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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by heroshark(m): 7:52pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
profemebee: Thank you! The rate at which people attacked me and my comment shocked me. I underestimated how many nigerians despised uncomfortable truth. Someone even accused me of jealousy and hatred. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jum33: 7:57pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
ehizario2012:Check your story well o as it just last year Feb this care visa was launched o not even up to 2 years yet . 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:58pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
hustla: It’s not common place anything, the stats released by govt shows it. Am talking from the data released and if you want to know there is another site that tells you company by company how many workers they sponsor within a year. That’s when you will know that many have the license but don’t sponsor. I’ve seen large companies with thousands of employees on their payroll that won’t sponsor more than 50 in a year. The salary requirement increases is definitely coming but again the health sector won’t be affected and we will blame people again for going that route 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 8:10pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Goke7: ok oo |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 8:12pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
I thought it was only me that saw this. Lol jum33: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 8:14pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Can you post the link of the stats. Let's see the stats for the past few years. Goke7: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ukliving: 8:15pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
jum33: Which last year? It was launched in August 2020 A Google search will tell you this |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dupyshoo: 8:22pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
I believe Care worker was added to the Health and Care visa route in February 2022 not since August 2020. Ukliving: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by heroshark(m): 8:23pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
justwise: "If you are not able to secure a job in your chosen field after graduation and after 2 additional years on PSW, the chances that you will be able to secure a job after 5years of working in care drops by 80%" ~heroshark, Nairaland 2023" I don't have any data to prove the above so I have to credit it to myself. The reason for my argument is that the easiest way for people to into their preferred career without relevant experience is through the graduate scheme. Most graduate route don't expect you to have experience so they put your through a rigorous assessment to make sure they are picking the right candidate and once you are in they will support you to grow. After 5years in carejob you simple will not qualify for any graduate program or scheme, and you will not have relevant experience to compete for non-graduate roles. The notion that companies don't sponsor is false, I applied to 3 jobs as a student and 2 of them offered sponsorship right from the start and even covered the visa fee. Some might say it's luck but whatever it is, it's proof that most big companies will sponsor you once they are convinced that you are a perfect fit for them. I work in consulting and most people in my industry move from graduate to senior level in 4-7years grossly roughly over 100k+ in salary and bonuses. Working in care for 5years means that you will lose valuable professional experience and career progression. In my industry there is a huge rivalry b/w companies, such that they brag about poaching talents from their competitors (this is off the book though). A rival firm will gladly hire you and ×2 your salary and sponsor you. After people working with competing firms, the next set of people that we fight to recruit is people with mid-senior level experience working in civil service and local council. This is because the public sector constituent our major client portfolio, so having staffs that understand how clients think and behave is a bonus. So for the students reading this, please do your due diligence, it will definitely pay off. 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 8:33pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
ehizario2012: Hell no!! the moment you get into care your brain is fried, no future, no ambition, you have no access to outside world, you will not even have time to do anything again..smh 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Raalsalghul: 8:47pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
justwise: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by babajeje123(m): 9:48pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Please can the dependant of a Tier 2 holder study full time without student visa and be able to work full time? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by heroshark(m): 9:54pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
babajeje123: Yes 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 9:58pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
hustla: Guy you suppose add GPT to your name |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by babajeje123(m): 10:01pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
heroshark:Thank you |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 10:02pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Goke7: I kuku don sell fan yogo before i might just sign up and get me sponsorship. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 10:09pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Goke7: Man, many many companies offer sponsorship. Difference is most don’t offer it to entry-level hires. That is the entire reason for PSW, to relieve graduates of the need for sponsorship and allow them to prove themselves to the point that companies will sponsor them. There is a clear, logical progression to the thing but many people don’t want to follow it for various reasons and that’s how they end up where they end up, and then people like you start blaming the government for everything. Your advise to anyone not interested in care work is to go to another country? Lmao. I can see that you’re fully set on this so all the best to you and all the others who join you in believing care is the only work available to immigrants in this country. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 10:15pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
