₦airaland Forum

raumdeuter:
The indigenes of Anambra who lived through Obis regime are the ones complaining as I've shown you

I asked if you will live in Anambra you no reply

PO isn't the current governor of the state, so your question is irrelevant.

raumdeuter:
The destruction Obi did on Anambra will take years to repair. That is what they are still suffering in Anambra till today. The result of Obis 8yrs in Anambra is what we see today

Do you want Nigeria to be like Obis Anambra

According to you and your cohort, all governors of Anambra are perfect and blameless except just one, PO. I hear you.

See logic. SMH

raumdeuter:
Obi destroyed Anambra in his 8yrs and the successors are trying to repair it

Lols, a typical BAT and APC supporter is a master of blame game. Buhari spent years blaming Jonathan for his (Buhari) own failure and ineptitude.

I'm sure it was Jonathan that prevented him from appointing ministers six months into his tenure or that made him spend months overseas treating an undisclosed sickness.

So, it's Obi who left office eight years ago that's responsible for the current problems in Anambra, not the current governor or the immediate past governor or the governors before Obi.

Lols. See logic

raumdeuter:
We have seen reports from people who lived under Obi and the evidence is there

We have seen how you've been running and avoiding living in Anambra that Obi governed

Governed or governs? I think you confuse these two words.

Soludo, the current Anambra governor, isn't responsible for the current state of things in the state. Obano, the immediate past governor, isn't to be held responsible as well but Obi who ruled years before them is.

See the logic of BAT supporters. I'm sure PO is even responsible for the state of Anambra since the state was created in 1991.

Lols. See what defending APC and BAT has led to.

raumdeuter:
Why is it irrelevant. Live in the state Obi governed to have a taste of what his Nigeria will be like

Lols, this man. I didn't know Obi, who ruled Anambra State eight years ago is now the same person as Soludo, the current state governor.

raumdeuter:
Can you live in Anambra that was governed by Obi Yes or No

Pick one between current Anambra or current Lagos

Obi isn't the current governor of Anambra, so your question is irrelevant.

raumdeuter:
What issues have you countered with facts? A candidate who ruled and people were calling a curse, Yet you want a curse on Nigerians you hate us reach like that

I've established that you can't live in a Nigeria ruled by BAT and also laid out the fact that comparing Lagos, a former national capital and the current economic capital of Nigeria (for years), with Anambra, a state created just in 1991 from Old Anambra ravaged by war in the 1970s, is unreasonable.

EOD

raumdeuter:
If Tinubu wins I am not Interested in returning to Nigeria to live

That means wishing Obi on Nigeria is evil as well

raumdeuter:
What else will be a better way to judge someone besides asking those who experienced his administration first hand and had tales of woe.

Obi was PDP Vice President last election. Like Okowa said yesterday Obi and Kwankwanso cannot be divorced from the rot they claimed Nigeria is

They were both 8yrs governor, and PDP member at this time 8 months ago

Lols, since you can't provide a good defense for your previous points I countered with facts, you don divert to another excuse.

Obi has his own issues but is a lesser evil than the candidates of the other two evil parties that have done serious damage to Nigeria and Nigerians.

PDP had its chance for good 16 years and failed; APC also had its chance for about 8 years and performed worse than the woeful PDP.

The reasonable thing is to give another party a try.

Don't wish for us what you dread for yourself.

Any Nigerian living in Nigeria, experiencing the insecurity, inflation and extremely high food prices, incessant ASUU strikes, monumental acts of corruption, youth unemployment, epileptic power supply, and other ills that have defined Buhari's government, and is still campaigning for APC or PDP is simply being foolish.

Fela described such fools as "suffering and smiling". Foolishness must be inherent in such a person's gene.

But for people like you in the diaspora, you're just being wicked or using us to catch cruise by supporting APC.

raumdeuter:
All I see are excuses for poor performance

We saw scorecards from people living in Anambra during Obi and what they had to say

Why do you wish this type of man on Nigerians if you dont hate the country

https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing

Is this your reason for blaming one governor out of the multiple state governors for current woes Anambra is facing?

