Tadup: he is much much much much much much much much better than GEJ(A.k.a no shoes and boat house)

trenchcoat: davidylan:What do you understand by the word wisdom? When did prayer became a crime? Who engineered the crises in the countries you made mention of? Were they not the Jews and Americans? Typical comment of a hatred buried being.

davidylan:

What then explains the arab progrom against Jews in that yr? What settlements caused the problem? Dishonest fools.



and pray tell why were they against this?



More disgraceful lies... 6 arab nations declared war against the jews in 1948 for no reason...



that's quite stup[i]i[/i]d really because we have google and wikipedia. The league of nations duly voted for a split of the land between Israel, arabs and more arabs in the form of the nascent nation of Jordan. Israel agreed to their tiny sliver... arabs chose to go to war.



Again a lie (you muslims seem to excel at dishonesty)... Egypt, Syria and jordan led the 1967 war... NONE of them was affected by the creation of Israel in 1948...



1. It may interest you to note that the blockade is 100% legal... pls look up the latest UN declaration on this. If Cameroon was committed to the destruction of Nigeria, i'm sure you would expect Nigeria to enforce an air and maritime blockade to prevent the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction on its border.



Such a disgrace... why are you such a dishonest fellow?



Absurd. Israel transported over 34000 tonnes of food and goods into Gaza between June 1 and June 16 2012. Virtually all Gaza's gas needs come from Israel and a little from Egypt. Gaza's power plants are supplied power mostly by Israel...

But dont let facts get in the way of spinning one for the dishonest army of allah.



Again another lie that doesnt require more than 2 mins of research to debunk. The PLO charter was written in 1964... at that time Egypt was in control of Gaza and Jordan was in control of the Westbank... so how was Israel denying the rights of palestinians to exist? By merely existing in Nazareth?



Such a fool. You cant get a US passport without swearing allegiance to the US ditto for an Iranian passport so why is Israel being singled out here?

1. The palestinians (who didnt exist before 1988 by the way) had a chance to create their state before 1967 when arabs controlled their lands... what happened then?

2. It would interest you to note that the standard of living of Israeli arabs and those in the west bank is over 10x higher than arabs in Syria, Lebanon, Egypt or Iran... but again dont let facts get in the way of another lie in honor of allah and his murderous gangs of arab thieves.



So why didnt the arabs take the 91% then negotiate hard for the remaining 9%? Perhaps because land and a state isnt really what they want?



What a joke you folks are. So these people where so desperate for a state that they scuttled their negotiations for one because Ariel Sharon happened to pass by the Al Aqsa mosque? I laugh at your own stup[i]i[/i]dity.



Convoluted nonsense. what has negotiations with Syria over the golan got to do with the palestinians?



1. no it wasnt phosphorus bombs but tracers... read and weep.

2. I'm not sure you're truly interested in the innocent... i havent seen you crying over the truly innocent in Syria. you dont seem to care unless muslims are killed by IDF bombs... when it is muslims doing the killing, you barely even lift an eyelid.

3. Yeah i suppose 8 yrs of patiently tolerating rockets and bomb attacks unprovoked is not enough before you choose to retaliate?

davidylan:

1. Hamas is not in a struggle for land... it has Gaza all to itself now... why hasnt it started the process of governing rather than spending all its resources building bombs to send over the Israeli border? Has it ever occurred to you to ask? Of course not... that would be too much for an unintelligent troll.

Delafruita:

6 arab nations declared war against isreal for selfish reasons of thheir own,but the palestines themselves went to war for good reason.when the original palestinian territory was divided to create isreal,it was done in such a way that isreal got 56% of the land in an area that had almost equal number of jews and arabs while palestines got 44% in an area that had more than 800,000 palestines and less than 10,000jews.

Delafruita:
also isreal got statehhood while palestine was denied same.the arab nations invaded with plans to annex the palestinian territory to themselves.this wouldnt have arisen if palestine has also been granted a statehood

Delafruita:
isreal didnt accept a "tins silver",it got the larger share in an unfair division.

Delafruita:
you make me laugh.so because isreal released tonnes of aid which it had held for so long,it means isreal isnt starving the palestines?

Delafruita:
do you realise what viva palestine is all about?why did egypt raise its wall around gaza?why do organizations from around the world send aid to gaza?why do people join flotillas,risking their lives,to take aid to gaza?

Delafruita:
isreal banned flights into gaza and refuses direct aid to gaza,organizations attempted to take aid by sea and what did they get,greek officials were forced into intercepting the flotilla.eventually israeli soldiers kiilled 7 turkish members of the flotilla,an incident isreal refused to apologize for leading to crisis with turkey.

