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Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Beaf: 3:43pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
cap28: All Niger Delta people were agreed in their battle against oppression, only a fool wouldn't know that. So please go chew grass elsewhere with your rambling "born to rule" worshipping crap. Keep to "herbs" and preaching that Gaddafi is alive to your fellow phased out fools, instead of typing in capital letters about stuff you don't know. |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Nobody: 3:51pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
It should be obvious to all now that the supporters and sympathisers of boko haram are: 1. northern muslims 2. yoruba muslims 3. the islamic/arab world and iran |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by kettykin: 3:53pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
Goodluck , if you dont want to end up like Aguiyi ironsi , please open up Channel of Communication with NATO, US , Great Britain, China, India South Africa, Germany ,European Union, France,Japan Russia e.t.c and raise the world Sercurity Alert for Terrorism to Red and and make sure all the borders and ports and airports are closed for all northern retired generals who openly vowed to make the country ungovernable and their accomplices in Nigeria , lets see how Arewa will react and if the can resist up to 30 months fighting an Igbo/ijaw/MB backed foreign war |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by cap28: 3:57pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
Beaf: oh really - were you and your niger delta people also in agreement with the bombings perpetrated by MEND and kidnappings of oil sector expatriates because if you were then you have no moral right to stand in judgement on boko haram. so MEND were fighting against oppression were they? but boko haram are also fighting against oppression - does it mean that MEND can kidnap and kill but boko haram can't? As i have told you before i would rather worship a man who improved the lives of his people than a sell out western coward stooge who sells out his own nation to western oil corporations and international banking interests - A dullard who is so weak and gutless he cant even guarantee the security of his own country - FOOL!!! |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by dayokanu(m): 4:05pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
So basically you are saying the Niger Deltans are in support of the numerous MEND killings in the country? yet you have the cojones to blame Northerners for what you admitted Niger Deltans did. Well from that logic we can say Niger Deltans were the first people to support killing of innocent Nigerians in the name of agitation and struggle for whatever cap28: Excellent points. The moment the President started making excuse for a terror group, the tone was already set and its unfortunate the route Retardeen has taken and where it has landed us. Buhari crushed maitsaisane, Yar Adua crushed Boko Haram when they first started. The moment we started rewarding acts of terror with Presidential excuses |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Beaf: 4:13pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
I see that the addled fool called crap 28 aims to derail the thread with id!ocy about MEND. I will ask a couple of simple questions. Were ND commanders in charge of the battle against MEND? Also, were ND non-commissioned officers sent into the creeks after Tompolo? It is ok to make up dumb stories about Gaddafi that defy commonsense and reality, but boko haram is not far away like Gaddafi's Libya; it is right here in Nigeria. The commanders of the battle against boko haram cannot be boko haram sympathisers. that should be clear enough to even the most yam headed individual. Also, anyone equating the Niger Delta struggle with boko haram is a little beyond mad. |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Nobody: 4:21pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
Beaf: fact they both started out as private militias for politicians fact they have both committed murder arson and crimes against the state fact they have both been defended by prominent public figures gej and the sultan fact their most visible members are common thugs fact beaf has condemned mend's leader his onetime hero okah as a terrorist |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by cap28: 4:21pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
DeeMain: I have always said that the January 66 coup was a NATIONALIST coup which happened to be dominated by igbo soldiers - the problem we have in nigeria is that we have too many illiterates like Beaf who do not understand anything about history or world politics. Nigeria does not exist in a vaccum - the sooner we realise this the better, Igbos were used as the scape goats to prevent a nationalist movement in nigeria, the northerners were given the power and the military might by britain that is a fact taht illiterates like Beaf can not come to terms with, stating this fact does not mean that one is kow towing to the north it is simply a recognition of reality. Nzeogwu/Ifeajuna's nationalist coup was unsuccessful because the northerners were led to beleive that the igbos had an ulterior motive - to cease power from them and usurp their position - THIS WAS A HUGE LIE. The fact of the matter is that we are now faced with an islamic sect that has been hijacked and usurped by external forces and this sect is hell bent on triggering a war between north and south we should not allow ourselves to fall victim to a repeat of the biafra/nigeria civil war in which 3 million igbos lost their lives needlessly. Ba.stard cowards like beaf will not have the balls to pick up a weaon and fight if the situation deteriorates into civil war, these gutless beasts are only good at stoking the flames of division which is exactly the direction in which boko haram are pushing us. Let us be wise and vigiliant and ignore the demonic rantings of the ball less coward aka beaf |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by cap28: 4:37pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
