RickyJesus:

Nairalanders can be very dumb and emotional, this would have being a good topic to discuss with the issues he pointed but this bunch of sentimental folks won't allow us to have an intelligent discussion, someone that went to Guinea for the negotiation due to landmass is who they don't even want to hear from.

Looking forward to read a good rebuttal from someone prominent with a good insight on the negotiations and deal carried out.

His basic argument was that they can do away with the north but that would limit how they can stretch through the sea and I am sure he is not saying that the north would have the other part, it will simply lead to the north not having any stake at the oil.

Either you use their landmass to get more access to sea or don't and case them away and make do with what you have.

frankson1:




Biafra must have done them bad before they chose to go that far.

Fujiyama:


^^^
He is not foolish.

He is many things but he is not foolish.

He isn't delusional. Nigeria's reality today supports his claims, whether people like it or not.

PureNigerDeltan:


Lemme help you with the division;
Niger Delta Republic
Arewa
Oduduwa
Biafra
Central Nigeria

PureNigerDeltan:


Lemme help you with the division;
Niger Delta Republic
Arewa
Oduduwa
Biafra[b]
Central Nigeria

babajero:
Nigerians una eye go clear las las, Ojukwu saw this in 1967 and try to warn Nigerians, but instead the same fulanis used Nigerians to fight their fellow citizens so that they can capture Nigeria. That is why a fulani man can come from anywhere in Africa and kill your brothers in your village and the government will back them up.

seunayantokun:


Not Hausa, please.
It is Fulani speaking Hausa. The masquerade you fail to understand makes life miserable for you. For your information, those people believe you and your land are their property to be dealt with anyhow. The earlier you know that, the faster you get a way out.

codemaniacs:


Ibibio Ijaws kalabari efik e.t.c are also Easterners but like fu:lanis hiding behind
"northerners" you an i:gbo is now trying to hide behind "Easterner" you're the one that's laughable.

[i]When oil was found in Bayelsa [/i]your I:gbo ancestors wanted complete control over it instead of giving the Ijaws complete control and now that your ancestors failed to respect and protect the interest of other Easterners you're having sleepless nights..

Your igbo ancestors created problems for southern Nigerians especially your fellow Easterners by abolishing regionalism and now you want problems created by greedy and corrupt I:gbo men to the be solved by the SW you must be very foo:lish and even more foo:lish for using emotional blackmail.

Iamanoited:
The FULANIS own NIGERIA
AND THE IJAWS OWN THE FULANIS.

Daveconsult007:

[/b]
Sadly, in a scenario of Nigeria's break up , the bolded areas will have a huge chunk shared of by big fishes.

Many small groups will align with bigger group for protection

PureNigerDeltan:


Niger Delta coming together is not a small group. It’s a big Fish! Very big fish

Daveconsult007:


It's good to have high hopes especially just for talks


ND doesn't have organic ingredients to be a big fish.
You don't wait till break up to start coming together.

You don't see groups in bonding aside coming to issue communique Regarding oil and gas issues.

Let me gave you clear example why I don't want take ND serious....I'm from cross river....if my community is facing eminent danger from invaders from Cameroon 🇨🇲 or terrorist militia herdsmen,
How long will it take for my allies in Warri, Sapele,Auchi, Brass,Ekpoma to come to.my rescue.....

*Meanwhile someone in Aba, abakaliki ,Arochukwu will be standing*

Let me not talk about the little squabbles here and there.


SS needs a unifying leader, sadly ijaws don't have the clout

PureNigerDeltan:


I was getting your point till I saw “Aba, Abakiliki and Arochukwu will be standing”... I don’t get that point. What brought in Aba to the conversation? So what you’re trying to tell me is if there is a crisis in Abia, people of Imo will come out to help? You clearly know that’s a BFL

The kind of problem you cited here is a National issue. It’s the type where Nigeria as a country will deploy soldiers to handle such matters. Niger Delta is not an independent State yet so what you cited is obtainable and so it’ll be with even your precious SE. Certainly you’re SE, you just used being Cross River citing an example.

I’m very much interested in your first comment. When you say the big 3 will take some parts of the other regions I called. Which parts and to which region will those parts of Niger Delta be added?

Daveconsult007:



Many of us are yet to understand our geography.

Kindly look at the Map of SS or ND.

I'm speaking based on my Local interest due my geography ...
In a possibility of Nigeria's disintegration or seccesion of any regions
The area I come from will probably face a possible aggression from militias in Cameroon or terrorist herdsmen from Northern Nigeria due our location

In a reality of the above-mentioned Scenario, how will other ND groups come to my people's rescue.