Delafruita:
presidents clinton and obama have repeatedly said that israel has to trade land for peace.isreal has refused to do that.an agreement was reached for isreal to retreat to its pre-1967 borders but isreal has refused.palestines want statehood but cannot get it because america has the veto power to deny them as it did in 2011.

Delafruita:
it is an obvious distortion of facts and history to say palestines didnt exist before 1988.history shows that palestines have existed on those lands since the conquest of jerusalem by babylon.

Delafruita:
as at the time the jewish state was created,it was created out of palestinean territory which was a british protectorate.it was epected that the 2states would be created,rather isreal was created and given 56% of the land while palestine was regarded as a territory

Delafruita:
sharon's famous stroll was well orchestrated.at that time,barak was in shepherdstown negotiating with arafat but was certain to lose the elections to sharon.by taking a "stroll" into an area reverred by palestines,sharon was passing a message that irrespective of the agreements reached,he would not let the lands go.sharon did win the elections.so you see,it wasnt about the stroll,it was the message he passed

Delafruita:
negotiations with syria over the golan heights has everything to do with palestine.first syria and palestine arent allies.syria doesnt pose a threat to isreal and with or without the golan,syria wouldnt attack isreal directly.

Delafruita:
http://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/Israeli_military_confirms_the_use_of_white_phosphorus_bombs_in_the_Gaza_Strip

it was phosphorus bombs.read and weep

Delafruita:
[b]what do you mean by hamas has control of gaza?[/b]have you forgotten there is a blockade in place?a blockade that prevents over 300,000 people from going to the jobs,that stops children from going to school,that stops food and necessary aid from entering into gaza.even the aid is seized by isreal.it wasnt until december,after palestines bid for statehood failed that isreal released over $1billion in aid it has seized.hamas doesnt have control of gaza till the blockade is lifted

zaboy: a big hifh-5 to the people of Egypt.
They havent had an election in decades, yet the immediate one was free and fair! shame to nigeria!

tpia@:
@ topic

is he a fundamentalist muslim?

tholu_osa2: Back to the topic.

The Egyptian election result is result of complicated compromise!

The Egyptians actually had their hands tied - more than 50% of them wanted a president with secular leanings. Unfortunately and as we do also in Nigeria, the secularists failed to present a common front (presidential candidate) hence their loss in the first round of voting!

Most of those who voted for Morsi do not actually like him and his party, they did so because they believed Shafiq was a continued embodiment of Mubarak's governement - they voted with a part of their heart in fear and another part in hope that the brotherhood will be fair to all.

The Muslim Brotherhood had earlier said stated and promised that they will not contest for the presidency, they reneged on their word on seeing what they could do with power - that should have been enough flashing lights for the Egyptians instead of having a pathological hate for anything having a connection to Mubarak, even if it were an ordinary cat!

The military's action is a necessary evil to ensure Egypt's sanctity in matters of defence, foreign affairs and constitutional right of all citizens.

So, what are the lessons for all Nigeria?
1. We must all unite on a single platform to send any government not working for our progress - electing a true Nigerian having no bias to religion or ethnic domination
2. We must not trust any politician that lies and changes his/her word once they have opportunities for power-grabbing
3. We must not be quick to dismiss politicians on their prior affiliations (fashola was almost suffering this fate in 2007)


The future will be bright if we all stand tall and unwavering on the truth!

davidylan:

I stopped reading when i got to the "west bank". There is relative "peace" there because the IDF maintains a very strong presence. Keep quiet if you are this ignorant.

Trust me, we respect the choice of muslims to select fools and tyrants to rule over them... we only have a problem when you choose to enter our churches with bombs in the name of allah.

maclatunji:

Lame David, your IDF is an occupying force, I doubt you know what that means in the context of peace. Anybody who reads your posts will know that you are shallow and bigoted. You will soon rubbish yourself out of relevance, keep ranting, insulting and whining.

Lagos Area boys have more class and respect than you dude.

davidylan:

this is a senseless lie. Arabs had already gotten 75% of the land (JORDAN) in 1922, rather than Israel getting the remaining 25%, it was once again split almost halfway to accommodate arab intransigence, intolerance and pure vile nature. Have you ever wondered why jordan is almost 80% palestinian?



Stup[i]i[/i]d. Israel got statehoood because it agreed to the league of nations split. Palestine wasnt denied statehood, it simply refusd its share and chose instead to wipe out the jews so they could annex the entire land to themselves... they lost... deal with it.