Is that why you campaign for APC yet you dread living under this same party you tout?

You've not given me any cogent reason why a party like APC that failed woefully in all ramifications deserves another chance or why the comparison of Lagos State, a former national capital, with Anambra, a state that arose from the rubbles of war in the 1970s, is reasonable.

It's clear even you yourself can't buy this product (BAT) you're selling to us. Lols

raumdeuter:
There was a state called Anambra state before 1991 whose capital was Enugu.

Why cant we blame Obi for the evil in the state he governed? How will we know what Obi presidency if not to evaluate the performance of his governorship

Why do you want the evil that befell Anambra in person of Obi to fall on Nigeria? Do you hate the country that much?

Where's the sense in blaming a single governor (that served 8 years ago) for the bad things currently happening in a state when different people have governed this state before and after your scapegoat?

Why must one person bear the brunt of all the poor decisions and ill-thought-out action and inaction of the rest of the state governors?

Can you make this make sense?

About the issue of date of creation of Anambra State, comparing an old Anambra State ravaged by the Biafra War with Lagos State, the former national capital and the economic capital of Nigeria for years, that had enjoyed relative peace over the years is illogical.

The Biafra War wreaked a lot of havoc on Enugu, the capital of old Anambra State, yet you expect Anambra to outperform a Lagos that has had relative peace and enjoyed its status as a former capital of the country.

Anambra was even the epicenter of the tragedies of the war, which claimed millions of lives and property. I had expected a more reasonable argument than this.

raumdeuter:
So before 1991, The place called Anambra today did not exist? and it was just unearthed in 1991?

Continue deceiving yourself

What do you say about the testimonials of those who lived in Anambra during Obi tenure and all they had to say was that he was a disaster

Do you hope Nigeria become Peter Obis Anambra or Tinubus Lagos. We need to know why you wish the evil that befell Anambra in person f Peter Obi on all Nigerians

Anambra State was created in 1991. True or false?

Of course, all states and regions of the world had been in existence well before they were named and created. What makes Anambra an exception?

Or you want to blame Obi for the bad things that happened in the land area now called Anambra even before he was born? Because you've singled out only him now to blame for the current state of things in Anambra as if no governor led the state before and after him.

You're comparing a state created in 1991 to another that was created tens of years earlier and had been a national capital tens of years before creating the newer state, and yet you expect this newer state to miraculously perform better.

Which kind logic be this? I know it's a lot of hard work to defend a monumental failure of a party like APC.

raumdeuter:
Anambra of today is largely as a result of 8yrs of Obi and Lagos today is largely as a result of 8yrs of Tinubu

By their results we will know them, Obi was governor for 8yrs same as Tinubu WHy wont you prefer to live in Anambra over Lagos?

Is it because of the disaster called Obi who ruined the state? Why do you now want ths same disaster to rule Nigeria

Seems you really hate Nigeria If you want the person whose regime in Anambra was described below. These are the testimonials from people who lived in Anambra during Obis regime

https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing

Lols, Anambra of today is the product of Obi's leadership as if he's the only one that governed the state in the past.

Why pick only him out of the past leaders the state has had as the governor responsible for the current state of things in the state?

Which kind reasoning be this? Blaming a man that ruled a state 8 years ago for the current poor state of things in the state?

Haven't they elected governors before and after PO?

Why must only PO be responsible for the current state of things in Anambra? Does Anambra even have a governor currently at all?

Your comparison of Lagos to Anambra is DOA and is not reasonable at all. First, Lagos was a former capital of the country and has been the economic capital of Nigeria even before Tinubu served as governor.

Anambra was only created in 1991, yet Lagos had been the capital of the country from 1960 till 1991.

And you're comparing both states. Can you make this make sense? I don't understand this kind of logic.

