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Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by dekung(m): 10:52pm On Mar 02, 2012
Quote from FXKing2012
Aliens - if they exist - are made up of matter just
like every other physical object in the universe, so
must have been detected through radio-active
waves if they were really out there. We've been
able to detect light as far away as 14.5billion
years which is considered to be the edge of the
universe by space scientists, yet not even a sign
of alien existence has been found.
 
You said radio-active waves not radio waves or is the above post not yours again?
Pls are you ready to take mazaje's challenge or not? I dont understand all this beating about the bush. He doesnt need schooling he needs you to accept the challenge. Stop being evasive!
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by mazaje(m): 10:54pm On Mar 02, 2012
FXKing2012:

You blow my mind! Why do u keep holding on so tight to a theory that has not, can not and will never be tested/proven? Or is it becos they are white scientists? These are mere assumptions, dont u get it?
It's just like saying having more oxygen in the atmosphere will increase average lifespan. C'mmon man, drop it!
What has been tested and proven is that Jupiter protects us and the planets that are behind Jupiter get pounded by asteroids every now and then.

Tested and proven by who?. . .The same study you alluded to are also mere assumptions, no?. . . .
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by dekung(m): 11:00pm On Mar 02, 2012
Mazaje, you have let this guy off the hook. He will wriggle his way out of your challenge. Stay on point. Have you noticed he did not even address it because he knows this would be the last straw. This is why I did not want to take up his initial challenge, the guy is shifty and tries hard to wriggle his way out of tight corners like James Ibori
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by mazaje(m): 11:03pm On Mar 02, 2012
dekung:

Mazaje, you have let this guy off the hook. He will wriggle his way out of your challenge. Stay on point. Have you noticed he did not even address it because he knows this would be the last straw. This is why I did not want to take up his initial challenge, the guy is shifty and tries hard to wriggle his way out of tight corners like James Ibori

Sure, I just want to play along with him, many misinformation from him were left unchallenged . . . .Now its time for him to come and take the challenge. . .
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by dekung(m): 11:42pm On Mar 02, 2012
The guy has gone off the radar!
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by Jenwitemi(m): 8:39am On Mar 03, 2012
Well, i don't have to see them aliens either to know they exist because others have made contacts or seen them throughout human history and they still do today. So I guess we are both in the same boat, so you might as well quit asking me why i believe in their existence wink. Both of us have to rely on the testimonies of others, i guess.
Hey, i hear that Jehovah came from Jupiter to bless we humans with im wahala here on earth. Theories boku. wink
FXKing2012:

I've never seen Him but we have people who have and still hear from Him, we have people who commune with Him, I pray to Him and He answers me. I dont need to see Him dear.
But as for aliens, they've never been seen despite the fact that they are made up of matter (if they actually exist), nobody has ever heard from an alien and no one communes wt an alien.
Now my dear, pls where are the similarities?
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by mazaje(m): 10:02am On Mar 03, 2012
FXKing2012:

I've never seen Him but we have people who have and still hear from Him, we have people who commune with Him, I pray to Him and He answers me. I dont need to see Him dear.
But as for aliens, they've never been seen despite the fact that they are made up of matter (if they actually exist), nobody has ever heard from an alien and no one communes wt an alien.
Now my dear, pls where are the similarities?

Here is a video of a man that claims he was abducted by aliens

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWah_PX7WRE[/flash]

So people have seen aliens. . . .The fact is their is no difference between your God and aliens they both the only evidence for them begins and ends stories and stories alone. . .
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by dekung(m): 10:26am On Mar 03, 2012
You can be sure FX will come back and start attacking these new posts while cleverly avoiding the challenge. The guy is a religious crook. loooooool!
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by mrmayor(m): 10:45am On Mar 03, 2012
FXKing2012:

You are really a comedian.[color=#990000][b]So you think Christians count the age of the earth based on Adam?Did God create Adam and the world the same time? The book of Genesis talks about how God created the world and man day after day, but I hope u dont take the day stated in Genesis as a 24hr period. Well, unfortunately, I think you do.
A thousand years is like one day to God according to the Bible, so pls jettison the idea that the day in Genesis was talking about a 24hr period.
How do u expect me to know the age of the earth? Was I here when God created it?


