Razgas:
All you have listed here are Nigerian-specific issues. Kigali is a city in the middle of nowhere. Uyo has more resources than Kigali but Kigali looks more modern and urban with skyscrapers than uyo..and I can tell you now that people are occupying the skyscrapers in Kigali..they are not abandoned. Remove corruption and half of Nigeria's problems is solved within 12 years

mrvitalis:

What is burindi has far less revenue bless economically viable

Razgas:
first of all Nigeria is less than 200 million, secondly, there is 24 hour power supply in Ghana without oil which already starts telling you that our problem here is corruption and not lack of resources

Razgas:
why

Ttipsy:
Kigali in the middle of nowhere??

I think you should make more research about Kigali Rwanda

The city keep attracting international opportunities

Razgas:
I was involved in the construction of Qatar petroleum headquarters. Ned Nwankwo also does sand-filling in a large swamped land before building his estates. In the case of a modest skyscraper, you don't need to do much of that

mrvitalis:


Ghana was blessed with nature to have resources for hydro power that's why there' own is easy

We you aware ghana produce less than 5000mw ?

That aside the main reason we don't have power is 1 it's centralised ...now states have been given power to generate n distribute I expect changes in 10 years

mrvitalis:

How much d the Qatar building cost 2.7 billion dollars ,has Enugu gotten that amount since 1999 combined ?

Ttipsy:
Kigali in the middle of nowhere??

I think you should make more research about Kigali Rwanda

The city keep attracting international opportunities

Razgas:
lol...we have all that too plus gas with poor power supply because of corruption and the type of stupid policies people like you were making

mrvitalis:

I don't know your background in engineering but Nigeria has more installed capacity than Ghana most times produce more electricity than Ghana

And no we are not really blessed with hydro power resources we have maxed them out

Gas is not free can Nigerians play enough to warrant investors to come in ?

mrvitalis:

Enugu Onitsha express is abandoned because of lack of revenue

Bros sky scrappers doesn't have to be expensive ? Lmfao Bros can you build a 30 store building with less than 50 million dollars ? Even with our cheap labour

Ok let's say we build 30 story apartment buildings with 50 million dollars

Say each floor contain 10 flats of 3 bedroom flats that's 300 flats abi ?

You want this house to cost 1 million per year abi ? ....that's 300 million naira .... yearly

Let's assume we give the building light for free, all the staffs work for tree, the maintainace is done for free

300 million that's $400k pet year revenue

At this rate it would take 125 years to break even assuming no inflation

Do you still think it's a good thing to do ?

Razgas:
an engineer in Qatar is paid 100 thousand dollars a year. An engineer in Nigeria is paid about 20 thousand dollars

Razgas:
All you have listed here are Nigerian-specific issues. Kigali is a city in the middle of nowhere. Uyo has more resources than Kigali but Kigali looks more modern and urban with skyscrapers than uyo..and I can tell you now that people are occupying the skyscrapers in Kigali..they are not abandoned. Remove corruption and half of Nigeria's problems is solved within 12 years

Jamestown123:
$50,000000 for weytin? How much Mrs alakija building cost?

mrvitalis:

Bros a family of 3 that makes 200k a month is richer than a family of 10 that makes 1 million monthly

My issue is majority of Nigerians think like you

mrvitalis:

Average engineer earns less than $5000 per year in Nigeria ....that's my point Nigeria is not yet economically viable for skyscrapers yet

What we need now is provide access to create for our local business to become multinational corporations ...then they would need skyscrapers offices and would be able to afford n build one

Thanksful:


Culture play important roll in economy and architecture.

Razgas:
actually majority thinks like you. They want to trade. They want yoot empowerment. They love tribal discussions. They believe we are not capable of being like white people so no need to try...zero ideas. That's you bro. Not me. Make me governor of enugu state and I will focus on enugu city until it looks like a real city. Funny you were praising Enyimba city a few weeks ago.

