PeaceJoyLove:


Another 419. What do you want to say via email you cannot say here? Barawo.

I am so so upset with what you typed.
Do you think withholding her son and everything she tried that didn’t work is ordinary?
If people don’t understand that what happens in the physical is controlled by the spiritual, they will fervently pray daily.
How come you are the only one that insulted me. You need to change. You do not know me but you decided to insult me on your phone.
Did I just open nairaland today?
Do not insult me again. I was only trying to help her.
I am a mother of 3 and I know how I will feel if my child is taken from me for that long.
You think any is the suggestions people are giving the OP will work if prayers aren’t made fervently?
In fact, after extensive prayers, the child will be released to her even without doing any other thing.
It is well you and others that just like to insult people, may God forgive you.

Lummoni:
Time is money & money is tight these days. The 4-5 times she's been to Nigeria she's spent a lot of resources that ended up not helping in any way whatsoever. So I made a promise to her that before she goes to Nigeria (and possibly come back empty handed AGAIN). It's better to subtlety put her story out there and we can maybe get leads and people that would be able to assist without alarming the family or angering them in any way. Then from there she can travel back to Nigeria with a renewed hope that this time she has a 90%chance of returning with him. She can't travel to Nigeria and break into their home and steal her son

Which state do the inlaws reside?

Don't involve the lawyer or police again, they will continue to collect her hard earned money.

If you answer the question,I'd guide her properly.

But please, let her tell you the truth and nothing but the truth on how her child was collected from her. I can assure you, she has a case but if the other party mention stuffs that are not known before hand, it will not be easy. Whatever that transpired, either sweet or ugly, did something bad or sent wrong people or anything that you believed hurt the family should be known. She shouldn't hide anything.

Tobilols:

I am so so upset with what you typed.
Do you think withholding her son and everything she tried that didn’t work is ordinary?
If people don’t understand that what happens in the physical is controlled by the spiritual, they will fervently pray daily.
How come you are the only one that insulted me. You need to change. You do not know me but you decided to insult me on your phone.
Did I just open nairaland today?
Do not insult me again. I was only trying to help her.
I am a mother of 3 and I know how I will feel if my child is taken from me for that long.
You think any is the suggestions people are giving the OP will work if prayers aren’t made fervently?
In fact, after extensive prayers, the child will be released to her even without doing any other thing.
It is well you and others that just like to insult people, may God forgive you.

I wanted to ignore you....but I see that it will be a wrong thing. You first wrote me yesterday and I ignored, and then you wrote me again....I will say something here and leave you with your Nigerian 419 style.

Dont ever turn everything to religion. Nigeria is corrupt...it is simple as ABC. Dont ever bring spirituality into what we already know the cause. So, is it spirituality that has made Nigeria a highly corrupt nation? Nope. Nigeria is corrupt because people are deliberately being corrupt. And majority are religious people...meaning religious people calling god/God are corrupt in Nigeria. Is it spirituality that made them corrupt? Lol.

Having said that...put exactly the damn spiritual advise here and dont ask the person call you privately. Before you know it, you will start asking the person to come for prayers. And after, you will ask for money to do useless spiritual stuff. We know how things roll. There is no element of spiritual things here. If she follows the law, she will get her child back. Dont ever bring spirituality into where it is not. Na way to 419 people.

So, i repeat...dont 419 the lady. Put here everything you want to tell her. Do not ask her to call you.

Get it straight into your head. We have seen girls with many children that 419 other girls with children like them. So, dont put that useless thing that you are a mother of 3 children. We have seen where a mom of 5 children has been arrested with one of her children na. Why? The mom was supporting the child in his yahoo business. Mothers even encourage their sons to do yahoo these days...so dont bring that here. Prophets are 419s here...infact, we know most Nigerian pastors are 419s. Infact...almost all of them. If not, how can Nigeria be so filled with evil? Going by the number of imams and pastors we have in Nigeria, if 25% of them preach the right message, Nigeria cant turn this way. All they want is money. Yahoo pastors and imams.

So, I maintain it...dont ask her to call you. Dont 419 here. Tell her whatever you want to say here. And dont tell her to start attending your church.

