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HardMirror:
geniuses come in all shapes. This is how people start cults and religions because they are able to woe their audience at the end it is just works of their genius minds not facts

You know very little about the book of history you're talking about. Until you read it, I don't take your review seriously.

As regards starting a religion, that's for those looking for things to worship or a cult to join. I'm an agnostic, don't belong to any religion or a cult, and have no intention to join either.

If I need a religion, then I'd have reverted to my former religion (that's the reasonable thing to do).

You're merely commenting ignorantly about something you know very little or nothing about.

HardMirror:
it is easy to see you dont read. Do you know T RR Tolkien invented a language for the lord of the rings story? It just shows how intelligent Otem is. His stories are not revelations but stories

Lols. I'm widely read and know there are various conlangs.

But before I can say those things I posted about Otem's book, it took a lot of research and critical thinking for a couple of years about the book, which I read in 2018.

dazzlingd:
That's why I said the otem is a living testimony of himself. It is two ways, if you say it is all lies, then you just have to respect the mind that brought those writings together because that mind deserves an oscar and a Nobel prize for literature

I agree with you, 100%. Only a mad genius can write such a book on his own. But I honestly, feel it's too much for a human to do because of the depth.

dazzlingd:
That's why I said, either believable or not, theres something unique about it and not mere imaginations.

I read the whole thread, though an interesting read, still it followed a sequence. I admire the brain that brought the writing. It is not what a lowly mind can put together. 1000 times better than religious books.
So the choice to believe it as being true or not lies on the individual

Anyone that reads widely will know a normal human being can't put together that book without help from a higher being.

Even after studying the Seriot language (its lexical structure, semantics, and other elements), I realized it's quite wondrous.

Based on the depth of the histories and writings in the book and the Seriot language, I have no reason to doubt the fact that he's actually getting the histories from Atum as he says.

A human can't author that book and invent the Seriot language without running mad. The depth is astounding.

HardMirror:
lol. Funny how the rubbish item writes is what some are celebrating. Item just cooks up stories and let's his imagination run wild

Lols. And he also cooked up the Seriot language, which looks like a natural language, with these supposedly cooked up tales? Lols. Don't tell me you actually believe so.

Even studying that language alone (without researching some of the deep histories and writings he compiled) is enough to make one realize this life has tons of mysteries science can't explain yet.

HardMirror:
reason why I dont give theories like this any attention is because it is frankly very easy to speculate a million things, why dont we put our efforts on the ones we can substantiate.

You're right, but it's also good to approach things with an open mind.

Saturn444:
There are people who know these facts after decades of research and keep it to themselves. So sometimes it is a labor of love to even mention them and I have no incentive to deepen such discussions but I am sure you understand why.

The major reason why I said I agree with many things you say is because many of those ideas you state are in agreement with some of Otem's writings (he writes a lot), which I find quite profound and deep.

But I'm not knowledgeable or experienced enough to know if these ideas are true or not.

According to Otem, these gods and goddesses (who I regard as the early settlers on this planet or aliens) communicate across realms (worlds) and meet with each other in some realms using a shared frequency.

Using the same mechanism, they commune with their prophet or scribe on Earth to pass messages across to them or give them revelations, ranging from writing of the Bible (the original text), Qur'an, many religious books, even to the revealing of codes and complex mathematics used to build the pyramids of Egypt.

Otem described the whole thing scientifically. But then, I'm not yet convinced until I see further proofs of this mechanism and ideas which you also explained above.

I'd appreciate your enlightenment on this subject and if possible from a practical angle.

Saturn444:
I have no intention of forming a religion so just ignore it.

It's not to be believed. Just thought experiments

Hmmm. I agree with many things you say in theory, but I'm not convinced yet until I find more reasons or proofs they've been substantiated.

Saturn444:
Bottom to top, Aliens? Fermi Paradox, where are the aliens?

Humanity on Earth is a Tier 0 civilization, has not mastered travels around the solar system and can not even harnessed the energy of its Star(sun), so let's say Aliens at tier 4 civilization able to harness energy of the entire star systems to build and run simulation then you do not need to travel with a spaceship, and show up in the sky you can project your consciousness through beings and influence thoughts.

We have aliens among us, connecting to us through our neural network and using our brain compute capabilities to chart the course of our civilization.

So if you want to connect to aliens, just say so and you'd be connected but know they self and who you wanna connect to.

