Thank you

SPAMBOX7:
Lol na Nigerian Embassy go help her collect her pikin? Wow.. seems like your aunt a Dumbo hence deserving of whatever she getting no sympathy for her here. Bye

Lummoni:
So the child belonged to the husband, then he passed and he "belonged" to his parents, they both passed and now he "belongs" to the sister, if she passes on who will he "belong" to then? He's busy being moved around ownerships like a piece of unwanted furniture when his mother is still alive

you right

100% true

Richy4:


You can't smuggle a child outside the country so easily like that nowadays buddy.. Many countries are strict on child trafficking nowadays...

Yes she might be the mother of the child, but if challenged at the port of entry, does she have an instant prove to show that she is indeed the mother?..No pictures on social media where herself,the kid and family members were bonding, nothing... for her to prove her innocence, she might stay behind bars for weeks.. pending when DNA comes out...
She should just follow the right process..

Aunty is Zulu, late husband I think he's Igbo I'm not 100% sure

waterpouroverfl:
Tell us the tribe

Yes she has

frankfrank:
Did she contact south Africa Embassy in Nigeria?
They can help her take up the issue

Yes he had a passport 11 years ago when he first entered Nigeria at 9 months old. That passport has obviously expired so she wouldn't be able to "smuggle" him out & if she tried & got caught. What would the outcome be = more stress and delays & what if the sister-in-law comes with relevant papers claiming my Aunt is the one in the wrong and the child is released into her care... While the authenticate her document/DNA, what happens to the child ESPECIALLY if he's sent back to sister-in-law

DearGorgeous:


I prefer this method.

We are in communication with them

okooloyun1:
This is the best solution.

I really don't understand how some people think that's even debatable, especially when the said in-laws are doing a very bad job at taking care or the child and have seized all communication between mother and son because the child always asks her to fetch him when they speak over the phone. They no longer send and pictures of him or anything

Mindlog:


The child belongs to both father and mother, now the said child's father is late, the woman has 100% right to the custody of their child and not the man's relatives.

The South African mother is getting custody of their son, irrespective of the late husband's tribe

We will look into the organization, thank you

ElGood:
The mother of the child should contact NAPTIP and lay a claim of forceful child adoption. Within 7 days she will get her child back and the people will be arrested and punish.

What is abandonment?

magicminister:
Regardless of the circumstances, how do you abandon your child for 11 years?

She has been trying to get him back

culf:


very true. I'm surprise she allow the child stay with them till now.

I understand that Imadiya, but they way things are going, the boy is getting older. They won't be able to hide him away from his mother forever. Infant he may grow to resent them for putting him through hardship while his mother was alive and very much willing to have him and take way better care of him

imadiyi:

Considering the xenophobic attitude of South Africans towards Nigerians in South Africa, they may not see her son as theirs. And this, perhaps, might be contributing to why the boy's family is unwilling to release him.

Also note that he may be the only child of his father, and as such, the family feels releasing him is a loss, as he may not visit them in his life time, due to his injurious mindset and the current hungry stance of the country (Nigeria).

Thank you!! People are soo quick to judge and some think the family has just been sitting around for the last 11 years just sending money to Nigeria while Aunty lives her best life. She started trying to get her child back a few months after her husband passed away. She had to extend her stay while she was there because they kept giving her the run around telling her they need to perform some rituals for the child. She's been to Nigeria numerous times. I read a story about an American attorney who's children were being withheld for 3 years and it was only the FBI and another organization that I forgot that eventually got them back. American /Nigerian embassies, Nigeria private investigator, Nigerian police all failed and she had in all spent over $50 000. So does that mean if someone does not have access to the FBI or $50 000 then they should not get their child back?

imadiyi:

Uhmmm, na so! Which court? Forget that thing. You think say na abroad you dey for yia. This na Nigeria where those kind ruling nor dey work, especially as e com involve a non-Nigerian.

You think a Nigerian can just go to South Africa to lay claim to a child after the demise of one his/her parents. Easier said than done! Na one chance she enter Soo; she knows. You think she has not complained to South Africa and Nigeria embassy before bringing it to social media. Uhmmm, I laff in Ibibio....

