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Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by Wujio: 8:25am On Oct 07, 2023
NOETHNICITY:
Exactly what Kperogi explained, that people are allowed in the USA to alter document as they deem fit because it has no value. The only document that you are not allowed to alter is your transcript. Make una try dey read.


You dont listen either. Since the signature deemed forged, what is submitted to INEC is against the oath that all document submitted are valid and this makes it criminal. Shut up to understand context una no go gre
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by garfield1: 8:25am On Oct 07, 2023
Racoon:
A low-hanging fruit is Tinubu's obviously fraudulent secondary school attendance claim.He can write to Cambridge University to verify the GCE A-level result that Tinubu presented to Southwest College. If it turns out that it’s fake or belongs to someone else, he can cause Daley College to rescind his associate degree.

If his associate degree is rescinded, his bachelor's degree from CSU will automatically follow. With no qualifications to present to INEC to prove that he has at least the equivalent of a secondary school certificate, he'd be legally ineligible to run again.

The constitution states that equivalent of ssce is needed for qualification or a combo of fslc alongside 10 years work experience in public or private sector or being able to read and write
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by plaindealer: 8:27am On Oct 07, 2023
DiscoverID:
Why are ibos crying more than the bereaved, typical Fulani slaves crying and licking atiku's asrss. They have abandoned obidafft, what a time to be alive.

The rest of the country always access and treat every issue with practical sense, good rational and intelligent understanding, but they always deploy their zogbu zogbu emotional, irrational, senseless and illogically approach, they don't think and they hardly make sense, even the so called educated ones like Oby Ezeks act the same.

It's sad, pathetic and painful to watch a whole tribe act like stone age people.

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Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by InvertedHammer: 8:28am On Oct 07, 2023
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Beyond all these grammatical acrobatics, my personal opinion goes this:

Tinubu probably entered school in US using false documents. Why? How? It was en vogue then to do such. As a matter of fact, before the use of computers to collect data by Immigration Services, siblings were traveling with documents of their brothers/sisters. The only check then was physical facial recognition using 2x2 passport. No fingerprinting. No electronic central database. That was the case of late Sen. Buruji Kashamu, who until his death claimed that his crimes were committed by his dead brother. But everyone and his/her grandmother knew the game back then.

The fact is that it is very difficult to prove today. Will I knock Tinubu for that? It says a lot about his integrity. But then who has integrity in Nigeria? Nigerians are all over the world claiming asylum for greener pasture. Who seeks equity must come with clean hands. We are opportunists. We are a nation filled with citizens that seek shortcuts in anything in life. Therefore, it is hypocritical to act holier-than-thou in this mess of a nation called Nigeria.

When Nigerians are ready to face the truth, they will. Until then, the end justifies the means. Let the best rigger and manipulator win.

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Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by Miles300: 8:29am On Oct 07, 2023
So what do we now say of the multiple date of birth, name discrepancies and gender ?
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by Thomasankara(m): 8:30am On Oct 07, 2023
[/color]one step at a time let's solve Chicago mystery,only if you believe he's cleared on that then this can suffice[color=#770077]
Blitzerz:

You attended government college Lagos in 1970?
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by Funkyswagzz(m): 8:31am On Oct 07, 2023
Cyberterror:


Dey play.

Yoruba support for President Tinubu is getting stronger each passing day. They see through the smoke that it is Igbo who are attacking the president online out of their general hatred for all Yoruba because Yoruba refused to support their IPOB secessionist agenda.

Lol funny guy
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by Babinski: 8:32am On Oct 07, 2023
Ofunaofu:


That's basically Farooq's opinion

While The below is what the law says

Section 468 of the Criminal Code Act in Nigeria. Uttering false documents and counterfeit seals

Any person who knowingly and fraudulently utters a false document or writing, or a counterfeit seal, is guilty of an offence of the same kind and is liable to the same punishment as if he had forged the thing in question.

It is immaterial whether the false document or writing, or counterfeit seal, was made in Nigeria or elsewhere.

Look at all the definition of False document according to the law in Section 464 of the Nigerian Criminal Code Act and tell me which applies to Tinubu's Diploma or Certificate.

If a certificate is Ceremonial and can be printed by you as long as you without it being deemed an illegality as long as you attended and graduated from the University, how does it become a false document? It only becomes a false document if you never graduated or attended the University because then it wiould be trying to convey a lie.