Answers to the high light in red

[size=13pt]GOD'S PROPHETIC TIMETABLE
("The 7,000 Year Plan of God"wink
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  [b]   ===>   From Adam to Yeshua/Jesus was a total of 4,000 years. Below is the Biblical chronology of this:
    *****************************************************************
    *  Adam to Seth  ,     130 yrs    (Genesis  5:3)     *
    *  Seth to Enos  ,     105 yrs    (Genesis  5:6)     *
    *  Enos to Cainan ,      90 yrs    (Genesis  5:9)     *
    *  Cainan to Mahalaleel ,      70 yrs    (Genesis  5:12)    *
    *  Mahalaleel to Jared ,      65 yrs    (Genesis  5:15)    *
    *  Jared to Enoch ,     162 yrs    (Genesis  5:18)    *
    *  Enoch to Methuselah ,      65 yrs    (Genesis  5:21)    *
    *  Methuselah to Lamech ,     187 yrs    (Genesis  5:25)    *
    *  Lamech to Noah ,     182 yrs    (Genesis  5:28-29) *
    *  Noah to the Flood ,     600 yrs    (Genesis  7:6)     *
    *  Flood to Arphaxad ,       2 yrs    (Genesis 11:10)    *
    *  Arphaxad to Salah ,      35 yrs    (Genesis 11:12)    *
    *  Salah to Eber ,      30 yrs    (Genesis 11:14)    *
    *  Eber to Peleg ,      34 yrs    (Genesis 11:16)    *
    *  Peleg to Reu  ,      30 yrs    (Genesis 11:18)    *
    *  Reu to Serug  ,      32 yrs    (Genesis 11:20)    *
    *  Serug to Nahor ,      30 yrs    (Genesis 11:22)    *
    *  Nahor to Terah ,      29 yrs    (Genesis 11:24)    *
    *  Terah to Abraham ,      70 yrs    (Genesis 11:26)    *
    *                                 -------                       *
    *  Adam to Abraham  ,    1948 yrs  (This same geneology *
    *                                           is in Luke 3:34-38) *
    *****************************************************************

       ***********************************************************
       *  Abraham to Isaac ,    100 yrs  (Genesis 21:5)  *
       *  Isaac to Jacob ,     60 yrs  (Genesis 25:26) *
       *  Jacob to Egypt ,    130 yrs  (Genesis 47:28) *
       *                              ---------                  *
       *  Abraham to Egypt              290 yrs                  *
       ***********************************************************
 
    *****************************************************************
    *  From Egypt to Exodus ,      X yrs                      *
    *                                                               *
    *  ---- Jacob and his family went to Egypt                      *
    *                                                               *
    *       Jacob went to Egypt                (Genesis 46:8,11)    *
    *       Levi went to Egypt  (Jacob's son)  (Genesis 46:8,11)    *
    *       Kohath went to Egypt (Levi's son)  (Genesis 46:8,11)    *
    *                                                               *
    *       Kohath had a son named Amram       (Exodus 6:18)        *
    *       Amram had a son named Moses        (Exodus 6:20)        *
    *                                                               * 
    *  ---- Moses to the Exodus ,  80 yrs   (Exodus 7:7,         *
    *                                           Acts 7:21-23, 29-30)*
    *                                                               *
    *  From Egypt to Exodus:  X = (Kohath to Amram to Moses + 80)   *
    *****************************************************************

    *****************************************************************
    *  In Wilderness ,  40 yrs (Numbers 32:13,        *
    *                                         Deuteronomy 2:7, 29:5 *
    *  Wilderness to death Joshua ,  30 yrs (Joshua 14:7,10, 24:29)*
    *                                --------                       *
    *  Exodus to death Joshua         70 yrs                        *
    *****************************************************************

