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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:38pm On Jul 05, 2016
SIRcumalot:
Jose as always been the manager I wanted to take over from SAF, if he does not save us,I honestly don't know who will.
hopefully he learnt enough from his Time with other clubs,for him to last for a long time here.

I think ManUtd has always been his dream club, others were just doors leading to Manchester

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:47pm On Jul 05, 2016
Thoughts?

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 2:00pm On Jul 05, 2016
PietroRico:
"You can tell me his pass is amazing but my pass is amazing too without pressure."



GBR1, I guess this is what you were looking for
Yes, yes. Thanks. This is it, exactly. grin

Mourinho was spot on. Rooney can only pass well when he's not being pressed. Even at those times, it's inconsistent with other basic things like first touch which Rooney never mastered completely even as a professional footballer. He can never be a good midfielder.

At best Mourinho would use him as a 10 or 9. It's not looking good for Rooney.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 2:12pm On Jul 05, 2016
the season should just do and start already...Lmao Mourninghoe is crae as phuck...cheesy

I just pray he sticks with his "specialists" talk tho.. no time for experimentation with the fat one and others!!!!

Rooney should better start off-season striker training!!!
#GGMU
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:14pm On Jul 05, 2016
Spot on

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 2:21pm On Jul 05, 2016
afrodoc2:

We still need to sort out the midfield.
what do you think about our midfield & players linked?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:25pm On Jul 05, 2016
So I was gone for a while, came back to the usual suspects and chaos on this borough:

Dayokanu arguing upandan with almost everybody in his quest to make sure he won the England-Germany hackeyned debate.

But always cowering whenever GBR1 his nemesis steps into the scene. grin grin

Dayokanu, À40, Panthanky and Airmark, always at each other's throat with the ever-present invectives like - "apoche cracra", "dindindrin", "amukunmeko", "apoda", "oponu" renting the air as always. . . And as usual, I end up not understanding any of those cuss words. embarassed embarassed angry

Adelana1, true to his nature - always being a menace to the retàrded Gayners, with the Gayners not failing to troll back United fans with Martial's position on the bench.

Kagawa10 - laying low for a while and turning to bishop T.D Jakes with his peaceful comments before I left, only for me to come back and found out he's gone back to causing mayhem on the United thread. A leopard can never change its spots. grin grin

Elampiro - unsurprisingly finding a way to defend White Pele even with all his mediocre displays after the Russia game. Typical Elampawa. grin

And how was I able to observe these ocurences? Quiet simple. . . .



By following the posts of Sports section's Don King - Nihilist. Always at the juicy and happening scenarios, covering the fights, beefs, and gbegberouns as it's happening LIVE!!! grin grin


I can authoritatively confirm that this ghetto is a more fun place to be than watching the boring Euro.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 2:25pm On Jul 05, 2016
SailorXY:
na you be my source na. abi you no credible enough?
grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 2:28pm On Jul 05, 2016
I still think Rooney has a head start by being captain. He'll be fixed in somehow. Only if he misuse his chance will he start sitting on the bench.

I think the reason he decided not to quit the national team yet is so as to still maintain the push of the English press in club welfare, but even that may not take him that far this time around. He simply has to earn his place or accept his fate.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 2:31pm On Jul 05, 2016
So Giggs wasn't even interested in the assistant job, he was eyeing the honey pot. Well it's better he goes and showcases his talent outside before returning to OT in the future, make he no come turn into Gary neville.


So far so good, Mourinho has identified the problems plaguing the squad, he's got a striker, a defender and an attacking midfielder/right winger, maybe na cm or dmf e de look for next.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:36pm On Jul 05, 2016
parrotibaba:
So Giggs wasn't even interested in the assistant job, he was eyeing the honey pot. Well it's better he goes and showcases his talent outside before returning to OT in the future, make he no come turn into Gary neville.


So far so good, Mourinho has identified the problems plaguing the squad, he's got a striker, a defender and an attacking midfielder/right winger, maybe na cm or dmf e de look for.

Giggs would have taken over if either of Moyes or van Goat performed well. Too bad we can't hand over the baton to him coz we need a coach to return us to our former level - and Giggs ain't that man.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:51pm On Jul 05, 2016
Sinizia

Is there still a debate about Germany and England? One would need to be on drugs to even compare them
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:06pm On Jul 05, 2016
SailorXY:
what do you think about our midfield & players linked?

Pogba and Matuidi would both be quality additions, my grouse with the Pogba deal is the transfer fee being bandied around. No midfielder is worth more than 60m unless you are going to be the next Zidane and I am not sure about Pogba's motivations and focus.

