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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by seunmsg(m): 7:37pm On Jul 04, 2023
DesChyko:


Is it insignificant really?

According to INEC, the number of voters per PU is 500. 500 by 18000 gives a potential 9,000,000
voter's. The smallest margin of winning between the top 3 in the flawed elections was 800,000, the largest margin of win was less than 2,000,000 and over four times less than the potential voters unaccounted for on iRev. Then, there is the issue of whose stronghold was blurred out?

You'd agree with me that your passmark did not come from a place of common sense.

ExudeLoveToAll:



18K is insignificant when it can have a change in the results? 18k insignificant, nothing one won't read on this forum.

HNICEARTH:


18k PUs results insignificant shocked
That's more than 10% of the total PUs

What's the difference in number of votes btw the 1st, 2nd and 3rd in that election?

Ode go learn maths first before you open mouth

The problem with some of you guys is that you just read without understanding. That 18k results out of 176k uploaded to IREV were blurry doesn’t in anyway mean the actual results of the 18k polling units as recorded on form EC8A were blurry.

For crying out loud results were not collated from IREV. Read the testimony of the INEC witness that I posted on the first page of this thread and stop making ignorant comments.

18k represents about 10% of the total results uploaded to IREV. These are results snapped by various INEC adhoc officials who were barely trained on how to handle BVAS. Even people who use their phones daily still end up snapping blurry pictures. So, if 176k pictures were taken and 90% came out good, is that not a passmark?

Finally, results from the 18k polling units with blurry pictures on IREV were collated. Those results were not excluded like you guys are ignorantly trying to portray. The original form EC8A are not blurry and they were manually collated across the different collation centers.

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 7:40pm On Jul 04, 2023
garfield1:


Read osun judgment again by justice agim.it is oyetola vs adeleke supra 2023 per jsc agim.
Why don't you tell me what it says?

What I see there is that BVAS is the primary source of election data.

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 7:46pm On Jul 04, 2023
garfield1:


Yes to an extent.it is useful in the absence of manual results
Both sentences contradict each other. If you say yes, then the second sentence is inconsequential.

If I take yes, then the new electoral act was violated. Based on the screenshot below.

If I go with the second sentence, then it means that a blurred IREV results nullifies the hardcopy.

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by garfield1: 7:52pm On Jul 04, 2023
Spy360:
Both sentences contradict each other. If you say yes, then the second sentence is inconsequential.

If I take yes, then the new electoral act was violated. Based on the screenshot below.

If I go with the second sentence, then it means that a blurred IREV results nullifies the hardcopy.

You are quoting from a mere guideline which is inferior.the electoral act has given inec the power to transmit anyhow.the supreme court has made server evidence secondary.thats that.apply commonsense and stop this nonsense
Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by garfield1: 7:53pm On Jul 04, 2023
Spy360:

Why don't you tell me what it says?

What I see there is that BVAS is the primary source of election data.

Read the full sttaement of justice agim about third hand evidence

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by ImperialYoruba: 7:59pm On Jul 04, 2023
Penguin2:
At the resumed hearing of the Petition of the Labour Party and Peter Obi against INEC, Tinubu, Shettima and APC, INEC was finally able to open their defence as their witness did not have “domestic issues” today.

INEC witness today was the same Deputy Director of ICT at INEC, Lawrence Bayode, who testified for INEC in PDP’s case.

After adopting his witness statement, it was time for cross examinations by parties.

When it the turn of the Labour Party, cross examination was handled by PIN Ikwueto SAN.

First, under cross examination, PIN Ikwueto asked the witness why INEC went ahead to deploy the IREV for the elections if it had “vulnerabilities” (recall the many claims of threats of hackers and all by INEC and government agencies).

To this the witness replied that the IREV “had no vulnerability.”

Furthermore into the cross examination, Mr Ikwueto handed an INEC certified IREV result sheet and asked, “what is the score of APC in this result sheet?”

INEC Witness: ”I don’t know, the results are blurry.”

And that was how INEC admitted in court that its document is blurry.

Now, the question is where did it get the numbers to announce the winner it announced?

Remember: ”The aim is not to trust the judiciary, the aim is to overwhelm them with evidence”.


Irev result showed to him are blurry. Result used to declare winner is EC8 and BVAS, not irev.

Infact, you can take irev offline and integrity of result of the election is still intact.

The only way you can change the integrity is to manipulate EC8 and BVAS.

Petition should have focused on the integrity of the BVAS and EC8, not on irev.