Razgas:
culture is fluid. People do culture according to what they know. Show them something else and they leave the old culture for good.
Also what stats tells you shopping centers in filling stations don't do well? Skyscrapers in Eko Atlantic are all mixed used not just offices...in the same Nigeria. What happened to the culture?

Razgas:
ghana built volta dam when Nigerians were stealing their own resources in 1960s

Razgas:
and in poverty too...ergo Nigeria's situation

Greyworld:

Why please Why is it attracting international opportunities


Truth is every where is nowhere till people make it somewhere.

Banana island was nowhere till elites moved there.
Nigeria was just southern n northern protectorate til the British made it Nigeria.


If cities don't grow it remains no where. Nigeria cities are crawling with development with special reference to the East
Imagine a city as popular and old like Aba

Razgas:
lol...people like you are the reason Nigeria has made zero progress in 60 years. Nay sayers with zero practical alternative. I remember how you were insulting igbos here in 2015 because of Buhari. Nobody could call you to order. Now you run around insulting yorubas because of the same buhari. Zero direction.
Now let me explain the poverty circle to you. It starts with you telling yourself you are too poor to save. And because you don't have savings, you can't invest and because you can't invest, you make no extra income and the circle completes with you remaining poor.
In this case, we won't be able to build skyscrapers that could be used as offices and residences of modern, urban igbo youths who have lived abroad and have who have become used to a certain European lifestyle and who can bring in capital and expertise in our state because we are too busy paying an overbloated civil service with our little income. In turn this igbo youths take their investment to cities like Abuja and lagos and go there to build the same skyscrapers you don't want in the east and you go to their instagram page to insult them for abandoning igboland and igboland remains poor and unable to build these skyscrapers. Meanwhile many skyscrapers in Eko Atlantic are owned by Igbos

mrvitalis:

Average engineer earns less than $5000 per year in Nigeria ....that's my point Nigeria is not yet economically viable for skyscrapers yet

What we need now is provide access to create for our local business to become multinational corporations ...then they would need skyscrapers offices and would be able to afford n build one

Thanksful:


Yes! But culture is a bigger player. People die to keep their culture or to seem to keep their culture.

Razgas:
Now to the purpose of this thread. Let's say every Enugu governor builds two skyscrapers at the New Enugu Centenary City every 8 years, Enugu will have 10 skyscrapers in 40 years.

The photo here shows The Cocoa house built by Awolowo in 1960s in Ibadan. Do you see how it elevates Ibadan? Now imagine that there are 9 more Cocoa houses built over the years by successive Ibadan governments. Do you now see how Ibadan would have looked?

Razgas:
what we need is to be more like Rwanda...that's all

Razgas:
if Aba was left to the whites with the same resources, it would look like Durban of South Africa today. Our leaders don't have foresight beyond dumb politics and 'empowerment '

Greyworld:


Going by this mind set Nigeria will never get any new thing done. Perhaps we should just revert to living in mud houses till multinational corporations come.

If people considered this thing the way yu are sayin it means by now we won't even have a 3storey building o.

mrvitalis:

As governor of Enugu ...what would you do differently

Hope u know the revenue, wage bill of Enugu

Boom go let's see what you can do ...write those ideas

What you would do ,how much it would cost ,where the money would come from n durations let's go

Razgas:
I will develop Centenary City enugu to look like a typical abroad city. I will build 2 fairly tall buildings...say 20 storeys under PPP. They will be mixed used as hotel and shopping plus offices. I would organise the churches to build at least one gothic-style cathedral for interfaith worship...any economic building gets free land. Roads will be built by the estate developers. We as government will build power and water plant under ppp just the Centenary City. Remember it is a marathon..I may not finish within 8 years but we would go so far that after 8 years, The city will be developing on its own even if the next governor discontinued our project.
See if I am Enugu governor, I won't steal one kobo. Just my allowances.