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Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Delafruita(m): 10:17am On Jun 25, 2012 |
davidylan:i agree with you that arabs in the west bank had the same passport as jordanians.however it wasnt until 1967,it was until 1946 when jordan was granted its independence.before then,arabs in the east and west of the jordan river had the the palestine mandate passport and spent the palestine mandate currency.the laws applied to then and they were regarded as one.however in 1946,britain unilaterally granted transjordan independence thereby letting go of over 76% of the original mandate of palestine.after the 1948 war,unification of the banks took place with the palestines been granted jordanian citizenship and that has remained till date. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Nobody: 10:18am On Jun 25, 2012 |
Delafruita: The Gaza blockade officially started in 2001, Shalit was captured in 2006. Obviously you dont know what you're talking about. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Nobody: 10:21am On Jun 25, 2012 |
Delafruita: This is quite daft. West Bank arabs were regarded as Jordanian citizens until Jordan lost the land to Israel in 1967. Your sentence in highlights makes no logical sense. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Delafruita(m): 10:24am On Jun 25, 2012 |
davidylan: This is for delafruita... the ignorant fruitcake... read and weep from wikipedia with no distortion from me at all...i never disputed the fact that jordan didnt exist as a NATION before 1922.yes,king abdullah was from saudi arabia but the british has removed his brother as king of syria in an action that reversed the choice of the people who wanted faisal as king.then transjordan was anneed to him in compensation and as a way to end the conflict.however,the people of jordan had a claim to that land.even the Bible accounts for the presence of jordan.if isreal claims right to land based on its ancestry,why should jordan be denied same?you should note that the region was anneed to abdullah to rule,he didnt move the people into the region,the jordanians were already there.it was made into a british protectorate with abdullah as its figurehead.not till after its independence did abdullah proclaim himself king |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Nobody: 10:41am On Jun 25, 2012 |
hydoo: Congrat 2 ol muslims in egypt,may he followed d teach of prophet MUHAMMAD SAW ameen Hmmm, if they do follow his teachings we are all 'doomed' |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Delafruita(m): 10:48am On Jun 25, 2012 |
davidylan: there have been punitive closures since 1991 when exit permits were revoked and in 1993 when students movement permits were restricted to gaza.however the blockade officially began with the battle of gaza after hamas replaced fatah officials with its own after winning parliamentary elections in 2006.during the course of this,shalit was captured and isreal hinged the lifting of the blockade on shalit's release.this was supported by the international community which viewed shalit's capture and seclusion as war crimes and supported the naval blockade. blockade of the Gaza Strip refers to a land, air, and sea blockade on the Gaza Strip by Israel and Egypt since June 2007, a moresevere version of restrictions which began in 2001. Israel eased the blockade for non-military goods in June 2010, and Egypt reopened the Rafah border crossing in 2011 for persons. [ 1 ] [ 2 ] In 2006 Hamas won the Palestinian legislative election , triggering the 2006-2007 economic sanctions against the Palestinian National Authority by Israel and the Quartet on the Middle East . In March 2007,Hamas and Fatah formed a Palestinan authority national unity government headed by Ismail Haniya . Shortly after, in June, Hamas took control of the Gaza Strip in the course of the Battle of Gaza , [ 3 ] seizing government institutions and replacing Fatah and other government officials with its own. [ 4 ] Following the takeover, Egypt andIsrael largely sealed their border crossings with Gaza, on the grounds that Fatah had fled and was no longer providing security on the Palestinian side. [ 5 ] Israel maintains that the blockade is necessary to limit Palestinian rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip on its cities and to prevent Hamas from obtaining other weapons. Prior to its 2011 opening of the Rafah crossing , Egypt maintained that it could not fully open its side of the border since completely opening the border would represent Egyptian recognition of the Hamas control of Gaza, undermine the legitimacy of the Palestinian National Authority and consecrate the split between Gaza and the West Bank. [ 6 ] Facing mounting international calls to ease or lift their blockade in response to the Gaza flotilla raid , Egypt and Israel lessened the restrictions starting in June 2010. Israel announced that it will allow all strictly civilian goods