    *****************************************************************
    *                   PERIOD OF THE JUDGES                        *
    *                                                               *
    * Under King Cushanrishathaim ,    8 yrs  (Judges 3:cool          *
    * Under Othniel ,   40 yrs  (Judges 3:10-11)      *              * Under King Eglon ,   18 yrs  (Judges 3:14)         *
    * Under Ehud ,   80 yrs  (Judges 3:15,30)      *              * Under King Jabid ,   20 yrs  (Judges 4:1-3)        *              * Under Deborah ,   40 yrs  (Judges 4:4, 5:31)    *              * Under Midianites ,    7 yrs  (Judges 6:1)          *              * Under Gideon ,   40 yrs  (Judges 6:7, 8:22,28) *              * Under Abimelech ,    3 yrs  (Judges 8:32-35, 9:22)*              * Under Tola ,   23 yrs  (Judges 10:1-2)       *              * Under Jair ,   22 yrs  (Judges 10:3)         *
    * Under Ammonites ,   18 yrs  (Judges 10:5-cool       *
    * Under Jephthah ,    6 yrs  (Judges 12:7)         *
    * Under Ibzan ,    7 yrs  (Judges 12:8-9)       *
    * Under Elon ,   10 yrs  (Judges 12:11)        *
    * Under Abdon ,    8 yrs  (Judges 12:13-14)     *
    * Under Philistines ,   40 yrs  (Judges 13:1)         *
    * Under Samson ,   20 yrs  (Judges 13:24, 15:20, *
    *                                                 16:30-31)     *
    * Under Eli/Samuel ,   40 yrs  (I Samuel 4:15,18,    *
    *                                          7:15, 8:1,4-7,19-22, *
    *                                          9:1-2)               *
    *                              ---------                        *
    * Judges to Samuel               450 yrs  (Acts 13:20)          *
    *                                                               *
    *****************************************************************



    *****************************************************************
    *                   THE KINGS OF JUDAH                          *
    *                                                               *
    * Under King Saul ,   40 yrs  (Acts 13:21)          *
    * Under King David ,   40 yrs  (I Chron 29:26-27)    * 
    * Under King Solomon ,   40 yrs  (I Kings 11:42-43)    *
    * Under King Rehoboam ,   17 yrs  (I Kings 14:21)       *
    * Under King Abijam ,    3 yrs  (I Kings 14:31,15:1-2)*
    * Under King Asa ,   41 yrs  (I Kings 15:8-10)     *
    * Under King Jehoshaphat ,   25 yrs  (I Kings 22:41-42,50) *
    * Under King Jehoram ,    8 yrs  (II Chron 21:5)       *
    * Under King Ahaziah ,    1 yr   (II Chron. 22:1-2)    *
    * Under Queen Athaliah ,    6 yrs  (II Chron. 22:10-12)  *
    * Under King Joash ,   40 yrs  (II Chron. 23:13,15,  *
    *                                                    24:1)      *
    * Under King Amaziah ,   29 yrs  (II Chron. 25:1)      *
    * Under Uzziah ,   52 yrs  (II Chron. 26:3)      *
    * Under Jotham ,   16 yrs  (II Chron. 27:1)      *
    * Under Ahaz ,   16 yrs  (II Chron. 28:1)      *
    * Under Hezekiah ,   29 yrs  (II Chron. 29:1)      *
    * Under Manasseh ,   55 yrs  (II Chron. 33:1)      *
    * Under Amon ,    2 yrs  (II Chron. 33:20-21)  *
    * Under King Josiah ,   31 yrs  (II Chron. 34:1)      *
    * Under King Jehoahaz ,    3 mon  (II Chron. 36:1-2)    *
    * Under King Jehoiakim ,   11 yrs  (II Chron. 36:3-7)    *
    * Under King Jehoiachin ,    3 mon  (II Chron. 36:9)      *
    * Under King Zedekiah ,   11 yrs  (II Chron. 36:11-21)  *
    *                               ---------                       *
    *             KINGS OF JUDAH     513 yrs                        *
    *                                                               *
    *****************************************************************

