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truthman2012:
Muhammad said he saw allah too.

ZoranderGraeme:
If you aren't going about shouting camel piss you're busy with other comic acts. I don't blame you, if my parents named me oremu I'd probably be a bitter person too.

AllNaijaBlogger:
Okay. I'm sorry.


BUT I have to admit that I eat popcorn every time I.feann and E.mpiree get together. The drama is great.

xreal:
Nice photoshopping.

If that ever happens, terror in the world will be more financed and easily spread and executed than ever.

AllNaijaBlogger:
It seems you and your cohorts do not understand the issue at hand. I have never been a fan of Bernard Shaw and so should any sensible religious person.

Lo and behold, I find Empiree trying to use Bernard Shaw to praise islam. That is the issue. E.mpiree's ignorance and later deceit on who Bernard Shaw is.

AllNaijaBlogger:
Bernard Shaw-

"Islam is very different, being ferociously intolerant. What I may call Manifold Monotheism becomes in the minds of very simple folk an absurdly polytheistic idolatry, just as European peasants not only worship Saints and the Virgin as Gods, but will fight fanatically for their faith in the ugly little black doll who is the Virgin of their own Church against the black doll of the next village. When the Arabs had run this sort of idolatry to such extremes … they did this without black dolls and worshipped any stone that looked funny, Muhammad rose up at the risk of his life and insulted the stones shockingly, declaring that there is only one God, Allah, the glorious, the great… And there was to be no nonsense about toleration. You accepted Allah or you had your throat cut by someone who did accept him, and who went to Paradise for having sent you to Hell. Muhammad was a great Protestant religious force, like George Fox or Wesley"




@ Lanrexlan and Empiree, I was not the one who used an atheist to praise my religion. Learn not to be dishonest

-- Bernard Shaw

Those above should give you more headache than his 'invalid' comment about Islam

Empiree:
Okay, we found two difference quotes attributed to a man. I found one that favors muslims but you criticized it. You said it is lie.

Now you found another quote about islam that is not favorable to muslims and you accepted it. Question is, is it okay for me also to disparage this post (quote) of yours? And say you lie, too?


For me, it's all irrelevant. You are the one having sleepless night over this. You better sleep well and dont hype your blood over islam man

iliyande:
Muslims Allah is in konji shape

SporaD8:
Most Muslims in Nigeria are not even aware it is that Stone in kab bah they bow to when they face Northeast during prayers. Not until they go on pilgrimage and see how faithfuls struggle to kiss that idol.

Empiree:
You should visit your local masajid(mosques). You can also visit

www.Islamqa.com

http://www.islamreligion.com/index.php?option=com_contact&task=view&contact_id=1&Itemid=31

http://akhiruzzaman.com/contact/

www.imranhosein.org

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm

And many more. But these are international scholars

malvisguy212:
[s] you still did not understand it, do you? Do you ask for forgiveness after death or before death? I remember one proverb that say "it is too late to cry when the head is cut off"

Sura 4:30-31, Whoso doeth that
(evil deeds) through aggression and
injustice, We shall cast him into Fire,
and that is ever easy for Allah. If ye
avoid the great (things) which ye are
forbidden, We will remit from you
your evil deeds and make you enter at
a noble gate.

This verse was talking about after life,judgment is there forgiveness after you died? I need quranic verse to support your answer. [/s]

malvisguy212:
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I do not say forgiveness is not the nature of God,

I say IGNORING OF LITTLE SIN IS NOT AMONG THE NATURE OF GOD. [/size]

Pls read that nonsense above once more...

Your first sentence says "Forgiveness [size=16pt] IS [/size] in the nature of God"

Then, the second one says "it's NOT in the nature of God to ignore/forgive even LITTLE sins"

Abeg, which school did you attend??

Go back and claim all your fees!

Meet me at the other thread let discuss this.

udatso:
Salamualaykum. I am glad you read that thread all through. He creates a thread and after he has been answered, he will create another claiming he hasn't been answered. I have realised that the script of a movie "megamind" is what's going on between Muslims and Islamophobe. They do bad, and the Muslims always come around to bust them.

malvisguy212:
how is sin being atone in Islam, a very simple question.

Sura 4:30-31, Whoso doeth that
(evil deeds) through aggression and
injustice, We shall cast him into Fire,
and that is ever easy for Allah. If ye
AVOID THE GREAT (things) which ye are
FORBIDDEN, We will remit from you
your evil deeds and make you enter at
a noble gate.


None of you brother were able to give straight answer to this question.

Clearly written, Allah will ignore small sin only if you" AVOID THE GREAT(things) which ye are FORBIDDEN" this is against the nature of holiness in God.

It's very funny you say that forgiveness is against the nature of holiness in God. But you think it's ok that god-daddy killed god-baby and used his blood to wash off the sins of christians who died since centuries ago and those yet unborn Weirdos!!

vedaxcool:
If I were the op I will stick to where his core competency lies, i.e. lying against Islam and slandering Muslims than attempting to look intelligent!

malvisguy212:
you see this thread ? https://www.nairaland.com/2291243/muhammeds-doctrine-sin-what-does
None of your muslims brothers were able to tell me how sin is being atoned for. You need a serious lessons on the purification of sin in Christianity.