Imagine! But I'm sure the child know cause the neighbor talks to him and always tells him his mother loves him and will fetch him. Apparently he's tried running away from home twice, stating he was going back to his mother in South Africa cause he was tired of suffering

Chinny024:


How will I dash someone my child na... Haaa,after labour pains and hot fire....The only pain that has moved my brain to default setting even as a nurse...
Omo,I can't... Anywhere am going, gummed to my body ooo...How could they intimidate her to such an extent?...
They only wants that child to forget her and once detachment sets in,forget it...She will be a stranger to her own child..Tufiakwa

Easier said than done

asahnwaKC:
She should plan and kidnap the boy…. Periodtttt

Lol

culf:



lol...you're very funny! Shey as nurse you suppose know the techniques and secrets na (I have seen aunty nurse that cannot bear pain, hahaha).
As a guy, I can't even let my child stay 2 months away, even one self talk more of years. Maybe because she is not a Nigerian, I will fight that fight oooo.
You're right, that boy no go know her again, they need to start all over again.

#Aunty nurse I'm having stomach abi chest pain, what do I do?

Has been done over 5 years ago but nothing

GUNITGuy:
Please get a lawyer and involve the south Africa consular in Nigeria

I think they are

TheboyGhost:
Are they Igbo?

If yes...

Then it's a long long case to sort

By God's Grace I believe

LilMissFavvy:
She is going to get her child now that she is determined. Believe it or not, she was never serious on getting her child.

Eish! And if they were actually using the money to take better care of the child and they were letting mother and son communicate via phone call or video call as they used to before he started talking. And even allowing him to visit his mother in South Africa, maybe my Aunty might be somewhat okay with them living with her son. But as things are she wants him back as in yesterday

fluffybaby:


But the aunty is happy taking upkeep money from the woman shey? You people and your backward , disgusting lifestyle parading as culture. Vultures.

Exactly! Why can't she have children or she should. should have had kids with her brother then keep those for herself

Kentrasso:


How anyone can justify this senseless act is beyond me. Xenophobic what?? Irrant nonsense. Stupid tradition. A child belongs to his mom and dad. Relatives should go fin their own families and leave people alone

Lummoni:
Lol

how much are you going to pay for the laughter?

Lummoni:
She has been trying to get him back

let her come down and get her. He is her child, she has every access to her child. if they refused get a good loyal or Human right group involved and get your child or alternatively, stylishly moved him out without them knowing, though the official way is better.

Thank you

Elidrisy20:
Shebi she know their address? She should just report them to iPod/ESN,Ameotekun,or BH,they will release the boy in no time

Thank you so much to everyone for the helpful input. We are currently in contact with the organization

skedy1:


Good one!

Use this channel. This man has a way making things happen. He's going to place a call to whoever necessary, live on radio.
Please, try to visit the Brekete family.

Good luck

Lummoni:
Sorry about that, I'm new to the forum so I've been trying to navigate how things work for the past few days. Aunt has another child and she has a 9-5 so she can't take too much leave from work. If she is fired, no money to see her son or send to support him.

I understand. No matter what, DON'T GET FIRED!
Well, she has to make do with multiple 3-day visits as her job permits. 1)get a clean photograph to process a Nigerian then SA passport for him. 2)apply for visa 3)book travel tickets, driver/guide, security escort.

1)Always carry birth certificate & baby photos. 2)The boy has to be made compliant for smooth travel operation. Police, immigration etc dont play wt trafficking, they'll notice any discomfort.

Meanwhile, try and get the neighbor to make more contacts for her incase the neighbor becomes indisposed. People not related to the family. Talk to Noone again about taking the boy because a secret known by more than one person has become a news broadcast.