into Gaza while preventing certain weapons and what it designates as "dual-use" items from entering Gaza. [ 7 ] Egypt partly opened the Rafah border crossing from Egypt to Gaza, primarily for people, but not for supplies, to go through. [ 8 ] Israel continues to severely restrict and/or prevent people from entering or exiting Gaza. [ 9 ] [ 10 ] [ 11 ] The Israeli NGO Gisha Legal Center for Freedom of Movement asserted in a July 2010 report that Israel continues to prevent normal functioning of the Gazan economy. The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA) conducted an assessment of the humanitarian impact of the easing of the blockage in January and February 2011 and concluded that they didnot result in a significant improvement in people’s livelihoods. [ 12 ] Egypt opened the Rafah border crossing permanently on 28 May 2011. Women of all ages and men aged below 18 and above 40 are able to enter Egypt without a visa, [ 13 ] although there are still severe restrictions on the movement of personnel and goods to and from Gaza. [ 14 ] [ 15 ] In practice, however, a great deal of goods are smuggled in through tunnels between Egypt and Gaza , and the quantity of goods smuggled in has increased greatly since the Egyptian revolution in early 2011. [ 16 ] Opinion on the legality of the blockade is mixed. In September 2011, a UN investigative committee concluded in the Palmer Report that the naval blockade is legal and had to be judged isolated from the restrictions on goods reaching Gaza via the land crossings. Concerning the restrictions on goods reaching Gaza via the land crossings the Palmer report stated that they were the main reason for a unsustainable and unacceptable humanitarian situation in Gaza. [ 17 ] [ 18 ] [ 19 ] [ 20 ] UN envoy Desmond Tutu , United Nations Human Rights Council head Navi Pillay , the International Committee of the Red Cross and, according to Richard Falk , most experts on international law [ 21 ] consider the blockade illegal. [ 22 ] [ 23 ] [ 24 ] [ 25 ] [ 26 ] |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Delafruita(m): 10:51am On Jun 25, 2012 |
davidylan:i dont think you read the post to the end,else you would have read the part where i said after the war in 1948,jordan and palestine decided to unify the east and west bank and the people of the west bank were granted jordanian citizenship |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Delafruita(m): 11:05am On Jun 25, 2012 |
davidylan: the first intifada which restricted movement of palestines was in 1991.the second intifada was in 200.however the blockade or "economic warfare" as isreal calls it began in 2006 with isreal stating its demands as freedom of gilat shalit,hamas surrendering control of gaza.besides isreal is the architect of its own troubles.it is a well known fact that the shin bet created hamas to destabilise the PLO and continued to support hamas New York Times Reporter David Shipler cites the Israeli military governor of Gaza as boasting that Israel expressly financed the fundamentalists against the PLO: "Politically speaking, Islamic fundamentalists were sometimes regarded as useful to Israel, because they had conflicts with the secular supporters of the PLO. Violence betweenthe two groups erupted occasionally on West Bank university campuses. Israeli military governor of the Gaza Strip, Brigadier General Yitzhak Segev, once told me how he had financed the Islamic movement as a counterweight to the PLOand the Communists. 'The Israeli Government gave me a budget and the military government gives to the mosques,' he said." As Dreyfuss notes, "during the 1980s, the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza and the West Bank did not support resistance to the Israeli occupation. Most ofits energy went to fighting the PLO, especially its more left-wing factions, on university campuses." After the Palestinian uprising of 1987, the PLO accused Hamas and Yassin of acting "with the directsupport of reactionary Arab regimes... in collusion with the Israeli occupation." Yasser Arafat complained to an Italian newspaper:"Hamas is a creation of Israel, which at the time of Prime Minister Shamir, gave them money and more than 700 institutions, among them schools, universities and mosques." Arafat also maintained that Israeli prime minister Rabin admitted to him in the presence of Hosni Mubarak that Israel had supported Hamas. Essentially, as analyst Ray Hannania pointed out, in "Sharon's Terror Child" , published in Counterpunch, "undermining the peace process has always been the real target of Hamas and has played into the political ambitions of Likud. Every time Israeli and Palestinian negotiators appeared ready to take a major step forward achieving peace, an act of Hamas terrorism has scuttled the peace process and pushed the two sides apart." In "Hamas and the Transformation of Political Islam in Palestine", for Current History, Sara Roy wrote: "Some analysts maintain that while Hamas leaders are being targeted, Israel is simultaneously pursuing its old strategyof promoting Hamas over the secular nationalist factions as a way of ensuring the ultimate demise of the [Palestinian Authority], and as an effort to extinguish Palestinian nationalism once and for all." |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Delafruita(m): 11:39am On Jun 25, 2012 |