Beaf: WHERE IS YOUR PROOF ?? YOU BA.STARD. YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT ANY NORTHERN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE LINKED TO BOKO HARAM. YOU ARE STOKING INTER ETHNIC HATRED AND DIVISION WITHOUT ANY CONCLUSIVE PROOF - do you not understand how dangerous this is? You are trying to open up a Pandora's box which will end up in the loss of thousands if not millions of lives - DO YOU WANT A REPEAT OF THE BIAFRA/NIGERIA CIVIL WAR? |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Relax101(m): 4:41pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
[flash=400,400] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGMB9Z4t5Xc[/flash] Only an insane person would say MEND didnt know what they fought/fighting for. Abeg wetin boko haram dey fight for? shay na desert encroachment abi na wetin? |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by eros(m): 4:50pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
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Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by cap28: 4:53pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
Relax101: MEND say they are fighting for freedom from the exploitation and grand theft perpetrated by the western oil companies and their nigerian stooges in their region. That is the same way boko haram say they are fighting against freedom from western exploitation of the entire country. According to them the easiest way to put a stop to this exploitation is by imposing sharia law all over nigeria and banning western education because western education is the root cause of the current and ongoing mass brainwashing of the nigerian people. |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Beaf: 4:57pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
cap28: Maybe you also know boko haram more than the Northerners themselves? Fool. Keep to weed addiction and other stuff that gutter types get up to. [size=14pt]Sarah Jubril blasts Northern Generals, leaders[/size] http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/nov/21/national-21-11-2011-001.html Sani was reacting 24 hours after the arrest of a former governor and a serving senator for their involvement in the activities of Boko Haram. http://newnigerianpolitics.com/2011/11/22/northern-leaders-not-terrorists-%E2%80%93acf-then-condemn-boko-haram/ Or maybe all those arrested as sponsors and spokespeople for boko haram are Southerners and Middle Belters. Liars will see white and call it black. Drug inspired dunce. |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by houvest: 5:03pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
cap28: Good points here but ascribing BH activities to external forces is a cop-out. BH is clearly an agenda against GEJ and an attempt by the core North to make a stake for Aso Rock come 2015 if there is still a Nigeria. I AGREE THAT BEAF'S PANACEA IS A LITTLE EXTREME AND WOULD BE A CALL FOR A COUP AND EVENTUALLY WAR BUT HE IS ENTITLED TO HIS OPINIONS. WHAT FOLKS SHOULD COME UP WITH IS THERE OWN SOLUTION IF THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH BEAF. I HAVE ALREADY SAID MINE. Northern elements severally said it that they will make Nigeria ungovernable if GEJ won the election and this they are carrying out through BH. Getting the help of Al qqaedda or Saudi Arabia or Iran is part of the agenda. If Southerners do not accept this and prepare for the coming events,but rather ascribe these to some conspiracy theory,they are clearly on an ostrich adventure and it will be too late when they eventually pull up their heads from the sand and wake up to the harsh reality. |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by zebudaya(m): 6:16pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
Jonathan is President Jonathan has access to almost unlimited funds Jonathan has an Army, Navy, SSS, Police, MOPOL Jonathan has jails and western support Jonathan was pretty much given a mandate by the people To whom much is given much is expected. I am tired of all these "dog ate my homework excuses". If the northern elite is using Boko Haram to make the country ungovernable, then arrest them, shame them, jail them abi? Instead of wasting time doing nothing. Follow the money. Strike the Shepherd and the sheep would scatter. Kill the financiers, kill the leaders. That's how all leaders from Moses , to King David, to Obama have done it. It's not rocket science. Sudan killed a major Darfur rebel leader on Christmas day http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16328441. Dude was living in Libya and fighting for Gadaffi, when Gadaffi lost power, Sudanese intelligence was chasing the guy all around the desert. They finally killed him on Sunday and dealt a big blow to his rebel group. So what's Jonathan's excuse? You need to understand the guy has been in Aso Rock since July 2007. He was Yar Adua's VP. So after having 5 years experience running a 150 Million+ country, being in all the security meetings why is he acting like a dummy. His predecessor was called Baba go slow. GEJ is not moving at all. All these Northern Elite is undermining him excuse is crap. Republicans undermine and try to embarrass Obama every chance they get. Same thing was done to Bush by the Democrats. Look at how Labor insults the English prime minister. |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by houvest: 7:36pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