Goodluck!

Lummoni:
Could be, since she has been to Nigeria Embassy twice and been in contact with South African Embassy numerous times, even contacted a lawyer in Nigeria and went there with a man from a neighboring village but she had to leave without her child

Why?

PeaceJoyLove:


I wanted to ignore you....but I see that it will be a wrong thing. You first wrote me yesterday and I ignored, and then you wrote me again....I will say something here and leave you with your Nigerian 419 style.

Dont ever turn everything to religion. Nigeria is corrupt...it is simple as ABC. Dont ever bring spirituality into what we already know the cause. So, is it spirituality that has made Nigeria a highly corrupt nation? Nope. Nigeria is corrupt because people are deliberately being corrupt. And majority are religious people...meaning religious people calling god/God are corrupt in Nigeria. Is it spirituality that made them corrupt? Lol.

Having said that...put exactly the damn spiritual advise here and dont ask the person call you privately. Before you know it, you will start asking the person to come for prayers. And after, you will ask for money to do useless spiritual stuff. We know how things roll. There is no element of spiritual things here. If she follows the law, she will get her child back. Dont ever bring spirituality into where it is not. Na way to 419 people.

So, i repeat...dont 419 the lady. Put here everything you want to tell her. Do not ask her to call you.

Get it straight into your head. We have seen girls with many children that 419 other girls with children like them. So, dont put that useless thing that you are a mother of 3 children. We have seen where a mom of 5 children has been arrested with one of her children na. Why? The mom was supporting the child in his yahoo business. Mothers even encourage their sons to do yahoo these days...so dont bring that here. Prophets are 419s here...infact, we know most Nigerian pastors are 419s. Infact...almost all of them. If not, how can Nigeria be so filled with evil? Going by the number of imams and pastors we have in Nigeria, if 25% of them preach the right message, Nigeria cant turn this way. All they want is money. Yahoo pastors and imams.

So, I maintain it...dont ask her to call you. Dont 419 here. Tell her whatever you want to say here. And dont tell her to start attending your church.

Goodluck!

Brother, it is well with you. I don’t attend the supposed church you mention. I only join the prayers online.
Have you asked the OP what I told her?
Still calling me 419, it is well you. You can come to Ondo state where I work in the teaching hospital in Akure and I will you pay for your consultation, scaling and polishing if need be. You can still decide to call me 419.
I have never stolen or taken what does not belong to me, God knows.
I pray God will touch your heart and stop insulting people any how. I don’t even know if you are male or female.
I usually don’t talk much online since I joined nairaland, but I only trying to help OP and you start insulting me, it’s quite unfortunate.
Keep insulting me, I will only say God bless you.
I will not insult you back because I don’t ever want to miss my blessing..
God bless you brother.

PeaceJoyLove:


I wanted to ignore you....but I see that it will be a wrong thing. You first wrote me yesterday and I ignored, and then you wrote me again....I will say something here and leave you with your Nigerian 419 style.

Dont ever turn everything to religion. Nigeria is corrupt...it is simple as ABC. Dont ever bring spirituality into what we already know the cause. So, is it spirituality that has made Nigeria a highly corrupt nation? Nope. Nigeria is corrupt because people are deliberately being corrupt. And majority are religious people...meaning religious people calling god/God are corrupt in Nigeria. Is it spirituality that made them corrupt? Lol.

Having said that...put exactly the damn spiritual advise here and dont ask the person call you privately. Before you know it, you will start asking the person to come for prayers. And after, you will ask for money to do useless spiritual stuff. We know how things roll. There is no element of spiritual things here. If she follows the law, she will get her child back. Dont ever bring spirituality into where it is not. Na way to 419 people.

So, i repeat...dont 419 the lady. Put here everything you want to tell her. Do not ask her to call you.

Get it straight into your head. We have seen girls with many children that 419 other girls with children like them. So, dont put that useless thing that you are a mother of 3 children. We have seen where a mom of 5 children has been arrested with one of her children na. Why? The mom was supporting the child in his yahoo business. Mothers even encourage their sons to do yahoo these days...so dont bring that here. Prophets are 419s here...infact, we know most Nigerian pastors are 419s. Infact...almost all of them. If not, how can Nigeria be so filled with evil? Going by the number of imams and pastors we have in Nigeria, if 25% of them preach the right message, Nigeria cant turn this way. All they want is money. Yahoo pastors and imams.

