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quid: So, Igbos are Nigerians, but are "foreigners" in Yoruba land not so? This is the kind of warped thinking that is leading Nigeria to the rocks. More grease to your (lack of) rationality.

last time i checked, biafran flag was a foreign flag. U r the ones who choose to mark urselves as foreigners. esp with your pervasive anti-nigerian sentiments. don't get surprised when u r treated as such.
pray for oil to dry up so we can release your land.

MASSOB explodes bomb in IMO state. They were targeting the few northerners in their state. what a dumb move. Let us pray that the northerners do not respond with counter- violence.

https://www.nairaland.com/1317952/bomb-explosion-imo#16142109

quid: Beautiful. Then extend your accomodative nature by keeping quiet.

we are accommodating but not stupid. we need to let the foreigners know their place.

No surprise there. The whole MASSOB organized sit-at-home was clearly a suspicious campaign. esp. since MASSOB is nothing short of a terrorist group trying to compete with Boko Haram.

222Martins: Okay, I was driving down to Nekede Owerri and I observed that the Hausas were running in the direction on the Army barracks.

there are more igbos in d north than there are hausas in d south. so igbos r playing with fire in this one.
things are getting interesting.

quid: Dude, you are not reasoning. I am not trying to insult you. Your prejudices are impinging on your rationality, the end result is this endless repetition of propaganda.

it's just a nigerian flag.no need to get ur panties up in a bunch. just a nice flag in contrast to d ugly biafran flag. it's ok u r allowed to post on nairaland. just as u r allowed to live in lagos.
we SW nigerians are very nice n accomodating like that.

Giiyaz: u don't even knw watz happenin' and u writinq crap!! Biafra ain't creatin' new laws, they jes Declared june 8 as d day to mourn the people Buhari Haram killed in d north!! ABOKI!!

that's why MASSOB stated that they will deal "ruthlessly" with any one who disobeys the sit-at-home rule. yea right.
and why soldiers (no doubt sent in by the igbo state governments) had to come in to prevent ruthless beatings from happening in d streets.
when u make it a law or rule to mourn. how r u different from north korea where d whole country is forced to mourn their dictator or face jail sentence. lol
maybe this is a hint of what's to come under a potential biafran government.

quid: Ah, I forgot to add him ooo...well, I think 99cent can trust him completely.

says d biafrans who turn murderers like Rev King into heroes.

there are good and bad nigerians I will admit that. but nigerians nonetheless.
https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbcvtca8aX1rez643o1_500.jpg


hmm lest I forget. this website is a forum created for nigerians and friends of Nigeria.

quid: At last you have seen the flaw with your "parasitic" argument. Thank goodness.

nice comeback. but seriously, if u really want biafra, then pray for this day to come quick.
https://www.nairaland.com/605684/good-news-nigerias-oil-running

quid: Well, enjoy your Nigeria and allow others be.

you are enjoying Nigeria as well if u are typing from Lagos. at least it seems like it.
same goes for the igbo people who still choose to live in the north despite the violence there. clearly they find it better than living in the SE.

Gold45: Don't forget that the major income of d nation is gotten frm d SE and SS. So if they pull out, they'll go with their natural resources.

yup. this is the main argument for why SE and SS gets the majority of federal allocation.
but when it comes to productive income that isn't derived from natural resources, the north contributes more to nigerian GDP than any other region followed by SW.
OIL is truly the only thing preventing Nigeria from letting biafra go. other than that, most of Nigeria could care less about igbo people. I'm sure igbos people also don't give a crap about Nigerians.

quid: I find your arguments weak and full of inner inconsistencies that you just gloss over. Well, enjoy your Nigeria and allow others be.

if you are dependent on living in the north and SW for your economic success then that is almost like a parasite-host relationship. and this is exactly why hausas have no inceentive to stop killing igbos. all they are doing is putting you in your place and maybe u need to change ur tactic to earn urselves respect among northerners.

closing shop in kano. i'm sure even the hausas will be happy about it. they probably wish more igbos will sit at home. maybe u should try to have a 6-month long sit-at-home in d north. trust me, there will be no killing in that 6-month period. maybe that is the solution.