Comparing Anambra to Lagos is like comparing a professor with a 400L student. Who makes such a comparison except mischievous people?

raumdeuter:
If you are campaigning and supporting Obi why dont you move to Anambra that he governed.
You want Obi, yet you dont want to live in the place Obi governed for 8yrs

Why are you insisiting on staying in Lagos of Tinubu and not Anambra of Obi?

Nigeria in 8yrs will be like current Lagos vs Nigeria in 8yrs will be like current Anambra

Which sounds more like a curse?
Why are you wishing the man who made Anambra what it is currently on all Nigerians if you dont hate Nigeria

I don't understand this kind of comparison. Obi served as the governor of Anambra State eight years ago. Should I go back in time to decide whether to live in the state under his dispensation or Tinubu's Lagos?

Anambra isn't currently under the leadership of Obi or LP, his party. I don't see any sense in this comparison.

We're talking about the present, and APC, the evil party you're campaigning for, is the party currently ruling Nigeria, which you (like millions of Nigerians in the diaspora) dread to live in.

raumdeuter:
Peter Obi has spent 8yrs as governor what was the impact he made on his state? What's the state of Anambra now especially on this Monday afternoon

Good governance goes beyond lying on camera. Tinubu will point to Lagos. Can Obi point to Anambra he governed

If I'm to visit Nigeria I will rather stay in Tinubus Lagos than stay in Obis Anambra. I am sure you agree as well.

If you think Obi is better will you live in Anambra?

Nigeria in 8yrs will be like current Lagos vs Nigeria in 8yrs will be like current Anambra

Which sounds more like a curse? If you think it's Anambra then why are you campaigning for the man who turned Anambra to that to be president?

Is it because you hate Nigeria so much that you want it to become Anambra?

About their comparative performance as state governors, I can't say who performed better. But I for one didn't really rate Tinubu's Lagos as a resident in the state since the early 2000s.

Fashola was a better leader of the state in all ramifications, and many Lagosians believe so.

Even if Fashola had vied for the presidential position on the platform of APC, the mere fact of choosing that evil party already damaged his chances.

I said PO is the lesser evil out of the three candidates because APC and PDP have both wreaked huge havoc on the country, and considering the Buhari's administration, which is a monumental failure, APC doesn't deserve to rule Nigeria again.

If you feel otherwise, you may as well move back to the country so you can get a taste of the suffering and hardship that most of us experience under the draconian leadership of the APC-led Buhari government.

raumdeuter:
If Obi Tinubu Atiku anyone wins I am not Interested in returning to Nigeria to live

That means wishing Obi on Nigeria is evil as well

You're a BAT supporter, but you dread his tenure and won't want to live in a Nigeria he leads.

That means even you yourself know BAT is a bad choice. Why then have you been campaigning for BAT whose government you dread living under?

It means you don't wish millions of Nigerians well.

As for PO, he seems like a lesser evil among the three popular candidates. If he wins, I don't expect him to fix Nigeria within four years.

But he should be able to lay the foundation for upcoming leaders to work on. At least, he's expected to get the basic things right, like choosing his ministers immediately he's sworn in and picking the right people.

These are basics that PMB got wrong. His administration was doomed to be a failure from the start.

We never beat Arsenal, na PSG with the trio of Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe for attack dey wan beat. Lols

Ihebu4chelsea:
Why dont they come back to Nigeria and enjoy Apc? Why would any sane mind Campaign for Apc From the US? i think they enjoy the Pain And Sufferings Nigerians are going through. Simply because they have secured a good Life somewhere else...... God is still on his Throne. God will reward and Judge all of you Wishing this Country Hardship and Suffering!!!

I don't know what some people that are intelligent and supposed to be enlightened and exposed would gain from watching their fellow humans suffer.