Malvis, you have moved from robotic nonsense to professional lying

That thread generated 4pages, full of explanation from Muslims on your question. Yet, you're here singing your national anthem about Muslims not answering your question

Udasto even created this thread below, solely to answer your question...

https://www.nairaland.com/2305790/sin-forgiveness-islam#33603302

Well done, for cunningly dodging my question with this thrash!

malvisguy212:
[size=3pt] Agnostics will say God has abandoned his creatures,infacte,At this point, some doubters will say to me, "You said many things that are logical, and that is why I cannot say categorically that there is no God. But I'm an agnostic, because even if there is a God, I doubt we can know this Being." I have heard this argument before, but it makes no logical sense. Let me explain:

Why would a Creator go through the
trouble of making a huge universe, with
billions of galaxies containing billions of
stars, so that the proper elements of life
can exist on our side of the universe to
form life?Then the Creator goes through
the extent of putting a God- consciousness in us to make us aware of
God's existence. Then the Being giving us a conscience to feel responsibility to the Creator. Then He puts eternity in our hearts so that we cannot help but believe we will live forever. Considering all this, why would a Creator leave us alone and remain unknowable?

It is clear that since the Creator went
through all this, then He intends for us to find Him. Paul said it this way to the
Athenians:
"God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us" (Acts 17:27).

It is, therefore, logical to think that God
would provide a way for us to reach Him.
WHICH RELIGION?
This is where we come to the subject of
religion. Religion is the system by which
people try to connect with God and
ultimately make peace with Him. It's that simple.

The trouble is that if humankind starts
the system, it is doomed for failure.
Instead, God would have to set up the
religion for humans to find Him. It is
logical that if God established creation,
gave us a God-consciousness, a moral
conscience, and a consciousness of
eternity, that He intends to establish a
religion that humans could find Him and be reconciled to Him.

Agnostics would argue that it is impossible to know which,if any religion
is true. However,logic convinces me that God must establish the true religion,
otherwise, He failed to provide a pathway for us to reach Him.It's illogical
for the Creator to go through all this
extent, only to fail at this point in
providing us a pathway to Himself.

There are three possible pathways to the Deity: pantheism, polytheism and
monotheism.

Which basic pathway is right? Pantheism sees the universe as God. For this pathway to be true, then the universe would have to be eternal. But we have seen through observable science that the universe is not eternal. It has a beginning and will one day have an end. Thus, pantheism is a false pathway to God.

Polytheism is a belief that multiple gods
created the universe. Even though this
could be true, the universe is one. In
fact, the word "uni-means one." There is
only one universe and the entire universe is subject to the same laws and
is connected to the whole. Therefore, it is more likely that only One Being created the one universe.

This means that monotheism would be
the proper pathway to God. This helps us in our search since there are only three major religions that are monotheistic:
Judaism, Christianity and Islam. All three could not be true, because they
contradict themselves at very important
points.

Of the three monotheistic religions, only
one teaches that the One God is revealed in Three Persons: Christianity. The other two agree that God is One and is revealed as One Person.
However, as I contemplate the universe,
is it possible that the Creator put His
fingerprints on the universe so we can
know what kind of God He is? The answer is yes. The universe, though it is one, is also three-dimensional.

There are three elements that make up
the universe: time, space and matter
(energy plus mass). They exist together to form the universe. Not only is the
universe made of these three trinitarian
elements, each of the elements are
made of three:

Time is made of past,present and future
Space is made of height,depth and width. Matter is made of solid, liquid and gas. This is no coincidence. It seems that the Creator put His trinitarian fingerprints on the universe so that humans would know the true religion.
Any ancient human could have seen
these three in one if they gave it much
thought. But now, through the invention of the microscope, we have discovered that even the building blocks of the universe, the atom, is made of three components: protons, electrons and neutrons. It's as if the Creator put His signature on the creation so humans could find the true religion.

Only Christianity has revealed the true
nature of God,one God in three Persons. God establish Christianity and gave us a revelation of His true Nature.

Christianity also claims that is the
fulfillment of the oldest monotheistic
religion: Judaism. In Judaism, there was
hope and expectation that the Messiah
would come to set the world right.

Christianity says that Jesus Christ is the
Messiah, and through Him the full
revelation of the Triune God was revealed.

Jesus did not want us to accept Him by
blind faith, because He said, "If anyone
chooses to do God's will, he will find out
whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own" (John 7:17). Jesus is saying that belief in Him and in His teachings will be proven true by its success. Success defined is the ability to connect with God, in addition to making people better. When people truly submit to the Lordship of Christ and follow His teachings, then they make the world around them better. [/size]

Islam cannot be taken serious because it's contradicts the true nature of God through the moral law, God who set this law will not allow man to break it easily,

So, Christians don't break their tri-god's moral laws

They break all known laws in the buyboo- they eat swine, commit fornication and adultery, steal, lie (as you're doing right now)............. You name it, they do it!

Islam say if your good deed outweigh your bad deed ,Allah will forgave you. In other word, it doesent matter how much you sinned as long as you can do more good, God will forgive you.

The bold part is the point. Irrespective of religion, it's impossible for man to be free of sin, hence, judgement is based on measurement.

Allah is All-Knowing, this doesn't mean He will give a man the chance to be a good AND bad person at the same time- this is impossible. The soul naturally tends to one direction, either good or evil.

So, since you're criticizing Allah for accepting higher good/lower sin, tell me, HOW will the tri-god judge christians?? Or, he expects you to NEVER commit a single sin? Or, are you automatically condemned to hell if you sin?

This contradicts the nature of holiness in God and this give man the right to sin even more as long as they can outweigh this sin with the good deed. I pray God open our eyes even more.

You're terribly confused regarding the underlined.

In Islam, actions are judged according to intentions. If you do evil on purpose, with the intention that you will do good to neutralize it, that good action is void, your intention has invalidated it.

Allah does NOT encourage evil in any way, rather, He only gives hope of redemption to the sinners. He is Al-Ghaffur- The Most Forgiving

This is surprising, coming from a follower of a tri-god, who killed his son, used the blood of this one son to cleanse the sins of billions? What a terrible way to do justice!!