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here's another one by another crazy igbo ofe-nkita dude who can't get it into his thick skull that religion ain't a problem in SW
https://www.nairaland.com/1287752/lagos-ever-christian-governor

Adejoro74: Lagos ranked 4th world’s worst City

typical behavior from ur kind. at the end of the day, u are typing from lagos. go back to your SE village if lagos is a problem for u.

Katsumoto: They are aware of that and thats why these topics are cropping up. You will find that the said individuals are disingenuously trying to poison the minds of people in the South-West by high-lighting the religion of the Governors in the West.

gbam!!

dridowu: Religion is the least of our challenge in SW, we dont vote base on religion............................we vote based on our future. So morafvker shd tell us that na fish dy inside sardine

luvmijeje: Mtcheew, they should just stop that nonsensical religion politics. I don't mind voting for a sango worshipper as far he is tested and proven not those using the name of God to steal from the people.

saxywale: Who cares about their religious orientation. I would rather have 1 fashola to 100 bode George.

apparently, the igbos feel otherwise. dunno why they're carrying our "problem" on their head.

Adejoro74: You village urchin. Abiodun Fagbemi the lead reporter is your fellow stupid Yoruba man.

U dumb f$ck. Abiodun Fagbemi is reporting from Ilorin where the population is 99% muslim. The igbo dude is reporting for Lagos so clearly he has an agenda. What's the igbo dude's obsession with yoruba muslims in lagos? My quote was about lagos. the article is mostly focused on lagos and all of it was written by the crazy igbo dude.

here is another thread from a while ago on the same topic where Afam4ever n his igbo friends were getting their panties in a bunch over a "problem" that does not concern them

https://www.nairaland.com/582273/lagos-state-politicians-mostly-moslem

another one
https://www.nairaland.com/1287752/lagos-ever-christian-governor

Orange peel covered in dark chocolate is not only delicious but good for you

WHAT!

next, we will be advised to start eating tree barks because it's nutritious.

another st[size=1pt].[/size]upid article by a dumb poster.

this stupid article is written by a silly igbo man (Kenechukwu Ezeonyejiaku)
Obasanjo was a christian. what exactly is the point of this article? does he wish for yoruba christians and muslims to fight one another? how many yoruba pastors do u see going into politics? unlike pastor Chris Okotie (igbo) running stupidly for president every year like a desperate clown. you have people like pastor Adeboye (yoruba) having the president kneeling before him.

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that's just a symptom of being black. can someone spell dysfunctional

r.i.d.i.c.u.l.o.u.s

I checked the topics in this romance section and the ratio of "why do women" vs "why do men" questions is 4:1.
the ultimate question is why do men feel that they have authority over how women should dress, behave, marry, act,eat, sleep, drink, poop, pee, cross the street, breathe or exist!!
this is not a sharia country abeg. if u want ur sister wearing a hijab covering from head to toe, move to saudi arabia. and then u can stone her to death if she sits down without crossing her leg. *roll eyes*

Lordlexy: You come across as a hate. Is the church your govt? Does the church owe you? The fact that they decided to make public their community didn't subject them to any explaination. Even after detail explaination, unrepentant haters like you showing contempt to anything the church will always find occation to bring further accusation as that is your stock in trade. I know churches who carry out similar humanitarian project without making it public. My friend purge of hatred, it could be harmful.

dumb post. If I pay tithe and offering I have a right to know where the church money goes. It's called transparency. my church posts every sunday how much offering/tithe is collected and what the money is used for (building maintenance, clergy salaries, mission work, community work, charity etc). granted I live in the USA but still it is your kind of mentality that allows nigerian leaders (whether political or religious) to be corrupt. they are not held accountable to their followers so they use congregation money as they wish. I personally DO NOT pay tithe to the church. I already pay taxes to the govt. My church isn't building my roads so why should I pay 10% of my salary to it.I like my church and what it does for the congregation so I give offering. but no tithe. I will rather donate money to charity directly and volunteer to the community directly rather give money blindly to a church without knowing or agreeing with what they are using it for.

