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The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by samuk: 12:28am On Dec 31, 2023

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by PoliteActivist: 12:54am On Dec 31, 2023
Seems Binis founded all major cities in Yoruba

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by AreaFada2: 4:39am On Dec 31, 2023
samuk:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/12/the-benin-prince-who-founded-ile-ife/
I have said for years that unless our Yoruba people come up with a more objective and credible story on Oduduwa, objective outsiders will consider Edo version way more credible. Even by many diaspora Yoruba that were not fed on tribalism. They will seek to know what is more scientifically plausible. But I was shouted down. It's beginning to happen.

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by funmijoyb(f): 5:29am On Dec 31, 2023
PoliteActivist:
Seems Binis founded all major cities in Yoruba
Na Bini founded China and Japan including Indonesia. grin

Binis did not found anywhere in South West

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by funmijoyb(f): 5:31am On Dec 31, 2023
AreaFada2:

I have said for years that unless our Yoruba people come up with a more objective and credible story on Ododuwa, objective outsiders will consider Edo version way more credible. Even by many diaspora Yoruba that were not fed on tribalism. They will seek to know what is more scientifically plausible. But I was shouted down. It's beginning to happen.
Oduduwa was a Yoruba king from Ile-ife was more credible than that.
Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by samuk: 9:22am On Dec 31, 2023
AreaFada2:

I have said for years that unless our Yoruba people come up with a more objective and credible story on Ododuwa, objective outsiders will consider Edo version way more credible. Even by many diaspora Yoruba that were not fed on tribalism. They will seek to know what is more scientifically plausible. But I was shouted down. It's beginning to happen.

Most none Benin or Yoruba people who are not emotionally attached to the history will use their objective minds and sense of reasoning to see the history for what it is.

The simple question for a sensible person, will be which is more plausible between Oduduwa falling from the sky as the Yoruba claimed or Oduduwa being a Benin prince according to Benin traditions.

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by AreaFada2: 11:57am On Dec 31, 2023
funmijoyb:

Oduduwa was a Yoruba king from Ile-ife was more credible than that.
You did not read my submission well or if you did, you didn't reflect on it before commenting. Did anyone say he wasn't king in Ife?
The attitude I see in many SW people, even in diaspora, is that of "we are more educated and we know it all. Who are these other people to have a contrary opinion? But when discussion goes deep, many quickly realise that others have not been sitting on their hands over the decades. And may be surprised to learn things they didn't even know about SW or own hometown history.

Now the the question is: Oduduwa coming from the sky or migrating from Benin, or even Kogi (some Kogi people believe a Benin prince went through their land on the way to Ife), which will a discerning mind find more plausible? Without politics or doublespeak.

The other one of coming from Saudi, Egypt, Lamurudu/Babylon, Khartoum abi na Gaza, mankind came out of Africa. When will we finally accept that this corner of the earth is where we have always been, with gradual movements around the area according to exigency? shocked shocked

In Benin, virtually everyone now acknowledges that Ogisos were given heavenly origins in early days to cement their divine authority, not in literal sense.

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by AreaFada2: 12:03pm On Dec 31, 2023
funmijoyb:

Na Bini founded China and Japan including Indonesia. grin

Binis did not found anywhere in South West

I know we are on an anonymous forum where people can type anything, but if you are serious to know, pm me and I will give you places founded in SW by Benin people and still acknowledged by monarchs in the area till today. It's better you find out yourself. You can go, send someone or make simple phone calls to check. Don't say anyone already told you. Just appear as a curious person. At least this is simple enough.

