey reiterate say e no Dey “bluff” and by all the western leaders don sabi say e no Dey bluff 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Ola4lead(m): 11:55pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
shogsman: Really!!!
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Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by MT: 12:02am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Teaser4: Note that I stressed something - US, with or without NATO, will fight Russia with CONVENTIONAL means if Russia attempts to launch nuclear weapon. And before US does that, it will ensure it raises all the dust in the UN to make countries aware of the implication of Russia action, and by extension turning Russia to a Pariah state. Then, US will directly engage Russia with conventional means. If Putin fires nuclear again, then US will be forced to do the same. And if Putin fires on the US, article 5 will be triggered and NATO will be drawn in. US will not sit idly by and allow Russia to dictate to her. You should know the States by now. US will not allow China to learn positive lessons from this. US will want to show the rest of the countries that want to toe the same path as Russia what awaits them. Ukraine will not stop attacking Donbas even after the sham referendum. Just watch! One of the US military officers said something - In war time, you do not fear the known weapons as you can build defence against them, but fear the unknown. That is chilling. US is built for wars and can take on China and Russia at the same time. 3 Likes |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Teaser4(m): 12:04am On Sep 22, 2022 |
MT:I get your points, but big boys don’t fight conventional wars, why dem Dey build ICBMs in the first place, dem no build am for fashion, na for destruction…. The premise isn’t valid bro, cos it’s not realistic. There won’t be a conventional with USA or nato…. You can fact-check me anytime. 2. That’s the main goal of the referendum, once it’s done let em attack Donbass first, then we’ll have the conversation. Lmao, you watch too much American movies, USA has never fight any super power in history, all the matches dem dey play so far na like Manchester city v Nothingham forest …. I don’t want to dig , make we leave that matter… 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by MT: 12:07am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Teaser4: US will want to rally the rest of the world that Russia is an irresponsible country. And before Russia can fire an ICBM, it takes hours. It will have to be transported over along distance to a place where it will be fitted to a missile. US sees all these, and US has the means to attack the control of Russia and make the ICBM fails or a pre-emptive strike. Everything is on the table. The Russia armies are big jokes and strained from the war, if the US or NATO or both step in, it is game over. 2 Likes |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Teaser4(m): 12:09am On Sep 22, 2022 |
MT:they already did that and failed woefully, and will fail anytime wey dem try am… That’s dead on arrival too I don Laff piss for pants here oo…. Try to watch news from both sides… I do. I watch and read news from all western sources and Russia source too…. I go take that as sarcasm sha |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by MT: 12:10am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Teaser4: I will especially look for you when Ukraine does not stop attacking Donbas. US will not allow Russia to redraw the map of Ukraine through the barrel of guns. I will look for you by next week. Even Germany said they would continue to pump Ukraine with weapon and US says their commitment is clear, and they will not stop propping up Ukraine. Just watch 1 Like |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Teaser4(m): 12:12am On Sep 22, 2022 |
MT:please mention anytime, I’ll respond. Any attack on Donbass after the referendum, Goodluck to Ukrainians God will keep us safe to see how things go unfold 1 Like |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by MT: 12:13am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Teaser4: Do you know how many countries that voted to allow Zelensky delivered his message via video link at the UN today. 101 countries, against 7 countries who voted against it. You called that failed? All the countries that matter have turned Russia to a Pariah, and Russia is at mercy of countries like China, Iran and North Korea. You called that failed? You make me laugh 2 Likes |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Teaser4(m): 12:16am On Sep 22, 2022 |
MT:Do you know what they called “UN Security Council”…I mean those 5 permanent members with veto powers… Those are countries….vote to allow him talk, isn’t a big deal and won’t change anything, not China’s mind….. Russia and China are business partners, do you know how much money they generated in the last few months. Lol Putin and Xi are like brothers. USA and nato can’t break the bound and it’s mutual respect, pls stay away from cnn….they lie effortlessly Xi: Putin my brother… it’s deep What I meant by failed is that they failed to convince China, India etc, that why they always abstain… if too say China side with west ni, the war go don end since… tha thing Dey pain usa gan… China no just send em Winter is coming , Europe go hear am…. China Dey enjoy Russia cheap gas, even Saudi Arabia dey buy Russia cheap gas 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by MT: 12:21am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Teaser4: That is where you mixed it up. That was very symbolic. That shows whose sides these countries are. Do you know what NPT is and do u know the message those countries that form NPT made this year. Yet, Russia, being a rogue nation, after making a firm committment not to use nuclear weapon made a detour on its words a month later. Russia knows they dont have the capabilities of the United States military. No country in the world right now has it. Just Himars from the US changed the tide of the war and some intelligence that US shared with the Ukrainian army. US sees, US knows. The rag tag Russia military ran and left weapons behind. It was a disgrace and the supposedly once feared russian military is now butt of jokes. 2 Likes |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Teaser4(m): 12:23am On Sep 22, 2022 |