@daviddylan you seems to have taken a break.anyway,aside from the parts where you hurls unnecessary derogaroty remarks,your arguments were quite informative and well structured.however,the reality is isreal attracted more enemies than necessary with the 6-day war.it seized the golan,west bank,sinai and gaza.by june 19,1967,the unity government of isreal agreed to return the sinai to egypt and the golan to syria.it claimed it passed this on to the johnson administratit granted citizenship to the inhabitants of the west bank and the golan,it returned the sinai after camp david and left the status of gaza undecided.if it had gone along to the johnson administration which admits receiving the info but stated that it wasnt informed about when the move was to be made and how to proceed.egypt and syria never received this information.isreal then granted citizenship to the arabs in east jerusalem and the golan.leaving the status of the gazans undecided. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by maclatunji: 12:08pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
davidylan: Dude, you are a widely read ignoramus. Ok, let me agree with you for the sake of argument that the IDF is not an occupying force in the West Bank. In effect, you are saying that the West Bank is a part of Israel and by extension those people living there are actually Israelis and that Fatah is actually an Israeli party for Israelis and that the Israeli/Palestinian conflict does not exist at all. It is easy to see that not only are you classless but that the average Lagos Area boy is actually smarter than you. Ignorance + Arrogance = Intolerance and we know you are full of the three. You are a poor specimen of a Christian, a very poor one at that. 2 Likes |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by maclatunji: 1:10pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
David, your ignorance is of the highest quality blended with the highest level of arrogance, extra-matured over time. Israeli-occupied territories The Israeli-occupied territories are the territories which have been designated as occupied territory by the United Nations and other international organizations, governments and others to refer to the territory seized by Israel during the Six-Day War of 1967 from Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. They consist of the West Bank,the Gaza Strip and much of the Golan Heights and, until 1982, the Sinai Peninsula. The West Bank and Gaza Strip are also referred to as the Palestinian territories or Occupied Palestinian Territory. The Palestinian Authority, the EU,the International Court of Justice, the UN General Assembly and the UN Security Council consider East Jerusalem to be part of the West Bank, a position disputed by Israel (Why am I not surprised ). Israeli governments have preferred the term "disputed territories" in the case of the West Bank.The Israeli High Court of Justice has ruled that Israel holds the West Bank under "belligerent occupation". The International Court of Justice, the UN General Assembly and the United Nations Security Council regards Israel as the "Occupying Power". The first use of the term 'territories occupied' was in United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 following the Six Day War in 1967, which called for "the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East" to be achieved by "the application of both the following principles: ... Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict ... Termination of all claims or states of belligerency" and respect for the right of every state in the area to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries. Israel's annexation of East Jerusalem in 1980 (see Jerusalem Law) and the Golan Heights in 1981 (see Golan Heights Law) has not been recognised by any other country. United Nations Security Council Resolution 478 declared the annexation of Jerusalem "null and void" and required that it be rescinded. United Nations Security Council Resolution 497 also declared the annexation of the Golan "null and void". Following withdrawal by Israel from the Sinai Peninsula in 1982, as part of the 1979 Israel–Egypt Peace Treaty, the Sinai ceased to be considered occupied territory. Israel unilaterally disengaged from Gaza in September 2005, and declared itself no longer to be in occupation of the Strip. However, as it retains control of Gaza's airspace and coastline, it continues to be designated as an occupying power in the Gaza Strip by the United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly and some countries and various human rights organizations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories David, you are on a slide to irrelevance on this forum- keep up the good work. I can already guess what your reactions will be too. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by wisestfool2006: 2:56pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