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by funmijoyb(f): 2:18pm On Dec 31, 2023
AreaFada2:

I know we are on an anonymous forum where people can type anything, but if you are serious to know, pm me and I will give you places founded in SW by Benin people and still acknowledged by monarchs in the area till today. It's better you find out yourself. You can go, send someone or make simple phone calls to check. Don't say anyone already told you. Just appear as a curious person. At least this is simple enough.
First and foremost Benin is not a single tribe is combination of tribes of Esan, Ijaw, Idu and Yoruba people's merger. The Aborigines of Igodomigodo are the Esan people. before, many Yoruba had migrated into it and requested for a king from Ile-Ife to come and rule them. Oranmiyan a Yoruba prince and warrior came and defeated the Esan's Ogiso and chiefs of Igodomigodo. To make it a Yoruba town, he renamed the town he ruled Ile Ibinu in Yoruba language and imposed Obaship a Yoruba title on his new territory in an attempt to make it a Yoruba land just like other territories and towns founded by many Ile-ife princes
Till today Bini has a lot of Yoruba words used with Esan and other Igodomigodo languages.

Oranmiyan founded the new tribe "Bini" that is composition of Igodomigodo tribes eg Yoruba, Esan, Ijaw and Idu people. These combination of cultures and tradition is what you're calling Bini today.
Bini people are not of a single tribe. Yoruba played a vital role on Ile ibinu cultures and traditions.
In fact, many Yoruba sees it as a Yoruba land till today.

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by funmijoyb(f): 2:25pm On Dec 31, 2023
AreaFada2:

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I can give you 10 towns founded by Yoruba in Edo state but Yoruba are just not claiming they own the state.

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by Christistruth03: 7:41pm On Dec 31, 2023
Another pack of lies and Fake History

Obagodo who was also known as Ogiso Igodo was the Founder of Igodomigodo now known as Benin

Obagodo and his followers from Ile Ife were sent out by an Obatala dynasty king of Ile Ife

Obagodo is Yoruba for Oba Igodo


obagodo who founded Igodomigodo Kingdom with his followers from Ife was an Ife man believed to
be a Prince of the Obatala dynasty

Even Oba Erediauwa of Benin Wrote in his Biography that Obagodo from Ile Ife Established the Benin Kingdom

obagodo means Oba of Igodo in Yoruba and he was also known as Ogiso Igodo

Obagodo of Ile Ife Founded Benin and the Ogiso dynasty

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by Christistruth03: 7:56pm On Dec 31, 2023
Go and Check oba of benin praise names

He is the Son of Oduduwa of Ile ife




If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished benin Palace praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo that got lost is none of the oba of benin's highly accomplished praise singers business , nobody send am and they are not interested in finding him either

As far as they are Concerned oba of benin is the Son of Oduduwa the Olofin Adimula and Ruler of Ile Ife

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by UGBE634: 6:40am On Jan 01
Christistruth03:
Another pack of lies and Fake History

Obagodo who was also known as Ogiso Igodo was the Founder of Igodomigodo now known as Benin

Obagodo and his followers from Ile Ife were sent out by an Obatala dynasty king of Ile Ife

Obagodo is Yoruba for Oba Igodo


obagodo who founded Igodomigodo Kingdom with his followers from Ife was an Ife man believed to
be a Prince of the Obatala dynasty

Even Oba Erediauwa of Benin Wrote in his Biography that Obagodo from Ile Ife Established the Benin Kingdom

obagodo means Oba of Igodo in Yoruba and he was also known as Ogiso Igodo

Obagodo of Ile Ife Founded Benin and the Ogiso dynasty
there is nothing like Obagodo, don’t be a fool, there was no Yoruba presence in Benin kingdom pre Oba dynasty. It is istrictly Ogiso igodo. The way it is pronounced by people propagating the Obagodo already renders it useless. How will you have Ogiso ”Oba”godo alongside, it already renders it useless. That would mean king king godo

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by UGBE634: 6:55am On Jan 01
funmijoyb:

First and foremost Benin is not a single tribe is combination of tribes of Esan, Ijaw, Idu and Yoruba people's merger. The Aborigines of Igodomigodo are the Esan people. before, many Yoruba had migrated into it and requested for a king from Ile-Ife to come and rule them. Oranmiyan a Yoruba prince and warrior came and defeated the Esan's Ogiso and chiefs of Igodomigodo. To make it a Yoruba town, he renamed the town he ruled Ile Ibinu in Yoruba language and imposed Obaship a Yoruba title on his new territory in an attempt to make it a Yoruba land just like other territories and towns founded by many Ile-ife princes
Till today Bini has a lot of Yoruba words used with Esan and other Igodomigodo languages.