Hmmm actually the arab share was unfair. They already got Jordan... then got almost half what was left AGAIN. Unless of course fairness means allah's slaves get everything and others get none.



lol you're a joke...

1. Israel releases tonnes of aid to Gaza on almost a biweekly basis... it hasnt held them for so long and is certainly under no obligation to provide such aid.
2. There is no starvation in Gaza dear... that is a lie from the pit of allah's throne. Have you EVER seen starvation photos from Gaza like we see from places like Somalia or Niger? Shame on you for lying so horribly. Palestinians have a much higher standard of living that Nigerians can ever imagine. I wish we "starved" like palestinians... at least we would be guaranteed food for no work at all.



It may interest you to note that of the 2 flotilla's to Gaza so far... none brought aid at all. you should be more informed before spewing lies here bro.



Jumbled and deliberately misleading nonsense.

1. Israel bans flights INTO Israel. You can fly into Egypt and try getting into Gaza from there... why try to use Israeli airports?

2. Organizations are encouraged to send aid to Ashdod ports where the aid then gets transfered to Gaza for free! The sole reason Gaza wants its ports unchecked is to allow Iran and Syria ship weapons in.

3. Israeli soldiers killed 7 turkish members of a flotilla that brought no aid and attacked unarmed Israeli soldiers first. There are youtube videos that debunk your lie.



So why exactly was Israel attacked in 1967 when its borders did not include Westbank and Gaza?



If this is the case, care to explain to us why virtually NO arab towns existed there prior to 1908? Why are the names all jewish names? Crazy.
Where were these arab palestinians when Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70?



I get tired of educating these islamic goons. 3 States were created - Jordan, Israel and more land for another arab state. The arabs refused in favour of destroying the jews forever.
Too bad they lost as they always will bow down before the Lion of Judah.



All these over a mere stroll? Allah and his goons sure have a great sense of humor.



Sigh. What a dishonest and illiterate fool. Pls use google next time.
Syria is in a permanent state of war with Israel... constitutionally so how exactly does it not pose a threat?
Syria attacked Israel in 1948, 1953 and 1967... WITHOUT the Golan heights issue so what exactly is this fool saying?



I know you're quite slow but you shld research what a tracer is.

Delafruita:
"The Tragedy of Palestine
The Balfour Declaration’s commitment to a Jewish national home in the British mandate of Palestine soon came back to haunt Britain and the Arabs. Arabs were outragedby the implication that they were the intruders in Palestine, when in fact at the end of World War II they accounted for about 90% of the population.
While Jewish immigration to Palestine in the 1920’s caused little alarm, the situation escalated markedly with the rise of Nazi persecution in Europe. Large numbers of European Jews flocked to Palestine, inflaming nationalist passions among all Arabs, who feared the creation of a Jewish state in which they would be the losers. Palestinian resistance erupted into a full-scale revolt which lasted from 1936-39. This revolt, which in some respects resembled the intifada of the late 1980s, was the first major outbreak of Palestinian-Zionist hostilities.
Although the strict terms imposed on Transjordan since 1921 prevented Emir Abdullah from establishing official contacts with Palestinian Arabs under the British mandate, he nonetheless gave refuge to Palestinian leaders and political activists. He constantly warned the British against earmarking Arab lands for a Jewish national home and allowing increased Jewish immigration to Palestine. He also intervened at various levels on behalf ofthe Palestinians, while warning of impending disaster should a diplomatic solution to the problem not be found. His predictions fell on deaf ears, but came true nonetheless.
As the Jewish population in Palestine increased sharply during the 1930s, fighting betweenJews and Arabs increased also. Both sides blamed the British, who failed miserably in their attempts to reach a settlement acceptable to all. The conflict was muted by the onset of World War II, during which both sides cooperated with the British. Transjordan’s Arab Legion also joined the side of the Allies, helping the British and the Free French drive the Vichy forces from Syria.
The crisis of Palestine reached a boiling point in the years immediately after the war. With international sympathy firmly behind the Jews in the wake of the Holocaust, Zionist leaderspressured the British to admit thousands of displaced Jews. At the same time, underground Jewish groups such as the Irgun and the renegade Stern Gang initiated a campaign of terrorism against the British. Washing its hands of the whole imbroglio, Britaindeclared in February 1947 that its mandate over Palestine would end on May 14, 1948. The matter was then addressed by the United Nations, which, after rejecting various plans, voted for the partition of Palestine in November 1947. The plan called for the partition of Palestine into an Arab state and a Jewish state, with al-Quds (Jerusalem) to be placed under UN trusteeship. More than half the territory, including the valuable coastal strip, had been allotted to the Jews, who only owned about 6% of the land. The Arabs were shocked, and conflict was inevitable.
On May 14, 1948, the British terminated their mandate over Palestine, and the Jews immediately proclaimed the independence of the state of Israel. The Soviet Union was the first country to recognize Israel, followed promptly by the United States. The tragedy of Palestine was born.
The 1948 Arab-Israeli War
"prior to the UN General Assembly’s November 1947 decision to partition Palestine, King Abdullah had proposed sending the Arab Legion to defend the Arabs of Palestine. Reacting to the passing of the partition plan, he announced Jordan’s readiness to deploy the full force of the Arab Legion in Palestine. An Arab League meeting held in Amman two days before the expiration of the British mandate concluded that Arab countries would send troops to Palestine to join forces with Jordan’s army.
Immediately after the proclamation of the state of Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and Iraq sent troops to join with Jordanian forces in order to defend their brethren, the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine. However, the attacks were uncoordinated and each army took orders from its own commanders. The Jewish forces were therefore able to exploit the political and military differences among the Arab armies. Contrary to the popular misconception, Israel also held a distinct manpower advantage over its adversaries. By the end of May 1948, Israel fielded a mobile army of 25,000 front-line troops, a number that would grow to nearly 80,000 by the end of that year. In addition, many Israeli soldiers hadseen combat action during World War II. The Jewish militias exploited their military advantage to consolidate control over their allotted areas, as well as to entrench themselves in some strategic areas allocated to the Arabs of Palestine.
The violent establishment of the state of Israel led more than 500,000 Palestinian Arabs to flee their homes, with many settling in what became known as the “West Bank” (the west bank of the Jordan River). It is a well-documented fact that a systematic massacre of around 245 Palestinians occurred on April 9, 1948 in the village of Deir Yassin . The Irgunand the Stern Gang systematically conducted this and other massacres, such as that at Kafr Qassem , in order to create a general climate of terror that encouraged the unarmed and defenseless Palestinians to flee."