it doesn't help that churches in naija collect more money from people than govt collects in taxes (like middle ages in Europe). so by that fact, churches should be building more for the community considering how much money they make. BILLIONS. how do u think they afford private jets? even many politicians can't affort jets.

so should we 'ban' indecent dressing and impose sharia law dressing code? (although only women are punished for their clothing. very characteristic of a undeveloped country where women are treated as 2nd class citizens)

look at all these indecently dressed people roaming around Nigeria
https://www.ebushpilot.com/images/ng-chld2_5.jpg
https://www.ebushpilot.com/images/ng-chld7_4o.jpg

lol @ comments.

i'm a feminist and sure proud to be one. go and hug a transformer or jump off a bridge if ur mad
ur obsessive paranoia is entertaining to say the least. feminists have existed since the beginning of time and we will exist until d day gender equality reaches a balance or tips over. deal with it

I just found out yesterday that OBJ is igbo.

^ the ugly face of a serial killer, r.apist. how many young girls have u abused? what a sadist.

the argument that igbos flee their region because igbo land is too competitive always makes me chuckle
yea me too I fled nigeria for USA because nigeria is too competitive

this serial killer/r.apist is still posting.
there should be an alert on nairaland.

ono: Here, you've merely buttressed Tim's views that the type of corruption prevalent in Nigeria knows no class. From the cleaner that helps clean my desktop computer and my other gadget and frequently asks for ''something'', to uncle GEJ and PDP cronies in Abuja, milking the country dry, corruption is rife, endemic.

well that's because we are HUMAN. All humans are predisposed to corruption in absense of law enforcement. regardless of class OR nationality.
the guy didn't claim to be corrupt free himself did he? I'm sure he most have paid or received some bribe here and there throughout his stay otherwise, he would have left a long time ago.
even british companies are implicated in HUGE corrruption scandals in Nigeria. and guess what, the british law enforcement agencies are investigating it. If only Nigeria had functioning law enforcement agencies.

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/British-Police-Investigating-1.3-Billion-Shell-ENI-Nigerian-Oil-Bloc-Corruptio.html
http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-currents/2010/12/21/halliburton-says-it-will-pay-35-million-to-settle-nigeria-bribery-charges/


I love how you talk about your cleaner or your co-worker or your boss or uncle GEJ but nobody on this thread has yet to talk about themselves or point finger at themselves. hahahhaahah u think you are the exception to the article?
everyone in Nigeria is corrupt except you? if only nigerians could change their ways except you? LOL

ono: Good. In this one, we agree. So, law enforcement in Nigeria at the moment is NOT one of the solutions to the problem of the country.

so you are looking for quick easy simple solution? keep looking
Law enforcement is the only way out and it's going to take a long process.

look at the situation in USA with wall street, new technology and consequent lack of regulation (law enforcement!) caused the finance system to be open to rife corruption and therefore it led to a recession. if you have no one there to police you (whether social policing or legal policing), you will do whatever you can to make the most profit. this applies to all humans including you! and those unqualified british expats looking for easy way to make a lot of money in a foreign country.

Youtube will not exist today if not for "corruption". It was blatantly infringing on copyright laws but technology was on itside and the legal system hasn't developed a way to police technology yet hence why it was able to get away with it. Most people (including myself) download stuff "illegally" today etc. that explains how corruption starts and becomes pervasive. no youth in america today sees "illegal" downloads as a big deal. everyone does it. I do it. govt isn't going to arrest you for it. there is no law enforcement because the law is far behind on learning how to police such new technology etc when they shut down one site, another one comes up. someone creates a new software or hack that makes it easy again. govt can't keep up. etc so should I stop downloading music illegally in order to "end corruption"? of course I won't because it will not make a dent. it will make no sense. why should I go out and buy an album when I can get it though a torrent for free? or use a software that automatically downloads music from websites. u see where i'm going with this?

law enforcement is the only solution. there is no other way around it. People are not saints. not even if they are from the least corrupt country in d world. it is only law enforcement and regulation that can check corruption.

