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Scum bags who would analyse future events and make a guess.

Ofcourse with Fayose's opposition with the APC government, everybody knows when he relinquish power this year, the federals would be all over his ass. Real men of God would not just make a guess but give you timeline of events that would lead to a certain action.

Fake materialistic scumbags everywhere

This ain't prophecies, this are predictions, all these so called men of God scamming their sheeple. If you wanna see how a real prophecy looks like consult the Bible.

Chai a lot of people are really spiritually blind, how can "pray against assassinations" be a prophecy, no it's been on the safe side, if their are assassinations, which of course there would be(Elections years in Nigeria always come with that), yea they would say the prophecies fulfilled and it didn't happen, they would say it was the prayers that made it go away. Just like a stupid con man that parades himself a pastor that claimed the president of America would be a female(Hillary Clinton), till date some fellows are still brainwashed there.

Chai Babylon Da Great get power no be small

Buhari is a forktacd, APC full of scumbags, That petroleum minister a useless fellow, the NNPC GMD a certified stupid fellow... How can I be buying 300 naira per litre of gasoline in a country that's 7th in the world when it comes to oil deposits. What is forking wrong with this country.

Am coming to edit this post, until then lemme enjoy my beer, I can't come and kill myself in this useless country, abeg which nairalander would take me out of here to europe or US but ofcourse not through the Libyan route , I can't jump from frying pan to fire now

dingbang:
pls can you give me a list of vsat isps that I can choose from to subscribe to one of their plans... (Excluding Mtn glo Airtel Etisalat ntel)

Which part of the country are you at ?

thats no biggie deal of course

Let me speak on behalf of a lot of people

Majority might not have found this year to be sexy, a lot of people were retrenched from their jobs, some who were still able to keep their jobs had their salaries slashed in addition to the hundreds of thousands that finished their NYSC program that poured into the job market.

But irrespective of the "ups and down" your being alive is a testament of God's goodness, it might not be your turn this year, Next year might be yours. Have you sat down to think about how your disappointments this year can be channeled to be blessings for the coming new year. Buhari is a Forktard i know, you cant take that away from him, but instead of moaning up and down and crying to fowl heavens how Buhari and his wicked govt ruined you, have you sat down to analyze how to exploit some of his policies for your advantage.

We pray for long life, a measure of good health and the financial stability to keep up with life ever-changing demands, I for one, one Lady improved my life this year and i am forever grateful to her

Statsocial:
By Leke Beecroft

THIS ARTICLE HOW NECESSARY AND COST EFFECTIVE IS OWNERSHIP OF JETS BY MEGA CHURCHES?


#1. The Efficiency Factor:

First of all, how efficient are the commercial services of the Nigerian aviation system? This answer is an obvious NO and has been so through the years. Is there anyone reading this in Nigeria, who is a regular air traveller and whose flight has never been delayed or who has never experienced some form of disappointment? In 2011, Oyedepo visited 27 countries for missionary purposes. In a particular week, I monitored his movement from sunday evening when he left Lagos for Kenya till friday evening when he arrived back in Lagos, Nigeria for a night ministration. He was in Zambia, Kenya, South Africa, Tanzania and Botswana (if my memory serves me right) in a spate of five days and was back to minister at the night session in Nigeria. This would have been absolutely impossible using commercial aviation means in Africa. No wonder Pastor Matthew Ashimolowo pointed out that as close as Liberia or Togo and other West African countries were to Nigeria, it was easier to get a commercial flight to London than to our neighbours here in Africa.

#2. The Ignorance, busy-body and Poverty Mentality Factor:

Secondly, when missionary establishments of the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s flew in white missionaries on jets or helicopters, they were welcomed by the Nigerian locals and it was an acceptable sight. Why? They were whites. One of the greatest issues with missionary owned jets in Africa is the poverty mentality. Today, several billionaires in Nigeria are celebrated because they own jets. Young musicians and artistes are also celebrated for wearing large "bling blings" and "Chopping their money" on private jets...but when indigenously established missionary organizations, whose only mission is to save your soul are discovered to own these same aircraft to facilitate easy air trips, every busybody wants to have a say and criticize, sometimes very insultive....including those who have either never stepped foot in a church, never dropped a dime in offerings to God or have never even embraced the commandments of the Bible.

