Ravioli:
Our remaining fixtures compared to Chelsea’s. No excuses...

UNITED:

Sheff Utd (H)
Brighton (A)
Bournemouth (H)
Villa (A)
Saints (H)
Palace (A)
West Ham (H)
Leicester (A)

CHELSEA:

City (H)
West Ham (A)
Watford (H)
Palace (A)
Sheff Utd (A)
Norwich (H)
Pool (A)
Wolves (H)

handelex:
My guy football and boxing shouldn't be compared here, as a boxer you are a one man squad and what you said is only applicable when one is sure he's facing someone with less firepower,one who's punch carries no weight and damage, but you check am nau, United carry enough weight and power oo......also in football it's eleven people playing together where a mistake by one or two persons can jeopardize the whole team's effort and tactics/plans. Our match against Spurs, they didn't decide to take any thousand punches by allowing us those chances, we forced them open and have our selves to blame as we failed to finish them off. It was not on them, it was on us.

raumdeuter:


You can also get the desired results by luck which is not your own making

If an opponent is getting more clear cut chances, facing your keeper and missing it that is not tactics, thats luck

Was it part of Mourinho tactics for Rashford to miscontrol the ball, to shoot at keeper, for Martial to shoot at keeper etc.

Anything that is making opponent to face your keeper 1vs1 multiple times is not tactics

elampiro:


It is tactics. As long as the score is favourable, the pattern will remain. But if the opponent score you and gain advantage, you push for a goal like Chelsea tactics of 2012 UCL fixtur3s vs Barca

Look at the stats below. Do you know that the team with the woeful stats won?

Chelsea 1 vs Barca 0
Barca 2 vs Chelsea 2

raumdeuter:

People get lucky, Okomu Oil can beat Barcelona if they are lucky
Scores can be favourable due to luck
In the game above Messi lost a penalty in the game or was it part of tactics for Messi to lose a penalty?
Which coach will plan tactics for opponent to be having 1 vs 1 chances with his keeper and plan for them to be missing it even plan for them to lose penalty as part of tactics

elampiro:


It is tactics. As long as the score is favourable, the pattern will remain. But if the opponent score you and gain advantage, you push for a goal like Chelsea tactics of 2012 UCL fixtur3s vs Barca

Look at the stats below. Do you know that the team with the woeful stats won?

Chelsea 1 vs Barca 0
Barca 2 vs Chelsea 2

elampiro:
When Inter beat Barca in 2010, Barca had 78% possession. L Barca even scored first. But Inter responded and won 3-1. This tells you that even if a team parked a bus, they will change tactics in the course of the match if they are losing the tie.

In the return leg, Barca still had 78% possession but could not win against 10 men.

Tactics

elampiro:


That is tactics when you meat a superior team. The game plan would have charged if Barca gained advantage. But their punches were useless

raumdeuter:


When you meet a superior team you plan is to reduce the number of chances and 1vs1 they get. If your tactics does not reduce their chances then that is a failed tactic.

If your tactics is to depend on Messi missing penalties, Rashford and Martial missing 1 vs 1 , that is a useless tactic

Leyqute:


How many times does this happen though? How many times does a team with 2 shots on target (from a 1v1 situation) in a match win a team with 15 shots on target (1 on 1 as well) ?

If you ask 5 random people in Ikeja how much they earn monthly and they say 750k, it doesn’t mean the average person at Ikeja earns 750k per month.

For every game where a team who created less chances wins, there are double or even triple of them where the team with more chances won.

Stop cherry-picking your sample.

gameboy727:
This Elampiro should just drop this tactics bullshit abeg (don't mean to be rude in any way though). Teams get lucky sometimes. Simple.

raumdeuter:


When you meet a superior team you plan is to reduce the number of chances and 1vs1 they get. If your tactics does not reduce their chances then that is a failed tactic.

If your tactics is to depend on Messi missing penalties, Rashford and Martial missing 1 vs 1 , that is a useless tactic

raumdeuter:


We are talking about shots on target, 1 vs 1 chances you are talking about possesion.
Does possesion equals to goals?
If you have 90% possesion and 2 shots on target but the team with 10% possesion have 9 shots on target. Its shots on target that make goals not possesion

Tactics is to increase your own chances and reduce your opponents chances

Any tactics that is making your opponent have shots on target regularly, having high percentage chances regularly is no tactic

e.g Arsenal played City last week City had 12 shots and Arsenal had 0. If Arsenal had scored from an own goal and won the game, that is not tactics but luck

Ravioli:


Who understands this??

elampiro:


One vs one that was not clear. There will always be chances in a game. What we need is result. So if Messi did not score a penalty, did he not have 180 minutes to score.

Even if he scored that penalty, they still lost

elampiro:


The question is in two legged tie, the tactics worked. 180 minutes of football for Chelsea and Inter.

If not for Dier, Spurs would have won.

gameboy727:
This Elampiro should just drop this tactics bullshit abeg (don't mean to be rude in any way though). Teams get lucky sometimes. Simple.

elampiro:


It happened in Tottenham vs Man United

GloryIsaac:
City’s bench can compete for the EPL as a new team..

GloryIsaac:
City’s bench can compete for the EPL as a new team..

Leyqute:


The first team is not competing mahn. How will the bench compete?

raumdeuter:


We are talking about shots on target, 1 vs 1 chances you are talking about possesion.
Does possesion equals to goals?
If you have 90% possesion and 2 shots on target but the team with 10% possesion have 9 shots on target. Its shots on target that make goals not possesion

Tactics is to increase your own chances and reduce your opponents chances

Any tactics that is making your opponent have shots on target regularly, having high percentage chances regularly is no tactic

e.g Arsenal played City last week City had 12 shots and Arsenal had 0. If Arsenal had scored from an own goal and won the game, that is not tactics but luck