erico2k2:
Well according to the narrative you gave up there dont you think since its the man who has the problem then they can have IVF?cos if I was a doctor and declare someone impotent, I will then have to tell them their options?
NB:
Guys these discussions and posting we all are having here might be key to some readers happiness, some people are actually in need of these info like yesterday, we might be joking about ir throwing banter etc, but trust me its a big deal in some people's life right about now.

The man send you say na him be the problem? You are told the woman is accused of being barren and is about to be kicked out of her marriage under false accusation. Who wan hear IVF from you?

Kobojunkie:
I understand the people's fear since no one wants a baby factory in their neighborhood cause it could be their daughter next.

Boarding all surrogates together in a place can raise suspicions and yes, it is right that the police are made aware of what is going on too.

Yes and I agree, these are the issues. People need more enlightened, so these mothers do not get stressed and humanified and subjected to ridiculed. I have seen where a doctor has a big clinic with at least 20 rooms to accommodate expectant women, now he is rich, but for some, the customer has to find accommodation for them or bound them in a flat or some sort of accommodation to reduce cost.

Kobojunkie:
The man send you say na him be the problem? You are told the woman is accused of being barren and is about to be kicked out of her marriage under false accusation. Who wan hear IVF from you?

I recon you go back and read what you wrote, you said the man was or if he was impotent not the woman.I think you lost yourself there bro!

erico2k2:

I know it's not 100% but that's where surrogacy came in as back up, one can be 200 years old and still have a surrogate mother!

Surrogacy doesn’t make it 100% either and you are still missing out all the major characteristics of the women in question.

pocohantas:


Surrogacy doesn’t make it 100% either and you are still missing out all the major characteristics of the women in question.

Yes it doesn't but you can re try as much times as you want there is no limit, unlike IVF

Ireportlive:


Nigerian factor!!

Well I think these are burning issues that our lawmakers should legislate on..

They can give confidentiality to the parties involved in adoption process, and have proper documented agreement handle by ministry of women affiars, or welfare department

Right now abortion is illegal, Baby factory is also illegal, surrogacy is very expensive same as IVF.. the least the government can do is to make adoption process easier and less shamefull

shatap what do you know

erico2k2:

I recon you go back and read what you wrote, you said the man was or if he was impotent not the woman.I think you lost yourself there bro!

You are not following is what.

The man as I stated is the impotent one, but in a country where women are mostly to blame when a couple is childless, what do you intend for the woman to do? Invite the husband who refuses to accept he is the fault to IVF clinic for tests and procedures?

erico2k2:

Yes it doesn't but you can re try as much times as you want there is no limit, unlike IVF

They should keep retrying with millions when a pastor/doctor has promised them one sure hit. Interesting!

Ireportlive:



Why not just make adoption process more easier

Anyways according to some reports, ritualist buy them and pound them live making different soaps

Almost everything and parts of a new born baby is potent in making different charms

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shatap what do you know

Two02:
What happens to the babies born in factories i.n the southern Part of the country are they sold abroad illegally for organ exporting

They are sold to Jews in israhell for their human sacrifices to their god, molech.

Kobojunkie:
You are not following is what.

The man as I stated is the impotent one, but in a country where women are mostly to blame when a couple is childless, what do you intend for the woman to do? Invite the husband who refuses to accept he is the fault to IVF clinic for tests and procedures?

Well, you said if a man is Impotent. Then if it was established the man is impotent it means they already have gone to a family clinic cos only such places can declare on impotent!SO he is halfway there to knowing what options is available unless he is being mischievous.

pocohantas:


They should keep retrying with millions when a pastor/doctor has promised them one sure hit. Interesting!

That of pastors, hmm no comment.Im going to stick to the science part of it

Two02:
What happens to the babies born in factories i.n the southern Part of the country are they sold abroad illegally for organ exporting

they sell them to ritualist

womenareapezz:
some are sold to be spare parts for ritualist.

Most of those babies are sold to the south dustbin part of the country to use for ritualist

no such like in d south. U re actually referring to d demonic eastern Nigeria. They re something else

erico2k2:

Well, you said if a man is Impotent. Then if it was established the man is impotent it means they already have gone to a family clinic cos only such places can declare on impotent! SO he is halfway there to knowing what options is available unless he is being mischievous.

No, a man doesn't need to see a doctor to know he is not shooting on all cylinders. Some folks know from even a child hood accident that things didn't turn out so well down there.

asanausana91:
They are the ipob terrorists of today.

Mynd44:
They are sold to families who can't have babies for one reason or another. Or unsuspecting women under the guise of Ectopic pregnancy

In the second case, a woman who has had issues with conceiving goes to them, they inject her with meds that will cause accumulation of fluid in her belly then warn her not to do scan as the pregnancy is ectopic.