Oranmiyan founded the new tribe "Bini" that is composition of Igodomigodo tribes eg Yoruba, Esan, Ijaw and Idu people. These combination of cultures and tradition is what you're calling Bini today.
Bini people are not of a single tribe. Yoruba played a vital role on Ile ibinu cultures and traditions.
In fact, many Yoruba sees it as a Yoruba land till today.
Benin is a single tribe with influence from other tribe just like Yoruba with influence and migrations from Bariba, Nupe, Edo, Fulani, returnee slaves from other countries and all.


You guys like to regurgitate things in ignorance, you read and listen to nonsense online and regurgitate without research. There is no Esan community older than urhonigbe or Udo and these are pure Bini communities. I dare you there is almost no word that is in the Bini lexicon, that is not also in Esan, yet again many of these words are cognates between Edo/Igbo/yoruba, e.g Okhorkor, Ologbo etc an ignorant person will just observe for Edo and Yoruba and not bother to check Igbo if there is a version of it there and assume it was borrowed.If you understand Edo, even if it is two percent, you will know Esan is the corruption and not Edo. If you observe how these clans migrated from Benin, the period in view, you would find out that the closest to Benin linguistically in Esanland according to their oral accounts migrated the latest.Igueben, Urohi till today is still 85 to 90 percent Bini.

Bini or Edo is a full tribe with linguistic presence in about 8,500km square expanse of land. Esan is spoken in a little under 3000 km 2 of land.tell me which is more dominant and visible. Oranmiyan’s presence does not extend beyond Benin city and a section of the western part,(bear in mind that90% of Binis residents in Benin city are from other Bini villages and towns,)In fact Oranmiyan sank in the Edo sea on ground.

Esan does not have an Ogiso, at best they experienced it with us, again Ogiso is peculiar to Bini/Edo. If Esan is to replicate in writing, it would be Ojiso, then the Urhobos would be Oviso,these are the three largest Edo groups in the Edoid linguistic space. That would already cement Edo/Bini as one of the three major languages in the Edoid linguistic space with it own unique pattern and structure.

This is corroborated by the fact that the Olu of Warri that migrated in the fifteenth century is styled the Bini title of king “Ogie” and not Ovie or Ojie the Urhobo and Esan version respectively. He is titled Ogiame tsuo and not Ojiame or Oviame, that is an Edo/Bini linguistic marker

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by Christistruth00: 8:18am On Jan 01
UGBE634:
there is nothing like Obagodo, don’t be a fool, there was no Yoruba presence in Benin kingdom pre Oba dynasty. It is istrictly Ogiso igodo. The way it is pronounced by people propagating the Obagodo already renders it useless. How will you have Ogiso ”Oba”godo alongside, it already renders it useless. That would mean king king godo


From your own Oba Erediauwa of Benin

Obagodo who took the title Ogiso established the Kingdom of Benin with a Large Retinue From Ile Ife


Ife Founded Benin!!!!!!!!

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by UGBE634: 8:30am On Jan 01
Christistruth00:



From your own Oba Erediauwa of Benin

Obagodo who took the title Ogiso established the Kingdom of Benin with a Large Retinue From Ile Ife


Ife Founded Benin!!!!!!!!
Oba Erediuwa is a Yoruboid Benin or seem to be one, the version of history from the palace has always been Yoruboid, if you tell this to the ogiamens and the core Binis, it is laughable to us, that has always been my stand here, i have been vocal about it, to your serious scholars here, scholes, etc not you that feed from crumbs.even to my own kinsmen areafada a Yoruboid Bini and to all other of my kinsmen here.