JaaizTech: I may be wrong but personally i feel south east will be better of remaining with Nigeria. Igbos have always queried what they are benefitting from Nigeria, let me remind them that the huge allocation they receive from FG is largely responsible for whatever their gov. do. Also Igbos benefit a lot from their freedom to do business in all Nigerian cities. without Nigeria things could be harder for Igbo businesses.

the bolded is the unspoken truth in naija. SE and SS get the majority of federal allocation. nobody likes to talk about this. but the facts r there. also 100% of whatever success they boast of, comes from trade outside of their borders. even outside of nigeria in foreign countries sef.

how can a parasite feel that he can turn against his host and succeed. impossible.
this is why even with 1000 sit-at-home. many igbos will still be flocking to the north and south-west.

pleep: i'm having a severe diarrhea of the mouth. it's leaking from both sides

then you need to go back to the zoo, monkey

quid: we are waiting for you to sit-at-home for your murdering terrorists: Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale.

you will wait an eternity for that.
we yorubas are not a whining people.we have enough successful models to make up for the criminal terrorists.

unlike your MASSOB brother sitting-at-home in support of terrorists like Rev. King.
tufiakwa. when tribalism blinds ur eyes to the extent that you are supporting a murderer. then u know that something is wrong.

quid: Please analyze your proposals/arguments very well:
1) Nigeria is one country with many ethnic groups.
2) However, members of each ethnic group should not be seen living in an area belonging to other ethnic groups.
3) Somehow, Nigeria continues to be one country with many ethnic groups.

If you cannot see the fundamental contradictions in your ideas, then I worry for you and your Nigeria indeed.

what you put up there is theory that does not match reality. It's one thing to theorize, it's another think to bring your head back down from above the clouds.
when you have a country with many ethnic groups and only ONE ethnic group decide to be the nomadic tribe. of course that ethic group will feel most of the xenophobia that is completely natural to all ethnic groups.
if you have more hausas and yorubas also leaving their region to live in other areas, they will face the same problem. even in igboland. that's completely normal.

but for you to think that this route is a way to solve the problem. you are lying to youself. all you are doing is making the problem worse.
if you know that you will continue to live in Kano, why do you think that inciting hatred is the best way to reduce tension? keep fooling yourself.

the way I look at the sit-at-home, i'm wondering what plans do igbos have to seceed? are you looking for secession? hence your biafra campaign.
or looking for a way to be able to live safer in Kano among hausa people?

whiners tribe.
so when are you going to be sittting-at-home for the 30+ igbo men rottting away in chinese jails?
or the 5 igbo men shot dead in South Africa?
I am looking forward to that one.

Alfa Seltzer: I am having a severe diarrhea of the mouth. my mouth is leaking from both sides

fixed for you
pack ur load and move away from Kano then you won't need to be honoring any dead. very simple.

quid: Why is it so hard for you to mind ur own affairs? How have you also honored all the victims of boko haram attacks?

by not going around whining about igbo presidency.
aren't u d same person that will come here to whine about igbo presidency yet see no problem in carrying biafra flag in your left hand. if you want to be nigerian let us know. if you want to be biafran, let us know. but you can't be both.
stop d hypocrisy. nothing wrong with "honoring" your dead. but don't make it into a nationalisic/anti-nigerian parade and then come back to whine about how you don't have a igbo president or whine about marginalization.

last time I checked 50 igbo dead bodies washed up a river and u don't see any igbo person saying anything. if it happened in kano or lagos. all hell would have broken loose.
the hypocrisy is getting out of hand.

Erotex: dont trust us ok. We have to honor our beloved ones ok. I dont blame u, sabotuer!!!

how are you honoring the 50 bodies that washed up a river in onisha two months ago?
how are you honoring all the kidnapping and violence victims in d east.
there are more igbo people killed by other igbo people in naija. how r u honoring these dead?

abeg. u can't fool anyone. all these shenanegans ('honoring' someone who died in 2005)is just front for your hatred for Nigeria and its people. u don't fool anybody.

next time, if u hate hausas and yorubas so much. stay in your region. what are you doing in Kano? why did you decide to go and live there?
how many hausas and yorubas do you see living in SE?

igbos are showing us that they cannot be trusted as Nigerians. the more they refuse to resist MASSOB as a fringe terrorist group, the more of a target they are putting on their back.

now i am wondering who in their right mind will vote for an igbo president after all these. they have shown us that they are not loyal to nigeria.

until they gain enough millitary strength to successfully pull out of naija, seems to me that they have decided that they CHOOSE to be second-class citizens.

your choice. deal with the consequences.

Chukskalidon: I was wondering how the 'sit at home' order of a thing came to be...someone should throw more light on that.

MASSOB declared republic of Biafra a few months ago. They are in the process of rolling in new laws. last time, they asked all igbos to pay biafra tax. yesterday, it was "sit-at-home" etc. who knows what will come next but it's all entertaining to watch.
thank God i'm not igbo. and for the igbos who are not resisting this crap, na wa for u o. at least now we know where una stand.

ifechez: today in Onitsha people are observing the sit at home directive from MASSOB.

hmm na wa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocolonialism
neo-colonization is a word coined by Kwame Nkrumah who got schooled on what "free market" was really about. another form of colonization.