After nine months, they drug the mother up and present a baby from the factory as the baby she delivered.

Deep!

Kobojunkie:
No, a man doesn't need to see a doctor to know he is not shooting on all cylinders. Some folks know from even a child hood accident that things didn't turn out so well down there.

I cannot speak on non-proven entity; I can only comment on what science can support! I will leave that for men on ground to debate, I am sticking to the science part as this is what I know and can debate on!

asanausana91:
They are the ipob terrorists of today.

True talk the menace will end with them within

erico2k2:

I cannot speak on non-proven entity; I can only comment on what science can support! I will leave that for men on ground to debate, I am sticking to the science part as this is what I know and can debate on!

Because science is the rule of the day in all of Nigeria, baby factories included?

Mynd44:
They are sold to families who can't have babies for one reason or another. Or unsuspecting women under the guise of Ectopic pregnancy

In the second case, a woman who has had issues with conceiving goes to them, they inject her with meds that will cause accumulation of fluid in her belly then warn her not to do scan as the pregnancy is ectopic.

After nine months, they drug the mother up and present a baby from the factory as the baby she delivered.

Jesus Christ!!!!!!!

Mynd44:
They are sold to families who can't have babies for one reason or another. Or unsuspecting women under the guise of Ectopic pregnancy

In the second case, a woman who has had issues with conceiving goes to them, they inject her with meds that will cause accumulation of fluid in her belly then warn her not to do scan as the pregnancy is ectopic.

After nine months, they drug the mother up and present a baby from the factory as the baby she delivered.

Don't mind those women deceiving people.... I wonder who is still a mumu in Nigeria...
The pregnancy doesn't grow (develope). No changes on the supposed preg mum, they don't visit any other hospital except that their secret chamber they call whatever.... They don't give birth anywhere else except same place. It grows in a sac indeed.... Desperation!!

Mynd44:
They are sold to families who can't have babies for one reason or another. Or unsuspecting women under the guise of Ectopic pregnancy

In the second case, a woman who has had issues with conceiving goes to them, they inject her with meds that will cause accumulation of fluid in her belly then warn her not to do scan as the pregnancy is ectopic.

After nine months, they drug the mother up and present a baby from the factory as the baby she delivered.

Goddamn.
If I could remember, my aunt her friend had a baby for her husband, just like this and she encouraged my aunt to do the same, but they didn't tell her it was just accumulation of fluid the meds they inject her with was gon cause in her stomach, she believed it was pose to smh automatically make her system create a child after intercourse with her husband. Yunno how women be when they want kids badly, so she opened up to her husband and carried him along thru the whole process

To cut the long story short

Mid the pregnancy period someone told her there's no child in her stomach I think a doc or it's a pastor, she was scared but she didn't believe there's no child in her, after carrying a big stomach for 9mnths it's time to conceive the baby, the hospital told her "they ran out of the meds that's gon enable her conceive" she walked around with the big stomach for more than 9mnths only to figure out the clinic is only giving her the baby frm a factory, damn that's heart broken, she refused to take baby home, she went bacc home then called her friend to ask her, crying and all. but ol lady denied, she claimed she really did conceived her own baby in the clinic. Aunt had to accept her fate after all the money spent and church fasting and walking around.

"This information just confirms it's either her friend also got lied to, or she knew but lied to her husband and friends and family. or maybe her husband knew. Who knows ��‍♂️

now I can credit my aunt for keeping it a buck with her husband... Sh!t is wildd out here
been 4yrs since then!

esthel:

That's not his point, a lot of times not all this women are learned enough to go check what ectopic pregnancy is.

So that's the bogus term they tell them and that it doesn't show when scanned. Another term they use is cryptic pregnancy.

They just keep pumping drugs to make you look pregnant without even checking whether your system will be OK with it. Lots of women die as a result.

That terrible!

asanausana91:
They are the ipob terrorists of today.

Better than the uncircumcised Islamic terrorists

asanausana91:
They are the ipob terrorists of today.

Better than the smelly uncircumcised Islamic terrorists

Ireportlive:



Why not just make adoption process more easier

Anyways according to some reports, ritualist buy them and pound them live making different soaps

Almost everything and parts of a new born baby is potent in making different charms

.

Blood of Zachariah!!!?

Kobojunkie:
Because science is the rule of the day in all of Nigeria, baby factories included?

i can only speak for myself, I deal and debate on things science can explain, I leave the reast to the more tradionalist.

ngadaAwo:
shatap what do you know

nah u shuld be the one to shatap what he or she is saying actually makes sense to me