davidylan:

this is a senseless lie. Arabs had already gotten 75% of the land (JORDAN) in 1922, rather than Israel getting the remaining 25%, it was once again split almost halfway to accommodate arab intransigence, intolerance and pure vile nature. Have you ever wondered why jordan is almost 80% palestinian?



Stup[i]i[/i]d. Israel got statehoood because it agreed to the league of nations split. Palestine wasnt denied statehood, it simply refusd its share and chose instead to wipe out the jews so they could annex the entire land to themselves... they lost... deal with it.



Hmmm actually the arab share was unfair. They already got Jordan... then got almost half what was left AGAIN. Unless of course fairness means allah's slaves get everything and others get none.



lol you're a joke...

1. Israel releases tonnes of aid to Gaza on almost a biweekly basis... it hasnt held them for so long and is certainly under no obligation to provide such aid.
2. There is no starvation in Gaza dear... that is a lie from the pit of allah's throne. Have you EVER seen starvation photos from Gaza like we see from places like Somalia or Niger? Shame on you for lying so horribly. Palestinians have a much higher standard of living that Nigerians can ever imagine. I wish we "starved" like palestinians... at least we would be guaranteed food for no work at all.



It may interest you to note that of the 2 flotilla's to Gaza so far... none brought aid at all. you should be more informed before spewing lies here bro.



Jumbled and deliberately misleading nonsense.

1. Israel bans flights INTO Israel. You can fly into Egypt and try getting into Gaza from there... why try to use Israeli airports?

2. Organizations are encouraged to send aid to Ashdod ports where the aid then gets transfered to Gaza for free! The sole reason Gaza wants its ports unchecked is to allow Iran and Syria ship weapons in.

3. Israeli soldiers killed 7 turkish members of a flotilla that brought no aid and attacked unarmed Israeli soldiers first. There are youtube videos that debunk your lie.



So why exactly was Israel attacked in 1967 when its borders did not include Westbank and Gaza?



If this is the case, care to explain to us why virtually NO arab towns existed there prior to 1908? Why are the names all jewish names? Crazy.
Where were these arab palestinians when Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70?



I get tired of educating these islamic goons. 3 States were created - Jordan, Israel and more land for another arab state. The arabs refused in favour of destroying the jews forever.
Too bad they lost as they always will bow down before the Lion of Judah.



All these over a mere stroll? Allah and his goons sure have a great sense of humor.