So, I maintain it...dont ask her to call you. Dont 419 here. Tell her whatever you want to say here. And dont tell her to start attending your church.

Goodluck!

That is the email I sent to her.

Tobilols:

That is the email I sent to her.

What stopped you from posting your advice here in the first place? Why through email? Go park well joor. Na so dem dey start. Na that email be the last you will send to her? You will still send more na. So, do you think we don't know the code? Why do you need her private email or number before recommending a spiritual ritual?

Don't ever call your useless god to touch my heart cos he cannot. The god you people serve in Nigeria is powerless. I am not saying there is no God. But the god Nigerians serve is fake. The real God is so far from Nigeria. How can God be in Nigeria and the nation turns so terrible like this? Even nations with religion are doing well. They are more honest. Yet, Nigeria claims to know God. There are very few Christians in Norway and many Western European nations...but they are more honest. On a scale of 0 to 10, they are on 9 and Nigeria is on 0. I still don't get it. How can you all be spiritual, yet, your nation is disgusting? They will say spiritual. So, spiritual issues are why you all collect bribes...why you use the wrong measures for food in markets, why you cheat., etc. Go read your Bible...it is there that God turned His back on Israel (God left and some gods were there) and He told them that using wrong measures in the market is one of the reasons. Go and look at the scales you useless people use. They even deliberately hit the sides derika cans they use to measure. Very disgusting people. Na Christians will first ask drivers to pay bribes so their time won't be wasted when traveling on buses. Na Christians will first pay money to get exam papers before exams for their kids to pass.

Useless god(s) that cannot even make you do the right thing. On Sundays you do spiritual things...but Mons to Sats, you are mostly criminals. Make una dey deceive yourselves. If you are all truly spiritual people...I mean only 10% of you useless spiritual people are genuine, Nigeria will never be like this.

Nigeria's problem is not leadership. You all deceive yourselves by saying leaders are your enemies. Nope. The Nigerian citizens are the enemies of Nigeria. And the main people are people like you. Empty spiritual barrels. Jumping from one prayer point to another, nothing is showing.

Instead of you to repent and stopped doing criminal activities. 99.9% of Nigerian pastors are criminals who ar3 after tithes alone. If they preach salvation, we won't have yahoo boys and kidnappers like this. So, shut the crap up with the useless spiritual solution you sent to her privately. Well, it is your choice...post it here. If you had posted it here, I wouldn't hav3 said anything.

By the way, are you better than her? If we check, the burden you carry on your head is time 1000 of what the woman has on her shoulder, and you have been attending useless spiritual centers. Yet, you are blind to see your foolishness. Na so Naija be. Very disgusting people. Criminals on Mons to Sats, spiritual ppl on Suns. Lol.

I don't even know what to say. Everything is spiritual in Nigeria. Bla bla bla bla. She needs to use the law. Simple. Nigeria is corrupt, and she needs to play the game legally. The answer lies in finding the right method. And she must still bribe her way through cos the right person wants to be bribed first. Even if she goes through human rights activicts, they will still tell her when to give out cash, and to who. Why? Nigeria is so corrupt. And if you check, the persons collecting bribes are spiritual like you. They call themselves real Christians and Muslims.

If you know you are not doing these things, then, talk. But if you do these things and you still want to defend yourself....may the curse be laid on you. One that you won't be able to clean. Foolish people always trying to be right. What is the relationship btw spirituality and tackling a corrupt society?

See, I don't want to talk, but you like being used as a scapegoat. You better keep quiet and let it slide...else, I won't spare the rod on you. I will use you as an example of how to talk to spiritual vagabonds.