THe example of CUBA is a good example of how "free trade" is really just neo-colonization with a fancier name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba

remember the cold war also. a war between capitalist west vs communist east.
what's so "private" about this very obviously political issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whVf5tuVbus

pleep: Concede graciously, are you kidding me look guys... i've given you enough examples, i'm not your fuckin teacher ok?
The way you people are behaving is going to make this discussion go left very fast.

What more could you want: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Indian_Railway_Company That was a british joint-stock company that built railroads all across India, privately financing everything.

At this point, take it or leave it.

you are sounding dumber and dumber by the minute.
ever heard of something called colonization? or are you now confusing colonization with "free market"?

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The Boston Tea Party (referred to in its time simply as "the destruction of the tea" or by other informal names and so named until half a century later) was a political protest by the Sons of Liberty in Boston, a city in the British colony of Massachusetts, against the tax policy of the British government and the East India Company that controlled all the tea imported into the colonies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

omg. r u now planning to get married to her? when you haven't even asked her out yet.
i think it's time for you to just move on. or aren't there any women in ur area? this whole story is getting ridiculous. jeez

maybe it isn't all about capitalism. maybe religion, culture, work ethic, history etc all play a larger role than so called 'invisible hand'
capitalism itself is argued to have emerged out of dutch Calvinism in 1600s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_Spirit_of_Capitalism

capitalism. the main word there is capital. ie pooling/mobilization of resources. this is best done by government or at least a powerful organization or company that has the permission of the govt ie charter to become a monopoly. the earliest ones in d west were chartered companies and they used stocks to build capital. they were also responsible for most of the colonization that took place all over d world by western nations. these were "private companies" that started the slave trade.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_West_India_Company

^ yea summer time is when those unemployed busy bodies are most restless. violence peaks during this season.
May God protect us. RIP to Mr. Okoroh.

the invisible hand making all things work out for good Ah even the 'scientists' are now believing in the supernatural.
voodoo economics as it is called.

[img]http://greenewable.files./2008/10/invisiblehand.jpg?w=359[/img]

the origin of the internet can be traced to the US Department of Defense.
this is so called technology Africa is falling behind in. In USA most of the breakthroughs come from govt funded research and development. NOT private sector. esp. if you trace the source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET

adconline: Also name one country where 100% free economy is practiced?

haha don't mind d clown. 100% free market= anarchy.
imagine the fool is talking about railroad. railroad is the prime example of govt project.

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Most of the engineers and surveyors who figured out how and where to build the railroad on the Union Pacific were usually engineering college trained Union Army veterans who had learned their railroad trade keeping the trains running and tracks maintained during the U.S. Civil War working for the U.S. Military Railroad (USMRR) which was established by the United States War Department as a separate agency to operate and repair any rail lines needed by the Union army or seized by the government from the Confederate States of America railroads during the American Civil War. Nearly all of the Union and Confederate armies were supported and transported by extensive rail networks which had to be built up, protected and repaired as the armies advanced and retreated. Most key workers and supervisors were trained by previous on-the-job training and knew what needed to be done and how to direct workers to get it done. Most of the semi-skilled workers on the Union Pacific were recruited from the many discharged Union Army and Confederate Army veterans and emigrant Irishmen escaping poverty and famine in Ireland.[7]

The Central Pacific had the same financial incentives the Union Pacific as well as some construction bonds that were granted by the state and the city of San Francisco. The Central Pacific hired engineers and surveyors who had extensive experience and training building railroads and knew what needed to be done and how to supervise others to get it done. The Central Pacific, facing a semi-skilled labor shortage, relied on some black employees[8] escaping the slavery and turmoil of the American Civil War and many emigrant Chinese manual laborers for construction. Most of these Chinese emigrants were escaping the poverty and terrors of the Taiping Revolution in the Kwangtung province in China. Supervisory, engineering and skilled jobs were done with "white" workers including a lot of Irishmen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Transcontinental_Railroad

pleep: "the civil war was about industrilization" what the hell? If anything, both the south and north benefited from industrilization. The cotton gin improved productivity of southern plantations, enabling them to expand and export to Europe, while industrilization helped to north develop a manufacturing industry, as well as a textile industry that benefited from the south's increased output.

... the civil war was about states rights, power dynamics and slavery kiddo, Go read a damn book. It is by force you must comment here

the civil war was between industrial north and agricultural south. The south rejected the mass industrial factories and move into cities. They insisted on rural farm life blindly assuming that cotton is King and that industry wouldn't survive without the south. Yes of course they profited from the industry up north but they overestimated their own necessity.

u need to read up on ur history. if it were all about free markets and invisible hands, there would have been no need for a war. "states rights" is just another political fight over ECONOMICS. and of course, the industrial north won that war.

the reality of the USA would be very different had the south won. the industrial revolution most likely wouldn't have happened at the moment when it did.