    *****************************************************************
    *                                                               *
    *            SUMMARY OF THE TIME FROM ADAM TO JESUS             *
    *                                                               *
    *  Adam to Abraham ,     1948 yrs               *
    *  Abraham to Egypt ,      290 yrs               *
    *                                                               *
    *  From Egypt to Moses: (X) Let X = 63     63 yrs               *
    *                                                               *
    *       X = (Kohath to Amram to Moses)                          *
    *                                                               *
    *  Moses to the Exodus ,       80 yrs               *
    *  Exodus to death Joshua ,       70 yrs               *
    *  Judges to Samuel ,      450 yrs (Acts 13:20)  *
    *  Kings of Judah ,      513 yrs               *
    *  Babylonian Captivity ,      586 B.C.E.            *
    *                                    ---------------            *
    *  Adam to Jesus                          4000 yrs              *
    *                                                               
[/b]

http://www.hebroots.com/lul7_8.html

I didn't write that, Christians  more knowledgeable than you did. I think you should read your bible more.

@ high light in green

If you were not there, how do you know that Adam and Eve rebelled against God? Original Sin?
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by manmustwac(m): 10:56am On Mar 03, 2012
@FXKing201
Longtime ago one night when i slept i woke up in the morning and saw this strong bright light piercing through my window. next thing my body began to evaporate and i was in a spaceship shocked shocked shocked, TRUST ME MAN! I couldn't believe it. I had been abducted by aliens. I felt like  cry cry cry but realized i had to be strong. They had me in thier interrogation room they told me they were planning to invade planet earth and take over it that thier own planet was to small (due to over population) that they wanted to invade and take over planet earth.

Well listen to cut a long story short i managed to escape from the spaceship and find my way back home to New Cross in South East London where i live. But the thing that really  angry angry angry me was that for the first time in 10 years i actually went to visit my pastor to narrate my story. And you know what? He said i was delusion. That i had not been abducted by aliens that them talking to me was me hearing voices in my head that i was paranoid.

Can you imagine that. angry angry angry. A whole Pastor who believes in talking donkeys, magic snakes, that two people populated the entire planet dose not even believe my true story about me being abducted by aliens.

I vex leave the the church. BLOODY HYPOCRITE!!! angry angry angry
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by mazaje(m): 11:05am On Mar 03, 2012
^^

If you had told him you were abducted by angels and taken to heaven, he will not only believe yo but also encourage you to write a book about your experience. . . .
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by dekung(m): 11:28am On Mar 03, 2012
So you
think Christians count the age of the earth based on
Adam? Did God create Adam and the world the same
time? The book of Genesis talks about how God
created the world and man day after day, but I hope
u dont take the day stated in Genesis as a 24hr
period. Well, unfortunately, I think you do.
A thousand years is like one day to God according to
the Bible, so pls jettison the idea that the day in
Genesis was talking about a 24hr period.
Shifty as usual. I have read some christian literature that said the day in Genesis should be taken litrally now you have come to give another meaning. OK this should be taken as an alegory?
In Gen 1:3-end which describes the creation story on several instance  said 'And it was evening and morning' in fact verse 13 begins with this phrase. Does it take 1000 years for there to be evening and morning? Several literatures hold on to the normal 24hr creation days but even if we pause and accept your 1000yr creation day, then Adam arrived 5000yr after God started creation, it is still way out of sync with what we currently know. But wait, we still have not addressed the challenge. How farn are you afraid your God might not respond if you take Mazaje's challenge?
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by dekung(m): 12:54pm On Mar 03, 2012
I forsaw this. The guy wanted attention and was also looking for an oppotunity to vent scraps of information that he ganered while on Nairaland. He really has nothing to say. He talked about spirits and all other banshees. The hilarious part of the whole episode the way he danced arround this claim as if he was once a conscious spirit. The guy makes me laugh, he just came here to doisplay his ignorance and the impotence of his God(s)
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by dekung(m): 1:58pm On Mar 03, 2012
quote from FXKing2012
Are u aware
that a virus can not be seen but the effects can be
seen thus the reason why people believe in the
existence of virus.
A spirit can not be seen but we can see the effects
thus the reason to believe.
Does this make sense at all. So people just believe virus exist and also belive they cause diseases. How dumb and uninformed. Viruses are quite small agreed but then they can be seen through the use of electron microscope. Elementary biology should teach you this.
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by mkmyers45(m): 2:01pm On Mar 03, 2012
dekung:

quote from FXKing2012Does this make sense at all. So people just believe virus exist and also belive they cause diseases. How dumb and uninformed. Viruses are quite small agreed but then they can be seen through the use of electron microscope. Elementary biology should teach you this.

Apparently someone didn't do his biology cheesy cheesy
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by Nobody: 2:14pm On Mar 03, 2012
Chai see as una don scatter my boy FX. i no sure him go fit walk again cry
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by FXKing2012(m): 5:41pm On Mar 03, 2012
mazaje:

The funny thing is that you guys often define your God in such a way that they eliminate your own potential defeaters to the "no evidence" argument. In other words your definition of God is its own worst enemy.

For example:-

Christian: You won't expect to see evidence for God - He's invisible
Atheist : But he's supposed to be omnipotent  as such he can make himself visible since it was written that he once did it in the past. Besides many people claim they still see God.
Christian: Why should he make himself visible just for you? God is spirit and can not make himself visible.
Atheist : Because he's supposed to love me and want a personal relationship with me. Beside it is written in story books that he once addressed all his chosen men through public speech, he can still do that now, no?
Christian: God doesn't work that way. . .

You see its a useless exercise. . .

This is amusing. You dont need to see God to have a personal relationship with Him and He is not begging anybody to serve Him. It's funny when atheists say they wont believe except He makes Himself available, they actually think God is begging to be served.
And God did manifest in the form of man in the Bible and no one can say such does not happen today, only there is no way to know when He does.

mazaje:


We do not presently have the machines and equipment to detect extraterritorial life out there in the universe. . .Stop claiming we do. . .No serious attempt has been made as of now to find alien life out in the universe. . .So your assertion is very false. . .Again if you know about Hubble and its mission you won't be repeating this drivel. . .  

Show me what I have written about the bible that is not true. . . .By the way are you ready to take the test or not?

There u go again talking what u dont know. Have u heard of Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI)? You say no serious attempt has been made to search for aliens yet the U.S. govt set up and funds SETI.
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by FXKing2012(m): 6:16pm On Mar 03, 2012
dekung:

The guy has gone off the radar!

I was away on some other duties but I'm back to address all the misinformations flying around in here.

Jenwitemi:

Well, i don't have to see them aliens either to know they exist because others have made contacts or seen them throughout human history and they still do today. So I guess we are both in the same boat, so you might as well quit asking me why i believe in their existence wink. Both of us have to rely on the testimonies of others, i guess.

Now thatz where u got it wrong, I told u I pray to God and He answers me. I dont rely on the testimonies of others, I have a relationship with Him. Have u ever had any form of communication wt an alien? No! Those u claim to have seen aliens have they ever presented u wt any concrete evidence? No!
In contrast, those who claim to commune with God have evidence to show for it. Now that is the difference.

diluminati:

Chai see as una don scatter my boy FX. i no sure him go fit walk again  cry

You know I love you so much and can not stand u exposing your folly, so I kindly advise u steer clear cos this is way beyond you. You might wanna return to the threads where u use ur usual vulgar language.
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by FXKing2012(m): 6:35pm On Mar 03, 2012
dekung:

You can be sure FX will come back and start attacking these new posts while cleverly avoiding the challenge. The guy is a religious crook. loooooool!