Yes some things in life are sometimes are grey but some are just black and white. Yes they were married in South Africa and Aunt had submitted all those documents to people attempting to help her over 5 years ago. No she has not lived in Nigeria for 1 year (why would she need to? The child was born in South Africa and has her listed as his birth mother on his South African birth certificate and his passport). The sister-in-law who is withholding the child is the one who has no ground to stand on because if my Aunt had been another kind of woman, she could say the child wasn't her late husband's child, so all this time they're re busy hogging a child who isn't even related to them. But even if the child has no relation to them, he will always have his mother's blood.
No we do not have pictures of him selling water, a neighbor who is in contact with my Aunt is the one who has seen him leaving the house or returning home carrying water plastic bags on his head & she (neighbor) has asked the boy about the Water and he's said he was selling and hadn't gone to school. The father-in-law didn't exactly say they (his wife and daughter) would kill her. But he did say "if she keeps pushing, she would never return to South Africa cause she might end up like her husband (what does that mean when someone is in a foreign land, visit a family they don't know for the second times to fetch a her child after her husband just passed away?) Yes she has proof of sending money and all the correspondence with different people/organizations over the years. She sent money just last week. She's nt going to wait 7 years, 11 years has been long enough

Father254:
Something is missing in the story.
Do you have marriage certificate either court or church marriage?

If they do,go to court but if not the case will be difficult to handle.


Have you been in your husband country for at least one year ? To build relationships with family and contact if you really came for marriage

How do you know the boy is selling pure water any pictures to confirm this ?

Do you still have evidence of sending money to them for child upkeep?

I don't believe the father in-law said that he will do her what he did to his son.

If he is wicked I don't believe he is stupid too to tell you his evil plan if he wanted the child badly than he grown up son you alleged he killed.

There are cases where the man's family takes care of the dead brothers son . If the boy is up to 18 he will decide in court to stay with his father's family or back to South Africa based on relationship.

There's more to this story.

Lummoni:
Yes he had a passport 11 years ago when he first entered Nigeria at 9 months old. That passport has obviously expired..

keep that passport and other baby articles as evidence. Check my previous reply. While processing his papers, get an SA court judgement, get a lawyer and adopt it in a nigerian court. For the right amount, a
midnight police raid and escort maybe all you need to get him from them. This is nigeria, ur biggest problem is money.

Estimate the cost of transporting a person btw SA-Naija and triple that amount. The extra two is for lawyer, police, etc and "logistics". Don't forget to have more money for "unforeseen occurrences".
IS UR AUNT THE CHURCH TYPE? HERE IN NIGERIA, Jehovah's witness and Assemblies of God i know could be of good help in this situation.
At worst, u can enrol him in a mission boarding school away from them. Then he can travel when other arangements are done.

Lummoni:
I think they are

If they are from my Tribe then you need to sort it amicably....


In my land, issues like this will not be sorted out by force and violence because we are all violent and stubborn out here....

The catch is this...

We are also a lot Emotional about things....

So if you wish to get the kid just try to workout everything amicably and Emotionally ..

Don't move by Aggression....

Move by wisdom and calmness....

Lummoni:
Aunty is Zulu, late husband I think he's Igbo I'm not 100% sure

Lummoni:
So the child belonged to the husband, then he passed and he "belonged" to his parents, they both passed and now he "belongs" to the sister, if she passes on who will he "belong" to then? He's busy being moved around ownerships like a piece of unwanted furniture when his mother is still alive

Send me a message to "Jonny Doen" on facebook.

I am an igbo man, born and bred, i can assure you this is completely out of order traditionally and otherwise.
Meanwhile, Abuja or lagos is far from any part of igbo land, almost like 2 different countries culturally and here we don't know about the so called berekete radio which is in Abuja. I've only read about them online.
Can you get the name of the village, community and state? That's only way to get you reasonable help.

Lummoni:
I'm starting to believe so too

Best believe it. The Nigerian approach to family and children is abnormal. If the men aren't kicking their wives out of their homes penniless, then they are claiming the children as their sole property. But if the child turns out bad, it's the wife. If he cheats, it means it's her fault.

Patriarchal ownership culture with full-blown escape of responsibilities when it suits them.

Very well said PeaceJoyLove

PeaceJoyLove:

You no well. You are not ok with this your useless and disgusting advice. I am sure you are the kind of people who kidnap children cos they are first sons. I like this case cos I like jailing people like you. Yes...you will say the meaning of witholding a child who is not yours cos of first born.

Mind you...you will refund all the money you have collected. Very useless thing. You need to be beaten.