Sigh. What a dishonest and illiterate fool. Pls use google next time.
Syria is in a permanent state of war with Israel... constitutionally so how exactly does it not pose a threat?
Syria attacked Israel in 1948, 1953 and 1967... WITHOUT the Golan heights issue so what exactly is this fool saying?



I know you're quite slow but you shld research what a tracer is.

Delafruita:

jordan was not created,it was granted independence from the british based on its eisting landmass as at when it was a british protectorate.

davidylan:

I'm a little sleepy but will respond to this in due course... but first of all - this was copied verbatim (indolent liars like you should try to paste the source of your copy-paste job next time) from http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/his_palestine.html

Now that there is a Jordanian government website... yeah and we are supposed to accord some credibility to an article written by a country that has tried to annihilate Israel at least 3 times in the last 60 yrs as objective? I laugh at these fools. Somehow you think you are debating with half-[i]a[/i]ssed yeediots.

Quick question... do you know where the first king of Jordan came from? Yeah i'm sure you're not aware that he had absolutely ZERO ties to Jordan or Palestine and actually was a son of the sheik of Mecca right? Yawn... these ignorant slaves of allah certainly bore you to death.

Delafruita:
the same information is readily available on other websites.i just happened to quote from the king's website.besides king hussein was in support of peace and the rights of isreal and palestine to co-exist.he openly reached out to arafaat and other arab leaders to find a solution.clinton's biography to an extent lets one into a lot of the behind the scene negotiations and tells us why they fail.most of the time due to israel's reluctance to cede land and sometimes due to arafat's reluctance to take a step

Delafruita:
the same information is readily available on other websites.i just happened to quote from the king's website.besides king hussein was in support of peace and the rights of isreal and palestine to co-exist.he openly reached out to arafaat and other arab leaders to find a solution.clinton's biography to an extent lets one into a lot of the behind the scene negotiations and tells us why they fail.most of the time due to israel's reluctance to cede land and sometimes due to arafat's reluctance to take a step

davidylan:

I notice you seem impervious to facts. you just drone on and on about stuff you have very little understanding of. I'm sorry but i could just as well go ahead and quote clearly opposing points of view from the Israeli website as well. Its quite obtuse to think that an article written on the website of the Jordanian government (that attempted to annihilate Israel at least on 3 occasions) is somehow a credible source of information on the Palestinian conflict. Seriously that's quite daft by any standard and betrays your own level of reasoning.

King Hussein may be in "support" of the rights of Israel and Palestine to co-exist but he is just as much a bloviating dunce as most of the arab leaders are. 98% of the population of Jordan is palestinian arab so just who are those sitting in the West Bank who incredibly enough used to be Jordanian citizens until 1967? These are facts you can research but of course i expect you to just ignore them to continue spewing your ignorant crap.

Delafruita:
we got to this point because you wrongly stated that jordan was carved out of the palestine region in 1922.the precursor to modern jordan was founded as the hashemite Emirate, and it was recognized by the League of Nations as a state under the British mandate in 1922 known as The Emirate of Transjordan . In 1946, Jordan became an independent sovereign state officially known as the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan. After capturing the West Bank area of Cisjordan during the 1948–49 war withIsrael, Abdullah I took the title King of Jordan and Palestine, and he officially changed the country's name to the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in April 1949.

mind you,i didnt quote from hussein's website on the palestinian conflict,i quoted on the reason why their is a large population of palestines in jordan i.e. the unification of the naks and subsequent absorbtion of the palestines by jordan

Delafruita:
we got to this point because you wrongly stated that jordan was carved out of the palestine region in 1922.the precursor to modern jordan was founded as the hashemite Emirate, and it was recognized by the League of Nations as a state under the British mandate in 1922 known as The Emirate of Transjordan . In 1946, Jordan became an independent sovereign state officially known as the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan. After capturing the West Bank area of Cisjordan during the 1948–49 war withIsrael, Abdullah I took the title King of Jordan and Palestine, and he officially changed the country's name to the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in April 1949.

mind you,i didnt quote from hussein's website on the palestinian conflict,i quoted on the reason why their is a large population of palestines in jordan i.e. the unification of the naks and subsequent absorbtion of the palestines by jordan

frosbel:

absolutely.

These people will never learn, look at Iran, Saudi, Iraq , Afghanistan where there is total chaos because of these 'terrorists'.

Mind you , this is party that birthed Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban.

The middle east will never be the same again !!!

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So there is total chaos in Saudi? What planet are u from?

davidylan: Oh and a quick note... when next you quote please read to make sure you're not making a fool of yourself. Gilad Shalit was released over 6 months ago so the last 2 paragraphs of your article makes zero sense.