musKeeto:
U need more cheerleaders? Lol..


Nice write up, but 'did God want the Dana flight to crash?'.. no matter what GOD's plans may be, it seems like man's action has always had more weight... hence Jesus prayer 'may your will be done on earth, as it's done in heaven'..

Logic Mind: hey logicboy, Jesoul's bailed your asz on the other thread.

DoctorMcgruff:

Good question, i dont know if mans actions are suppose to have more weight, but i think they are because now we enter into the concept of free will. God has given us the freedom to do as we please but[b] he is basically saying look here is me and here is the other side what do you choose?[/b] In the case of Dana yes it was the failure of men(maintanance of the aircraft,corruption) that led to the crash. But like i said we dont know Gods reasons.

DoctorMcgruff:

Good question, i dont know if mans actions are suppose to have more weight, but i think they are because now we enter into the concept of free will. God has given us the freedom to do as we please but he is basically saying look here is me and here is the other side what do you choose? In the case of Dana yes it was the failure of men(maintanance of the aircraft,corruption) that led to the crash. But like i said we dont know Gods reasons.

DoctorMcgruff:

Good question, i dont know if mans actions are suppose to have more weight, but i think they are because now we enter into the concept of free will. God has given us the freedom to do as we please but he is basically saying look here is me and here is the other side what do you choose? In the case of Dana yes it was the failure of men(maintanance of the aircraft,corruption) that led to the crash. But like i said we dont know Gods reasons.

logicboy:


She had to. The stupid christian broke the rules.

Logic Mind:

with a god like yours, I will choose the other side.

DoctorMcgruff:

and no God did not want the crash to happen, he doesn't want any of these things to happen, but from my understanding he has reasons why he lets them. From his point of view he sees the bigger picture.

ivili: there is a story about a man who one day was very hungry that he decided he would walk two days to a forest in a nearby village to eat from a coconut tree.As he was walking,from a distant he could see that the tree had only one coconut,so he felt very happy that his hunger was going to be taking care of.Unfortunately for him,he did not know that the angel of death was waiting for him by the tree to take his life,just as he was getting close to the tree,the angel of life appeared in the form of man and started fighting the man.The hungry man was so angry that now of all time this madman had to attack him.They fought for three whole days,and finally the angel in form of man ran away,the hungry man cursed the man for delaying him from his meal.By the time he got to the tree,the angel of death had gone but the coconut had spoiled.The hungry man started to blame GOD for not helping him when that man delayed him in a fight,but he never knew and would never know that GOD was the one that sent the angel of life to rescue him from death that was waiting for him by the coconut tree.

cryptic:

Don't make no difference. It will still be on the database. It will be indexed by google, it will come up on the related post session in the footer and header part of the website...don't make no difference..

DoctorMcgruff:

and thats your choice. you clearly see something on the other side, and i see that that walking with Christ is better. Again this is back to free will and the ability to choose. Once again God has promised those who choose him eternal life and those who dont, well im sure you know

logicboy:


Wow, and that makes me happy. It will serve as evidence that christians are generally hypocrites, especially when they engage in cyberbullying and lies against others.


This is good

DoctorMcgruff:

and thats your choice. you clearly see something on the other side, and i see that that walking with Christ is better. Again this is back to free will and the ability to choose. Once again God has promised those who choose him eternal life and those who dont, well im sure you know

musKeeto:
He doesn't want anything of these things to happen? What bigger picture?
I understand you, but understand me when I say I refuse to believe this. When babies were dying due to a heart problem, some believed it was God's plan that the human heart should not be touched, that the heart was sacred. The world has progressed(and everyone benefits) because men have continued to research and work, not pray and fast. Men have thought of things, questioned the existence of boundaries, tried to find out our limits.. and this I fully support.
I accommodate the GOD idea, but MEN will ALWAYS remain SUBJECT to the CONSEQUENCES of THEIR ACTIONS..

cryptic:

It will also show the world how much of a foo.lish person you are.

musKeeto:
no, this is FALSE.. God didn't promise those who choose him eternal life..

Luke 10:25-37
25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”

27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[a]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’”

28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”
29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”
30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead.
31 A [b]priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side.
32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.
33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him.
34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him.
35 The next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’
36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”
37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”
Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

DoctorMcgruff:


Thats true but only a part of it, here is John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Whoever believes in him shall not PERISH but have ETERNAL LIFE

DoctorMcgruff:


Thats true but only a part of it, here is John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Whoever believes in him shall not PERISH but have ETERNAL LIFE

DoctorMcgruff:

you also backed up my point in your own answer, "Love the lord your God with all your heart and all your soul" If you love God you clearly have chosen him

Logic Mind:

The only point you have made so far is that you are a deluded and indoctrinated one who refuses to use her brain but instead spits out the crap fed to her by other fellow humans whose only objective concerning you is pure exploitation.

Michky: Logicmind. If u r a Nigerian, then am proud to b 1 2. So we av smart people in dis part of d world eh? I was almost losin hope o. Abeg tel them! Remind those brainwashd ignorant people that what their pastors r after are their pockets.

cryptic:

You are a certified idio.t.

musKeeto:
We know you have nothing sensible to post.. your grammar skills have been murdered, sense of logic rubbished and even your anonymity on this forum might soon be decrypted.

cryptic:

My sense of logic rubbished? Well, you are pardoned. I acknowledge the fact that u have a mosquito's brain. So, what else would you expect from a mosquito?

cryptic:

You are a certified idio.t.

cryptic:

You are a certified idio.t.

musKeeto:
Lmao.. like I said 'you have nothing sensible to post'..... try again..

Michky: Lets reason 2geda now. Betwn u & i, who realy is d idiot? Is it d 1 who is guided by a book that contradicts itself; is it d 1 dat listens obediently 2 a pastor that doesnt av a clue what he's sayn?. You tell me. Personally, i bliv in Jesus & God but not in any religion. Y? I'l tel u. U c, if spirituality is unreal, then ritual killin wudnt b realy thrivin 2da. Yes, unlike u, i know where 2 draw d line (God wud not do 4 man what he can do by himself). U just wudnt find me sayn contradictory stuff because my pastor said so, because i know why alot of things r d way they r. & 4 d Dana crash, its nt God's biz 2 protect anybody(unlike what d bible claims). Altho spirituality exists, we are on our own here on earth. Unfortunately, its going 2 b hard 2 change d belif of a brainwashd slowpoke like u. U'r on your own.

Michky: Lets reason 2geda now. Betwn u & i, who realy is d idiot? Is it d 1 who is guided by a book that contradicts itself; is it d 1 dat listens obediently 2 a pastor that doesnt av a clue what he's sayn?. You tell me. Personally, i bliv in Jesus & God but not in any religion. Y? I'l tel u. U c, if spirituality is unreal, then ritual killin wudnt b realy thrivin 2da. Yes, unlike u, i know where 2 draw d line (God wud not do 4 man what he can do by himself). U just wudnt find me sayn contradictory stuff because my pastor said so, because i know why alot of things r d way they r. & 4 d Dana crash, its nt God's biz 2 protect anybody(unlike what d bible claims). Altho spirituality exists, we are on our own here on earth. Unfortunately, its going 2 b hard 2 change d belif of a brainwashd slowpoke like u. U'r on your own.