As much as criticism of missionary owned jets may be "religiously and politically" correct, I make bold to say they are scripturally incorrect. We are called covenant children of Abraham; what does the Bible say about Father Abraham? Genesis 13:2 "And Abram was very rich in cattle, in silver, and in gold." Genesis 24:1 "And Abraham was old, and well stricken in age: and the Lord had blessed Abraham in all things." I am also very glad that after the death of Jesus Christ on the cross, it took a wealthy man to come get his body and put him in a befitting tomb. Also before his death when Judas was grumbling about the Alabaster Box that should have been given to the poor, the Bible had this to say "Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him, Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor? This he said, not that he CARED for the poor; but because he was a THIEF, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein." John 12;4-6.

If the argument is really about giving to the poor, why not also ask all the oil moguls in the country, all businessmen, musicians and all other owners to sell their jets and give to the poor? Obviously the emphasis isn't about the poor but anger and envy that wealth seems to be moving to the church...unfortunately, it hasn't even started. The Bible is the constitution of the christian. if what is in the Bible hurts your feelings, I render no apologies....let God be true and every man be a liar. Romans 3:4.

#3. Travel Frequency, Time, Administrative and Global Reach Factor:

For record purposes, as at the last time I checked and I believe I am current, the christian organizations who presently own aircraft in Nigeria are the Redeemed Christian Church of God which has branches in over 190 countries, the Living Faith Church Worldwide with branches in over 60 countries and 'Shiloh' online presence in over 170 countries, Christ Embassy with 'Rhapsody' presence in over 180 countries and branches in at least 4 continents as well as the immediate past CAN President, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor led Word of Life Bible Church. Pastor Ayo began to broadcast to the world before any of the afore mentioned pastors, back in 1987.

I ask another question; is it true that the leaders of some of these organizations travel regularly around the world? Do you have any idea what the itinerary of the Adeboyes, Oyedepos, Oritsejafors and Oyakhilomes entail?


Again it was Pastor Adeboye that said “there are things you need. When you have to oversee churches in 160 countries, you can’t do that on a bicycle,” Bishop Mike Okonkwo in an interview seemed to be in disagreement with some pastors listed here, the press excitedly tried to instigate him the more by asking about the ownership of jets. He explained to them however how he had once travelled to the Central African Republic for a programme but had to wait idly for almost a week for a return flight to Nigeria through Cameroon...... Any serious man or organization has respect for their time. The Church is one of such. Pastor Sam Adeyemi said once that all you need to grow old on time is to be a regular commercial flier on long trips.

#4. The Maintenance Cost Factor:

"If you are rich and desire to become poor quickly, own an aircraft." Pastor Enoch A Adeboye.

[b]Very many people do not understand what it takes to maintain an aircraft, especially in a country like Nigeria where aviation is controlled almost purely at the Federal level. How many people remember the issues with payment of parking fees for the Nigerian Presidential jet in 2009/10 when President Yar' Adua was flown to Saudi Arabia? Large sums of money (probably in millions of dollars) were paid for the aircraft which sat idly at the Riyadh King Khalid International Airport. One organization which used to charter aircraft frequently for movement to her crusade venues around the globe once paid about #75,000,000 (Seventy Five Million naira) annually for parking her aircraft at Bristow helicopters in Lagos.

Those who usually tout the example of the Pope who charters and flies Alitalia do not even realise that his accumulated flight expenses along with his entourage in just 30 flights will buy a nice jet. Let me break it down. Is it better to buy a car or charter a cab so expensive that you would have spent the cost of that car in just 30 drops?[/b]

My question again is, is it better to park your aircraft idly at the airport and pay these heavy parking sums to the government from church offerings not forgetting servicing, repairs and maintenance costs or lease them to aviation companies which in turn return profit at no cost to the church? Rev Gabriel Oduyemi bought a jet for church use. I do not need to tell the story of what happened to that aircraft but remember that it was the same aircraft that Omotola Jolade Ekeinde's pilot husband bought as 'scrap". Lest I forget, the average Captain in the aviation industry earns $10,000 (N3,600,000 or N3.6m) monthly. For two captains, that will be $20,000 (N7.2m) monthly or $240,000 (N86.2m) annually, not forgetting travel and landing allowances, hotel bills for the pilots etc. Young pilots need to accumulate hours and hours of flight so they opt for commercial planes instead of private jets who do not fly that regularly. This means that owning a private jet leaves you with almost no option than to hire experienced or veteran captains. This of course means you pay well for it. Luke 16:8 "And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation WISER THAN THE CHILDREN OF LIGHT".