If there is really a case of forgery or uttering false document that could be legally pursued against Tinubu, do you think Atiku and his Lawyers in their desperation will not pursue it?
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by KillahPriest: 8:41am On Oct 07, 2023
Racoon:
Tinubu Attended CSU But Forged Certificate Submitted to INEC, Kperogi Claims (Farooq Kperogi, Professor of Journalism and Newspaper Columnist).

I find it hard taking Kperogi serious especially since last year
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by KillahPriest: 8:45am On Oct 07, 2023
Cyberterror:


Dey play.

Yoruba support for President Tinubu is getting stronger each passing day. They see through the smoke that it is Igbo who are attacking the president online out of their general hatred for all Yoruba because Yoruba refused to support their IPOB secessionist agenda.
stop telling barefaced lies, stop being an evil tribal bigot and stop dragging Igbos into your madness. It's okay to have a political opinion and stand by it but don't bring the terrible evil of tribal bigotry into the equation because the inevitable outcome will be Rwandan style carnage so stop your bloody lies sir
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by Abagworo(m): 8:54am On Oct 07, 2023
No known logic can explain the inconsistency in all of Tinubu's documents except that it is fraudulent. Enough of these attempts to justify fraud
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by walegon: 8:54am On Oct 07, 2023
DiscoverID:
Ibo people, rest.
Is this guy igbo. You just luv talking about igbos
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by onuman: 8:56am On Oct 07, 2023
And Farook Kperogi has no business intervening because he has always been an apostle for APC which has reduced Nigeria to become the official poverty capital of the world and one of the most terrorised countries on earth.
Kperogi is an Islamic extremist parading in the garb of Progressives. Bola Tinubu's half way in between Extremists and non Extremist Atiku Abubakar.
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by DaTruths: 8:57am On Oct 07, 2023
DiscoverID:
Why are ibos crying more than the bereaved, typical Fulani slaves crying and licking atiku's asrss. They have abandoned obidafft, what a time to be alive.

So Farouk is an igbo man? Nawa oh.
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by almarthins(m): 8:58am On Oct 07, 2023
Racoon:
Bola Adekunle Ahmed Tinubu committed forgery and perjury. He must be prosecuted, convicted and jailed this time around. The ones of 1974 and 1999 he escaped because of the gross rotteness of the Nigerian judiciary system.

Who wan prosecute am?

Don't you know that tinubu is now clandestine grand patron of Nigerian judiciary. Any tinubu case that enters court will eventually be dismiss.

That money wey pay them earlier in his administration na their conscience him buy o. So no pot can cook him
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by Deepthoughts: 9:00am On Oct 07, 2023
Racoon:

https://www.farooqkperogi.com/2023/10/ignorance-of-america-that-atikus.html
All this lengthy epistle just cover up Tinubu!,ok if certificate doesn't matter in the US,why didn't Tinubu submitted his transcript then?, Tinubu undoubtedly attended CSU n was issued with a certificate which he claimed lost n applied for a replacement but didn't picked it up as CSU registrar confirmed, instead he choose to source for another certificate from "private vendors" which the CSU refuse to authenticate, Tinubu was supposed to n knew that was wrong in Nigeria but perhaps he reasoned would never be found out, apart from the CSU certificate itself, everything Tinubu did before getting into CSU was clearly fraudulent like the GCE result he used in getting into Southwest college, this professor like most other Tinubu supporters avoided this aspect because it clearly show Tinubu as fraudulent, Tinubu's NYSC certificate even have different name combinations from the CSU certificate in question, sentiments apart Tinubu is guilty of forgeries, even himself and his supporters knows it.
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by Exceed15: 9:00am On Oct 07, 2023
DiscoverID:
Why are ibos crying more than the bereaved, typical Fulani slaves crying and licking atiku's asrss. They have abandoned obidafft, what a time to be alive.

Gbenu soun direct your anger to Atiku.
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by onuman: 9:00am On Oct 07, 2023
It borders on delusion of grandeur for a man to always believe that he knows it all because he lives in America.
Farook Kperogi, you are fit only for lecturer post in a Madrasa.
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by DaTruths: 9:03am On Oct 07, 2023
plaindealer:


Unfortunately for you, no false document was submitted.

You are part of the ignorant crowd the writer is talking about.


CSU said they didn't issue the certificate that Tinubu submitted to inec, thus making it a false document.