it's only a fool dat will not support d work of Allah, i think dis is d time for the all egyptian |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by samkoro: 5:27pm On Jun 26, 2012 |
mathskill: (1)So Jesus your God Came out from a woman hole,I pity you,for your inform mulims dont regard muhammed as God but a messenger who is a mortal and subject all human feelings. 2))U just reminded me of a particular scene in a film -OZ. A convict being ushered into the maximum prison was asked why he killed his Parents and ate them.He denied eating the Dad but willingly admitted eating the mom.It makes no sense to quote since ur deaf and blind.Tell me if mohameds Jihad in the days was a love party or war.Now u implicitly admit that mohamed killed the innocents but not women and children.Good satan. 1)Jesus is the son of God and not God. Jesus as God is the weak auguement moslems always present.Let me explain,I assume u don't know-- God the father Jehovah is the almighty,he dwells permanently in heaven. Holy spirit is the power/force through which he reaches mankind/the holy spirit of God does the Job. Son Jesus Christ is his master plan of salvation for mankind.The son is his plan to open up heaven to man;which simply means man must believe Christ and live like him to make heaven.No man made heaven/paradise before the coming of christ.The first paradise which was the Garden of eden was lost by man due to sin. 3)Call it a Woman-hole because moslems don't respect women and the hole through which they and mohamed came. Jehovah made it so.He has to take a human flesh .He doesn't have to fall from the sky.Remember its God that created earth.He still values it God forbid me taking a 9yr old child to my house as a wife not to talk of a person that calls himself prophet. Christ never slept with any body,that is to show u the spiritual side and he did miracles to show u God sent him.When people,especially d jews rejected mohamed because he failed to perform miracles he started killing out of anger.If one is a prophet,there must b supernatural signs ,ok.Ask moses and the sapent. 5)Christ allowed himself to be killed cos it was predicted and its a requirement that he must die for his blood to bring salvation(open up paradise for those who wish to enter).Christ that walked on water,healed the sick,turned water to wine,raised the dead ,said that he could ask his heavenly to send down 12armis of angel to deal with his captors,but he won't,so that the prophesy will be fulfilled Now u know that Jehovah is the almighty God and Christ is his plan for salvation of mankind A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Nobody: 2:47am On Jun 27, 2012 |
maclatunji: At least you acknowledge i am widely read... you can add the other insults as you wish. Unlike empty-headed fools like you, i actually take my time to read my facts before posting. The above is idiocy at its best. The West bank belonged to Israel BEFORE Jordan annexed it in 1949 and poured Jordanian citizens into it. Israel does not want the land but unfortunately has its hands tied since Jordan does not want it either... cant blame them... who wants cancerous extremist muslims at its doorsteps. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Nobody: 2:52am On Jun 27, 2012 |
maclatunji: David, your ignorance is of the highest quality blended with the highest level of arrogance, extra-matured over time. what was the point here? I get sick of these dunces who cannot advance an argument beyond the mundane cutting and pasting. The above was to address what issue? and i thought delafruita had no thinking skills, you take the cake. maclatunji: Hmm help me out here... "relevance" on this forum adds what to my life? i barely have the time to post here these days and even when i do its mostly at night before i sleep. I mean... seriously does your life consist on the level of your perceived level of "relevance" here? If that's the case may i suggest you logout and actually get a life. No wonder... now your obsequious behaviour on the family section has been explained. Your life seems to consist on the basis of how many faceless nairalanders here like you? Such a disgraceful shame. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Nobody: 2:53am On Jun 27, 2012 |
Delafruita: @daviddylan I have to work you know... unlike maclatunji... i do have a job, friends, family and other important things to do besides responding to faceless fruitcakes on the web. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by maclatunji: 9:00am On Jun 27, 2012 |
