El Guapo: Cooger aren't u takin' ya Hydrocele ailment to the Paraolympic?

Jxt a Question from a concerned pal

coogar:

thanks for letting us know you still wear your disabled badge with a pride!
mentally-handicapped peasant!

There he goes -- Jxt like a Randy Dog

StarBoard: @dayokanu,
Nani is over-rated.Much like Robben but on a lesser scale.Robben does stuff well till he gets to finals, at least.
Nani was at the Euros, nothing spectacular except involving himself in a controversy in the penalty-shoot out loss.He didn't make the team of the tournament.So why is everyone on his d/ick?
Aside from a few times when he's really turned it on, Nani hasn't done it consistently enough over the period he's been at United for me to believe he's actually the player we think he is.That has been my point.
You talk about Nani being feared.Really? I don't see it.
@A-40,
That same 2010/11 when we played Chelsea in the champions League,who did Fergie bench?Nani was dropped in favour of a returning Valencia for both legs, and United won home and away. I'm guessing that should say something about his value.

debosky:

So Fergie dropping Rooney for RVP last week says something about the value of Rooney?

RVP was rubbish at the Euros, did that stop Utd paying 250k for him?

Your weak logic doesn't stand up to scrutiny. The fact is that coaches pick players with the best form/attributes at a particular time, and it doesn't mean the others were rubbish. A player's performance over the course of the season is the best reflection - 10 goals and 14 assists is a high level of performance in any season in the EPL no matter how you cut it.

Nani is a maverick - by nature that makes him inconsistent, just like Robben. Your issue is more to do with the type of player Nani is than his performances. If you're looking for Valencia-type performances you're wasting your time because they are different types of players.

Hugoboi:

I'm sorry to say this but I think this is more of a personal thing against Nani, than an objective and well rounded analysis from a footy fan. If both Nani and Robben are both over rated to you, then I'm guessing the soccer u watch is different from the one the rest of us do. StarBoard, please tell me two wingers in 2012 soccer who are 'totally" ahead of the aforementioned. Till u can give me a satisfactory answer, I rest my case...

Hugoboi:

Thumbs up mate! End of discussion!

RuuDie: The likes of Nani, Young, Anderson, Welbeck etc are the reason why the likes of Giggs, Scholes are still playing today. No one has 100%, cast-iron faith in 'em!

Anyways, the jury is out - especially on Nani and Anderson, who are not Brits - perform below expectations and they will definitely go the way of Berbatov. . . no two ways about it!

StarBoard:

Please face your front.
Nobody was talking to you and if you don't have anything to say without echoing, just stick your nose up your a$$.

Hugoboi: Meanwhile, rumours abound that United have made a late bid of €25 mil in an attempt to hijack Joao Moutinho from Tottenham. I hope it isn't just a rumor anyway.

StarBoard:
But coogar will say they are the future of the club and dig up stats that don't amount to nothing.
Instead of facing up to the under-performing nature of the quartet, they are creating excuses for their sub-par performances.

Hugoboi:

Mr StarBoard, This is a soccer thread and not ur favourite beer parlour. I'm not here to trade insults with you since u apparently can't embark on an intellectual discourse without throwing verbal bottles. As for echoing, what better way to tell u to stop arguing meaninglessly. Even Stevie Wonder can see ur points make no football sense. I'm not gonna insult you so I suggest u grow some cojones and talk to me in decent language when next u have something to say to me.

StarBoard: And for the last time, nobody cares too much about wingers these days.
Even you should know that by now.
And my point was about the mostly inept play of the above listed players that is responsible for OAPs still abounding and flourishing at United

chic2pimp: Messi a winger?.......

coogar:

for the last time, mention another pair of wingers better than ashley young and luiz nani? it can't be that difficult - after all, the two of them are crappy! i wonder what the fans of spurs, liverpool, arsenal, chelsea and man city have to say when they put up with lennon, downing, maxi rodriguez, malouda, kalou, adam johnson, walcott, gervinho, arshavin and james milner

RuuDie:

You've already mentioned some of the names yourself!

RuuDie:

You've already mentioned some of the names yourself!

coogar:
how did he start? as a defender?

Hugoboi:

This is an absolute joke right?

coogar:

milner, downing and walcott are better than nani? ruudie, let me have what you are smoking!

RuuDie:
Yes, they are. . . sedately said!

coogar:

milner, downing and walcott are better than nani? ruudie, let me have what you are smoking!

montelik: Windows closes and the squad is set. I was looking forward to this years window as I felt a number of quality players who could satisfy areas of need for us would be available. While I believe we made 2 excellent signings (particularly Kagawa) in terms of quality and 1 unknown prospect with upside. I can't hide the fact I am incredibly disappointed. This was unlike the past 2 summer windows as many players in positions we could have strengthened were available. Once again we didn't do much, but this time there were no excuses. There was value available, there was quality available and there were many teams and players willing to do business. Yet we continue to hope in what we got despite the evidence that it might be a futile exercise.

Anyway as the present squad is constituted, I don't have much expectations this season. We could regain the EPL, but my gut says we don't. City are a more matured side now, armed with the experience of winning from behind last season. We can't expect costly mess ups like last season. I believe we will certainly do much better in Europe probably reach the semis. Why? Cos after last year SAF will be determined to banish last season disappointment. Also no doubt the Glazers have pointed out to Gill and SAF what our early elimination cost the club with our tight rope financial situation. The cups are always unpredictable, but might be the year if we get to a semi-final.

If things go our way e.g we can field a consistent back 5 for at least 3/4 of the season, we can keep most of our squad fit enough to actually be able to realize what our strongest 11 should be and not guess, improvement in performance from certain marginal players (e.g Ando, Evra), over-paid players (e.g Rooney) and other younger players e.g (DDG, Jones, Welbeck, Tom C), new signings have solid debut seasons. Then we could be the ones winning the EPL and possibly europe.

But my gut says the question marks are too many to believe such a scenario is likely to develop. In short not expecting much. My expectations are a strong challenge for the league (2nd) even if we come up short, a marked improvement in Europe (quarters) and avoiding a trophy-less season (FA cup would do nicely).

chamotex: Young out for 2 weeks - I'm starting to believe that this injury situation is no longer a coincidence, something is wrong somewhere.

coogar:

you are 12 months late!

chamotex:

Not late . . . just didn't want to believe it.
Fergie should look into the training regime - hope its not too rigorous.