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masseratti:
let me ask you a question, if war breaks out now or the country split, will you leave your money on Nigerian banks or withdraw them all before you leave. Events then was well documented Igbo's left enmass,withdrew their money from the bank,after the war everyone those who had and those who did not have money at the bank were given 20pounds,now tell me anywhere in history was that done to the losing side.

Nigeria changed their currency. All Igbos were given £20
regardless of how much pre-war NIGERIAN currency they had. That is CRUEL!!

Look well. This is politics section not religion

Ovamboland:
And biafra policy of love for Nigeria includes killings by bombing Lagosians watching a movie at Casino cinema, Yaba and setting off car bombs all over Lagos in terrorist attacks.

Ojukwu's aim was to create conditions that will encourage or give the west the excuse to secede or overthrow Gowon. His aim was never to conquer the west or he will never have picked Banjo of all people.

Kobicove:
Too skinny...she needs to add more meat to her bones

Yeah, someone needs to buy her some food.

T9ksy:
Yes Awo did but the sl.imy Zik whilst chanting One Nigeria and pan Africanism presided over a wholly tribal union long before

Awo's Egbe omo oduduwa came to fruition. I suggest you google Zik's first year anniversary speech of the Ibo state union in 1949, then come

back and tell me if that speech was meant for the sole benefit of ALL nigerians or just his own tribal affiliation.

My brother, nobody has ever tried to equate Zik with Awo when it comes nationalism. They were not in the same league at all. Not even close. Zik was clearly thinking Africa while Awo was thinking Ibadan. As Unongo rightly said Zik started in US, thinking Africa. While Awo started in UK, thinking Oduduwa. Zik's paper was called "West African Pilot". Awo's paper would have been "Ibadan Pilot".

WetinConsignMe:
TIME. TIME TIME. Time changes everything. US was in depression not even recession. A black person was automatically a slave. But look at them today. I have a feeling that if Nigeria stays together, it will happen like magic, but one day people will be surprised to realise they now see themselves more as Nigerians and less as Hausa, Yoruba, etc. It is already happening in sports.

The BIG difference is that in US all the major groups have only one language - English. In the Nigeria all the major groups have different languages. Language barriers are hard to overcome

VillageWinch:
I never knew it was EVER possible for a non-tribesman to actually win a vote in any tribe in Nigeria. In That sense those Yorubas were to be commended

Yeah, ok. But then what happened. When it came time to actually hand power to the non-indigene they just couldn't do it. They quickly reverted back to tribalism and have never looked back since.

WetinConsignMe:
A very good point. But they still needed a small push to actually abandon Zik's party and Awo was the person that gave that push.

People, Awo was always thinking tribe, unlike Zik. He never quite bought into that one Nigeria stuff until Gowon promised presidency once the war was won.
Remember he formed Egbe omo Oduduwa way back. Not Egbe omo Nigeria.

Blue3k:
Nah its just funny listening to it. Wouldn't be surprised at latter.

It is a typical case of law of attraction: you attract what you fear. He was terrified Igbos would take over and get him. Sure enough an Igbo got him.

WetinConsignMe:
That's basically human nature: bragging about something you couldn't do. Awo was never in any position to be able to make the West secede. You couldn't secede without the military and the few senior Yoruba officers were one-Nigeria.

Even Banjo Nzeogwu Ironsi Ifeajuna were all against break up, even Ojukwu himself till the war. In short all senior military were one Nigeria.

Blue3k:
Wow he'd rather higher a non citizen than Igbo. Lol shows he wasn't about merit first among citizens.

1. Best northerner
2. Best expatriate
3. Best non northern nigerian.

While someone like Zik was all about one Nigeria, even one Africa. I wonder what Ahmadu Bello must have been thinking when he heard Zik saying all that.

You can fool some people some of the time...
This guy couldn't be fooled

WetinConsignMe:
This is why he couldn't keep his promise. Note the bolded.


Why Awo did not make West to Secede

VANGUARD
26 SEP 2017
By Eric Teniola

ON May 1, 1967 at a meeting of Leaders of thought of Western Region, Chief Obafemi Awolowo made the following declarations:
“I consider my duty to Yoruba people in particular and to Nigerians in general to place four imperatives, two of them categorical, and two conditional:

(1) Only a peaceful solution must be found to arrest the present worsening stalemate and restore normalcy.

(2) The Eastern Region must be encouraged to remain part of the Federation

(3). If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt of Nigeria, then Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation.

(4) The people of Western Nigeria or Lagos would participate in the Ad hoc Constitutional Committee or any similar body only on the basis of absolute equality with other Region of the Federations”.

It was the gravest statement made by any leader in Nigeria at a crucial time.
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The question is why did the Western Region not follow the Eastern Region when it seceded on May 30, 1967?

The Daily Sketch which published in full Chief Awolowo’s speech on May 2, 1967 sold in Enugu at two shillings per copy which is more equivalent of today’s six hundred naira. The speech was a hot cake.