It has even caused me hatred, it is the palace version here that has always led to this back and forth and what we would term the yorubanization of Edo history

Bini did not have anything to do with Ife pre oba dynasty!!!!!!!!!!! Tell it to the Ogiamens and see them look at you as a clown. This is a family that actually thinks the Oba of Benin came from Yorubaland and they rented some parts of their land to him

The Ogiamen family is a might family, not a push aside, a visible one to all Nigerians, visibly opposed to the Obas family, in fact at every coronation of a new Oba, some Ogiamen family members are arrested because of scuffle between them and the Oba’s family.
You can’t do selective research on issues and be whole, you leave the Oba Erediuawa ikaladerhan story and you take the Obagodo, you claimed the first one is a blunder and the second one is not.

You quote the ogiamens when they say the Oba is a foreigner, won’t you bother to think about what they have to say about the Ogisos also, or it does not matter, that of the Oba whose story has been seen to be faulty on many grounds would do now because it suit your skewed narrative

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by funmijoyb(f): 9:43am On Jan 01
UGBE634:
Benin is a single tribe with influence from other tribe just like Yoruba with influence and migrations from Bariba, Nupe, Edo, Fulani, returnee slaves from other countries and all.


You guys like to regurgitate things in ignorance, you read and listen to nonsense online and regurgitate without research. There is no Esan community older than urhonigbe or Udo and these are pure Bini communities. I dare you there is almost no word that is in the Bini lexicon, that is not also in Esan, yet again many of these words are cognates between Edo/Igbo/yoruba, e.g Okhorkor, Ologbo etc an ignorant person will just observe for Edo and Yoruba and not bother to check Igbo if there is a version of it there and assume it was borrowed.If you understand Edo, even if it is two percent, you will know Esan is the corruption and not Edo. If you observe how these clans migrated from Benin, the period in view, you would find out that the closest to Benin linguistically in Esanland according to their oral accounts migrated the latest.Igueben, Urohi till today is still 85 to 90 percent Bini.

Bini or Edo is a full tribe with linguistic presence in about 8,500km square expanse of land. Esan is spoken in a little under 3000 km 2 of land.tell me which is more dominant and visible. Oranmiyan’s presence does not extend beyond Benin city and a section of the western part,(bear in mind that90% of Binis residents in Benin city are from other Bini villages and towns,)In fact Oranmiyan sank in the Edo sea on ground.

Esan does not have an Ogiso, at best they experienced it with us, again Ogiso is peculiar to Bini/Edo. If Esan is to replicate in writing, it would be Ojiso, then the Urhobos would be Oviso,these are the three largest Edo groups in the Edoid linguistic space. That would already cement Edo/Bini as one of the three major languages in the Edoid linguistic space with it own unique pattern and structure.

This is corroborated by the fact that the Olu of Warri that migrated in the fifteenth century is styled the Bini title of king “Ogie” and not Ovie or Ojie the Urhobo and Esan version respectively. He is titled Ogiame tsuo and not Ojiame or Oviame, that is an Edo/Bini linguistic marker
The major tribe ancient Bini people came from is the Ishan or Esan. Can you tell me the name of your tribe before Oranmiyan came to Igodomigodo? Please answer this question.

Esans are the Aborigines of Igodomigodo( present day Benin) bf Ile-Ife people migrated and seized it via Oba. The Itsekiris are more related to Yoruba compared to Edo. Let an Itsekiri speak I will understand as a Yoruba. If an itsekiri speak an Esan, Edo or Ijaw part of your ancestors will not understand.

Go to the Akoko Edos, many bears Yoruba names and its part of their traditions. Many part of Edo still speaks Yoruba language till today. You think we are not aware how cruel you people are to them?

Now tell me the name of your tribe before Oranmiyan came to Igodomigodo? You people calling yourself Bini today are descendants of Esan plus Yoruba. Period!

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by UGBE634: 9:58am On Jan 01
funmijoyb:

The major tribe ancient Bini people came from is the Ishan or Esan. Can you tell me the name of your tribe before Oranmiyan came to Igodomigodo? Please answer this question.