zebudaya: Believe whatever you want. Soon very soon, the chicks will come home to roost . Then people will forget about Obama and Cameron and republicans and democrats.Only it will be so unfortunate that none of us sounding these warnings will be able to say toldya |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Nobody: 9:21pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
zebudaya: Finally, someone is making sense! It's left for the commander in chief to act or surrender the title to people who can put an end to this nonsense. If I may ask, what's the president good for and what's he up to? A dumb fellow always looking for excuses! |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by emmatok(m): 9:58pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
BEAF:Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? ME:this |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Nadanbata: 10:00pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
cap28: No they havent lools. wool over their eyes. |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Onlytruth(m): 10:10pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
DeeMain: You seem to be new here (politics section), well, let me be concise; HELL WILL FREEZE OVER FIRST before the bolded happens in Nigeria. If I were to fathom a guess, I would say that the Core North may support it (about 30%), the middle belt (about 40%), the mid-west (about 50%), Yoruba (about 5%), East (about 98%). These are just my rough guess, going by opinions of Nigerians on this forum. IMHO, that is why there can never be peace in Nigeria. |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by anorue401: 10:30pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
hey guys i school in jos the truth is dat a muslim man can allow his broda to commit a hard crime and alegate it to religion,, in jos we have soldiers hu wia paid 5million naira to kill xtians dats muslim soldiers, every tyme u hear an attacks on d villages just know its d hausas , cattlereares or normadics are bhind em all, even crisis starts wen d xtians wants to attack bck u 'll c soldiers troopin in , God save us cos i wish rilly b posible it wil b good cos 2 third of our soldiiers are hausas trust 42years of reign na, d soldiers dat are core northerners are aiding n championing boko namas afta all how much will FG pay as against 5million to much money ;Dbut God wil punish em to grave if em w[b][/b]ont change [color=#990000][/color] |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by assetstrap(m): 10:44pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
I have read most of the posts and i have to agree with @houvest, he seems to have a good grasp of what the situation is. @beafs proposal we all know it is an extreme move, but the underlying fact is that the core North controls the army full stop. Anything to change the dynamics is very welcome to the wellbeing of Nigeria and there are several ways that can done, some of which have been put forward. From my own little understanding i think the North is telling Goodluck that they are in control and he knows this. To rule over a country like naija you have to have BALLS, large ones, you have to be smart and surround yourself with die hard loyalists. Goodluck knows who is behind BH the question is does he have the backing to go after these animals, is he ready for the fallout that will inevitably follow. Goodlucks heart is not really in it and so for this reason he will not move against the real power brokers in the north and so we are left with broken lives of disposable people. BTW i think @houvest knows more than what he advocates, please tell us what really is going on!! |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Nobody: 10:45pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
@OP You must be one sick fellow. Have you lived in the North? Do you know that Muslims are also affected? Like others said, most of the people that have died are muslims. BH are islamist who want to impose sharia law. This is a terrorist problem we have here. Stop trying to create a division here. If you want to continue,you Niger Delta folks should carry your cross including GEJ. Leave the rest of us out of this. Stop being a buttlicker and propagandist. I live in Kano and BH is not welcomed here by Core-Northerners. If you want to fight war; go ahead with your Ijaw brothers. Why are you Niger Deltans so incompetent? You only know how to drink Sapele water. When igloo's are directly affected. We will know what to do. We did it in 1967; we can do it all over again. We are not cowards. But stop trying to drag us into your wahala. I have more respect for an independent man, than a man who takes orders from his western puppets. Ndigbo, take note. |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Nobody: 10:55pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