Then there was the argument that the fate of the Yorubas in Ilorin and Kabba provinces at that time was not properly addressed in that speech considering the political influence of Chief Josiah Sunday Olawoyin (1935-2000) and later leaders like Chief Cornelius Olatunji Adebayo (76), my friend Chief Ayo Opadokun and Dr. Abubakar Olusola Saraki (1933-2012).

It is a pity that Chief Awolowo did not publish his memoirs before he died in a domestic accident in his hometown of Ikenne in Ogun state in the early hours of May 9, 1987. Maybe he would have shed more light on why he made those declarations.

I personally believe till today that it was that speech that took the Federal Capital from Lagos, although events have proved later that taking the Federal Capital out of Lagos does not equate with taking commerce out of Lagos- thanks to Chief Bola Tinubu and his successors.

Chief Awolowo’s speech stunned the nation. It was a wakeup call on General Yakubu Dan-Yuuma Gowon (83), the Head of State at that time to prepare for war and save Nigeria. If Chief Awolowo had taken Western Region and Lagos out of Nigeria, it would have been suicidal...

If Chief Awolowo had taken Western Region and Lagos out of the Federation at that time definitely Western Region and Lagos would have been the battle ground. And where were the troops and how prepared was he for a major war. At the time he made those declarations, officers of the Western Region in the Nigerian Army were less than 7%. At that time Lagos, Ibadan and Abeokuta garrisons were occupied by ‘northern troops’. Even the then Governor of Western Region, Major General Adeyinka Adebayo was not prepared for war. Chief Awolowo admitted on May 1, 1967 speech, that ‘We have neither the military might, nor the overwhelming advantage of numbers here in Western Nigeria and Lagos...'

So why was he running his mouth over a promise he knew he couldn't keep?
Ok, I didn't know this. Maybe he can be excused, but only on this point. Lalasticlala, Myd44

WetinConsignMe:
I actually think these were very great men, except maybe Ahmadu Bello, for his extremely divisive utterances. Awo didn't hate Igbos or anybody. I don't think he was even a tribalist as such, rather a pragmatist.

So why do you think he didn't secede as he promised Ojukwu. Because he loved Igbos so much?

DanseMacabre:
Bro, was it out of Awo's unconditional love for the Igbos that he brought about the infamous ten pounds policy to reimburse them after the war, even those that had millions in the bank?


Awo was a staunch tribalist, just a highly intellectual and stealthy one.

And his extreme love for Igbos introduced "starvation is a legitimate weapon of war". Gerarahia

Happy birthday Fela

Na wa o

ChangeIsCostant:
quite unfortunate

Unfortunate my foot. How can u MISTAKENLY shoot THREE people?

GistMore:
@GistMorecom

No fewer than 15 people were killed after two suicide bombers attacked residents of Konduga community in Borno state this morning. The victims were filing to receive some aids when the suicide bombers struck.

“There were twin suicide explosions at 11:10 am (1010 GMT) in Mashalari village (near Konduga), which killed 15 and left 43 others injured,” a rescue worker said

The bodies of the victims have been taken to the morgue while the injured ones have been rushed to the.

More Gist @ http://www.gistmore.com/15-die-suicide-bombers-attack-konduga-community-borno-state

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TheLordIsGr8:
"we are all humans" yet you want the military to "settle this".

Look for another letter to replace that D. I recommend "Dehumanized". Fits you better.

I think he means presidency not military

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Since the vast majority of us agree that the country needs restructuring, we hereby invite you to please state your ideas on how the country is to be restructured. The following write-up is by aforementioned Mr. Chukazu. You don't have to read all of it. Just state your own ideas or comment on his ideas.
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Going by the recent clamoring from different parts of the country for a complete restructuring of the country, I have always wondered what exactly we hope to achieve by such exercise? 

With due respect to the opinions of all, I hereby propose a way forward. 

POLITICAL REALIGNMENT 
Our over bloated political system is totally none sustainable, we must as a matter of urgency scrap the current system of the NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ;it's of no benefit to an average Nigerian going by the budget we spend on each member of the assembly,the nation of Senegal just disengaged it Legislature and we certainly can do better 

A) lawmaking should be voluntary, anybody that cannot volunteer to make law without been paid is not worthy.. Currently Nigerian lawmakers are the highest paid in the world 
The present system is too lopsided and unjust, I mean a situation where two states from the North have more house of representatives members than the entire South East region can not stand 

B) talk about been worthy... How do we justify individuals (Our legislatures) who have never been to law school, making laws for trained lawyers((the judiciary) to interpret 

PRESIDENCY 
We must devolve power from the executive to the states or regions as the case may be 
Our presidency should be ceremonial 

A) out of the six geo-poilitcal zones, let's experiment with a single president ably assisted by" five vice presidents "from the five remaining geo-political zones to address cry of marginalization, I mean each region in Nigeria can stand alone as an independent nation, so why don't we give everyone a say and a sense of belonging? 

