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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:50pm On Aug 06, 2015
elampiro:


Ok.

But I am not castigating them. Just playing with ChristineC.

haha.

Christine is my person o.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:51pm On Aug 06, 2015
StarBoard:


haha.

Christine is my person o.

Okay sir. Carry on.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:04pm On Aug 06, 2015
elampiro:


Okay sir. Carry on.
grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:06pm On Aug 06, 2015
Iheanacho promoted to senior team.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 4:06pm On Aug 06, 2015
bigkesh:

Really?? Pray u play Lazio.....When Candreva,Anderson ,De vrij,Biglia and co....U go sabi
n what's so fantastic about Lazio?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 4:10pm On Aug 06, 2015
elampiro:
There is an adjustment to the offside rules. Hope you guys are aware?
if a player blocks d goalkeeper or the defender when standing in an offside position is deemed offside whether or not d ball touched d said offender.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuuDie(m): 4:31pm On Aug 06, 2015
StarBoard:


Well that's selective judgement.But I can see your point in the sense that commercial interest is involved.

Well. . . I think it's playing to the argument that Messi gets favoured.

On another note, where u been?

Bros. Your boy just port from naija... still dey try arrange myself in my new location!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 4:31pm On Aug 06, 2015
Imagine Westham's coach resting his key players for the game against arsenal on Sunday when he has a crucial Europa league qualifying match to play this evening ,considering that his side drew at home in d first leg.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 5:07pm On Aug 06, 2015
parrotibaba:
Imagine Westham's coach resting his key players for the game against arsenal on Sunday when he has a crucial Europa league qualifying match to play this evening ,considering that his side drew at home in d first leg.
Epl clubs careless bout Europa

You should know that by now
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 5:12pm On Aug 06, 2015
parrotibaba:
n what's so fantastic about Lazio?
They are good,nothing big.....but don't underrate them, the other guy wrote them off
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:52pm On Aug 06, 2015
bigkesh:

They are good,nothing big.....but don't underrate them, the other guy wrote them off
Ok
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 5:54pm On Aug 06, 2015
UniqueGem:
LOL!!! Guys liverpool have 8 first team strikers. When we dey manage only 1 & half.
Hehehehehe!gringringrin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 5:54pm On Aug 06, 2015
elampiro:
There is an adjustment to the offside rules. Hope you guys are aware?
And the new adjustment is?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 6:27pm On Aug 06, 2015
StarBoard:

Bro no need to castigate anyone.
Every United fan feels some sense of disappointment at this transfer.

Anyone not believing you at the time probably had high hopes that he would stay and prove us right.

End of discussion.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 6:29pm On Aug 06, 2015
elampiro:
There is an adjustment to the offside rules. Hope you guys are aware?

Yep, and to be honest, it sucks. It makes the game too restricted. Too many rules kills the fun of the game.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheUmmah: 6:53pm On Aug 06, 2015
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:08pm On Aug 06, 2015
TheUmmah:
undecided di maria gone but still more sour news inna the place!

www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/david-de-gea-to-real-madrid-confirmed-manchester-united-goalkeepers-girlfriend-edurne-garcia-lets-slip-move-is-completed-10442586.html

Old news. I want him out so we won't have a non-focused goalie. If he wants to leave, he should be allowed to leave. No player is bigger than the club.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 7:48pm On Aug 06, 2015
'UNITED WANTED TO SELL ME'

New PSG forward Angel Di Maria says it was Manchester United who wanted to sell him to the Ligue 1 champions.

The Argentine joined the Parisians in a deal worth £44.3m.

"First, you must know that Manchester United wanted to sell me," Di Maria said at his PSG unveiling.

"It is a shared decision between the three parties. They wanted to sell me. I also wanted to leave and PSG wanted me.
"But I am very happy be here. Manchester is the past."
what really happened?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:58pm On Aug 06, 2015
chrisley024:
what really happened?
Smokescreen
Dude can't bring himself to admit he wanted out so his advisers cook up this balderdash to save face.

Why miss a flight to join up with your side and prove you didn't want to leave in the first place?

van Gaal is a mad hatter but I'm not sure he himself would be crazy enough to sell a £60 million player after just one season taking a £15million loss along the way.

Or could he?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 7:58pm On Aug 06, 2015
^^^^^^^


He's trying to push d transfer saga away from his head. If united really wanted to sell him den de wouldn't hv asked him to report for preseason training in USA. He wanted to leave n united cashed in. EOD
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:02pm On Aug 06, 2015
Danhumprey:
And the new adjustment is?