anorue401: ^^^^ see this guy only 2 post creating make believe stories in favor of the OP, any-who- what i want to ask is, what ever happened to the fact that the president can order state of emergency if the security situation in the area is really bad? why is he not doing that, not in jos, not in maiduguri and not in yobe, i wonder why also if he feels he loves this governors too much then how about this, any state that the president and/or NSA is not comfy with the security situation do not receive their monthly allocation for as long as it takes until they wake up and correct things, but nooooo because they have ulterior motives, they sell core north this - core noth that. again, nigeria wake up!! |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Onlytruth(m): 11:01pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
Olodostein: Your post did not address the issues he raised, and the solution to it. I don't know how you got off attacking innocent Niger delta folks who haven't even said anything against Ndigbo here. This is how some of you drag us into online conflicts with our neighbors with whom we have lived peacefully for thousands of years. If you enjoy living in Kano, STAY THERE AND DON'T RUN BACK HOME, EVER. The current issue is that bombs are going off in Northern Nigeria, and Igbos have died alongside other Nigerians in those bombs. Coming here trying to change the issues and muddle the waters can only deceive kids. Igbo and Niger delta are INSEPARABLE. The North (including your darling Kano) should secede and leave us in peace! |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Nobody: 11:10pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
^^^ dude the government is yours, what in the world are you waiting for? break the damn thing |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Nobody: 11:30pm On Dec 26, 2011 |
Onlytruth: What issue? For advocating blatant discrimination and imminent genocide? There is no issue to address here.Muslims are being killed by these Cowards as well. Northern elders are targeted. This is a terrorist problem and should be addressed as one. The sponsors just need to be apprehended.Even if something like this were to be proposed: is that how to go about it? GEJ got no balls. Eyahhhhh. The bolded is One of the most naive statements I have ever read. It clearly shows that you don't know your home turf. Have you ever come across an Ikwerre man before and hear what they say about YOU? Let me just tell you a little personal story. After the Nigerian civil war, my family were able to reclaim their houses in the North. But the one's they had in SS were stolen and gone forever by the people you call your "peaceful neighbors". In fact, an Hausa man has more respect for an igbo man than your so called "south south brothers". I respect an Hausa man because you know where they stand even when they are against you. The others are saboteurs, two faced with plenty of Judas Iscariot's like the OP- It happened during the civil war. Once beaten, twice shy. My friend. As for Ndigbo; we are on our own. Let us fight our own battle. Besides, the Largest Black Nation on Earth don't need to divide. Africa is already a laughing stock of the outside world. We don't need more disgrace. There is also external elements in this BH menace. Look deeper Nwanne mmadu. |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by bilaya(m): 12:03am On Dec 27, 2011 |
@ BEAF,I support what you said.I believe the purge should not be temporary but permanent.Let's not forget that Hausa/Fulani soldiers are active participants in killings going on in Jos and Kaduna.Purge them from the army like beaf suggested. |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Onlytruth(m): 12:06am On Dec 27, 2011 |
Olodostein: Thank you for laying your arguments clearly. I appreciate that a lot. However, if you look throughout this thread, no so called "Niger deltan" mentioned anything about Igbo. About the abandoned property saga, with all due respect, you left the MAIN reason why the Ikwerre was able to steal their fellow Eastern Nigerians' properties and got away with it. Do you think they could have done so unaided? Guess who aided and abetted that grande theft? THE NORTH OF COURSE! You see, when I say that Igbo and N'delta are inseparable, I mean every word of it because a huge chunk of Niger delta is Igboland, and Core Northerners know that fact, but it is not in their interest to allow such info out, hence they carved huge chunks of Igbo oil bearing lands into "SS", to achieve the same thing you are giving them on a platter -division and conquest of Eastern Nigeria. Every student of Nigeria's REALITY politics would know that there is NO SOUTH SOUTH. If a war ensues in Nigeria today, it would be evident to even children. The British who created North, East and West Nigeria were more honest to us than the Nigerians who created geopolitical zones and states. So, like I told you, if you love Kano (and there are a lot of Igbos who would rather be killed and buried in Kano due to reasons some of us would never understand, than settle anywhere in southern Nigeria), by all means stay there; but stop trying to divide Eastern Nigeria for easier conquest by your hosts (Hausa/Fulani). Some of us are old enough now to have a clear strategic view. |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by ShangoThor(m): 12:09am On Dec 27, 2011 |
The Northern States that adopted Sharia would be better served to combine forces and form a new Nation State,"you can't have your cake and eat it too". |
Re: Is It Not Time To Totally Purge The Army Off Core-northerners? by Tsiya(m): 12:13am On Dec 27, 2011 |
What kind of logical thinking is this? Is this suppose to be a solution to stop the bomb blast or the of alienating the Northerners? This line of thinking is not for solving the Nigerian problem but rather for creating more problems |
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