I see ur point. it's fine to appreciate what he wrote. I also do. but I just didn't agree with the pessimistic view that Nigeria will forever remain corrupt.

ono: Law enforcement will NOT work in Nigeria - at least, for now. Lets not deceive ourselves. I don't even need to go about explaining anything on this one.

can you explain why u think law enforcement will not work?
i think it will take decades. it won't be an overnight transformation.

falsifying a CV (I don’t mean enhancing, I mean pretending you’re a Lead Piping Engineer of 12 years experience when actually, until yesterday, you were a fisherman);

this is an example where lack of enforcement comes into play. I live in the USA and i've heard of stories of people falsifying their resumes. I mean these are CEOS of top companies. these stories are rare and tend to date to the pre-90s when technology wasn't as advanced. Basically if you are not cross-checking CVs and resumes and calling to confirm what is written on it, then it becomes a free for all!! people who are desperate enough to find a job will do whatever it takes to get ajob even if it means faking a resume. that's just a human trait.

In fact, at resume building gatherings, job seekers are ENCOURAGED to "enhance" pad or exagerrate their CV. but there is a limit because the company can always call the former employer to confirm what you wrote so you can't be too far off from the truth. hence this fear of law enforcement keeps you in check.

It's not necessarily nature but mostly nurture and incentives. do u get punished for breaking the rules or get rewarded? that determines whether you will break the rule again. at least I feel this applies to most people irrespective of nationality.

nigerian teachers who sit in their staff room buying and selling merchandise rather than teaching students in d classroom.are they corrupt? sure. but why are they doing what they are doing? they will be the first to point the finger at the govt for being corrupt but they also are corrupt but they rationalize their corruption because they are not getting paid their monthly salaries etc. that makes perfect rational sense hence why corruption will never go away until we have proper enforcement of laws concerning salaries, supervision, oversight etc. even those who are corrupt will not feel guilt. the police man collecting bribe to feed his family. do u expect him to feel guilt?
or maybe a politician who sees other politicians making money. of course he too will naturally feel he has the right to similar treatment like his peers. it's sad but reality.
same goes with the unqualified british expat who takes the job because he knows he can get away with it.

ono: Personally, I have never seen a coherent, thorough, graphic description of the socio-cultural and political write up about Nigeria, that's so well written by someone from another country.

I've read more coherent, objective write ups about the problem of corruption in Nigeria by foreigners. Infact, i've taken classes in international studies where i've been lectured about corruption in Nigeria by an american and foreign professionals. so maybe that's why I have a different perspective than you. It gets boring after a while, repetitive and some can be borderline offensive. not in the sense that there isn't corruption in Nigeria but the idea that a Nigerian is just inherently corrupt therefore it is ok to do certain questioable things because Nigerians are abnormal cases.

It's very interesting though because the stories u hear from these expat workers in oil and gas industries, finance etc are always different from the stories u hear from those who work in Nigeria in less structured environments ex rural areas, ngos, churches etc. these folks tend to make personal friends and have positive experiences that somehow manage to balance out the negatives. the armchair expats who fly into fancy hotels, never spend a day with a nigerian, get scammed a lot by nigerians trying to take advantage of them tend to be most disparaging.

u will even read in the write up where he says that he has a curfew and that it is impossible for expats do have fun activities or do things outside of work. this is absolutely false. this is a self imposed curfew as far as i'm concerned. and just his own biased opinion.because there are tons of expats who don't hole themselves up like that.

The guy also expressed his displeasure at the way ''expats'' who are not qualified in the first place troop into the country, while our people who are half decent and capable are relegated to the background or ''locked'' up somewhere. In that section he did provide a way out of this. He stated that people should be ''tested'' to check their suitability for a job or otherwise. That's solution enough. He probably couldn't fathom a solution to our other ''bigger'' corruption problems because it has defied all logical reasoning and he's so amazed at how we have come to embrace this in the country.

remember that he is an expat himself. therefore what he is doing is pretty much making the expat problem one into one that has a solution. and then painting the "nigerian problem" as one that has no solution.
to me the solution to corruption as we know it is simply LAW ENFORCEMENT. and that is the same solution to the corruption of hiring unqualified expats who take the job anyway even thought they know they aren't qualified because every human being is is inherently greedy. Not just Nigerians.
other countries just happen to have better law enforcement that stops people from taking advantage of the rules.
He himself did not deny anywhere that he didn't partake in corrupt acts.