I wonder what challenge u have been shouting about. Pls bring it on, I'm waiting.

mrmayor:

[/b][/color]

Answers to the high light in red

[size=13pt]GOD'S PROPHETIC TIMETABLE
("The 7,000 Year Plan of God"wink
[/size]


  [b]   ===>   From Adam to Yeshua/Jesus was a total of 4,000 years. Below is the Biblical chronology of this:
    *****************************************************************
    *  Adam to Seth  ,     130 yrs    (Genesis  5:3)     *
    *  Seth to Enos  ,     105 yrs    (Genesis  5:6)     *
    *  Enos to Cainan ,      90 yrs    (Genesis  5:9)     *
    *  Cainan to Mahalaleel ,      70 yrs    (Genesis  5:12)    *
    *  Mahalaleel to Jared ,      65 yrs    (Genesis  5:15)    *
    *  Jared to Enoch ,     162 yrs    (Genesis  5:18)    *
    *  Enoch to Methuselah ,      65 yrs    (Genesis  5:21)    *
    *  Methuselah to Lamech ,     187 yrs    (Genesis  5:25)    *
    *  Lamech to Noah ,     182 yrs    (Genesis  5:28-29) *
    *  Noah to the Flood ,     600 yrs    (Genesis  7:6)     *
    *  Flood to Arphaxad ,       2 yrs    (Genesis 11:10)    *
    *  Arphaxad to Salah ,      35 yrs    (Genesis 11:12)    *
    *  Salah to Eber ,      30 yrs    (Genesis 11:14)    *
    *  Eber to Peleg ,      34 yrs    (Genesis 11:16)    *
    *  Peleg to Reu  ,      30 yrs    (Genesis 11:18)    *
    *  Reu to Serug  ,      32 yrs    (Genesis 11:20)    *
    *  Serug to Nahor ,      30 yrs    (Genesis 11:22)    *
    *  Nahor to Terah ,      29 yrs    (Genesis 11:24)    *
    *  Terah to Abraham ,      70 yrs    (Genesis 11:26)    *
    *                                 -------                       *
    *  Adam to Abraham  ,    1948 yrs  (This same geneology *
    *                                           is in Luke 3:34-38) *
    *****************************************************************

       ***********************************************************
       *  Abraham to Isaac ,    100 yrs  (Genesis 21:5)  *
       *  Isaac to Jacob ,     60 yrs  (Genesis 25:26) *
       *  Jacob to Egypt ,    130 yrs  (Genesis 47:28) *
       *                              ---------                  *
       *  Abraham to Egypt              290 yrs                  *
       ***********************************************************
 
    *****************************************************************
    *  From Egypt to Exodus ,      X yrs                      *
    *                                                               *
    *  ---- Jacob and his family went to Egypt                      *
    *                                                               *
    *       Jacob went to Egypt                (Genesis 46:8,11)    *
    *       Levi went to Egypt  (Jacob's son)  (Genesis 46:8,11)    *
    *       Kohath went to Egypt (Levi's son)  (Genesis 46:8,11)    *
    *                                                               *
    *       Kohath had a son named Amram       (Exodus 6:18)        *
    *       Amram had a son named Moses        (Exodus 6:20)        *
    *                                                               * 
    *  ---- Moses to the Exodus ,  80 yrs   (Exodus 7:7,         *
    *                                           Acts 7:21-23, 29-30)*
    *                                                               *
    *  From Egypt to Exodus:  X = (Kohath to Amram to Moses + 80)   *
    *****************************************************************

    *****************************************************************
    *  In Wilderness ,  40 yrs (Numbers 32:13,        *
    *                                         Deuteronomy 2:7, 29:5 *
    *  Wilderness to death Joshua ,  30 yrs (Joshua 14:7,10, 24:29)*
    *                                --------                       *
    *  Exodus to death Joshua         70 yrs                        *
    *****************************************************************