New offside rule: Dermot Gallagher backs change for new season
Last Updated: 04/08/15 4:39pm

Former Premier League referee Dermot Gallagher thinks the altered offside rule will be easier to understand in practice. In recent seasons, players have been allowed to occupy offside positions without necessarily being penalised depending on whether they were thought to be actively involved in play or not. Now they will be punished if they clearly attempt to play a ball close to them when their actions have an impact on an opponent’s ability to play the ball.

At first glance, the reworking of the rule appears confusing but Gallagher, a Premier League referee for 15 years until he retired in 2007, thinks it makes the game more straightforward. He told Sky Sports News HQ: "A player has got to make an obvious action and clearly impact on their opponent’s ability to clear the ball. "I actually think it will simplify it. When you see the season unfold on Saturday, you’ll think that it’s one thing on paper and another in practice.

The new offside rule takes effect from the start of the 2015/16 season
"Don’t forget the managers and coaches have had referees visiting them throughout pre-season to go through clips and it won’t be a shock to them. "When this was issued in the summer, referees took this into their games so hopefully they will be as up to speed as the players."

Gallagher talked through a number of scenarios from last season to highlight how the rule might change which decisions are reached, including these three goals...

GOAL: Juan Mata (Manchester United) v Stoke City, 02/12/14
Marcos Rojo is marginally offside when Manchester United's Juan Mata takes a free kick against Stoke

THE SCENARIO: United have a free kick on the right which Mata takes and it swings in towards goal. At the point the ball is played, Marcos Rojo is in an offside position and he attempts to head the cross in but misses. Nobody else connects with the ball and Mata’s effort goes straight in, with a goal awarded.

THIS SEASON’S DECISION: Goal is disallowed.

GALLAGHER SAYS: Rojo has jumped for the ball and clearly gone to head it. He is clearly offside when the free kick is taken and the keeper can’t make his move until Rojo has either headed the ball or missed it. He is deemed to have had an impact on the goalkeeper, so that goal would be disallowed. Even though he doesn’t touch it, he has a chance to touch it. If that ball went 20 feet over his head, he wouldn’t be deemed offside because he would have no chance of playing it.

GOAL: Harry Kane (Tottenham) v Burnley, 20/12/14
Christian Eriksen (right) is in an offside position as Harry Kane takes a free kick but makes no attempt to play the ball
THE SCENARIO: A free kick is awarded to Tottenham on the left flank which Kane plays quickly down the wing. The ball rolls towards Christian Eriksen, who is in an offside position, so he steps out of the way and does not get involved in the passage of play. The ball is eventually crossed into the box by another player and finds Kane in an onside position. He heads in and the goal stands.

THIS SEASON’S DECISION: Goal is given.

GALLAGHER SAYS: This goal was given last year and would be given again this year too, the reason being that being in an offside position as Eriksen was is not an offence in itself. He makes no move towards the ball and doesn’t affect an opponent. He has got to make an attempt to play the ball, move towards the ball or affect an opponent to be offside and he didn’t do any of those three things. He stood his ground and under the guidance, that would be a goal this year.

GOAL: Kevin Mirallas (Everton) v Manchester United, 26/04/15
Romelu Lukaku (right) is in an offside position when the pass is played but remains inactive as Kevin Mirallas (top) runs on to score
THE SCENARIO: Ross Barkley lifts the ball over the United defence looking for Romelu Lukaku, who is in an offside position, but the ball runs past him to Mirallas instead and he runs onto it from an onside position. Lukaku stops briefly then runs alongside him looking for a pass as the two Everton players close in on David de Gea with no defenders in between. Mirallas chooses to shoot himself rather than pass and scores, with the goal awarded.

THIS SEASON’S DECISION: Goal is given.

GALLAGHER SAYS: Lukaku is in an offside position but stops and doesn’t affect the defender because the defender is on the wrong side of him. The ball goes through to Mirallas and he is allowed to continue. That was a goal last season and if it occurs again this season it will be a goal again. Lukaku has no impact on an opponent or the ball because it has gone straight over his head.

Of course, it won’t just be when the ball hits the net that potentially contentious offside calls will be made. There are several other scenarios where decisions made last season will change now, with Gallagher also explaining how these three incidents would pan out in the future...