Its a simplified English, i don't know why its too hard to decipher.
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by Funkyswagzz(m): 9:11am On Oct 07, 2023
rotadeco27:

It is obvious you do not have understanding of what is happening. It is a case of corruption fighting back hard. The people eating fat on subsidy are frustrating his efforts and want subsidy to come back , the aboki selling dollars are not given up on relinquishing their daily cash out by just exchange rate alone, u think Atiku or Obi can do any better ? Dey play , who so ever wants to liberate this country must fight this battle to the finish and they say where 2 elephants fight, the grasses suffer. It either we keep printing or borrowing money for the few to be getting richer or we endure this hardship for the sake of liberation.

If you truely believe obi or atiku cant do better so why did u people boast about tinubu, that he is the only one who can fight the oligarchy. The way u people shot urself on the foot amaze me. Well we are in this mess together so let everyone deal with it.

Mind you can't predict what obi or atiku can do when infact they have not assumed tinubu's position. So leave that talk for another day
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by Nuheights(m): 9:12am On Oct 07, 2023
Farooq is very objective in this analysis. Tinubu will most certainly remain president till 2027. Then he will attempt to cross the certificate bridge.
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by Intrepid01(m): 9:15am On Oct 07, 2023
@farooqkperogi; I have been a fan of you and your late wife since 2011. This your piece is objective and balanced. It is so sad that Obidients and Atiku followers hate the truth, they’ll peddle lies to drag Tinubu down. I’m not a fan of Tinubu because his life is shrouded in mystery and fraud but you can’t use fraud to unwrap fraud. I know these people know but they hate truth themselves and that’s why they want to use falsehood to defeat another fraud. This means those people and the accused person aren’t really different. The ongoing feud is purely personal, nothing about it is based on truth, accountability, honesty and integrity. It is about let’s pull him down we don’t want him. I hope Peter Obi and his supporters can read this article and explore the suggestion he made at the end of the article to verify the legitimacy of Tinubu’s educational and life claims, instead of peddling lies wishing it will become accepted as truth one day!.

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Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by TOPMAN4LIFE: 9:18am On Oct 07, 2023
Racoon:
It is not an Igbo thing or question but your reputation as a citizen of Nigeria and the respect of your nation as an entity. Did the Igbo race asked the self acclaimed godfather of Lagos politics to get himself enmeshed in the multiple fraud he has entangled himself in? Was it the Igbo that unearthed his real personality in the US. May you not die because of the Igbos.

Bola Adekunle Amuda Ahmed Sangodele Jagaban Tinubu have brought so much shame, disgrace disrepute, and embarrassment to Nigeria with this disgusting CSU certificate, identity theft and $460, 000 heroin-drug scandal all happening in the Chicago state of the US. Do zombiesm with some dignity and sense.
Leave Tinubu alone, no tribe commits crimes past your tribe, you people have brought different propagandas like pee for body, ill health that will make him spend all his days in hospital, drugs and certificate rumors etc, despite all these he continue to triumph over you,

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Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by zoedew: 9:21am On Oct 07, 2023
Racoon:

https://www.farooqkperogi.com/2023/10/ignorance-of-america-that-atikus.html
Farooq got this wrong. Atiku knows all these. His mission is to stay in the news and overheat the polity enough to damage Tinubu before 2027 when he hopes to make another try for the presidency. Tinubu knows so and lets Atiku have a long rope to pull at while he concentrates on leadership of Nigeria. Atiku is as dirty as they come and will be doomed in the final outcome. Watch!

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Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by omoyeni37: 9:23am On Oct 07, 2023
Omenlon:
I hope you know the road to Aso rock? Tinubu is not on nairaland, march to Aso villa and demand his resignation. If you can't do it alone you can go with your family or your village people.
Chai, you don finish am😊😊
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by NOETHNICITY(m): 9:26am On Oct 07, 2023
Wujio:



You dont listen either. Since the signature deemed forged, what is submitted to INEC is against the oath that all document submitted are valid and this makes it criminal. Shut up to understand context una no go gre
Signature cannot be deemed forged in a document essentially ceremonial. Go back and read again. Kperogi clearly advised that you must put aside your Nigerian perspective to understand the issue.