B) the current" four years of two terms " is way too much, why don't we do a" five years "single term for our political office holders ? 
Anybody that cannot make an impact within five years tenure is already a failure so why dash someone eight years to waste 

INEC : 
Our major problem as it relates to elections lies with INEC. 
to have a competent and credible elections,firstly we must make politics totally unattractive... Have always imagined what would happen if tell all our politicians to go ahead and become president, governors, Senators, local government chairman; without collecting salaries, how many of them would still come and tell us they want to serve

INEC must have the option for independent candidates, I mean if someone is required to pay as much as 5 million Naira to buy a party form for gubernatorial election, how do we expect such individual not to steal and recover his money 

A) politicians should have the least pay of all public office holders 

B) our politicians should have no access or power over the treasury 

C) once it approaches time for elections; every political office holder, from president to local government chairman should resign from office three months to election date and a caretaker interim leaders be appointed to serve for the period of election so as to avoid the "power of incumbency" which has bedeviled our polity, that is how it is presently done in Sri Lanka 

* MINISTERIAL CONDUCT 
No public officials, especially ministers should be allowed to send their wards abroad for studies (they will be forced to modernize education system) 

No public officials be allowed to use generator as alternative power source (no choice but to make our epileptic power work) 

No official be allowed to get treatment abroad regardless of the illness 

* ECONOMY 

Stop every exploration of crude oil and focus on human capital development.. Invest in ICT, the nation of Isreal is making more than Twenty billion dollars annually from technology driven start-ups, second only to the Silicone Valley in the US while the likes of oil rich Saudi Arabia is struggling to restructure it economy due to heavy drop in crude oil prices 

We need to build at least one Mega City for each geo-political zone; that was the initial plan between world Bank and federal government, which obviously started with Lagos but currently no one knows what happened to Ibadan, Enugu and Kano that were supposed to commence after Lagos 
That is the only way we can address over dependence on Lagos with unbearable "rural urban" drift 
With the rate of wide economic gap between the North and the South, am actually scared we don't become like North Korean /South Korea example.. The South has built and modernized it economy but the North Koreans have become a constant terror treat, always threatening the South with missile and Even Nuclear weapons, it already happening with BOKO HARAM ... 

So for our economic managers, it behooves on them to implement an all inclusive, all in compassing economic policy so that Lagos doesn't become a center of excellence while the rest of the nation wallow in poverty 

RAILWAY TRANSPORTATION 
Total overhaul of our Railway system, with speed train instead of the Locomotive train currently on ground, I mean someone should be able to live in Ibadan and be coming to work in Lagos on board a train that would spend nothing more than 1hr/30 minutes to two hours 

* INDUSTRY 
Every Geo-political zone should have a FREE TRADE EXPORT PROCESSING ZONE that is not based on politics but purely on comparative advantage, to avoid the type of "AJAOKUTA EXPERIENCE" 

* POWER GENERATION :

The concept of "national grid" should be totally expunged from our system 
Every state should set a target of nothing less than 1, 000 MEGA WATTS of electricity generation, within a five years meticulous planning- starting with yearly 200MEGA WATTS, with that in less than ten years we have more than 30, 000, MEGA WATTS from 36 states... This is no rocket science naa

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We already know a tried structure that worked for us.The late 50s and early 60s were gpod

Ok

Nonsense

These people will simply take advantage

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Thanks for the invite.
Just so u know, I am no fan of:
Buhari
Nigerian Army
Nigerian police
I have seen don dan posts. If this is some camouflaged pro-Buhari stunt, count me out

attackgat:
Well you better have plan B because the North will never let Nigeria be restructured and Nigeria cannot be restructured without Northern support.

So u think secession is easier. With time restructure will come. We just keep working at it.

amywonda:
I would like to know the basis of your conclusion, seeing that , the clothes on your back is probably made by the white, the device u used in replying is made by the white, in fact 90 % of the things around u at this point is probably made by the white man...

Who's gene is dominant? Who is stronger? Better at sports. More sexually endowed? More physically endowed. The things u mentioned are not exclusively by whites.

amywonda:
We are our biggest problems in black Africa, that includes all of us not just the leaders, the leaders can't solve all the problems faced by the populace. What have the intellectuals and scientists amongst us done to improve the plight of the masses? for crying out loud we import fuel and toothpick, lol.. if the answer is not in our biology as blacks then its in our soul, I have come to the conclusion that the black man is definitely different from the white man and I don't mean skin color alone .

You are right. The black man is SUPERIOR!

attackgat:
If thread had been something negative about Nnamdi Kanu, by now, it would have reached the 5th page.


Here we have a thread about Oduduwa Republic, it is still on the first page and all the westerners have virtually all disappeared

Well here I am, saying I don't support them. Restructure, yes! Oduduwa, NO!!!

Can we all just stop the nonsense. Live and let live!

Can we all please just try to get along