Esans are the Aborigines of Igodomigodo( present day Benin) bf Ile-Ife people migrated and seized it via Oba. The Itsekiris are more related to Yoruba compared to Edo. Let an Itsekiri speak I will understand as a Yoruba. If an itsekiri speak an Esan, Edo or Ijaw part of your ancestors will not understand.

Go to the Akoko Edos, many bears Yoruba names and its part of their traditions. Many part of Edo still speaks Yoruba language till today. You think we are not aware how cruel you people are to them?

Now tell me the name of your tribe before Oranmiyan came to Igodomigodo? You people calling yourself Bini today are descendants of Esan plus Yoruba. Period!
you have apex ignorance, have you even bothered to find out how the Esans got the name Esan in the first place, the Word Esan means they fled, it is a Bini word . Before the coming of Oranmiyan, we were called Ivbi-idu. Idu people. That is the earliest name of the Edo people , we still occasionally call ourselves that today

There are no Yoruba group in Edo state, in Akoko Edo, you have Okpamheri, Ososo, Uneme, Akuku,Okpe, none of them are Yoruboid linguistically. At least their first language has been studied and seen to be Edoid. Go and read comparative Edoid by Ben Elugbe. They only speak Yoruba as a second language to cope with their immediate Yoruba neighbors they are surrounded by. They are Edos living close to the Akoko area of the Yorubas and we see them as Edos


Edo is not related to Yoruba or rather the relationship Edo has with Yoruba is not innate or rather a blood related affiliation, it is geared more towards association, just like the French and English. So you can’t hear what we are saying

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by Christistruth00: 10:16am On Jan 01
UGBE634:
Oba Erediuwa is a Yoruboid Benin or seem to be one, the version of history from the palace has always been Yoruboid, if you tell this to the ogiamens and the core Binis, it is laughable to us, that has always been my stand here, i have been vocal about it, to your serious scholars here, scholes, etc not you that feed from crumbs.even to my own kinsmen areafada a Yoruboid Bini and to all other of my kinsmen here.

https://guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/

It has even caused me hatred, it is the palace version here that has always led to this back and forth and what we would term the yorubanization of Edo history

Bini did not have anything to do with Ife pre oba dynasty!!!!!!!!!!! Tell it to the Ogiamens and see them look at you as a clown. This is a family that actually thinks the Oba of Benin came from Yorubaland and they rented some parts of their land to him

The Ogiamen family is a might family, not a push aside, a visible one to all Nigerians, visibly opposed to the Obas family, in fact at every coronation of a new Oba, some Ogiamen family members are arrested because of scuffle between them and the Oba’s family.
You can’t do selective research on issues and be whole, you leave the Oba Erediuawa ikaladerhan story and you take the Obagodo, you claimed the first one is a blunder and the second one is not.

You quote the ogiamens when they say the Oba is a foreigner, won’t you bother to think about what they have to say about the Ogisos also, or it does not matter, that of the Oba whose story has been seen to be faulty on many grounds would do now because it suit your skewed narrative


In other Words you are saying Oba Erediauwa lied when he said Obagodo of Ile Ife and his Followers Established the Benin Kingdom and Ogiso dynasty

Ogiamen family always say Oba of Benin is from Ile Ife and the Ekhalerderhan Story is nonsense

That doesn't negate that Obagodo of Ile Ife and his followers from Ife founded Igodomigodo Kingdom which is now Benin

Obagodo and his followers were the Ancestors of the Aboriginal Benin because 31 Ogiso ruled Benin before Oranmiyan and Eweka

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by UGBE634: 10:23am On Jan 01
Christistruth00:



In other Words you are saying Oba Erediauwa lied when he said Obagodo of Ile Ife and his Followers Established the Benin Kingdom and Ogiso dynasty

Ogiamen family always say Oba of Benin is from Ile Ife and the Ekhalerderhan Story is nonsense
is it not obvious enough, or you like selective truth, i am telling you to not only quote other families when it suits and throw their narrative in the thrash can when it does not. I have to use the Ogiamen family because it is mighty as well. I am telling you selective truth will not help you and it will not make you whole