MT:next week no far, the referendum starts on Friday… make we continue this conversation next week… I want to go and rest. Pls quote me anytime…. Stay away from cnn lol. |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by MT: 12:30am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Teaser4: China and Russia do not enjoy mutual respect. Russia is at the mercy of China. And Biden has repeatedly warned China that if it attempts to help Russia circumvent the sanctions imposed on Russia, their will be consequences. China has not moved the needle since then. Thats what the US does. If not for US, China would have invaded Taiwan. US told them "dont dare". Biden has warned repeatedly there will be america boots on the ground if China does and US military will engage the Chinese. US is bigger and more fierce than you think. They do what they wish, you cannot tell them what to do. That is what that country with the stars and the stripes flag does - The United States of America. See you next week..... 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Bigpat: 12:40am On Sep 22, 2022 |
He is lamenting now, the table Is turning, when he was advised to settle with Ukraine and stop the unprovoked war, he did not agree, because he thinks he has what it takes to finish Ukraine in three days, he refused to listen to the West, now he said, the West is not interested in a peaceful solution and making compromises, that they just want to break all negotiations. Which negotiations again. You want to fight, then fight, nuclear weapon my foot, you think fighting is good, you know how it will start but you don't know how it will end, everybody suffers at the end. He will like to end the war now but shame will not allow him. A country that majority of it's citizen do not support the war. Nigeria should check the mental health of those vying to be president ooo, although in Nigeria's case, corruption, greed and leadership mental health that will be checked with little of psycho. 4 Likes |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by loswhite(m): 12:51am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Teaser4:Even Putin knows that you are very foolish to post this nonsense...lol 1 Like |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Teaser4(m): 12:54am On Sep 22, 2022 |
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Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by toxtimmy: 1:03am On Sep 22, 2022 |
No clean water, no NEPA, no education, no health care, no good roads, kidnapping everywhere, bandits and ISIS around you but na Russia you want to go fight... Make you go jump off 3rd mainland bridge and you will arrive in Russia... no forget to take your cutlass with you and also no forget to wear your shoe on your head oh Corridon: |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 3:40am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Teaser4:If you posted a sensible thing you will not be afraid of being quoted. Goat! 1 Like |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by leofab(f): 4:04am On Sep 22, 2022 |
shogsman:1200 arrested in a 100 men protestS.. Nice intuition 1 Like |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Ibime(m): 4:27am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Teaser4: You are getting emotional Putard. You are a heartless human being who has been glorying in unprovoked murder of innocents for months. Now e dey pain you gaga as your Lord Putard dey collect wotowoto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPo6FpdRqFI |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Ibime(m): 4:36am On Sep 22, 2022 |
planetx: Mumu, referendum in a place you don't control Russia only controls 50% of Donbass, are holding referendum in Zaporizhia Oblast while Ukraine actually controls the city of Zaporizhia, referendum in Kherson that fighting is ongoing in, and even Luhansk is not 100% controllled. A Putard superstory 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Mrtaye: 5:22am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Teaser4:I don't understand you naw cos it seems you are shifting the goal post,is dombass is Russia territory and is it right to steal another country? |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Akuruoulo(m): 5:34am On Sep 22, 2022 |
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Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Akuruoulo(m): 5:52am On Sep 22, 2022 |
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Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Caseless: 5:55am On Sep 22, 2022 |
shogsman:Putin didn't even mention civilians, but the western media said civilians are running. |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by funshint(m): 6:08am On Sep 22, 2022 |
KaLuCh:His military reserve; not civilians. Go and read well! |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Themandator: 7:55am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Teaser4: Mumu which of the news sources are you to trust now, going forward seeing that all the so called telegram post declaring that Russia as Victor has ended up in smoke How your tiny brains believed that a country whose total military budget is not up to ten percent of the budget of the US alone on defense will make a dent in a conventional war with the US is a proof of your strong mumuness HIMARS.. Just HIMARS not even with ATACSM missile system that travels at Mach 3.5 and all stealthy with a reach of 300km This is just HIMARS with 84km reach 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by Themandator: 7:55am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Teaser4: Mumu which of the news sources are you to trust now, going forward seeing that all the so called telegram post declaring that Russia as Victor has ended up in smoke How your tiny brains believed that a country whose total military budget is not up to ten percent of the budget of the US alone on defense will make a dent in a conventional war with the US is a proof of your strong mumuness HIMARS.. Just HIMARS not even with ATACSM missile system that travels at Mach 3.5 and all stealthy with a reach of 300km This is just HIMARS with 84km reach Mumu pikin |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by KaLuCh: 7:57am On Sep 22, 2022 |
funshint: His military reserve and civilians are protesting in the street and leaving the country in droves? You dey tell me to read well but na you no know wetin you dey talk. |
Re: Putin Announces Partial Mobilisation, Threatens Use Of Nuclear Weapons by KaLuCh: 7:59am On Sep 22, 2022 |
Caseless: Be honest, did you watch the news? Secondly, you called western media, abeg, are civilians not leaving Russia? |
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