Broke people don't have cash

culf:


It will definitely change by God's grace. What if I want the payback in cash not laughter

Will do, thanks again

BigIyanga:


Good luck and keep us updated

I think the family is in Abuja. The boys mother is my elder so I can't "interrogate" her, Ive asked her questions and I'm going off of what she's told me. She doesn't have to be 100% honest with me, but if I can connect her with the right people and she is honest with them then that's cool with me. As long as she gets her child back

meetme01:


Which state do the inlaws reside?

Don't involve the lawyer or police again, they will continue to collect her hard earned money.

If you answer the question,I'd guide her properly.

But please, let her tell you the truth and nothing but the truth on how her child was collected from her. I can assure you, she has a case but if the other party mention stuffs that are not known before hand, it will not be easy. Whatever that transpired, either sweet or ugly, did something bad or sent wrong people or anything that you believed hurt the family should be known. She shouldn't hide anything.

I'm assuming because the in-laws wouldn't let her leave with the child. I wasn't there, just know that she went with people to get her child but returned to South Africa without him

BRATISLAVA:


Why?

Lummoni:
I think the family is in Abuja. The boys mother is my elder so I can't "interrogate" her, Ive asked her questions and I'm going off of what she's told me. She doesn't have to be 100% honest with me, but if I can connect her with the right people and she is honest with them then that's cool with me. As long as she gets her child back

I wish it was anywhere in the Southwestern state, I'll walk straight into the matter and see it resolved amicably pro bono. I don't know anyone in Abuja that works in their welfare Agency. However, I'd see if any of my colleagues can link me with any in Abuja.

Or do you know where there Welfare Agency is located in Abuja?

Well done. It will end in praise.

Lummoni:
Broke people don't have cash

you're not broke my friend, you may not have enough now but it will all change soon

Unfortunately I do not know anyone residing in Nigeria. But we are in communication with someone at the moment. Thank you

meetme01:


I wish it was anywhere in the Southwestern state, I'll walk straight into the matter and see it resolved amicably pro bono. I don't know anyone in Abuja that works in their welfare Agency. However, I'd see if any of my colleagues can link me with any in Abuja.

Or do you know where there Welfare Agency is located in Abuja?

Well done. It will end in praise.

I believe

culf:


you're not broke my friend, you may not have enough now but it will all change soon

Lummoni:
I believe

Awesome! That's the most important thing, having a positive spirit and being hopeful.

PeaceJoyLove:

What stopped you from posting your advice here in the first place? Why through email? Go park well joor. Na so dem dey start. Na that email be the last you will send to her? You will still send more na. So, do you think we don't know the code? Why do you need her private email or number before recommending a spiritual ritual?

Don't ever call your useless god to touch my heart cos he cannot. The god you people serve in Nigeria is powerless. I am not saying there is no God. But the god Nigerians serve is fake. The real God is so far from Nigeria. How can God be in Nigeria and the nation turns so terrible like this? Even nations with religion are doing well. They are more honest. Yet, Nigeria claims to know God. There are very few Christians in Norway and many Western European nations...but they are more honest. On a scale of 0 to 10, they are on 9 and Nigeria is on 0. I still don't get it. How can you all be spiritual, yet, your nation is disgusting? They will say spiritual. So, spiritual issues are why you all collect bribes...why you use the wrong measures for food in markets, why you cheat., etc. Go read your Bible...it is there that God turned His back on Israel (God left and some gods were there) and He told them that using wrong measures in the market is one of the reasons. Go and look at the scales you useless people use. They even deliberately hit the sides derika cans they use to measure. Very disgusting people. Na Christians will first ask drivers to pay bribes so their time won't be wasted when traveling on buses. Na Christians will first pay money to get exam papers before exams for their kids to pass.

Useless god(s) that cannot even make you do the right thing. On Sundays you do spiritual things...but Mons to Sats, you are mostly criminals. Make una dey deceive yourselves. If you are all truly spiritual people...I mean only 10% of you useless spiritual people are genuine, Nigeria will never be like this.

Nigeria's problem is not leadership. You all deceive yourselves by saying leaders are your enemies. Nope. The Nigerian citizens are the enemies of Nigeria. And the main people are people like you. Empty spiritual barrels. Jumping from one prayer point to another, nothing is showing.