    *****************************************************************
    *                   PERIOD OF THE JUDGES                        *
    *                                                               *
    * Under King Cushanrishathaim ,    8 yrs  (Judges 3:cool          *
    * Under Othniel ,   40 yrs  (Judges 3:10-11)      *              * Under King Eglon ,   18 yrs  (Judges 3:14)         *
    * Under Ehud ,   80 yrs  (Judges 3:15,30)      *              * Under King Jabid ,   20 yrs  (Judges 4:1-3)        *              * Under Deborah ,   40 yrs  (Judges 4:4, 5:31)    *              * Under Midianites ,    7 yrs  (Judges 6:1)          *              * Under Gideon ,   40 yrs  (Judges 6:7, 8:22,28) *              * Under Abimelech ,    3 yrs  (Judges 8:32-35, 9:22)*              * Under Tola ,   23 yrs  (Judges 10:1-2)       *              * Under Jair ,   22 yrs  (Judges 10:3)         *
    * Under Ammonites ,   18 yrs  (Judges 10:5-cool       *
    * Under Jephthah ,    6 yrs  (Judges 12:7)         *
    * Under Ibzan ,    7 yrs  (Judges 12:8-9)       *
    * Under Elon ,   10 yrs  (Judges 12:11)        *
    * Under Abdon ,    8 yrs  (Judges 12:13-14)     *
    * Under Philistines ,   40 yrs  (Judges 13:1)         *
    * Under Samson ,   20 yrs  (Judges 13:24, 15:20, *
    *                                                 16:30-31)     *
    * Under Eli/Samuel ,   40 yrs  (I Samuel 4:15,18,    *
    *                                          7:15, 8:1,4-7,19-22, *
    *                                          9:1-2)               *
    *                              ---------                        *
    * Judges to Samuel               450 yrs  (Acts 13:20)          *
    *                                                               *
    *****************************************************************



    *****************************************************************
    *                   THE KINGS OF JUDAH                          *
    *                                                               *
    * Under King Saul ,   40 yrs  (Acts 13:21)          *
    * Under King David ,   40 yrs  (I Chron 29:26-27)    * 
    * Under King Solomon ,   40 yrs  (I Kings 11:42-43)    *
    * Under King Rehoboam ,   17 yrs  (I Kings 14:21)       *
    * Under King Abijam ,    3 yrs  (I Kings 14:31,15:1-2)*
    * Under King Asa ,   41 yrs  (I Kings 15:8-10)     *
    * Under King Jehoshaphat ,   25 yrs  (I Kings 22:41-42,50) *
    * Under King Jehoram ,    8 yrs  (II Chron 21:5)       *
    * Under King Ahaziah ,    1 yr   (II Chron. 22:1-2)    *
    * Under Queen Athaliah ,    6 yrs  (II Chron. 22:10-12)  *
    * Under King Joash ,   40 yrs  (II Chron. 23:13,15,  *
    *                                                    24:1)      *
    * Under King Amaziah ,   29 yrs  (II Chron. 25:1)      *
    * Under Uzziah ,   52 yrs  (II Chron. 26:3)      *
    * Under Jotham ,   16 yrs  (II Chron. 27:1)      *
    * Under Ahaz ,   16 yrs  (II Chron. 28:1)      *
    * Under Hezekiah ,   29 yrs  (II Chron. 29:1)      *
    * Under Manasseh ,   55 yrs  (II Chron. 33:1)      *
    * Under Amon ,    2 yrs  (II Chron. 33:20-21)  *
    * Under King Josiah ,   31 yrs  (II Chron. 34:1)      *
    * Under King Jehoahaz ,    3 mon  (II Chron. 36:1-2)    *
    * Under King Jehoiakim ,   11 yrs  (II Chron. 36:3-7)    *
    * Under King Jehoiachin ,    3 mon  (II Chron. 36:9)      *
    * Under King Zedekiah ,   11 yrs  (II Chron. 36:11-21)  *
    *                               ---------                       *
    *             KINGS OF JUDAH     513 yrs                        *
    *                                                               *
    *****************************************************************

