davidylan:

Should i also get you your glasses and read it to you? Want me to show you where you can get air to breathe too?
If you cant find them then you really have no interest, its simply part of the cynical brainless games you folks play around here thinking no one else would be bothered to cross-check your "facts".

davidylan:

Because 90% of "expert scientists" are mostly godless themselves. What a surprise.

davidylan:

dodging what?   Dumb.

davidylan:

I already know that. I'm just wondering why you prefer to take such a giant leap. Deliberate obfuscation and dishonesty seems to be the staple of the "scientific" atheist. Why is he so obsessed about "evolution" while pretending the very origin of that evolving life is less important?

davidylan:

Idehn, mantraa and myself have been doing that over the last few pages. Take a read.

davidylan:

I'm not bothered so much about the biologists, but about the empty-headed folks here who parrot research they cant explain.

thehomer:

Keep running. You will note that during my discussions with you, I have often presented you with links. Is it so hard to link to your own posts that you think answer the question? Now how is that for being lazy? Have you forgotten what you said and where that you think I'll waste my time trudging through 16 pages looking for your regular muck?

thehomer:

90% of the expert scientists are godless therefore evolution must be false? Wow. And you call this a logical and rational thought given the fact that there are people who believe in God that also agree with the theory of evolution.

thehomer:

See your remark above for what it means to be dumb.

thehomer:

What giant leap?
I never said or implied that the origin of life wasn't important, I'm simply pointing out to you what evolution is about.
Here you go running off at the mouth about dishonesty and obfuscation when that is what you're doing.

thehomer:

You just said only biologists could explain their research and that non-biologists cannot. Has any of them told you that they were biologists? How hard is it for you to be consistent with your own statements? Here it is for reference.

thehomer:

Or was it a temporary memory loss?

cultey:

Atheists, you all want proof as to whether GOD is real or not, ok, watch these videos of your fellow ex-atheists!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59mRZ1Vj8ZU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRSjzY0s0SM&feature=related


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvIbqf7MuE0

If you want more, I'll be more than glad to post more vidzzzzz, ok?

davidylan:

u're wasting your time.

how?

cultey:

how?

davidylan:

Are you that lazy? Essentially the discussion with Idehn is only 1 + half page away on page 14! Seriously? I need to provide a link to a thread most intelligent people can read in less than 1 hr? All the time its taken you to blow hot air, you would have finished reading through the thread by now?

davidylan:

You already call it muck so its clear you're not interested in learning anything . . . seems your mind is made up into the narrow unintelligent illogical "science = good, religionist = dumb" mindset. I cant help you.

davidylan:

again stup[i]i[/i]d. 90% of expert scientists are godless . . . its not a stretch to think a very high percentage of them are already biased to looking at the origin of the earth and evolution from a godless perspective ONLY.
You want me to say this slowly so it can sink in?

davidylan:

you could have simply said you werent smart enough to understand it.

davidylan:

Dont bother, i already know what evolution is all about. My problem is with those who want to "discuss" evolution out of context. First start with the origin of what exactly it is you think is evolving. Or you think the starting material just appeared from nowhere and started evolving?

You cant be discussing integration when you havent even talked about elementary algebra. But again its thehomer . . .

davidylan:

I never said such. Try to be honest or intelligent for once. This is what i said - I'm not bothered so much about the biologists, but about the empty-headed folks here who parrot research they cant explain.

The biologists may have their own problems with investigator interference in their own research but at least they have demonstrated the ability to think logically and try to come up with scientific solutions to their problems. My angst is with the empty-headed tools HERE, you know the braying sheep posting the regurgitated science they dont understand and cant defend when push comes to shove.

davidylan:

more like your own slowness.

harakiri:

Hmmm, the thread is still on and unsurprisingly, the dress-wearing-secretary-turned-lab cleaner by the name DAVIDYLAN is still talking baseless crap as usual as if he can prove how he evoled from SAND like his bible claims. Sand man! Lol

thehomer:

Out of context? You know what its all about yet you make the most basic mistake multiple times. Sorry but the evidence contradicts this statement. Integration and elementary algebra? As usual, you expose your ignorance. Do you think we have to know that the sun is powered by fusion before understanding that the earth revolves around it?

thehomer:

Oooh but davidylan understands it all I'm sure. What you don't seem to realize is that you're even worse than those you're referring to as sheep because you have clearly demonstrated an inability to tell fact from fiction.

thehomer:

Just as I suspected. The electroshock therapy has probably fried the two brain cells you used to have. Good luck to you.