MATCH: QPR v Crystal Palace, 28/12/14
Crystal Palace's Yannick Bolasie is in an offside position as he receives a pass from team-mate James McArthur
THE SCENARIO: James McArthur passes to Yannick Bolasie, who is in an offside but stays inactive and allows the ball to run past him. Mauricio Isla gets back to take possession for QPR and Bolasie closes him down, forcing the defender to play back to goalkeeper Rob Green.

GALLAGHER SAYS: Bolasie is now clearly offside. Last season you would have played on but Isla is then pressured by a player who was initially in an offside position into giving the ball back to green and QPR then lose the ball. The player pressured the defender because he started in an offside position. Isla’s options are closed down and he can’t play up the line and Bolasie has impacted on his ability to clear the ball as successfully as he wants to.

MATCH: Manchester United v Sunderland, 28/02/15
Connor Wickham (far right) is marginally offside when the ball is played up the line during Sunderland's visit to Manchester United
THE SCENARIO: A ball is lifted down the left wing to Connor Wickham in an offside position but United’s Antonio Valencia gets there first. Wickham then quickly closes down Valencia, who steps back inside and past his opponent to get out of a difficult situation in the corner of the pitch and surges upfield.

GALLAGHER SAYS: The Wickham situation is similar to Bolasie’s. He starts in an offside position and when Valencia gets to the ball, Wickham closes him down very quickly. As it is, the defender does pretty well to get out of that but Wickham would be offside now.

MATCH: QPR v Everton, 22/03/15
QPR's Charlie Austin (right) starts in an offside position and eventually runs to the near touchline without being penalised at any point
THE SCENARIO: A ball is played over the halfway line with Charlie Austin several yards offside in a central position. He keeps jogging as he allows James McCarthy to get back and move the ball out to the left wing. Austin tracks him and as the ball runs towards the touchline he closes McCarthy down but the Everton player is able to play up the line before he can get there.

GALLAGHER SAYS: Austin didn’t have offside given against him last season but he would now. This situation is a great example of how it’s different because as the defender comes away, Austin comes almost 40 yards across the pitch with him to eventually try to close him down again. You will see the flag going up in those situations more often because the assistant referees will be tuned in to it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 8:13pm On Aug 06, 2015
StarBoard:

Smokescreen
Dude can't bring himself to admit he wanted out so his advisers cook up this balderdash to save face.

Why miss a flight to join up with your side and prove you didn't want to leave in the first place?

van Gaal is a mad hatter but I'm not sure he himself would be crazy enough to sell a £60 million player after just one season taking a £15million loss along the way.

Or could he?
unless this cos no reason the board would sell after one season.

Actually it is a loss of about 4mil. 60mil/5yrs=12mil. Remaining 4yrs*12mil=48mil. 48mil-44mil[amount sold] =4mil. Not considering shirt sales.

He's ex now.

Griezmann, Benzema[just decent]/Lewy and Otamendi in to show we're serious for this season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:23pm On Aug 06, 2015
More here: New offside rule good for football, says Referees' chief Mike Riley

MATCH 1: Arsenal v Liverpool, 4 April 2015
THE SCENARIO: Liverpool are on the attack and the ball is looped into the Arsenal box with Raheem Sterling lurking close to the Gunners goal and the defensive line pushing out quickly. There's no offside flag............

THIS SEASON’S DECISION: This would be offside.

RILEY SAYS: Last season this would not be considered offside as the player didn’t touch or play the ball but obviously it has an impact on the game. Raheem Sterling blocks the defending player from being able to chase. The ball gets played into the penalty area, Sterling is coming back, makes contact with the Arsenal player and stops him from closing down on the other attacking players.

He has had an impact on that defender. Morally, he has come from an offside position and so he should be considered offside. This season with the new interpretation that would be considered offside

MATCH 3: Tottenham v Chelsea, 1 Jan 2015

Tottenham v Chelsea - Costa taps in but has been interfering with the Spurs goalkeeper?
THE SCENARIO: A memorable 5-3 win for Spurs but they didn't star very well after conceding an early goal. Eden Hazard's mazy run ended in a shot against a post, with Oscar firing the ball back towards Diego Costa who tapped in the opener.

THIS SEASON’S DECISION: Offside.