davidylan: I will let you go this time since you are forming Worky Workison. LOL, IDF is not an occupying force in the West Bank... David, do some basic research before you start bragging next time. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Nobody: 11:23am On Jun 27, 2012 |
maclatunji: Quite daft. Turkey has steadfastly refused to give the Kurds in their region independence... why is Turkey not recognized as an "occupying force"? Of course we know its one rule for others and another for Israel. I dont need to "form"... i suppose that is what your life generally consists off... obsequious pretense. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by maclatunji: 1:36pm On Jun 27, 2012 |
davidylan: Awwwwwww, poor David and Israel, quit whining. I guess the United Nations too is partial and David is wiser than the global body. If the bolded is true then the Jews need to check themselves. Afterall, Israel is the Jewish State. By the way, who made you the Israeli Consul on Nairaland? |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Nobody: 1:45pm On Jun 27, 2012 |
maclatunji: Lets be honest... they really dont. Israel possesses the firepower to destroy the entire middle east. Guess Egypt, Syria and Jordan are much more the wiser now... wanna bet Egypt still licks its wounds over having to beg to end a war it started in 1967? No wonder muslims gnash their teeth when it comes to the puny little LIONS of the middle east. The UN is what it is... a place where folks like Libya and Syria have a seat on the human rights council and Iran is spearheading talks on racism? What a joke. Of course i note the braindead fool ignores the Turkey issue... how dare we accuse the muslims of being such horrid abusers? |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by maclatunji: 1:50pm On Jun 27, 2012 |
davidylan: I am not about to start hopping about with you like frog. I have punctured your vain attempts to revise facts that the world knows and accepts. You expect me to start disproving every fallacy you post? Now, who is looking jobless? |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Nobody: 1:56pm On Jun 27, 2012 |
maclatunji: Another idiot with an over-inflated sense of intelligence that mostly consists of struggling too hard to maintain a false veneer of serenity, copying and pasting stuff he doesnt understand, weaving and bobbing around salient issues to focus on mundane idiocy... little wonder even your own muslim brethren sneer at you for the most part. Jobless? lol you will kill to have the job i presently have not to talk of the one i am transitioning to in 6 weeks. Ode thinks because we post on the same forum we are on the same level... o boy go siddon for doti. Even without lifting a finger this morning i already got paid the equivalent of your yrly salary. Mugu. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by maclatunji: 2:14pm On Jun 27, 2012 |
^Hahaha! What a combo, lame and vain at the same time. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Nobody: 3:04pm On Jun 27, 2012 |
maclatunji: ^Hahaha! What a combo, lame and vain at the same time. No wahala now... i reserve the sharp end for the braindead who think because we share the same forum they now have a leg to stand on to argue with their intellectual superiors. My guy... your brain is not worthy to shine my shoes bro. Everywhere you find maclatunji, serious threads devolve into housewife kitchen discussions... filled with idiotic, irrelevancies. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by maclatunji: 3:58pm On Jun 27, 2012 |
davidylan: Anything you say O great deluded deludedness! |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Delafruita(m): 6:29pm On Jun 27, 2012 |
davidylan:as in seriously?no thinking skills?thats harsh |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Delafruita(m): 6:34pm On Jun 27, 2012 |
davidylan:hmm.equivalent of his yearly salary without lifting a finger sounds tempting.i would love to be able to do that if you would be willing to teach.we've had our arguments,perhaps there's a better liason ahead.my email-delafruita@yahoo.com.hoping to hear from you |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Nobody: 8:14pm On Jun 27, 2012 |
Delafruita: Do you live in Nigeria? |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by juman(m): 10:51am On Jun 28, 2012 |
Thank you God for giving us the Muslim Brotherhood. Alhamdulillah. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Nobody: 12:07pm On Jun 28, 2012 |
juman: Thank you God for giving us the Muslim Brotherhood. Alhamdulillah. Another deluded fool. The muslim brotherhood is responsible for Hamas. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by juman(m): 10:43am On Jun 30, 2012 |
See how the president transform very fast to a very good talker. That is effect of education. |
Re: Egypt Has A New President: Mohamed Morsi by Nobody: 2:20am On Jul 02, 2012 |
juman: See how the president transform very fast to a very good talker. That is effect of education. absolutely incredible upside down logic. |
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