Fortunately, the children of light are wiser now. They lease out their jets when not in use and avoid incurring unnecesary and exorbitant costs while the aircraft remains active even when not in use. Winners’ Chapel stretched this point. Among the first generation of missionary aircraft owners, she started leasing out her aircraft to EMS Speedpost once she realised what the costs of maintenance entailed and with due notice, she would use same jet for her missionary trips eventually an oil company also leased the jet and had to pay compensation after an accident. The church decided to buy another aircraft and this time built a hangar at the airport in Lagos. The hangar has space for 6 jets at a time. Now she does not rely on "church income" to maintain the hangar but runs it as a separate concern, funding itself. This is the line Church jet owners should be towing. I will quickly add at this point that for large organizations, it is cheaper to own aircraft than to keep paying for commercial air tickets or for charter services. If leasing a missionary aircraft will save costs and preserve the life of that aircraft for longer use, then that is simply the way to go


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Oya OP shey you sabi book and can cook up excuses for the excesses of these materialistic pastors of today, why did the Apostle Paul with all his missionary journey in the scriptures never owned a cruise ship abi do you think that if he lorded it over the congregation, they would not buy it for him.

Listen you can make noise for all you want, i dont want to be drawn into those kind of battles, i never chop since two weeks but the truth is that the church now is a commercial entity that have digressed from the path of our Lord Jesus Christ.

If Jesus Christ and his apostles and disciples of Bible Times did not profit from their evangelical work, who the forrk are your pastors and ministers who make millions of dollars from their sheep, are they super Jesus or is their righteousness greater than Peter, Paul combined?

Gbemishile1:
that man is old enough to be ur grand father
i suppose you dont have respect for urs,
even as an assumed illiterate,he still has that wealth of experience and success u can only dream of which i doubt u can ever attain in ur life
he is the head of his household as a father
a head of a community of families
he is the head of a country to which you derive ur daily bread

Tell yourself what you want to hear... And You see that angle I bolded, I would have replied you in a befitting manner, but I think am gonna let slide because today is sunday. But please don't be stupid on a Sunday

Most Vsat ISP's offers unlimited night plan so far as you have a subscription running...

Ntel should spread their tentacles to most cities in Nigeria, concentrating their services to mostly the big cities in Nigeria is their most undoing, there is high level competition to those that offer more betters services than they do.

Reminds me how glo was able to get market share then, while MTN were concentrating the cities, glo was trageting villages and suburbs and was able to break into the market.

Nigerians are so gullible abeg, would you in your wildest dreams think and imagine this man not having a smart phone. Unlike majority of Nigerians, business men need the smartphones to check mails, send on-demand instructions, tele-conferencing with their partners around the world etc. You see how easy for politicians to repackage a devil and sell him as an angel and the gullible masses would buy...

Na so they repackage one gworo eating anumanu, with no papers, just informal certificate in animal husbandry, a bigot and tribalist, but during the campaigns sowed suit for am, wore him igbo Ishiagu, wore him yoruba agbada, garnered sympathy and claimed that he couldn't buy a presidential nomination form, mofos from the north donated funds and bought their "recharged cards" to support the nigga.

Now the nigga knows only their dress code, can never wear an Ibo dress even when he visit the east, nor he were agbada when he visits the west

Nigga that claims no money for nomination could pay for wards school fees in the UK

Naija which way na, another scam would soon be repackaged for gullible Nigerians to vote for

Politicians I can't support any of you, settle una beef or chicken self

Stealing is bad, very bad and no justification was so ever is enough to make stealing sound good.

Nigeria is at its lowest ebb, poverty is very much in the land, no education, no social amenities nothing nothing.

Nigeria still have small morals, else we would have seen where the poor people turn against the elites and eat them raw

Life is so forrking damn funny...

Ladies with body structures like Picture 1 and fallen Heroes like picture 2 would still after these huge show off will still lose their man to upcoming artistes and would still be crying fowl to the heavens that what do The upcoming artist have that I did not have ? Like seriously...

There are physique your woman would have (Picture 1) and IGI would grant you insurance to cheat, pay you insurance benefits and even provide you with a probone lawyer to defend you in court

I rather remain in celibacy than this two abeg

Looks like time to start a social crusade on nairaland, what is forrkking wrong with nairaland and censorship abi is their moderators now working with the National Picture and Video censors board. Every Tom and Harry you censor.

Earlier post you censored what okorocha ma man traveled all the way from Owerri to calabar to enjoy to the extent his jaws dropped, now you are now censoring this, now OP ask yourself this pertinent question

Did you see any of the children unhappy, weren't they smiling?

Is the nudist offended? Nigga was even smiling to the cameras, took selfies with students and got paid and went back home , am sure he would sure get clients from those pool of students.

OP was so mad in the head that even the second and third pictures, he even censored the nude pic on the phone, what is forkinng wrong with Nigerians with I too know (ITK), the people that was showed the damn thing are they super human and we less human


Take this damn statement serious at your own periil

OP thunder fire you there

How is that after sex photo? Somebody wey her career na nudity no need to have sex before snapping picture and posting online.