RILEY SAYS: This is a good example as how the law of interpretation has changed. Last season this was penalised as offside as the Tottenham player didn’t touch the ball but you can see as the cross comes over, the goalkeeper can’t decide whether to commit to diving in front of Costa or dive to try to save the ball. It impacts on his decision making. Costa is close to the ball, makes an attempt to play the ball and he makes an impact on the goalkeeper's decision, so Costa would be penalised for being offside


http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9935364/former-referee-dermot-gallagher-backs-offside-rule-change
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:27pm On Aug 06, 2015
parrotibaba:
^^^^^^^


He's trying to push d transfer saga away from his head. If united really wanted to sell him den de wouldn't hv asked him to report for preseason training in USA. He wanted to leave n united cashed in. EOD

I might be tempted to believe Gaal wanted to sell him. Gaal said the players that started against Barca would start the season. That meant Di Maria would start from the bench even if he resumed two weeks before the kick off of the EPL. The trauma of playing from the bench last season may still be fresh in his mind.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:28pm On Aug 06, 2015
chrisley024:
unless this cos no reason the board would sell after one season.

Actually it is a loss of about 4mil. 60mil/5yrs=12mil. Remaining 4yrs*12mil=48mil. 48mil-44mil[amount sold] =4mil. Not considering shirt sales.

He's ex now.

Griezmann, Benzema[just decent]/Lewy and Otamendi in to show we're serious for this season.
Pardon my economics. Not my strongest forte.

As per the signings, not sure we will see any of those. Were linked with Pedro and Gaitan.

Not so sure I'm looking forward to the new season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:36pm On Aug 06, 2015
elampiro:


I might be tempted to believe Gaal wanted to sell him. Gaal said the players that started against Barca would start the season. That meant Di Maria would start from the bench even if he resumed two weeks before the kick off of the EPL. The trauma of playing from the bench last season may still be fresh in his mind.
But still not enough to conclude he would eventually be sold.
Di Maria was quoted as saying he wanted to prove himself at United in his second season, implying he would not mind starting from the bench and grasp whatever opportunity he got with his hands.

Even if van Gaal wanted to sell him Di Maria didn't do himself any favors when he lost his starting place to Ashley Young of all people.
Juan Mata was played wide right but managed to come good at Anfield and vs City.It wasn't his favored position but he took the opportunity and used it despite being used in an awkward position.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:01pm On Aug 06, 2015
JayKayMaybachz:
Epl clubs careless bout Europa

You should know that by now

if you tell that lie long enough it wont make it the truth

Southampton lineup today has Stekenlberg, pelle, Wanyama, Tadic, Ward prowse Mane, Fonte

West Ham 4 weeks ago scrambled to a Penalty kick win over their opponent and today lost to a Romanian side
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:03pm On Aug 06, 2015
parrotibaba:
Imagine Westham's coach resting his key players for the game against arsenal on Sunday when he has a crucial Europa league qualifying match to play this evening ,considering that his side drew at home in d first leg.

West Ham already out of Europe

Season never start 1 EPL club out already. Soon someone would say he doesn't understand how UEFA ranked EPL 3rd soon to be 4th in Europe
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 9:03pm On Aug 06, 2015
chrisley024:
what really happened?

Maybe LVG also advised him to go AWOL when he was supposed to join the team on tour. Which coach will keep a player whose mind is elsewhere?

He wanted the move all along and there's no point keeping him. No player is bigger than the club.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 9:12pm On Aug 06, 2015
raumdeuter:


West Ham already out of Europe

Season never start 1 EPL club out already. Soon someone would say he doesn't understand how UEFA ranked EPL 3rd soon to be 4th in Europe
ok
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 9:13pm On Aug 06, 2015
raumdeuter:


West Ham already out of Europe

Season never start 1 EPL club out already. Soon someone would say he doesn't understand how UEFA ranked EPL 3rd soon to be 4th in Europe
After what their coach did I never expected them to go through ,it was as if the man was less interested to qualify for Europa ,how can u play a crucial game with 2nd elevens n reserve players just cos u want to prepare for d game against arsenal which 95% de r going to lose? Anyways d got the spot cos of fair play not cos de qualified for it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:16pm On Aug 06, 2015
parrotibaba:
After what their coach did I never expected them to go through ,it was as if the man was less interested to qualify for Europa ,how can u play a crucial game with 2nd elevens n reserve players just cos u want to prepare for d game against arsenal which 95% de r going to lose? Anyways d got the spot cos of fair play not cos de qualified for it.

Well 1 team already out. from England

The winner of Europa qualifies for the CL anyway so its an additional incentive

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