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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by achorladey: 7:32pm On Nov 25, 2023 |
Emusan: Looool and he had to quote you with explanation not requested to remove his exposed head from lies and manipulations packed into it. Now I get it well...... Aemmyjah said..... We leave all that in Jehovah's hands MaxInDHouse said..... Obviously you don't like hurting the feelings of others even though they are not members of the house of faith. Well this is what God's word said through it's study: To summarise Aemmyjah subscribe to the fact that the faith of new born babies lies in the hands of God while MaxInDHouse said No. Which brought their madness and insanities peddling about babies are enemies of God into full exposure once more. 1 Like |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by FRANELCLINIC: 8:22pm On Nov 25, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Okay, then, so (1) what did Jesus mean when he said “from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Barachaiah, . . . all these things will come upon this generation?” (2) what did Jehovah mean when he said that he brings punishment from error of fathers upon sons and upon grandsons? |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by FRANELCLINIC: 8:38pm On Nov 25, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: The inclination of the heart of man is bad ‘from his youth’ up. In Genesis 8:21, God made that statement: every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood. (NIV) everything they think or imagine is bent toward evil from childhood. (NLT) In fact, this was the very reason God decided to destroy that world with a flood, because all the thoughts of the human heart was only bad all the time. (even the seemingly good thought are rendered bad because of the underlying selfish motives behind those thoughts) |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Kobojunkie: 8:47pm On Nov 25, 2023 |
FRANELCLINIC:If you pay close attention to what Jesus Christ said you will note that He was speaking a prophesy of what was to come and not that which had already happened. 33 “You are snakes! You are from a family of poisonous snakes! You will not escape God. You will all be judged guilty and go to hell!At the time Jesus Christ spoke those words, the guilt in question had not been established, so what Jesus Christ said was definitely not in reference to what you assume — generational sins— which is established from the point the sin was committed onwards. 2. That is the same law that God now swore by His Life would no longer hold in Israel in Ezekiel 18 1 These are the things God told his people: |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Kobojunkie: 8:50pm On Nov 25, 2023 |
FRANELCLINIC:BUT what has the inclination of man's heart to do with the committing of sin in this case? Did God establish from the beginning that He judged and condemned men by the inclination of their hearts and not their acts of disobedience against Him? If yes, where is this stated? |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by FRANELCLINIC: 8:54pm On Nov 25, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: I believe that it is for the following reasons: Both Job 14:10-12 and Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6 tells us that death is a state of unconsciousness, just like sleep. 2 Thessalonians 1:8, 9 tells us that what await the wicked is everlasting destruction. Revelation speaks of the lake of fire, but chapter 20:14 lets us know that it is symbolic in two ways: (1) death and grave are to be hurled there. Should something as abstract as death and grave into a literal lake of fire? What good will it serve? Will death undergo torment? Will the grave? (2) the lake of fire is the second death is to be understood in the same way as Revelation 1:29 which says that the seven lampstands are the seven congregations. No one thinks that it refers to literal lampstands, so why should anyone think that Revelation 20:14 means a literal lake of fire? Isaiah 34:9, 10 uses the same symbolism to mean complete devastation and destruction. And this understanding is in line with the rest of the scriptures which tells us that the dead are unconscious and unaware. But the understanding of a literal lake of fire is incompatible with verses such as Jeremiah 7:31. |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Kobojunkie: 9:20pm On Nov 25, 2023 |
FRANELCLINIC:1. So, you conveniently ignore God's own declaration as far as death, in the beginning when death came to all mankind as a result of one man's sin, to assert instead that stated after the context that the Nation of Israel was introduced? 19 You will work hard for your food until your face is covered with sweat. You will work hard until the day you die, and then you will become dust again. I used dust to make you, and when you die, you will become dust again.” - Genesis 3 vs 19 2 a. Isn't the problem here instead from the fact that you imposed a literal interpretation on information clearly presented in vision format? b. So, you are aware that a literal interpretation is unacceptable yet you suggested it earlier for what purpose? What was the point of referencing Revelations 20 when clearly you are aware it ought not to be interpreted literally? 