We need to add 2 central midfielders to the team preferably 1 that is more CDM/holding and one that is more box2box. The major question in that midfield is Schneiderlin, is he box2box or holding and is he really good enuf.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 3:14pm On Jul 05, 2016
raumdeuter:
Sinizia

Is there still a debate about Germany and England? One would need to be on drugs to even compare them

i don't think the debate will ever stop. All that is needed for the raging war to go on is for either England/English clubs or Germany/German clubs to perform badly, and the usual suspects - you, A40, Pataki and Airmark are back at each other's throat. Though I don't understand the Yoruba cusses, I simply improvise and enjoy the show. England fall hands sha. grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 3:17pm On Jul 05, 2016
where is kagawa na grin he's been silent for some time...anyways mou's quotes were typical mou...very blunt and honest...let's hope for d best
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 3:20pm On Jul 05, 2016
adeyemi2015:
I'm not seeing Mourinho playing Rooney as a Striker or a No. 10. Mata, Mikhi and Herrera are far better than him as a No. 10, also he can't bench Ibrahimovic or gets rated above Rashford!
Wayne..... the end has come!
Don't be so fast!
I think Jose would likely deploy the old famous Scholes' obsessed 4-4-2 tactic which is a recipe for disaster because first and foremost, we don't have a controlling midfielder in the centre nor is Mikhi/Martial touchline wingers. Both are at their best in a fluid system that allows them to roam, interchange and link up play.
Secondly, having a combo of 2 immobile sluggish Ibra and Rooney is asking for trouble. He seems to forget that Ibra is also a 9.5 and not your typical no 9. I hope Mourinho knows what he's doing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 3:28pm On Jul 05, 2016
Diademk07:

Don't be so fast!
I think Jose would likely deploy the old famous Scholes' obsessed 4-4-2 tactic which is a recipe for disaster because first and foremost, we don't have a controlling midfielder in the centre nor is Mikhi/Martial touchline wingers. Both are at their best in a fluid system that allows them to roam, interchange and link up play.
Secondly, having a combo of 2 immobile sluggish Ibra and Rooney is asking for problem. He seems to forget that Ibra is also a 9.5 and not your typical no 9. I hope Mourinho knows what he's doing.

mou has never favoured a flat 442,he's always said that a 4231 would always expose d two CMF cos he has 3 players in d middle..only when hes looking for a goal he switches to 442...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:35pm On Jul 05, 2016
sinizia:


i don't think the debate will ever stop. All that is needed for the raging war to go on is for either England/English clubs or Germany/German clubs to perform badly, and the usual suspects - you, A40, Pataki and Airmark are back at each other's throat. Though I don't understand the Yoruba cusses, I simply improvise and enjoy the show. England fall hands sha. grin grin

I can explain some of the cusses to you

"dindindrin" - Foool,

"amukunmeko" - Someone so foolish that he drinks his akamu with his mucus

"oponu" - Foolishh person like airmark

Why would anyone still be comparing Germany with England unless that person is a masochist. 50yrs of consistent EPL inspired England failure while Germany inspired by their Bundesliga players are making their 6th consecutive semi finals, the last time Engerland went that far was 20yrs ago

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 3:37pm On Jul 05, 2016
dubylhover:


mou has never favoured a flat 442,he's always said that a 4231 would always expose d two CMF cos he has 3 players in d middle..only when hes looking for a goal he switches to 442...
He thinks Rooney can play as a no 10 as well.
Let's wait to see what he does though. I still believe he would have to bin Rooney if he really want to succeed.
Him and Ibra combo is a disaster waiting to happen.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 3:48pm On Jul 05, 2016
Diademk07:

He thinks Rooney can play as a no 10 as well.
Let's wait to see what he does though. I still believe he would have to bin Rooney if he really want to succeed.
Him and Ibra combo is a disaster waiting to happen.

let's wait and see
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 3:50pm On Jul 05, 2016
afrodoc2:


Pogba and Matuidi would both be quality additions, my grouse with the Pogba deal is the transfer fee being bandied around. No midfielder is worth more than 60m unless you are going to be the next Zidane and I am not sure about Pogba's motivations and focus.

We need to add 2 central midfielders to the team preferably 1 that is more CDM/holding and one that is more box2box. The major question in that midfield is Schneiderlin, is he box2box or holding and is he really good enuf.
I can't see us buying both, that will leave us with a bit too many. it's not as if we don't have any midfielders before now & there's still a matter of Pereira & the other academy lads whom I'm sure Jose would have been told to include in his plans when necessary.

Anyway he said we are in for 4 players, he's signed 3 already except the free transfer doesn't count.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:13pm On Jul 05, 2016
GBR1:

Yes, yes. Thanks. This is it, exactly. grin

Mourinho was spot on. Rooney can only pass well when he's not being pressed. Even at those times, it's inconsistent with other basic things like first touch which Rooney never mastered completely even as a professional footballer. He can never be a good midfielder.

At best Mourinho would use him as a 10 or 9. It's not looking good for Rooney.