The same Ogiamen family will not agree with you that Igodo came from Ife, that is my point, you don’t care about that or you hellbent on taking the one that suits you alone

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by Christistruth00: 10:26am On Jan 01
UGBE634:
is it not obvious enough, or you like selective truth, i am telling you to not only quote other families when it suits and throw their narrative in the thrash can when it does not. I have to use the Ogiamen family because it is mighty as well. I am telling you selective truth will not help you and it will not make you whole

The same Ogiamen family will not agree with you that Igodo came from Ife, that is my point, you don’t care, you don’t care about that or you hellbent on taking the one that suits you alone

In other words you think Oba Erediauwa was lying when he said Obagodo of Ile Ife and his followers from Ife founded Igodomigodo Kingdom which is now Benin

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by UGBE634: 10:27am On Jan 01
Christistruth00:


In other words you think Oba Erediauwa was lying when he said Obagodo of Ile Ife and his followers from Ife founded Igodomigodo Kingdom which is now Benin
Are you mad? What else do you want from me

My points is succinct and clear, if you have a brain, it is so easy to comprehend.

The Ogiamen are not less Binis, they are even more, their opinions should matter to you too. They have a different opinion on that issue

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by funmijoyb(f): 11:07am On Jan 01
UGBE634:
you have apex ignorance, have you even bothered to find out how the Esans got the name Esan in the first place, the Word Esan means they fled, it is a Bini word . Before the coming of Oranmiyan, we were called Ivbi-idu. Idu people. That is the earliest name of the Edo people , we still occasionally call ourselves that today

There are no Yoruba group in Edo state, in Akoko Edo, you have Okpamheri, Ososo, Uneme, Akuku,Okpe, none of them are Yoruboid linguistically. At least their first language has been studied and seen to be Edoid. Go and read comparative Edoid by Ben Elugbe. They only speak Yoruba as a second language to cope with their immediate Yoruba neighbors they are surrounded by. They are Edos living close to the Akoko area of the Yorubas and we see them as Edos


Edo is not related to Yoruba or rather the relationship Edo has with Yoruba is not innate or rather a blood related affiliation, it is geared more towards association, just like the French and English. So you can’t hear what we are saying
Usen in Edo was founded by Oranmiyan senior brother by seeing this I know your historian (Yoruba Haters) will now go to their village to falsify their history for them. Usen founded about eight other towns and are in Benin today. Their first language were Ife dialect.

Idu people is not an ethnic group it comprises the Urohbo, Yoruba, Esan, Ijaw even Igbo they migrated from Yoruba land area of Kogi and Osun to their respective lands is multi ethnicity not a tribe. Esan are more Idu people compared to you
You need to tell me your tribe before you became Bini

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by funmijoyb(f): 11:11am On Jan 01
UGBE634:
Are you mad? What else do you want from me

My points is succinct and clear, if you have a brain, it is so easy to comprehend.

The Ogiamen are not less Binis, they are even more, their opinions should matter to you too. They have a different opinion on that issue
Why are you so mad about what he said certainly correct go and look them up.he defeated you in your argument. Why you modern tribe of Bini wants everything to go your way. You have a lot of similarities with the Igbos but is the negative ones.

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by Evboesi: 11:22am On Jan 01
funmijoyb:

Why are you so mad about what he said certainly correct go and look them up.he defeated you in your argument. Why you modern tribe of Bini wants everything to go your way. You have a lot of similarities with the Igbos but is the negative ones.
defeat who? Bros finished him.You guys like selective truth a lot and that is your bane when seeking knowledge

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by funmijoyb(f): 12:00pm On Jan 01
Bini became a tribe when Oranmiyan from Ife a foreigner came to unite Igodomigodo tribes with his own tribe.
We know all the truth you people are trying to dodge. You think we don't know how much you're be paid to falsified falsehood on internet? Esan people are the Aborigines of Bini. Truth

