Joagbaje:

. . .althiea cannot stand a discussion with me, thats why he/she ends up with ungodly abuses. I've given benefit of doubt few occasion but the demonic venom inside can't just hold, it's always expressed in vile words. If you have truth to share,you will share it in love. That's why I hardly respond.

newmi:

To be frank this is not a discussion about Pst. Chris any attempt to bring him in is nothing but a big distraction can we focus on the contextual soul of the topic, anyway there are interesting points you raised l'd love to respond at a much convinient time

every time I counter your false teachings and you find you can't make any headway. You resort to shouts of "aletheia is abusing joagbaje" and yet you cannot and have not been able to produce a single post of me "abusing" you or using vile words either today or in the past

but like I promised you a couple of months back, as long as God gives me strength, I will not relent in exposing you and your cult called Christ Embassy

Joagbaje:

"I don't abuse joagbaje,but he's a cultist"

It's like the joke I heard some years ago. A man was told that there Are lots of complain about him because he gets angry easily. He replied "they are all liars ,I not get angry at all ,whoever say I get angry is silly."

Azibalua:

As Christians we can pray for the peace of nations
The issue btw Iran and the US have been on for a long time and with the way the issue of the American drone is being handled it's obvious that a crisis is looming
But what are we supposed to do? Sit and watch definitely not

Obviously some people are sold out to humans being wiped out just like that.

davidylan:

1. It is CLEARLY an Oyakhilome doctrine bro, i would appreciate a little honesty from Chris's lapdogs - please see here - http://uspeakoutnow./2011/02/11/yookosyou-own-the-cosmossays-pastor-chris-oyakhilome/

Yookos is it!! And the name Yookos….let me shout about that for a minute!! Hey!! The bible says we are the seed of Abraham and God willed the whole world to Abraham and to his seed – we own the world! So every time you sign in on Yookos, you are testifying to that truth, the world belongs to you!! You cannot be broke! You cannot be poor! You cannot be jobless….

davidylan:

1. Note the clear goal behind the "you own the world" doctrine is the material acquisition of wealth and NOTHING about the salvation of the soul of the hope of Christ's appearing. It is all about maaney!

davidylan:

2. Note the insidious lie here - "God willed the world to Abraham and his see" . . . hmmm nowhere does God do so in the bible! The promise to Abraham was to make him a nation through the seed of his son Isaac. God never promised Abraham the whole cosmos at any point. abraham was already a tremendously wealthy man BEFORE God called him or gave him a promise so we know quite clearly the promise had nothing to do with material wealth either.

chrisj2000:

Since your god has not answered all the prayers christians have said for Nigeria, all these years we've witnessed a worsening situation in Nigeria. It's becoming clear that prayer is the cause, not the cure.
In the light of our observations about prayer, it makes no sense that you should start praying over USA and Iran issue. America is in huge debt, the world power is weary of war after Their experience in Iraq and Afghanistan. So don't pray to prevent something that will never happen.

ogajim:

^^^^

Release the HOUNDS

They are coming out of the woodworks sharing the same PC/IP address as usual, hey, I forgot you all worked in the same "office" for the same guy

newmi:

Sincerely my friend l can't see anything wrong this or perhaps you would appreciate the opposite; ". . . you are too small to own the world. . . you must be broke! l say tou must be broke. . . shout amen somebody! You can be poor. . . because poverty makes a man humble! Yes you can be jobless because you never could tell that could be God' plan for you amen oh somebody shoud amen!

mabell:

Now this is common sense,
Dogs give birth to dogs
Cats give birth to cats
Goats give birth to goats
Kings give birth to kings

Shikena

mabell:

Say Amen Pastor kuns and congregation
Let me add newmi,
you will know no peace, say amen ogajim

newmi:


if this is true and l  don't have any difficulty believing it then there should truth in the postulation that l as a child of the one who owns the whole world in like manner as His heir owns the whole world or is this to difficult to comprehend.

newmi:

Sincerely my friend l can't see anything wrong this or perhaps you would appreciate the opposite; ". . . you are too small to own the world. . . you must be broke! l say tou must be broke. . . shout amen somebody! You can be poor. . . because poverty makes a man humble! Yes you can be jobless because you never could tell that could be God' plan for you amen oh somebody shoud amen!
l think that sounds like it. The problem is that people are not sincere with themselves sycophants pretenders.

newmi:

If it was then that would be a narrow interpretation. Have you ever heard the saying: health is wealth

newmi:

 ok lets assume "God never promised Abraham the whole world" like you said. please just few questions
1. do you agree that God owns the whole world?
2. do you agree that we are sons of God in Christ Jesus through the Spirit?
if no then what do you make of these verses of scriptures

Romans 8:14-17
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint- heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with[ him], that we may be also glorified together.

newmi:

^^^^
1 John 3:2
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

if this is true and l  don't have any difficulty believing it then there should truth in the postulation that l as a child of the one who owns the whole world in like manner as His heir owns the whole world or is this to difficult to comprehend.
Now this is not one pastor's sermon this is scripture

mabell:

Now this is common sense,
Dogs give birth to dogs
Cats give birth to cats
Goats give birth to goats
Kings give birth to kings

Shikena

newmi:

@davidylan
Genesis 13:14-17
14 And the Lord said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:
15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
16 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth,[ then] shall thy seed also be numbered.
17 Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it unto thee.

You see my dear, the understanding or perhaps more appropriate the mindset of owning the world as heirs of God is not literal relating to material things or physical things rather its a[b] consciousness of a reality without any recognizeable limits whatsoever[/b], a mindset of ABSOLUTE possibilities thats why God told papa Abraham ". . . as far as your eyes can see. . ."
in like manner Jesus made a profound statement
Luke 17:21
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Azibalua:

What a very high level of contradiction
You contradict yourself a lot,

every time I counter your false teachings and you find you can't make any headway. You resort to shouts of "aletheia is abusing joagbaje" and yet you cannot and have not been able to produce a single post of me "abusing" you or using vile words either today or in the past

but like I promised you a couple of months back, as long as God gives me strength, I will not relent in exposing you and your cult called Christ Embassy

Joagbaje:

"I don't abuse joagbaje,but he's a cultist"

1. The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment.
2. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
3. The group is preoccupied with making money.
4. Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
5. Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
6. The leadership dictates sometimes in great detail how members should think, act, and feel (for example: members must get permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married; leaders may prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, and so forth).
7. The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity).
8. The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society.
9. The group's leader is not accountable to any authorities (as are, for example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream denominations).
10. The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have considered unethical before joining the group (for example: collecting money for bogus charities).
11. The leadership induces guilt feelings in members in order to control them.
12. Members' subservience to the group causes them to cut ties with family and friends, and to give up personal goals and activities that were of interest before joining the group.
13. Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group.
14. Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.

dare2think:

Can someone explain to me how one 'owns' the world?

Yes Mr Newmi, it is difficult to comprehend.

So, please explain;

What is it that you own?

the world in general?

or its content?

1. The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning
commitment.
2. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.

5. Mind-numbing techniques (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, debilitating work routines) are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).

7. The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity).
8. The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which causes conflict with the wider society.
9. The group's leader is not accountable to any authorities (as are, for example, military commanders and ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream denominations).
10. The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify means that members would have considered unethical before joining the group (for example: collecting money for bogus charities).
11. The leadership induces guilt feelings in members in order to control them.
12. Members' subservience to the group causes them to cut ties with family and friends, and to give up personal goals and activities that were of interest before joining the group.
13. Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group.
14. Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.

Joagbaje:

Newmi come and see definitions o
According to these funny definition of cult above , Jesus Christ fits in , Apostle Paul fits in. If  they fit in PLEASE COUNT ME IN! . Anyone who doesn't fit in here does not know Jesus Christ. So speaking in tongues is part of cultism.

These guys don't go to church, they have no pastor, they don't know the holy spirit talk less of being filled with the spirit . Yet they want to dictate for the body of Christ and re difine Christianity

how sad . How can a man not know the holy spirit. It is a life of blindness, Sensual and head knowledge.