    *****************************************************************
    *                                                               *
    *            SUMMARY OF THE TIME FROM ADAM TO JESUS             *
    *                                                               *
    *  Adam to Abraham ,     1948 yrs               *
    *  Abraham to Egypt ,      290 yrs               *
    *                                                               *
    *  From Egypt to Moses: (X) Let X = 63     63 yrs               *
    *                                                               *
    *       X = (Kohath to Amram to Moses)                          *
    *                                                               *
    *  Moses to the Exodus ,       80 yrs               *
    *  Exodus to death Joshua ,       70 yrs               *
    *  Judges to Samuel ,      450 yrs (Acts 13:20)  *
    *  Kings of Judah ,      513 yrs               *
    *  Babylonian Captivity ,      586 B.C.E.            *
    *                                    ---------------            *
    *  Adam to Jesus                          4000 yrs              *
    *                                                               
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http://www.hebroots.com/lul7_8.html

I didn't write that, Christians  more knowledgeable than you did. I think you should read your bible more.

@ high light in green

If you were not there, how do you know that Adam and Eve rebelled against God? Original Sin?


This your God's time table really got me laughing so hard till my lungs hurt, but seriously were u once a comedian? Or becos a religious scholar came
up wt this funny genealogy then it is binding on all Christians? Are u even aware that most religious scholars are not even Christians, they are mere scholars who read the Bible and interpret it on face value. They can not interpret it based on the revelation by the Holy Spirit cos they dont even have the Spirit in them; these are just university dons.

Adam and eve were deceived by serpent to disobey God. I know this cos it's in the Bible.
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by mantraa: 6:50pm On Mar 03, 2012
Adam and eve were deceived by serpent to disobey God. I know this cos it's in the Bible.

Facepalm  grin
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by Nobody: 7:09pm On Mar 03, 2012
You don't want this to be about the Bible, but you keep bringing it into this,


You're a Christian and you can't hide your bias. It's imposssssssible so stop trying and save yourself the headache. You called this an open challenge, i think mazaje, dekung etc have closed the challenge, if ever there was any. cheesy
Have fun, live a nice life, and let everyone be,
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by dekung(m): 7:20pm On Mar 03, 2012
@Mazaje,
FX says he is ready for your challenge
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by Nobody: 7:30pm On Mar 03, 2012
FXKing2012:

that there is a God who made all things and carefully crafted planet earth and placed it in the only habitable region of the galaxy and the universe well away from massive black holes, suns and exploding suns.
Dont u catch my drift?[/b][/color]

lol. Almost every point of light you see in this picture is a galaxy.  This is just a picture of a "point" in the observable universe.
You really think your "God" created the planet earth and humans in the "only habitable region of the galaxy and the universe"? Who told you, the ignorant bastard MOG you follow?
I'll just leave the "massive black holes, suns and exploding suns" alone.

I wonder why people are even engaging you, you're way too ignorant.

Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by FXKing2012(m): 8:13pm On Mar 03, 2012
Martian:

lol. Almost every point of light you see in this picture is a galaxy.  This is just a picture of a "point" in the observable universe.
You really think your "God" created the planet earth and humans in the "only habitable region of the galaxy and the universe"? Who told you, the ignorant bastard MOG you follow?
I'll just leave the "massive black holes, suns and exploding suns" alone.

You come here with so much anger spewing gibberish. Pls tell me, wat point have u made now?
Re: An Open Challenge To Atheists And Free-thinkers by Nobody: 8:32pm On Mar 03, 2012
FXKing2012:

You come here with so much anger spewing gibberish. Pls tell me, wat point have u made now?


Your worldview based on judeo christian mythology is ignorant and myopic. If we take your bible at face value, the whole universe is affixed to the firmament.

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