Instead of you to repent and stopped doing criminal activities. 99.9% of Nigerian pastors are criminals who ar3 after tithes alone. If they preach salvation, we won't have yahoo boys and kidnappers like this. So, shut the crap up with the useless spiritual solution you sent to her privately. Well, it is your choice...post it here. If you had posted it here, I wouldn't hav3 said anything.

By the way, are you better than her? If we check, the burden you carry on your head is time 1000 of what the woman has on her shoulder, and you have been attending useless spiritual centers. Yet, you are blind to see your foolishness. Na so Naija be. Very disgusting people. Criminals on Mons to Sats, spiritual ppl on Suns. Lol.

I don't even know what to say. Everything is spiritual in Nigeria. Bla bla bla bla. She needs to use the law. Simple. Nigeria is corrupt, and she needs to play the game legally. The answer lies in finding the right method. And she must still bribe her way through cos the right person wants to be bribed first. Even if she goes through human rights activicts, they will still tell her when to give out cash, and to who. Why? Nigeria is so corrupt. And if you check, the persons collecting bribes are spiritual like you. They call themselves real Christians and Muslims.

If you know you are not doing these things, then, talk. But if you do these things and you still want to defend yourself....may the curse be laid on you. One that you won't be able to clean. Foolish people always trying to be right. What is the relationship btw spirituality and tackling a corrupt society?

See, I don't want to talk, but you like being used as a scapegoat. You better keep quiet and let it slide...else, I won't spare the rod on you. I will use you as an example of how to talk to spiritual vagabonds.

I give up�

Tobilols:

It is well with you.
I am a dental surgeon by profession. I only told her to connect to Nsppd prayers. You can ask her if you want. The reason I asked her to email me was because I needed to explain more about the prayers, time and being consistent.
You don’t just come online to abuse people. It is possible you have missed blessing because of what you just typed. Brother, it is well with you. Shalom

Carry your prayer solicitation go somewhere. Practical and legal solutions are needed. Go and use prayer to stop fuel scarcity or exam failure. This is really looking like a scam

Tobilols:

I give up�

Why are you giving up? Bring your practical prayer solutions to the table?

BigIyanga:

Why are you giving up? Bring your practical prayer solutions to the table?

I give up explaining myself to anybody here. Peace.

BigIyanga:

Carry your prayer solicitation go somewhere. Practical and legal solutions are needed. Go and use prayer to stop fuel scarcity or exam failure. This is really looking like a scam

Okay

Tobilols:

I am so so upset with what you typed.
Do you think withholding her son and everything she tried that didn’t work is ordinary?
If people don’t understand that what happens in the physical is controlled by the spiritual, they will fervently pray daily.
How come you are the only one that insulted me. You need to change. You do not know me but you decided to insult me on your phone.
Did I just open nairaland today?
Do not insult me again. I was only trying to help her.
I am a mother of 3 and I know how I will feel if my child is taken from me for that long.
You think any is the suggestions people are giving the OP will work if prayers aren’t made fervently?
In fact, after extensive prayers, the child will be released to her even without doing any other thing.
It is well you and others that just like to insult people, may God forgive you.

Hollier than thou attitude.. lol. You sound like a scammer. In a nameless forum.. everybody is quite accomplished. No need for personal solicitation.

BigIyanga:

Hollier than thou attitude.. lol. You sound like a scammer. In a nameless forum.. everybody is quite accomplished. No need for personal solicitation.

Okay, peace

meetme01:


Which state do the inlaws reside?

Don't involve the lawyer or police again, they will continue to collect her hard earned money.

If you answer the question,I'd guide her properly.

But please, let her tell you the truth and nothing but the truth on how her child was collected from her. I can assure you, she has a case but if the other party mention stuffs that are not known before hand, it will not be easy. Whatever that transpired, either sweet or ugly, did something bad or sent wrong people or anything that you believed hurt the family should be known. She shouldn't hide anything.

This is not a sound advice. She needs a legal representation as a foreigner trying to get her abducted son back his country of birth. She needs a lawyer.. a very good one… and they’re not cheap.

I think if you are talking about Asian London Escorts then this should be something that you consider.