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by youngrichnigga: 8:03pm On Jul 04, 2023
The results are blurry or the results are altered dey play undecided undecided undecided undecided
Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by HNICEARTH: 9:34pm On Jul 04, 2023
seunmsg:


IREV results are downloaded from IREV. IREV results were not used for collation so it’s of no effect even if it is blurry. Below is the relevant testimony of the witness that the OP will not post here.



And this



Final



You are following olanipekun that said once one's passport expires, the person's citizenship expires grin

Dey play

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by HNICEARTH: 9:43pm On Jul 04, 2023
seunmsg:


INEC officials. And yes, there are lots of reasons for blurry images. If 18k snapped results are blurry out of 176k, then that’s an insignificant number. It’s a passmark for INEC and IREV.

18k PUs results insignificant shocked
That's more than 10% of the total PUs

What's the difference in number of votes btw the 1st, 2nd and 3rd in that election?

Ode go learn maths first before you open mouth

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 2:27am On Jul 05, 2023
garfield1:


Read the full sttaement of justice agim about third hand evidence
If you don't have a point just keep silent than dragging me up and down meaninglessly

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 2:31am On Jul 05, 2023
ImperialYoruba:


Irev result showed to him are blurry. Result used to declare winner is EC8 and BVAS, not irev.

Infact, you can take irev offline and integrity of result of the election is still intact.

The only way you can change the integrity is to manipulate EC8 and BVAS.

Petition should have focused on the integrity of the BVAS and EC8, not on irev.
The purpose of IREV is the ensure the transparency of the process according to the INEC guideline. See the pix below.

If IREV is not available then the process is not transparent and therefore cannot stand.

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 2:39am On Jul 05, 2023
garfield1:


You are quoting from a mere guideline which is inferior.the electoral act has given inec the power to transmit anyhow.the supreme court has made server evidence secondary.thats that.apply commonsense and stop this nonsense
You have admitted that the INEC guidelines were not followed.

Does the electoral act empower INEC to develop a collation system? Yes.

INEC's failure to follow its own guidelines is a violation of the electoral act itself.

A school says you must obey your teacher.
Teacher gives instructions. A student then says I will disobey my teacher, it does not mean I disobey the school. The teacher is inferior to the school. Makes no sense.

Electoral act says INEC has the power to create her own guidelines which must be obeyed. The guidelines were not obeyed as you agree, but you turn back to say it is inferior to the electoral act. I can't even make sense out of it.

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by tinsel: 2:49am On Jul 05, 2023
Op, I want to ask you questions. Please did the blurry results uploaded affect the final results announced when there is a physical copy?
Have you ever seen the IREV portal, did you see the tabulations of results there apart from the uploaded EC8 forms?
Do you understand what is IREV portal where those youth corners snapped and uploaded the signed EC8 forms?

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by tinsel: 2:53am On Jul 05, 2023
HNICEARTH:


18k PUs results insignificant shocked
That's more than 10% of the total PUs

What's the difference in number of votes btw the 1st, 2nd and 3rd in that election?

Ode go learn maths first before you open mouth
There are physical copies where INEC did their calculations and tabulations at the collection center. Guy understand what is IReV. Whether uploaded or not it has no impact on the results announced by INEC.
Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by fadsam: 2:55am On Jul 05, 2023
seunmsg:


IREV results are downloaded from IREV. IREV results were not used for collation so it’s of no effect even if it is blurry. Below is the relevant testimony of the witness that the OP will not post here.



And this



Final


Dont u av sense? Or u arent aware apc & inec are on thesame side vs pdp & lp, wat are u expecting from apc counsels

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by BrokenTV: 3:06am On Jul 05, 2023
garfield1:


You are quoting from a mere guideline which is inferior.the electoral act has given inec the power to transmit anyhow.the supreme court has made server evidence secondary.thats that.apply commonsense and stop this nonsense
Make una just dey the deceive una self, useless country.

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by GeneralPula: 4:20am On Jul 05, 2023
Spy360:

The purpose of IREV is the ensure the transparency of the process according to the INEC guideline. See the pix below.

If IREV is not available then the process is not transparent and therefore cannot stand.
They’ve educated you but you believe your opinion..

The best thing you can do is to be patient for court judgement and stop asking same thing 200x..

Spending time chasing shadows! IREV that’s not even recognized by Nigeria law..