This is not what Mourinho means. He meant passes are easier in deeper positions.

That same place Rooney made great/sexy passes in Wembley and our last league games is where many have failed to complete simple Square passes in previous games.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 4:34pm On Jul 05, 2016
elampiro:


This is not what Mourinho means. He meant passes are easier in deeper positions.


.....and that's the only reason "You can tell me (Mourihno) his (Rooney) pass is amazing".

In a nutshell, Rooney passes well in deeper positions (under less pressure) but is a clueless plonker when crowded out!

You don't have to debate this...

Mourihno's statement is Crystal clear : he isn't gonna be deceived with Rooney's diagonal passes to Valencia - Rooney is shyte!! grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:47pm On Jul 05, 2016
Dadehmola:


.....and that's the only reason "You can tell me (Mourihno) his (Rooney) pass is amazing".

In a nutshell, Rooney passes well in deeper positions (under less pressure) but is a clueless plonker when crowded out!

You don't have to debate this...

Mourihno's statement is Crystal clear : he isn't gonna be deceived with Rooney's diagonal passes to Valencia - Rooney is shyte!! grin grin

You no know book.

Mourinho is even holding Rooney higher than what you guys think. Playing in deeper position means you are finished as an attacking player. Mourinho is saying Rooney can still play in the attack.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 4:48pm On Jul 05, 2016
elampiro:


This is not what Mourinho means. He meant passes are easier in deeper positions.

That same place Rooney made great/sexy passes in Wembley and our last league games is where many have failed to complete simple Square passes in previous games.

Elampiro, that statement was as clear as the gap between Buhari's front teeth.

No need for any twisting and turning on this one.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:50pm On Jul 05, 2016
Nihilist:


Elampiro, that statement was as clear as the gap between Buhari's front teeth.

No need for any twisting and turning on this one.

Read it again


WHERE WILL ROONEY PLAY?
“There are many jobs and the one that is more difficult to find is the guy that puts the ball in the net. Players change during the years, their qualities and characteristics. It is normal that a player of his age changes, but something that will never change is the natural appetite to put the ball in the net. Maybe he is not a striker anymore, or a nine, but he will never be a six playing 50 metres from the goal. He will be a nine, a 10, a nine and a half, but not a six or eight."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 4:50pm On Jul 05, 2016
elampiro:


[s]You no know book.

Mourinho is even holding Rooney higher than what you guys think. Playing in deeper position means you are finished as an attacking player. Mourinho is saying Rooney can still play in the attack. [/s]

Rooney isn't intelligent enough to pass the ball accurately in crowded areas - Jose Mourihno (2016)
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:52pm On Jul 05, 2016
Dadehmola:


Rooney isn't intelligent enough to pass the ball accurately in crowded areas - Jose Mourihno (2016)

Yet Mourinho wants to play him in number 10 which is most crowded?

You no know book.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 4:55pm On Jul 05, 2016
Welcome back sinizia. Last year raumdeuter's boatank was mocked by y'all for falling under messi's boots, this year to avoid repetition, he is flying all over the place. Grand improvement. I hope you saw it. cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:57pm On Jul 05, 2016

The full interview is on United official website below. Jose was asked where will Rooney play. He said he will not play him in deeper roles where passes are easy, and the game is easy. But once a scorer is a scorer with natural appetite for goal. Rooney might not fit for a striker anymore, but he can play 10 or even strike. This is my simple understanding.

Number 10 is more difficult to play than number 8.


www.manutd.com/en/MatchTrackerSeasons/2015-16/United-Today-Live-Blog/2015-16/July-2016/Jose-Mourinho-unveiling-blog.aspx?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd



Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 5:00pm On Jul 05, 2016
elampiro:


Read it again


WHERE WILL ROONEY PLAY?
“There are many jobs and the one that is more difficult to find is the guy that puts the ball in the net. Players change during the years, their qualities and characteristics. It is normal that a player of his age changes, but something that will never change is the natural appetite to put the ball in the net. Maybe he is not a striker anymore, or a nine, but he will never be a six playing 50 metres from the goal. He will be a nine, a 10, a nine and a half, but not a six or eight."

I think that was a massive hint....

A striker that is "maybe not a striker anymore". A player that is implied to be unable to pass under pressure in deeper positions.

I think even Stevie Wonder can see this one.

It's not enough to have appetite. I have the appetites to bangg two girls 5 times a day for a whole year...doesn't mean I wont die if I tried it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by r231(m): 5:02pm On Jul 05, 2016
Nihilist:


I think that was a massive hint....

A striker that is "maybe not a striker anymore". A player that is implied to be unable to pass under pressure in deeper positions.

I think even Stevie Wonder can see this one.

It's not enough to have appetite. I have the appetites to bangg two girls 5 times a day for a whole year...doesn't mean I wont die if I tried it.


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with viagra all things are possible grin grin

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