Check locations of Warri Sapele Benin Bayelsa to Cross river and akwa ibom
Also on same map Check Arochukwu Aba, Abakiliki to Cross River and Akwa ibom

These are not emotions but reality

This is why ND republic to doesn't appear serious to me

Arochukwu Aba, Abakiliki will be standing by because they're closest people to call on times of trouble due location not someone in Warri or Brass Benin city

PureNigerDeltan:


You’re not deceiving anybody… You’re from Abia State. You still don’t get the point I made. That’s not how international fights go. The country’s military will definitely be involved. You think when Borno had issues with claiming lake Chad you think they called Adamawa, Yobe or Gombe to assist them? Def NO! It was a national issue. Nigerian military will definitely be involved. there’s no relationship between the said locations you mentioned asides boundary. Someone from Cross River will choose Rivers, Akwa Ibom or Even Bayelsa to Abia, Benue or Ebonyi anyday. Same Abia and Imo shares boundary with Rivers but the inter State relationship is not there… we are closer to Bayelsa and AkwaIbom. You’ve not still answered my question Which part of the Niger Delta will be shared to which Region?

N/B: No sentiments here. I’m a born and bred Riversman and I’m telling you what is obtainable here

PureNigerDeltan:


You’re not deceiving anybody… You’re from Abia State. You still don’t get the point I made. That’s not how international fights go. The country’s military will definitely be involved. You think when Borno had issues with claiming lake Chad you think they called Adamawa, Yobe or Gombe to assist them? Def NO! It was a national issue. Nigerian military will definitely be involved. there’s no relationship between the said locations you mentioned asides boundary. Someone from Cross River will choose Rivers, Akwa Ibom or Even Bayelsa to Abia, Benue or Ebonyi anyday. Same Abia and Imo shares boundary with Rivers but the inter State relationship is not there… we are closer to Bayelsa and AkwaIbom. You’ve not still answered my question Which part of the Niger Delta will be shared to which Region?

N/B: No sentiments here. I’m a born and bred Riversman and I’m telling you what is obtainable here

Daveconsult007:



You're confusingly making assertions here.

What national issues are referring to, in a case of Nigeria's disintegration, which national institutions are you expecting to be functional?there won't be any countries military to combat anything.

Every body will fend for themselves and alliances will be going based on interest, geopolitics and ethnic loyalty.


It will boil down strictly to Regional and ethnic Supremacy expansionism.
You're asking me which regions will make move inwards into Niger Delta?
Let me ask you; where were you a Niger Deltan ethnic
group in delta state e invited larger Yoruba group in the Warri issues back then ?
Aren't you aware that Gani Adam's OPC , the foremost Oduduwa republic militia has a formidible presence in delta state over a decade ago?

What happens If Oduduwa expansionists sweep in from ondo to protect their Itsekiri kins ?
Do you know the kind of politics Awolowo played in the 60s in old western region which included Edo and delta ? How olu of itsekiri how promoted to olu of warri.

Are you aware that in the last confab conference of 2014, many hardliners from North demanded establishing of sharia courts in Edo(Auchi in mind)

What happens when these guys makes move to "protect Muslims" in Auchi.

These are realistic eventualities staring ND region in the eye.

Once beaten twice shy 🤭.
I'm from Northern cross river, despite being in smaller tribes, in the last decades we've witnessed the brunt of "being caught up in the middle". When Federal Troops invaded East/Biafra...it was through our region via Gakem.
Even till today, our people still witness being caught up ,
Do you know know how many times our people have been massacred by marauding terrorist herdsmen who attack from Benue,Taraba and even from Cameroon 🇨🇲 these days thanks to the ongoing conflicts there.

Again what becomes the fate our people in a scenario of disintegrated Nigeria and these existential forces attack again....

The idea ND groups forming their country is quite interesting because no one will be claiming majority...just small groups coming together to do their thing but beyond online media vibes, I don't see anything happening.

You don't see groups in the region building synergy like conferences and discussing any possible future unlike what we see in core north, Yorubas and Ibos.

I've been opportuned to travel around some Countries and I see these groups building these moves.

You are from Rivers state, are you Ijaw?
Can the ijaws rally the ND groups and show leadership in the region?
It's far beyond Oil politics and militancy


Having a country is not a child's play and it's time our people realize that and become serious

PureNigerDeltan:

M

Lolz who’s saying it’s a child’s play?. If only these Agwuyi Ironsi and Ojukwu were not greedy about owning the people of the Niger Delta. We would have had our country by now. Niger Delta was the first to agitate for a country but the people that called themselves our brothers wey we know say dem no be locked up Isaac Boro for championing that quest. Biafra too tried joining people that would not want to be with them and failed woefully. So I understand how difficult it is.