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Rolings: 4:46am On Jul 05, 2023
ganisucks:


Obi and co are in US getting briefings on when he becomes president. Una go see chimchom.


We are still waiting for Biden to come and chase BAT away.........abi that wannabe feminist is not done sucking his gbola?
Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by ImperialYoruba: 5:24am On Jul 05, 2023
Spy360:

The purpose of IREV is the ensure the transparency of the process according to the INEC guideline. See the pix below.

If IREV is not available then the process is not transparent and therefore cannot stand.

Irev is a public service. So INEC gave commitment, promising transparency with the result. The result is a utility for public consumption. In such arrangements the commitment is treated as a service level . If Irev is not available they failed SLA (service level agreement). This does not mean the collated data at source lost validity.

By the way, what is the data? It is an ink stamped ballot paper. That is the data itself.

Is this what they put in Irev? NO.

Ink-stamped ballot papers, classified by party logo are counted at each polling unit and recorded on a form. The form is then endorsed by each party agent present. Over 176,000 polling units forwarded their endorsed forms to INEC. After adding all the reports on the forms to obtain result for each party and candidate the outcome is shared.

As part of its process improvement, INEC wants the collation of these reports and outcomes to be shared with public (Irev) in real time. This part of their process failed. Does this mean the ink-stamped ballots are no longer valid?

Validity & integrity of the data should not be faulted because INEC missed SLA.
Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by KanwuliaExtra: 5:26am On Jul 05, 2023
Yet the real results are only in the armpits of Mahmood Yakubu!
What a criminal organization.
Breeze don blow!

WHICH RESULT DID INEC ANNOUNCE THEN? cheesy
Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Nakedtruths: 5:27am On Jul 05, 2023
seunmsg:


They are blurry only on IREV. The real form EC8A results for the 18k units are not blurry. They are very clear and they were used in collating the results. Results were not collated on IREV.
Are you aware that INEC were asked to produce the form ec8 of those 18000 pu and they could not?

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by ImperialYoruba: 5:31am On Jul 05, 2023
Nakedtruths:

Are you aware that INEC were asked to produce the form ec8 of those 18000 pu and they could not?

False information.

INEC is willing to release data but the service must be paid for. LP has not paid.
Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Nakedtruths: 5:34am On Jul 05, 2023
chidiokay:




Oga !! what that clause is addressing is a situation where there is discrepancies between the polling unit and at the ward centre collation unit,
the presiding officier from the polling unit and collation officier will review the discrepancies with electronic result, i.e check what was snapped by the Bvas and rectify AT WARD LEVEL. as primary source what is on the BVAS is what will definitely be seen on IREV

We have four coalition stage, polling units 2 ward 2 local govt 2 state then 2 National




Section 64 subservient to section 47 (2) are the only Guide of the collation of results
Imagine this for a second, the witness is an ICT expert, what is his business with form ec8, which is manual. What is his job in INEC for 24 years, when the result from his expertise is blurry.

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Nakedtruths: 5:35am On Jul 05, 2023
ImperialYoruba:


False information.

INEC is willing to release data but the service must be paid for. LP has not paid.
May be you should ask for clarification from your end. Inec said they don't have, so couldn't provide it as at when it was needed

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by seunmsg(m): 5:43am On Jul 05, 2023
Nakedtruths:

Are you aware that INEC were asked to produce the form ec8 of those 18000 pu and they could not?

I’m not aware. Can you post a credible link to support your claim?

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Nakedtruths: 5:43am On Jul 05, 2023
Spy360:

You have admitted that the INEC guidelines were not followed.

Does the electoral act empower INEC to develop a collation system? Yes.

INEC's failure to follow its own guidelines is a violation of the electoral act itself.

A school says you must obey your teacher.
Teacher gives instructions. A student then says I will disobey my teacher, it does not mean I disobey the school. The teacher is inferior to the school. Makes no sense.

Electoral act says INEC has the power to create her own guidelines which must be obeyed. The guidelines were not obeyed as you agree, but you turn back to say it is inferior to the electoral act. I can't even make sense out of it.
Don't mind him, he knows what he is doing,

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by seunmsg(m): 5:49am On Jul 05, 2023
Nakedtruths:

May be you should ask for clarification from your end. Inec said they don't have, so couldn't provide it as at when it was needed

Can you stop lying! Provide credible proof to substantiate your claim. Show us where INEC said they don’t have the original copies of the form EC8A of any polling unit whatsoever.

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Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Nakedtruths: 5:54am On Jul 05, 2023

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