3. Is it me or are you somehow not able to answer the question for even yourself? You seem to be quoting from all over scripture, ignoring context and all, and all I asked is where exactly you believe God Himself said sinners are to end up. |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Aemmyjah(m): 5:50am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Emusan: He was speaking about when God judges the earth. At thst time, Jehovah will bring salvation to his own people. I don't know why you keep wailing over the outcome for babies as if you were the one that created them. Jehovah can give and he can destroy. All his judgment are righteous. We seen that regarding the great flood, the death of the firstborns in Egypt, Sodom and Gomorrah... Some brothers who lost their infants have expressed hope they'll see them again. It's better we leave that to God to worry about. The most important thing is for us to get to the promised new world and the resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous will begin during the 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ. There are still details we don't know. You too never said anything significant but to mention your other moniker and be wailing. Covetous man that is still mad over another man's wife... Well, I respect Max so much. I look forward to reading his comments and how he answers question and I use them to impress myself and my ministry cos he has sound reasoning. I always wish to see him and respect him pass my own dad. Still, he remains my brother. You yourself are not reasonable. It is greed for someone's wife that is worrying you |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Aemmyjah(m): 5:53am On Nov 26, 2023 |
FRANELCLINIC: 💯 |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Nobody: 8:59am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Cool |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Zooposki(f): 9:00am On Nov 26, 2023 |
AwokenVawulence: Kobojunkie:
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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by tunjijones(m): 9:00am On Nov 26, 2023 |
AwokenVawulence: Lol... U are funny and kinda stupid. |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by seunayantokun(m): 9:01am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Where else do they go? |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by femi4: 9:01am On Nov 26, 2023 |
AwokenVawulence:Remember that they couldn't decipher anything. That is why doing water baptism for infant is wrong cos they didn't understand its purpose |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Expanse2020(m): 9:02am On Nov 26, 2023 |
AwokenVawulence:GBAM you nailed it |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by oliverano: 9:03am On Nov 26, 2023 |
CoronaVirusPro: You've been baited by a troll Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣 His moniker though 😂😂😂😂 |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Solofresh2: 9:03am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Agba sukkot your attention is needed here |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by fawaz050(m): 9:03am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Is it his fault that he is uncircumcised? AwokenVawulence: |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Expanse2020(m): 9:04am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Amotolongbo:If heaven does not exit there wouldn't be something call firmament in this earth |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by ValarDoharis: 9:05am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Heaven na scam! Naijaplos: |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Segxydube: 9:05am On Nov 26, 2023 |
AwokenVawulence: You dont know anything |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by ValarDoharis: 9:06am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Heaven na scam AwokenVawulence: |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by AdaAwka1: 9:06am On Nov 26, 2023 |
AwokenVawulence: Wrong quote /assumption |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Expanse2020(m): 9:06am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:Is this also inside Bible because this is just white man law not God and Jesus law according to what bible said once you are born from a woman automatically you are a sinner |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Burruchaga71(m): 9:06am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Naijaplos: Can you please tell us where heaven and hell is located |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by guywitzerogal(m): 9:07am On Nov 26, 2023 |
CoronaVirusPro:contribute your own quota what do you think, let other people learn instead of criticizing another person option because to me that is what i also thought. |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by Sleekfingers: 9:08am On Nov 26, 2023 |
Naijaplos: In this 21st century, this one is still believe in imaginary heaven and hell. |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by ohosi4real(m): 9:08am On Nov 26, 2023 |
They return back to heaven without sin. Infact a child from 0-6 does not know sin. |
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Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by backbone503(m): 9:10am On Nov 26, 2023 |
AwokenVawulence: You won't have said this if you were born to Jewish parents in Israel, Islamic parents in northern Nigeria, or Buddhist parents in China. Jesus might be the way to God for you, but he isn't the only way to God |
Re: Do Newborn Babies Go To Heaven When They Die by MrJames007: 9:12am On Nov 26, 2023 |
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