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by Usenokpevbo: 12:07pm On Jan 01
funmijoyb:
Bini became a tribe when Oranmiyan from Ife a foreigner came to unite Igodomigodo tribes with his own tribe.
We know all the truth you people are trying to dodge. You think we don't know how much you're be paid to falsified falsehood on internet? Esan people are the Aborigines of Bini. Truth
Bini as a tribe was already in existence before the coming of Oranmiyan.As a tribe, Esans are offshoot of Bini

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by funmijoyb(f): 12:29pm On Jan 01
Usenokpevbo:
Bini as a tribe was already in existence before the coming of Oranmiyan.As a tribe, Esans are offshoot of Bini
Bini was never in existence. We have been saying it on nairaland since 5 years ago. Maxwell your fake historian saw it and falsified another history to tell Benin people that Bini has been in existence even before Igodomigodo dynasty.

I repeat there was no Bini or Ubini it was Igodomigodos of many tribes at the time. The Iduland tribes eg. Esan, Itsekiris, Ijaw, Igbo, Akoko edos languages, Afenmai and Yoruba These towns will soon tell their factual histories. You people will soon find out you are left out and well isolated from truth soonest.
All the propagandas history you're spreading, is only 50% of Bini people that are ignorantly believing it. You're going to put them all shames soon in few years to come. You people are second to Igbo in terms of acts.

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by funmijoyb(f): 12:32pm On Jan 01
Usenokpevbo:
Bini as a tribe was already in existence before the coming of Oranmiyan.As a tribe, Esans are offshoot of Bini
Binis are offshoots of Esan. Esans are the actual Aborigines.
You cannot tell traditional Esan person this he or she will completely disagree this with you. Esans are purely Edo tribe you're mixture of tribes.

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by Usenokpevbo: 12:35pm On Jan 01
funmijoyb:

Bini was never in existence. We have been saying it on nairaland since 5 years ago. Maxwell your fake historian saw it and falsified another history to tell Benin people that Bini has been in existence even before Igodomigodo dynasty.

I repeat there was no Bini or Ubini it was Igodomigodos of many tribes at the time. The Iduland tribes eg. Esan, Itsekiris, Ijaw, Igbo, Akoko edos languages, Afenmai and Yoruba These towns will soon tell their factual histories. You people will soon find out you are left out and well isolated from truth soonest.
All the propagandas history you're spreading, is only 50% of Bini people that are ignorantly believing it. You're going to put them all shames soon in few years to come. You people are second to Igbo in terms of acts.
you seem very emotional about this subject, i am from this very tribe you talk about, you seem like one who will not concede in the face of overwhelming evidence, should i bother convincing you or i should leave this subject. Are you affiliated to Esan or are you married to one
Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by funmijoyb(f): 12:37pm On Jan 01
When Oba of Bini came to tell the wrong history that he founded Lagos. We Yoruba tried not to be violent or insult him. No be say we no get craze o. na still respect we give am just because we know his source but pitied him cause he's being ignorant in public. By the time he say it another time. He will loose all his respect and we will relegate him to ordinary Ogiso. He will have to remove his crown before he enters any Yoruba Oba palace.

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Re: The Benin Prince Who Founded Ile-ife by Usenokpevbo: 12:40pm On Jan 01
funmijoyb:

Binis are offshoots of Esan. Esans are the actual Aborigines.
You cannot tell traditional Esan person this he or she will completely disagree this with you. Esans are purely Edo tribe your mixture of tribes.
Esans that are mixed with ika in Ekpon, mixed with Igala in Ilushi, Have droves of Igbo migrations in Uromi is not mixed ?
Or is it Yoruba that has loads of Edo mixture in Eastern yorubaland, loads of Fulani mixture in Ilorin, loads and loads of Bariba mixture in Ogbomosho, have mixture of Edo people and of returnee slaves in Lagos that is not mixed?there is even Nupe in Yoruba

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