Lagosbabe1: This is delusion of the highest order! when did Yorubas beg Ibos to come back?

So you openly admit that Ibos ran away from Lagos during the mayhem of 1993? I thought Yorubas are the cowards? So you left your businesses and houses in Ikoyi, VI and Lekki in 1993?

I was going to post that she has some psychological problems that need to be checked.
hahahahahaha I am trying to imagine anyone begging igbos to come to their land but I can't. it's just an impossible idea for me to imagine
I think she meant yorubas were begging igbos to go back to their land. and made a typo

^ igbos do their spare part biz in lagos just the same way mexicans do their migrant farming biz in USA.
we don't have a problem with u. just don't abuse ur accommodation.

my dad lived a few yrs in maiduguri btw. he had nothing but fond memories of his stay there.

ngozievergreen: what do they know?
Sometimes i ask some of dem on dis forum, Aside lagos dat houses igbos, yorubas and all, where exactly in SW can compare to SE? None.
There are no cities in Sw that are as comely and fine as Enugu and Owerri.
No city with the creativity of Aba in d Sw.
No economically viable capital/non- capital city as Onitsha and Nnewi.
No Villages in SW have better houses than SE? The only state making sense in SW is a place that was least developed by the yorubas. Aside d State civil service,
what other sectors in Lagos are exclusively a yoruba sector?
Lagos was developed with cocoa my foot. And now, who ate all the cocoa?
Sw devt died with Awolowo.

all that na wash. no one cares. great as ur so called east is, majority of u will rather live in slum of lagos than live in ur so called enugu "japan of africa"
yea. that says a lot.

besides I don't see enugu, owerri or even so called onitsha on any international city lists. lagos, ibadan, portharcourt, abuja etc shows up all the time. seeing as u like to blow ur trumpet, no one else is agreeing with u in ur claims.

Lagos was developed with cocoa my foot. And now, who ate all the cocoa?
Sw devt died with Awolowo.

it was initially developed with cocoa in colonial days. and that was not exclusively a yoruba sector.
even americans invite immigrants to help them provide cheap labor why else would america be so great?
we acknowledge ur help. than u very much.
in fact, u will be welcome to come and provide cheap labor for atlantic city project when it opens. I know it's a huge offer u cannot turn down. I can already picture igbo folks in onitsha ffighting each other over who will come to atlantic city first
at the end of the day, u will forever live with the FACT that u live in SW and there is nothing u can do about it. it ain't ur region.

Biafra diplomat: It's obvious you're overestimating your IQ, that they have stayed donkey years in Lagos does not mean they can't speak Igbo, do not bear Igbo names, do not look like Igbos or would not identify with their kit and kin, remember they all do business together and attend town meetings together. Mind you nobody is instigating any war but when pushing gets to shoving everybody would answer his fathers name.

u are the dumb one here. less than 3 in 10 igbo people i've met who were BORN and RAISED in lagos can barely speak igbo. and they definitely do not attend igbo town meetings. On the other hand, they are watching just as much yoruba movies and attending owambe parties and eating as much amala as me.

go and re-think ur strategies.

Biafra diplomat: there are many Igbos that were born in Lagos who have never been to the east since they were born

be exceedingly glad if u can recruit a few psychos amongst them to join ur cause.

ALTRUTH:
And do you have proof that they don't pay taxes?

if they don't, they should
i'm sure some of them have. the responsible citizens among them.

Siga: This is so embarrassing and sad.... When will things change?

http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/ID/2402356609/

sooo sad. my eyes welled up for the woman.
Who knows, those embassy workers probably aren't getting paid regular monthly salaries.

reminds me of secondary school in Naija where the teachers barely get paid so they come to school and sit around to talk and sell clothes and accessories amongst each other rather than teach class. When they do come to class they complain about how they are teaching out of pity and they are not being paid to do so. even there are those we pray that they never show up because all they do is bring their anger and frustration to the classroom. were they corrupt? should I blame them? I don't know. but the situation clearly is messed up.

the police officers taking bribes in d street, chances also are that they can barely afford to feed their family. Otherwise, then definitely they are the fiend of the devil.