That babe dey make her millions doing nudity, chai and our parents confused us make we go school day we go dey successful in life

Imagine entertainers, Business men come dey make money pass graduates...

Doctorfitz:
C as u take this thing personal. If u wrote ur waec like this u for no use two sittings

Hahahahaha, do you wanna see proof, FYI did WAEC and NECO in one sitting.

Never stayed an extra year at home...

Finished tertiary when some of ma mates still dey hussle JAMB..

as I sabi speak Grammer, you get any work for me

Drabeey:
a chilled bottle of Legend extra stout for u my friend

Yea ma nigga, where and when should I come for it, or are you "ubering" the damn thing

Besides what happened to your signature "Drabeey was here"

Nigeria with its useless I too know (ITK), breast wey the owners have been paid for to showcase in a cultural and educational way that these useless OP dey censor. It's not like the women were mentally deranged or have some wardrobe malfunction, but graciously showcased as part of enlightenment and showcasing of the rich african culture?

Now OP ask yourself, if these breast that okoro ma man saw were censored, would he have been carried away, to the point that his brain had a lapse that his mouth would subconsciously open in excitement and "wonderment"

Any body who blames okorohausa should have his head examined, these are things men do subconsciously

AZeD1:
You are assuming NNPC is paying cash. You do realise they could be paying via crude oil right?

For the last one month, NNPC has been the sole importer of PMS . The NNPC does crude oil swaps.

The VP is a lawyer, he knows not to say anything that can't be defended in the law courts.

I think you are shooting yourself more in the feet, if NNPC is the sole importer of PMS, why the scarcity, does it mean the government and it's agency are part of the grand conspiracy to ensure there is fuel scarcity?

If the NNPC, is the sole importer, why blame petroleum marketers?

If the government does swapping as alledged, why are we still paying for subsidy sicne it's a kind of trade and batter transact.

Osibanjo has lied many times in the past, he has said things that contradicted what his masters have said even including the chief lair in the information ministry, so Osibanjo has lost all morals remaining in him since he joined the government, so don't go there...

AZeD1:
No. By law revenue agencies are allowed to spend a portion of the revenue they generated.

Now do the maths, the record says it's up to 40 naira subsidy paid for every litre consumed in Nigeria, please do the maths for the litres consumed in Nigeria daily. Then whatever figure you generate, then check if it is within the amount " by law revenue agencies are allowed to spend of the revenue they generated"

AZeD1:
Too many illiterates on this thread. All revenue generating agencies return a percentage to the federation account while they spend the remaining.

If the VP says NNPC is paying for it, then it's coming from their share of revenue generated.

Also the NNPC does crude oil swaps.


If you've worked in a big company, you'd know departments have budgets and they kind of spend it in different ways.

Mr I tooo know, now the money the NNPC is using in paying for the so called subsidy, is it not the money that should have been sent back to the government coffers right?

So who is still paying for the subsidy? Government? Bill gates ?

Please be reasonable and don't reason with sentiments

LagosCiti:
I'm not your usual critic, but this guy seems to have gotten lost in the euphoria of dating a billionaire's daughter. Fine, it's cool and they're in love, but ambition seems to be absent in this guy's dictionary. When new acts like Mayorkun and Ycee are busy dropping hits and climbing up the ladder to becoming tier 2 and eventually tier 1 artistes, this guy is busy enjoying his comfort zone.

Well, I hope he's got a solid back up plan, just in case the relationship goes south... just saying.

Do you know weather the benefits coming out of this union outweighs the money he has ever made in his career, combined with the money ycee and mayorkun are making.

Bros don't you know that guy might be milking this billionaire protégé with a big straw.

First question is, is there anything like five star tomatoes? If yes ,is the brand from five star group owned by e money? If yes, why are you complaining of fake products? So are you trying to tell me that a whole consignment of tomatoes made its way into the country without him knowing

Spending quality time with loved ones outweighs any physical cash u might give them, but make sure you come with physical cash else your long stay might end up being a liability to them

Two ugly fellows.... See how this niggas teeth is as brown as a gworo eating fellow.

Well anything that rocks their boat, but am sure even if the lady ain't enjoying the marriage, the access to stupendous wealth and power would always make the average Nigerian lady to stay.

The only downside to this is when you as a rabbit farmer refuse to join the association due to personal and business reasons and they end up using the police to intimidate you.

All I see is bunch of opportunists who hurriedly formed this association to amass wealth for themselves, ranging from government subventions, to monthly and annual taxing from members to aid from international NGOs.

My Personal view though