Wow you’re tutoring me on recent history sha.. in 2014 Northern Sharia wanted to establish Sharia in Edo(Auchi in particular) it’s understandable as majority of the people of Auchi are Muslims but the larger part of Edo are Christians. Same thing happened with Abuja, Gombe, Adamawa. It’s a normal thing. But what has this info got to do anything.

What do you mean by there won’t be any military to combat anything?? How was Biafra army formed? So you mean as North Korea was formed from South Korea it doesn’t have a military? As Montenegro broke out of Serbia they won’t have a military??

I repeat stop decieving yourself you’re not from any Northern Cross River… you may share a boundary with them doesn’t mean you’re them.

Still not answered my question what part of ND is going to be shared to what part of the other 3? You no even say na the people go wan join the Niger Delta you say na Niger Delta go come join. You think they form a Nation by force? The most important thing is an MOU from all the States involved. Just as it is now you see your IPOB and ESN and EbubeAgwu or your sit at home in Enugu, Anambra, Imo, Abia and Ebonyi… They share the Biafra dream. That’s what they have in common. Stop thinking in the clouds. The ND may not agitate but they’re not ending up with you guys no matter what. Imagine Cross River Signing an MOU with Biafra?? You know it’s only in an Igbo man’s dream you see stuffs like that. 🤣

Daveconsult007:



Regarding your State.


What will be the reaction or plan of an ND when
Ohanaeze makes same move opc will do in your State , claiming to protect their people.


These things that gives me great concern, I wish we can sit up and be more serious.

Peace ✌

PureNigerDeltan:

M

Lolz who’s saying it’s a child’s play?. If only these Agwuyi Ironsi and Ojukwu were not greedy about owning the people of the Niger Delta. We would have had our country by now. Niger Delta was the first to agitate for a country but the people that called themselves our brothers wey we know say dem no be locked up Isaac Boro for championing that quest. Biafra too tried joining people that would not want to be with them and failed woefully. So I understand how difficult it is.


Wow you’re tutoring me on recent history sha.. in 2014 Northern Sharia wanted to establish Sharia in Edo(Auchi in particular) it’s understandable as majority of the people of Auchi are Muslims but the larger part of Edo are Christians. Same thing happened with Abuja, Gombe, Adamawa. It’s a normal thing. But what has this info got to do anything.

What do you mean by there won’t be any military to combat anything?? How was Biafra army formed? So you mean as North Korea was formed from South Korea it doesn’t have a military? As Montenegro broke out of Serbia they won’t have a military??

I repeat stop decieving yourself you’re not from any Northern Cross River… you may share a boundary with them doesn’t mean you’re them.

Still not answered my question what part of ND is going to be shared to what part of the other 3? You no even say na the people go wan join the Niger Delta you say na Niger Delta go come join. You thing they form a Nation by force? The most important thing is an MOU from all the States involved. Imagine Cross River Signing an MOU with Biafra. You know it’s only in an Igbo man’s dream you see stuffs like that. 🤣

PureNigerDeltan:


That shouldn’t be any business of yours. You’re just evading my question. You can’t own up to your own comment earlier. A region must not have a militia before it forms a country.

Daveconsult007:


Did you really say this?
Wow.
It's obvious you don't know what it means getting a country.

I have maternal Ties in Cameroon 🇨🇲, I'm witnessing the Ambazonia struggle with relatives involved.

I just laugh at you with this statement.
Anyway, this is reason ND region for statehood hasn't gained much attention because many in the region don't know what independence entails.


When poo hits fan the each ethnic group in SS will chart their course and align with whomever will protect their interests and defend them against existential threats

My humble opinion....

Daveconsult007:



Regarding your State.


What will be the reaction or plan of an ND when
Ohanaeze makes same move opc will do in your State , claiming to protect their people.


These things that gives me great concern, I wish we can sit up and be more serious.

Peace ✌

Daveconsult007:



Didn't you see where I talked about OPC and Oduduwa expansionists in Warri.
Didn't you see my mention of Auchi by Sharia hardliners from North Nigeria.
Gani Adam's OPC has formidible presence in Warri.

I posted a screenshot of one group encroachment in your state and said it shouldn't concern me.

Well I have voiced out my fears though.

My humble opinion


There's an article I will advise you to read, It was written by one northern man over 15years , it's here on Nairaland ."If Naija Scatter"    Written by Nafata Bagamuje   Tuesday, 04 August 2009"

Get a glimpse of the reality of what I'm thinking.
Peace ✌