justwise: You forget the part where you will be averaging 10,000 steps in a day. Two years into the job you go don dey use walking stick. Like i said before people are doing care job to meet up with fees and bills, mesef dey run am but you should upskill yourself and get a befitting job that aligns with your career. If you have any info on how to secure a good job kindly drop information/ pointers. We rise by lifitng others. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 10:31pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
lavida001: My bad!. You see i was thinking that carers can also drive, that many of them drive from client to client. It just occur to me now that people in other professions drive to work or do moon walking something that is not available to carers 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Resurgent2016: 10:36pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
heroshark: You can't use your story or even field to make a theory. Certain fields and industries are more open/exposed to offer sponsorship than others. For instance, many accounting firms (big4 or big10 as called here on the sponsorship list are open to offering sponsorship on contact. Discussion on why that is is a different subject. In the industry, an accountant is less likely going to easily find companies that offer on contact or they may be offering below average pay e.g a role that will fetch £50-69k, one will offer it for £25-30k with sponsorship and even those may not be so common. I also understand some data and IT focused firms/roles also rich sponsorship opportunities. Mind you, an accountant without big4 or closely matching experience in Nigeria is unlikely to land a big4 job in the Uk and so will likely focus on industry roles. Bottom line is not all industries and careers offer the same level of sponsorship opportunity. For instance a medical practioner/dentist/pharmacist and similar guys have a very high chance of securing sponsorship on contact. Someone with experience in hr or marketing will probably have much lower odds of getting sponsorship. For some others in the industry, even when they are on the sponsorship list, it is not a norm to offer sponsorship on contact or make any firm commitment towards sponsorship. So be thankful your prior experience and positioning has landed you in a rich fishing spot. Trust me many others work as hard and diligent but do not find same opportunity because of they do not have the prior experience in the visa-rich field to leverage on. I currently worked in industry but also have experience working with a big4 prior, so I speak from some level of experience. Except for some specialised engineering roles, my current employer will not offer sponsorship, neither will others in the industry. Best bet will be to join and hope you convince them to do so. For people with less than 24months on their visa, that is a challenge. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by directonpc(m): 10:39pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
What's the price range for 2 bedroom flat around Nottingham. I'm looking to rent around December/January/l. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ukliving: 10:49pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
justwise: ... |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 10:49pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
heroshark: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 10:50pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Ukliving: Sarcasm ... the soul of wit |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Chinlov: 11:02pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
justwise: Lol...this platform sweet pass sugar 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by claremont(m): 11:39pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
justwise: This is deep sarcasm at play here. On second thoughts, I don't know why people demonise care work. We all (set of 2009 UK entry) all did care and security jobs at some point prior to ultimately getting into chosen careers. Back in the day, no one gave visas for care work unlike now. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:53pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Resurgent2016: All that you have said here is what I cannot fault at all. I would have said all this earlier but our motivational speakers here will still find fault with it. see, just leave some folks here to continue to use themselves as a model when what applies to one cannot apply to many others. It's just a lack of sensitivity to other people's plight. I currently work in the aerospace, security & defence sector and it would be very bad to use myself as a model when I know many others don't have or may not be able to have the kind of experience and privileges I do enjoy. This country at times is like a lottery, if you are privileged, give thanks and do not think many others are not even hardworking like you. Enough said 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:57pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Goodenoch: This one I think I work in care |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 12:31am On Nov 29, 2023 |
claremont: You forget to add kitchen porter, early morning cleaning & mini cabbing........... 😂🤣 |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 12:33am On Nov 29, 2023 |
Resurgent2016: In addition, one of the big four I worked with in the past will not even offer sponsorship to folks on a dependent visa no matter how qualified the person is can’t say for the other big three which reduces the chances of those whose dependents are the ones that are highly skilled some of which they have to go the care route to keep their dependent spouse in those plum jobs. In recent months they will not even go forward with those that have less than a year left before their visa expires except if they are on a student visa. Yes for those on student visa they do sponsor. Like you said many firms tend to sponsor more on roles they feel are critical or technical like software engineers, cloud engineers even in the civil service. A lot of folks I have seen got offers in the civil service but got withdrawn even in the NHS because of visa length, should we say they are not hardworking enough or don’t know what they are doing. Circumstance differ from one person to another. This is my basis why I feel some folks can explore other countries instead of putting themselves at risk if they can’t go the care route. I repeat not everyone will get the opportunity of their desired work visa in this country. We all insisting that everyone should continue to try without having a plan B is very insensitive. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by claremont(m): 12:42am On Nov 29, 2023 |
Lexusgs430: If you know how many graduate jobs rejections I had that started with ''Great interview! However, on this occasion..''. We all had to do what's available to pay the bills. The most important thing is to have a career plan and stick to it. When I look back now, it's a humbling experience. 1 Like |
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