OmoPastor:

@ buzugee so what you say is that christians are irrelevant in world affairs? i disagree with you maybe you do not understand that winning souls is not the only job we have. i think we have neglected some of our responsibilities which has now become a problem now.

CHRISTIANS ARE NOT CALLED SALT AND LIGHT OF THE EARTH. THOSE WHO FOLLOW HIS LAWS STATUTES AND COMMANDMENTS AND HAVE FAITH IN HIM are called so

Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

christians are relevant in world affairs. not this world now. we are living in the era called THE REIGN OF THE GENTILES. the world has been handed to the wicked gentiles to rule
JOB 9 VS 24. The earth is given into the hand of the wicked;
right now we are living in GENTILE HEAVEN. why are we living in 'gentile heaven' ?

OmoPastor:

@ buzugee
what do you say to this?
Many christians have failed in their responsibility in this world instead they hide behind some scriptures (which are mis-interpreted) and toss the blames on the devil!

Imagine this:how can you say this? your point is that christians are dormant in world politics today or put in your opinion; they are expected to watch while the gentiles make a mess of this world for everyone?!

@ oloriooko
you said it all bro!

Christians are the reason the world has not been plunged into total chaos and bleak darkness. christians are the reason God is still interested in world affairs today then why are the christians less concerned about where they live today? the world has been delivered to us to maintain and keep in shape.

if we claim to serve so mighty a God, why should we be helpless in handling world politics the way it should be handled?

these unbels are responsible for policies that have direct impact on the propagation of the gospel today with some made to cripple or completely forestall the spread of the gospel, when are we going to have a loud voice in the affairs of the land. we have prayed, i think its time we play the game

go ahead and jump in the mud and go play with the pigs. dont act surprised when the lord tells you that you are too dirty to enter his kingdom

OmoPastor:

@ buzugee
its quite obvious that what we are discussing here is beyond your understanding and you sound too scared.

what do you have to say about countries where laws are made that forbids christians gathering together to fellowship? think of situation where a christian is in power. what is the Holy Ghost in you for? why do you have the name of Jesus? why are angels around you 24/7? why are you winning souls?

until we show them how to rule, they cannot get it right.

actually i think you are the one whose understanding is warped. you are off the world. you dont really know God. you just think you do. because if you knew God, politics will be the furthest thing from your mind. you are still searching for earthly glory.

OmoPastor:

@ buzugeeyou sound like one of these "holier than thou" people. your understanding is "warped"? you are off the word? you don't really know God? you just think you do? you are still searching for earthly glory?

bros, no offense o, you need to accommodate others in your life, stop thinking you are the only one going to heaven cos you are the one going to be surprised before Baba God Himself. stop being a deeper lifer cos heaven is meant for everyone Jesus died for and not only you

there is no earthly glory in being a politician cos your ultimate reason for being there will be to win souls.

you sound like one of those that think some people are not qualified to be saved cos their life style is too dirty for you.

we are not only going to reign when we get to heaven but we are reigning even here now! we live in two worlds as christians so why are you staying on one side of the street?

wake up bro, the world is yours.

numo86:

@omopastor, have professed christians not tried ruling b4 and aren't they stil into politicswhat has the result been?, bloodshed,racial discrimination,bigotry,cheating,riggings etc,
The popes got involved in politics in d past and d crusade came up that killed many, today in 9ja professed christians claim to rule but efcc dey always pursue then for back and bloodshed continues,
Wake up and realise that satan rules these political sits and position and d world in general, satan is d god of this world, and so if u want to get involved in politics u must worship him in 1 way or the other, why do u tink Jesus himself refused political positions when he came to d earth?who would better rule and change this wicked world?Jesus our perfect king or some imperfect men who don't knw there left frm there right??,
And as Jesus refused political sits because his kingdom is not part of d world he immediately urged his disciples to be no part of d world,
Humans can't change d worlds situation,christians can't even if all d popes and clerics run as presidents and governors in all d countries in d world, situations will still continue like this and intensify from bad to worse, until satan is locked up d world will remain crasy as it is but Gods people are to be focused and remain neutral like Jesus was,
d bible tels us what God will do to human rulership, D bible says Gods kingdom will crush all these political elements, I wonder what will happen to its rulers,ofcus u can answer that, u can claim christianity and run around politics but let Gods kingdom not catch up wit u in ur ambition, u might have urself to blame oo,
Becos when God descends on human rulership and d political world as revelation tells us both d kingdoms and its advocates will be destroyed, so be warned!!!!