The human species can be strange sometimes. One would expect more from the species at the topmost echelon of nature's food chain.

andrewbaba44:
Cook curella

Tuchel left your team 5 point behind arsenal ,under potter you are now 13 points behind arsenal you all don’t rate

Lols, they said the amateur coach is better than a proven, world-class coach. The kid and his partners in crime used pages to tell us how Potter is better even though he's yet to win a trophy in his career, yet to spend 6 months on the job.

It's clear the man is below average sef. If he fails to qualify us for top four (which is looking like a mirage now) at the end of this season, then he should be sacked. Else, Bole will ruin RA's great achievements for the club.

If Nigerians vote for APC even after their presidential candidate failed to shows up for yesterday's debate, then it means they're getting more foolish by the day.

Tinubu thought it wise to attend a birthday party when called upon to discuss his plans for the people on live TV.

raumdeuter:
Of the millions in Lagos how many are undecided at this point
Able to understand the deep policies and open minded about others
Are tuned to AriseTV at this time of the day

All these points you're making to defend BAT's absence at the debate don't make sense. In my area, my neighbors also watched the debate yesterday because I could hear the voices of the participants from their side when I was watching the program too.

I'm sure many people interested in the upcoming election also watched it. Millions of Nigerians have GoTV in their homes. This is 2022, not 2002.

Well, going by the comments here, it's clear some Nigerians in the diaspora like you don't mean well for those of us still in the country because most Nigerians can't be suffering under the current government and you'll still be campaigning for the evil people (Tinubu and co) that brought us into this mess in the first place.

It just shows you, the Oasis guy, and others like you abroad are enemies of the Nigerian people.

It's just so atrocious reading some comments here, especially from diasporans who have a first-hand experience of what good governance is, who are supposed to be exposed people.

You're over there and know how a leader in the 21st century should think, reason, and behave, yet surprisingly, you're supporting the lifeless one and BAT.

If you want APC to continue ruling this country in 2023, would you be glad to return to the country to enjoy under the government?

I'm sure your answer to that question is NO, which buttresses my point that you don't wish us well.

Ibime:
You done hold Dayo for neck

Lols

See how much Buhari's clueless government paid a UNILAG senior lecturer as October salary, yet people are still campaigning for APC and blaming ASUU for embarking on strike.

Does this kid do anything else in real life other than reading transfer rumors?

The lady that asked a question now about how each presidential candidate would tackle the problem of flood affecting Rice farming asked an intelligent question.

Then, about audience engagement, it's almost an all-men affair. Women weren't given enough chance to present their questions.

Arise TV needs to improve on this aspect.

BlueRayDick:
What manner of 4ckery is this ?

https://www.nairaland.com/7420360/fg-begins-payment-8-month-salary

So Ngige intends to pay the 8 month salary backlog to CONUA members but won’t pay ASUU members?

Seankafor na to find out whether ur project supervisor whether he’s an ASUU member or CONUA member to know how to motivate him o

Senseless and useless party. Jonathan handled ASUU strikes much better than the lifeless one in Aso Rock.

Buhari is easily the worst Nigerian president in the history of the country's democracy.

It's not surprising that a leader, who many Nigerians aren't sure actually earned an SSCE certificate, is doing his best to cripple the education sector as he doesn't value education.

Ellexy:
The builder of Lagos has pulled out

Naso Buhari start that time. The Saturday that'll be good, it's from Friday that you'll know.

Tinubu will be a failure worse than Buhari if he wins.

sod09:
Abramovic dan go no more mouth
You buy we buy we they level now

sod09:
No peace for the wicked
We still they ground

Lol, na our learner of a coach give you mouth

Scummies don chop 2 goals within 11 minutes. At least, we go get some breathing space for here

With Potter in charge, we're in for a long ride.

Which serious team looking to win the league or at least make top four would sack a world-class coach for an amateur, trophyless coach from lowly Brighton?

Potter is better than Tuchel. Lols

The boy dey mention Liverpool. So you want Chelsea to wait for another twenty years like Loserpool before winning the league.

This boy no get himself at all