raumdeuter:


WHen did Ozil and Eriksen join the EPL and how many minutes have they played. Imagine comparing him to Mata who has stopped being a regular since Mourinho joined Chelsea in 2014

KDB topped assist charts twice in 3 seasons and Hazard never topped once in 6 seasons

raumdeuter:


The chances created too differ in quality. A chance served for a goal line tap in and a pass given to the back of a striker isnt the same

Unlimited22:

That's what I'm saying.
I will always use chances created as a very important metric in judging attackers.

NOBODYY:


All the above listed names take set pieces, Hazard doesn't.

raumdeuter:


The chances created too differ in quality. A chance served for a goal line tap in and a pass given to the back of a striker isnt the same

Nihilstjnr:


but if the ball that goes to the back of the striker is converted, the supplying player gets the credit for an assist...despite the pass being terrible.

E.g Kane against Panama - RLC assist.

if you're not discriminating assists based on quality, why are you discriminating chances created based on quality?

raumdeuter:


Chance created are not of the same quality, end of last season I showed some of the chances City attackers give Aguero which only require a tapin unlike a pass given to a striker where he had to use his own effort

All in all, assists even out the easy chances and tough chances over a season

If Hazard is having 4,5 and 4 assists despite playing with Morata and Costa(who you called one of the best attackers) and players like Willian and Fabregas are having more assists then the problem isnt the strikers but Hazard himself

Nihilstjnr:


no spoil am for me na?

I'm starting episode 2 on the train home in 30 minutes

raumdeuter:


Over a season these tough and easy chances even themselves out and if we have a player like Hazard over the past 3 seasons playing with different strikers have 4, 5 and 4 assists then it shows the problem isnt the strikers but Hazard himself

Nihilstjnr:


maybe if hazard was playing with a finished striker like Aguero instead of ediots like demba ba, old man Etoo, and Morata maybe his numbers would be better

lordfalcao:
no let me vex for you. Where can I download this

Unlimited22:

Willian and Fabregas both take set pieces.
And even the best strikers have their off days. Look at their shot conversion rates and you'll see what I'm saying.
And there are assists that are even inadvertent but still count.
If all goals and assists count, all chances created should count too.
Also how about the next metric, key passes?

Nihilstjnr:


maybe if hazard was playing with a finished striker like Aguero instead of ediots like demba ba, old man Etoo, and Morata maybe his numbers would be better

raumdeuter:


WHen did Ozil and Eriksen join the EPL and how many minutes have they played. Imagine comparing him to Mata who has stopped being a regular since Mourinho joined Chelsea in 2014

KDB topped assist charts twice in 3 seasons and Hazard never topped once in 6 seasons

Check the dictionary for the meaning of a fraud if you dont se Hazard in front

raumdeuter:


Fabregas is farther from goal and Willian isn't even a regular.

In the past 3 seasons in the league

Hazard 13 assists
Fabregas 23 assists
Willian 19 assists

Despite that Hazard plays closer to goal than any of the 3 and they were all serving the same attacker

Fabregas and Willian have enjoyed significant minutes on the bench in those 3 seasons

Nihilstjnr:




abeg no vex for me o!

I have an Amazon prime account so i get prime videos for free.

try the usual download places na?

Unlimited22:

The 15/16 season was a blip.
And you haven't accounted for set pieces.

obainojazz:
We are trying to get there, lewandoski is only trying to go to Madrid... So he'll be carried along.

raumdeuter:


That is because chance created often leads to assists. Its like using shots taken to judge strikers not actually goals scored

BlueAngel444:

There is also a reason no one gives assist leaders a goddamn spoon.

raumdeuter:


2015/16 4 league assists
2016/17 5 league assists
2017/18 4 league assists

So which of them was the blip or Hazard has been having 3 back to back blip seasons

first season B-L-I-P
second season B-L-O-P
Third season F-L-O-P

That is where Hazard is currently a FLOP

The gains in setpieces should be offset by the fact that Hazard is a regular who plays closer to goal

raumdeuter:


Of those 3 seasons Hazard played with Costa one of the best strikers in the world, SO the quality of striker excuse goes out

In those 3 seasons fabregas and Willian who play with the same set of players have more assists despite playing deeper and getting benched a lot this further tells us the problem is Hazard

NOBODYY:

All the above listed names take set pieces, Hazard doesn't.

Unlimited22:

Very soon Quavo and Takeoff will join
Now, if you factor in his total goal contributions, chances created, key passes and dribbles completed, you'll see why that season is a blip.

raumdeuter:


Is that why he had 4 5 and 4 assists in back to back 3 seasons as the main creative outlet of the team?

lordfalcao:
which website go get am?

raumdeuter:


Hazard takes penalties

lordfalcao:
which website go get am?

Nihilstjnr:
Hazard and Costa have been the only 2 real goal threats in the last 3 seasons.
So of course, his assist numbers will be down while his goal scoring numbers will be up.
Last season, Hazard was Chelsea top scorer in all competitions with 16 goals. That explains how dire the situation was at the club. If there's no other goal threat who is hazard supposed to crrate for?

raumdeuter:


You havent noticed almost everyone here is ignoring your posts?

Unlimited22:

Last season he was the top scorer in all competitions.
Who was he supposed to create for?
You can also check his chances created stats for the season to see whether as the CREATIVE outlet, he wasn't CREATING chances.

Unlimited22:

I don't get.
Are penalties supposed to be opportunities to get assists?