OmoPastor:

@ buzugee

you seem to easily forget that we are called differently. never you rule out the possibility of a christian running politics the right way. so tell me how do you intend winning the politicians?

we are not talking about personal ambition here but extending the gospel to your world which is our ultimate assignment.

if you label them all sorts of names and paint them untouchable or something no one should go near then you cannot win them, politics itself is not evil rather men makes it evil.

you can be a politician with a difference irrespective of what obtains there now.

not trying to be mean to you but i see you are one of the people who are destined not to understand the word of God. it has already been pre-destined by God that only one third of the people on earth during the last days will understand the scriptures and be filled with the spirit to be able to decipher it, while two thirds will be filled with the spirit that does not understand the scriptures and are destined to be destroyed. i am afraid you are part of the hardened two thirds destined for destruction. go ahead and compete in your politics. it is well with you

not trying to be mean to you but i see you are one of the people who are destined not to understand the word of God. it has already been pre-destined by God that only one third of the people on earth during the last days will understand the scriptures and be filled with the spirit to be able to decipher it, while two thirds will be filled with the spirit that does not understand the scriptures and are destined to be destroyed. i am afraid you are part of the hardened two thirds destined for destruction. go ahead and compete in your politics. it is well with you

If a bornagain can vote then a bornagain can contest for elections

OmoPastor:

how can you be mean when you have "been destined by God to be part of the one-third that understands the scriptures"? i laugh you badly, you are so full of yourself while condemning others cos you think you know the scriptures.

you understanding of the scripture is so twisted and limited that i bet you know nothing. how can you say two-thirds are destined not to understand the scriptures, dude did you hear yourself? why is the Holy Spirit made available to all then? what do you think is the work of the Holy Spirit? are you sure you study the word with the help of the Spirit? so if some are destined to know the word according to your gospel, then why do we need to read or study the word when we know we are not destined to understand it? you have succeeded in twisting the word. i think you are surely the leading guy among those destined not to understand the word according to your gospel.
stop spreading heresies if you do not know what you are talking about. please consult the author of the word for clearer and better understanding of the word.

OmoPastor:
How then can christians influence the polity in this country? Do we let the heathen run it and make decisions that hinder the spread of the gospel? What can we do?

Excuse me but doesn’t Nigeria have more pressing issues than the “spread of the gospel” ?

can a pastor be a politician? I do not think so with the do or die attitude of politicians.

If by "qualified" you mean being "Christian" . . .then no I am not "qualified" in the slightest.

And as regards to your question, yes I am deadly serious. Why should the "spread of the gospel" be given greater priority in our current state?
Education, health, security etc are more pressing matters. If your motivation for seeking "born again" politicians is to further the gospel then remember that Aso rock is no altar and that such duties should be primarily exercised in church. If an Animist or Muslim etc wanted to propel their own belief system via the corridoor of power by the same admission that "heathens" shouldn't be left to "run it" how would that exactly serve our nation?

OmoPastor:

@ emofine
Do you know about this verse?

What is your definition of a "righteous ruler"? A "born-again politician"?

buzugee:
CHRISTIANS ARE NOT CALLED SALT AND LIGHT OF THE EARTH. THOSE WHO FOLLOW HIS LAWS STATUTES AND COMMANDMENTS AND HAVE FAITH IN HIM are called so. PART OF THE 614 LAWS STATUTES AND COMMANDMENTS IS BE IN THE WORLD BUT NOT OFF THE WORLD. IF YOU DABBLE IN POLITICS YOU ARE NOT OF THE LORD. YOU ARE OF THE WORLD.

what nation has good moral standing with the lord ? none obviously. look at the state of the world.

OmoPastor:
Is it possible for someone born again and full of the Holy Ghost participate in politics in this our country Nigeria or better put: can a pastor be a politician? I do not think so with the do or die attitude of politicians. How then can christians influence the polity in this country? Do we let the heathen run it and make decisions that hinder the spread of the gospel? What can we do?

harakiri:
What sort of question is this? Was Obasanjo not born-again when he looted billions of dollars? Is GEJ not a born-again christian? Is Lucky Igbinedion not a Christian? What is the difference between Oyakhilome and James Onanefe Ibori? Name ONE! ! !

Make una dey dia dey decieve una sefs all in the name of religion. With all the over abundance of religion (Christianity and Islam), Nigeria still remains forever backward and retrogressive.

F.O.O.L.Z.Z.Z.Z! ! !