purplekayc:
I would compare wats happenin directly with Liverpool in 1990. In December 1990, with all the success they had had in the previous 30 years no one would have dared believe that it would be 23 years later and they haven't got a title. This might be the end, it might not be, but no club has a right to win things, and Man U are no different.

coogar:

winning is our birthright, bro!
firstly, liverpool weren't as big as we are now in the late 80s. united's value is in the billions - 700 million fans worldwide, etc. why would they allow a brainless manager to cripple the club because of scottish solidarity?

Said Robin van Persie on his understanding with Wayne Rooney: "If you look around you have loads of main strikers, target men, 'foxes in the boxes', and you have No 10s, who are dropping in more and it's very obvious. With us it's not obvious, we can both do that job. We are both nine-and-a-halves."

GustavoFring:

Nine and three quarters....

adebayo201: speculations all around.... Manchester united eyes strootman, Roberts, dembele, sneijer, etc! just for midfield! When would they eye coogar n elampiro as back room staff!

StarBoard:
Two-fighting in the dug-out.

One reason to laugh in a while

adebayo201: speculations all around.... Manchester united eyes strootman, Roberts, dembele, sneijer, etc! just for midfield! When would they eye coogar n elampiro as back room staff!

coogar:

i can bet all of them came against leverkusen.



it doesn't matter one jot.....he's a flat track bully. packing 5 assists out of 6 against one hapless team in germany & anonymous against a determined everton side.



compare rooney's performance to the other forwards drawing £250k per week from their club's coffers - ronaldo, messi, ibrahimovic then we can have a debate.

if you don't realise rooney's performance is disproportionate to his wages at this stage then there's no point debating even further.

the only question you should ask yourself - is rooney doing enough for the amount of money he gets?

afrodoc:

Is Rooney the only person getting paid? Why are you fixated on his 250k? Maybe you should cast your salary screening net a bit wider.

Have you compared how much Ashley Young and Nani get compared to Adam Llallana? Or how much Cleverley and Anderson get paid compared to Ross Barkley?
Have you compared what Moyes is getting paid compared to Pochettino or Martinez?

Rooney leads the team in most of the attacking stats that really matter and in overall player rating.

He is 4th in the EPL in goals scored, 3rd in assists and 7th in overall player rating ( the only Man Utd player in the top 20) meaning only 6 players in the whole league have had better seasons so far.

So how can it be that of all the players in the team it is the only player that is at the top of most of the performance indices that you blame.
What about the other millionaires collecting 70k,80k per week and stinking up the place like skunks?

afrodoc:

Is Rooney the only person getting paid? Why are you fixated on his 250k? Maybe you should cast your salary screening net a bit wider.

Have you compared how much Ashley Young and Nani get compared to Adam Llallana? Or how much Cleverley and Anderson get paid compared to Ross Barkley?
Have you compared what Moyes is getting paid compared to Pochettino or Martinez?

Rooney leads the team in most of the attacking stats that really matter and in overall player rating.

He is 4th in the EPL in goals scored, 3rd in assists and 7th in overall player rating ( the only Man Utd player in the top 20) meaning only 6 players in the whole league have had better seasons so far.

So how can it be that of all the players in the team it is the only player that is at the top of most of the performance indices that you blame.
What about the other millionaires collecting 70k,80k per week and stinking up the place like skunks?

afrodoc:
Is Rooney the only person getting paid? Why are you fixated on his 250k? Maybe you should cast your salary screening net a bit wider.

Have you compared how much Ashley Young and Nani get compared to Adam Llallana? Or how much Cleverley and Anderson get paid compared to Ross Barkley? Have you compared what Moyes is getting paid compared to Pochettino or Martinez?

Rooney leads the team in most of the attacking stats that really matter and in overall player rating.

He is 4th in the EPL in goals scored, 3rd in assists and 7th in overall player rating ( the only Man Utd player in the top 20) meaning only 6 players in the whole league have had better seasons so far.