thehomer:

 

Being a lab attendant is not an easy task you know.

thehomer:

Especially [b]when he also believes that people were moulded from ribs [/b]and that a snake or a donkey could talk to him any minute and he wouldn't check himself into a mental institution.

thehomer:

Amazing what sorts of technicians work in labs nowadays.

davidylan:

incoherent again. Do you take integration before elementary algebra in school? Your sun analogy makes no sense here . . . let me make it clear - The origin of life provides us a template for understanding WHAT and WHERE we evolved from.
Now where the sun comes from or what it is powered by has zero bearing on what revolves around it. geddit it now? Obviously not expecting you to.

davidylan:

And you can tell fact from fiction which is why the only way you can provide salient "BASIC" facts for evolution is by asking we buy $40 worth of books from amazon? What a dishonest dud.

davidylan:

no problem. Even with my fried 2 brain cells . . . i have still debated science here unlike braying sheep like you.

davidylan:

tougher than you think dude. I'm proud of it. 

davidylan:

you believe you came from gas and water and that you descended from a single-celled organism like amoeba so what's the difference?

davidylan:

At least technicians have jobs.

thehomer:

Are you sure you actually work in a lab? Have you been snorting reagents again? Here let me make it loud and clear since you couldn't read what I wrote before.

[size=16pt]The theory of evolution is about the diversity of life.[/size]
Knowing the origin does not change the fact that the vast majority of extant organisms were not present on earth 1 billion years ago in their current form. They evolved and continue to do so.
At least, I'm glad that you can see the relationship between my analogy and yours. That is what I've been trying to show you.

thehomer:

If you're so poor, simply join a library or a book club and borrow the books. If you work in a university or such an institution, simply go to the library and borrow the books. Do I have to teach you how to be an academic? Sheesh.

thehomer:

Nope it looks like you're simply left with a single malfunctioning cell. Sorry.  

thehomer:

Glad to know that there is still some dignity in labour.

thehomer:

The difference is that one is true, and the other a myth. For your information, forget the Jesus talk. Stars died for you to be here.

thehomer:

Glad to hear it. I hope you enjoy your job.

davidylan:

You are quite slow . . . and for the upteenth time let me spell it out - evolution is about the diversity of life that STARTED OUT FROM EXACTLY WHERE?

davidylan:

1. FACT -  vast majority of extant organisms were not present on earth 1 billion years ago.

2. It is NOT FACT that they evolved - the fossil record disproves that already (unless of course you can propound 2000 theories why the fossil record is wrong)

davidylan:

3. The proof that all those organisms evolved must FIRST COME from showing EXACTLY HOW the very first organism appeared/evolved from - gases and soupy water?

davidylan:

we live in the internet age. Copying a link we could debate with a honest and open mind would have been better. But of course that is not what you are interested in.

davidylan:

my bosses arent complaining. works just fine.

davidylan:

you bet.

and your theory of evolution and the origin of life is true because a few books are published on amazon? Braying sheep alert.

davidylan:

Of course i do. Its going to net me six figures basic in the next 6 months. Perhaps i should recommend such lucrative "lab attendant" jobs to you fo[i]o[/i]ls here.

thehomer:

This from a guy whining for biologists to tell him. Just wait. Maybe one of them will visit you at home for a private lecture.

thehomer:

Whatever strokes your ego and helps you sleep at night. Some of us actually employ and decide the fates of lab attendants.

davidylan:

because you think the atheists here are logical, rational thinking folks interested in the other side of the debate. What you have here are shallow, narrow-minded bullies.

cultey:

Ok, atheists you read that.

Since you want facts and are seeking truth,

Watch those videos pls!

I fully understand your optimism,but it'll really take more than Youtube videos to convince people,especially if they don't reason with or

understand how or why they should trust someone who claimed to have been to hell or heaven and back.

Won't be surprised if some people start suggesting that those people were looking for cheap publicity,or someone might even come with

a "logical" theorem or Scientific publication disproving resurrection as a rare phenomenon.

Spirituality does not need believers to prove that it exists,and its a very good thing that all humans have their freedom of choice.

You'll believe what you wanna even after you've been provided with enough evidence cuz Faith is not "logical."

harakiri:

THE SAND MAN! ! ! Sounds like a great movie title!

chrisj2000:


For those who still dream of heaven you will be disappointed when you die. Tell me how that liar Jesus who didn't keep his bogus promises of "ask and you shall receive" can keep promise of heaven.