‘’ The major one is the idea that because Tinubu presented a certificate (called a “diploma” in America) to INEC that didn’t emanate from Chicago State University, whose registrar affirmed under oath that Tinubu graduated from there, he has committed forgery in the legal sense of the term. That thinking betrays ignorance of the American university system—and results from people using their limited Nigerian lenses to refract an American phenomenon that’s beyond their experiential reality.’ - Kperogi
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by Snakedoctor1: 9:30am On Oct 07, 2023
Racoon:

https://www.farooqkperogi.com/2023/10/ignorance-of-america-that-atikus.html

What kind of repeated grammatical blunders are coming from the American Prof?
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by DaddyJapan(m): 9:31am On Oct 07, 2023
InvertedHammer:
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Beyond all these grammatical acrobatics, my personal opinion goes this:

Tinubu probably entered school in US using false documents. Why? How? It was en vogue then to do such. As a matter of fact, before the use of computers to collect data by Immigration Services, siblings were traveling with documents of their brothers/sisters. The only check then was physical facial recognition using 2x2 passport. No fingerprinting. No electronic central database. That was the case of late Sen. Buruji Kashamu, who until his death claimed that his crimes were committed by his dead brother. But everyone and his/her grandmother knew the game back then.

The fact is that it is very difficult to prove today. Will I knock Tinubu for that? It says a lot about his integrity. But then who has integrity in Nigeria? Nigerians are all over the world claiming asylum for greener pasture. Who seeks equity must come with clean hands. We are opportunists. We are a nation filled with citizens that seek shortcuts in anything in life. Therefore, it is hypocritical to act holier-than-thou in this mess of a nation called Nigeria.

When Nigerians are ready to face the truth, they will. Until then, the end justifies the means. Let the best rigger and manipulator win./

All the evidence that I have seen points to the direction you've identified.
It is this and this alone that explains why a man barely out of his teens then - if we accept his 'official' age now - was driving a cab on the mean streets of Virginia. Olders took to that line of work at the time, not Youngers grin

The devil is always in the details... cool

Footnote: Tinubu's detractors need to sheath their swords for now. Nothing go happen...beyond the tightening of our laws to forestall future infractions. It is time to concentrate minds on our socio-economic challenges once again. Inhale/Exhale and channel your energies into other worthwhile endeavours.

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Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by walex2(m): 9:31am On Oct 07, 2023
Racoon:
Bola Adekunle Ahmed Tinubu committed forgery and perjury. He must be prosecuted, convicted and jailed this time around. The ones of 1974 and 1999 he escaped because of the gross rotteness of the Nigerian judiciary system.
you don't understand English read it again. Third party certificate can be issued as ceremonial by vendors, you can't said to forge a certificate because verification is done using a transcripts, you can't not forge what you genuinely earned. That was the summary
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by seunjungle1(m): 9:46am On Oct 07, 2023
Even we that are not professor have talked about it several times that if Atiku really want to do the fight or claim he's serious about this matter, he should started his investigation right from the college diploma Asiwaju used to secured himself admission into CSU.

But mind you, even if Atiku should start from there, he will still not get any meaningful result only because Asiwaju is not as corrupt as you guys are thinking...majority of you guys here might even end up in hell while Asiwaju will make heaven because some of you here engage yourself in some of these evil acts that if anyone close to you should hear about these evil acts you do on a daily basis, people will not hesitate to stone you guys to death.

Asiwaju have come to stay. You and your bosses can hug the nearest transformer close to you...advice though.
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by MeineMutter: 9:53am On Oct 07, 2023
BafanaBafana:
Did Tinubu present a fake document to Inec? That's the question?
CSU are trying to cover Tinubu from a safe angle. Kole werk!

One point we are missing is this, bereaucratic principles
dictataes you keep a duplicate copy for any documents you issue out. CSU said they don't have any certificate for Tinubu. The original one they made was given to someone else.
How can you give a certificate of your student to someone else?

That bureaucracy, I guess, is in Nigeria but not in the US.

On the day I went to collect by certificate at a business school I attended here in Europe, the office manager told me to keep my certificate well because the school does not have other copy.
I was not even asked to sign any document to show that I collected it.

Why some of us are still confused about this is because of cultural differences.

I am not a fan of APC or Tinubu but I doubt if Atiku can rely on his findings at CSU to get Tinubu nailed.

May be Atiku should take the advice of Farooq, by probing further on Tinubu’s other academic qualifications.
Re: Ignorance Of America That Atiku’s Lawyers And Supporters Betray By Farooq by chariiks(m): 9:54am On Oct 07, 2023
Racoon:

https://www.farooqkperogi.com/2023/10/ignorance-of-america-that-atikus.html
In America transcript is used abi but in Nigeria we use certificate or diploma.This invariably means that what we accept in Nigeria is certificate and that certificate was forged. We can't use so called transcript because that wasn't what was submitted to INEC

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