So how can it be that of all the players in the team it is the only player that is at the top of most of the performance indices that you blame?

What about the other millionaires collecting 70k,80k per week and stinking up the place like skunks?

Presbulg: Haha

coogar:

because his salary is dredging up out resources & he cannot lead the team to glory like his peers in the same wage bracket. messi/ronaldo score more than 60-70% of their team's total goals - how is rooney faring?



nani/young? players who have been top assist makers in this league for several seasons. they were both injured last season so we didn't get the best of them. this season, they are playing under the most visionless, most disillusioned & the most brainless manager planet earth has produced.



you still don't get the point or you are doing your best to run away from the facts. rooney by default is the 2nd best player in the squad. in the absence of RVP, he becomes the best by default but that is not the crucial issue - the issue is should suarez/aguero/ramsey be outperforming a fit rooney in the league? when RVP was fit, he had every defender in this country in his back pocket - 2 back to back golden boots is the testimony to robin's mercurial ability.

has rooney done in the same? no!!!



only 6 players? are these players earning more than rooney or less? shouldn't that be a disgrace to rooney? shouldn't rooney ask for a pay-cut till he can perform to RVP's level last season?



because in the absence of his general, rooney has failed to take games by the scruff of the neck. go back to last season when rooney was unfit & missed games, RVP stood tall - he took out everything standing in his way & we won the league by 11 points with the same midfield you are condemning here. did RVP win the golden boot with a midfield of llana, ross barkley & yaya toure? no!!! he won it with the midfield of the anderson/cleverley, wingers like nani/young/welbeck.



their level is the same as last season's & it's rooney's inefficiency upfront that is making those midfielders look bad. because the media dare not blame rooney else he plants a bomb @ the emirates, lesser mortals like anderson, cleverley, kagawa, young & nani automatically become the scapegoats!!!

JayKayMaybachz: Coogar i take god name beg u free rooney...he is not our problem rather mumu moyes.....i get ur point buh nonetheless he is not our only player here

kay_pumpin: This forum is the only Manchester United's fandom where Rooney is castigated.Talk about untainted vindictiveness.

Truth is,the whole team is pants now and Rooney's so called gragra is the only bright spot for now.

JayKayMaybachz: Who posted dis shyte here...........if i was the mod i will fuvcking ban you like 20years

montelik: Who does Anderson have to kill to get a start?

dayokanu:

How many league goals has Inista scored in his career?

Ozil has 32 league goals in 5 season In that same time Iniesta has 15 league goals

So tell us something new

n0m0705:
RVP had zero shot on target. RVP zero shot off target.
Chicharito managed only 11 touches in the first half.
Manchester United were the only Premier League side to make fewer than 100 passes in the attacking third this weekend.
All these horrible stats in just one match? Don't you think that is an indictment on the suppossed playmaker? I am not taking anything away from rvp, I am just trying to point out your bias criticism of Rooney.
Besides I'll like you to name 3 matches in which rooney had 63% pass completion.

superstar1: Grabbing my pop corn and baileys.

I will take any result that comes our way.

coogar:
to the nakëd eye, this is very correct.......but there's a logical argument that actually proves rooney himself is the reason we are not ticking. couldn't this just be the ruud syndrome?

many thought united were crazy to let van nistelrooy go. ruud scored about 25 goals per season(easily our best player) but the football quality itself was dire. he left & united started beating teams up & down....

the outcome? 3 back to back PL titles plus a CL title to boot!!!

coogar:

can't wait for the match to finish. ITV's doing a documentary after the match: keane/vieira(the best of enemies). that's what i am itching to see.

kay_pumpin:
But we saw the team without Rooney against Newcastle,same dire performance.

Rooney is not the problem of this present team,the problems run deeper.Starting from the gaffer's lack of knowledge of his first eleven and what tactics to employ.

PS:This Mandela tributes give me goose pimples all the time.I never knew how highly held he is till now.