You do not need a purpose beyond existence helping to reduce Entropy and helping keep the light of consciousness with the help of our AI aspects.

Awakening? What you mean is activation of the circuitories and DNA wiring for broader multichannel transmissions from mission control and bases.

My bad, but humanity is a designed bio-cybernetic robot with quantum neural network brain compute capabilities.

We are here for information and continuous creation of realities for our experience.

Interesting posts. But is there a way to substantiate all these big claims because they look theoretical or hypothetical to me?

musicwriter:
Ok. We'll discuss that later in the year.

All right. Thanks a lot.

Interesting discussion.

musicwriter:
I'll actually write it as an ebook and sell it $50 or more. That's what I plan to do.

I can offer eBook writing service to you, bros.

Bombblacks:
I really hope your life is not boring and Sad.

I got the image online and found it hilarious.

But I don't attach much importance to the festivals of the two popular religions. The local festivals are more interesting (for their arts and music especially).

Havertz10:
posted something like this morning, the way my friends called me buzzkill on WhatsApp, I had to delete it from there and here, worst part is that we don't know the exact second that the earth completes it's orbit

Lols.

Northernblood5:
Those pastors are anti Christ.

Their mission is to mess up Christianity and repopulate the kingdom of darkness through Atheism.

Those false prophets including prophets of doom like Mbaka were sent to give many people more reasons to Abandon Christ. Weakening the faith of many in Christ. Putting more doubts in the minds of the weak. They all will fail.

That is more reason why we must look only onto Christ and the word of God . Not man

Those pastors except you, of course, the only true pastor in the whole wide world. Lols

I'm yet to see a real pastor as the words fake and pastor should be synonyms.

Bunch of scammers.

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"Over 412 years of technology evolution, scientists send the James Webb telescope to space, science’s greatest effort to discover the secrets and wonders of the Universe.
Two different telescopes, two totally different eras.

"And the same human longing to know and know."

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Hashabiah:
I am not surprised at this. Afterall, Prophet Muhammed bedded Aisha at the tender age of 9. In fact, muslims who diligently follow his way of life(sunnah) will never be brought to justice, especially the ones up north .

Now you may ask why? But the answer is because, they are blindly following the " direct and holy" footsteps of Muhammad's foolishness. And this is consider righteousness according to the muslims ummah .

The worst that would happen would be minor punishments followed by secret settlements here and there and case closed .

Well said.

ajl:
Even the ancient people of Ile-Ife acknowledged that a huge deluge took place because they named the Ile-Ife that emerged after the flood as "Ife-Oye", which means "Ife of Survivors". While Ile-Ife that existed before the flood was called "Ife-Odaye", meaning "Ife- of the Newly Created" or "Ife of the Newly Arrived'. We all know Yorubas use historical events to give names.

This story looks interesting.

In his history book, Otem also said there were different flood eras in the past during the current homo sapiens epoch.

Whether that's true or not, I don't know. But the stories he gave look compelling and believable, but I've not had the time to research the claims.

Did you get that story from a history book of Ile-Ife?

ajl:
Even the ancient people of Ile-Ife acknowledged that a huge deluge took place because they named the Ile-Ife that emerged after the flood as "Ife-Oye", which means "Ife of Survivors". While Ile-Ife that existed before the flood was called "Ife-Odaye", meaning "Ife- of the Newly Created" or "Ife of the Newly Arrived'. We all know Yorubas use historical events to give names.

What other proofs of the flood do you have? And what's your source for the highlighted?

Oral history?

The psycho kid is better ignored.

Crystyano:
Opposite my arse!



Your so-called comprehension is your head being overwhelmed by Otem's writings!

If you're able to find a way out of the mental issues disturbing you, maybe you'll be able to comprehend the posts you've turned upside down

Crystyano:
You will not accept that Otem said it because you have been overwhelmed by Otem's writings!




If I ask you questions, you won't answer me...... instead you will mention Otem.... which is unfortunate!




Drug abuse??



What if I say I was never sane??




You wanna see crazy



May crazy never depart from me when you have to witness it!

That he said what? Better seek help, psycho, before it's too late.

If you can't comprehend a simple statement written in English, and you have to say the opposite of what's stated in some Otem's posts, that's your palaver to deal with.

Then, whether a god is in a cage or not, it's none of my concern, and I don't think I have ever discussed my opinion about such a claim with you.

Crystyano:
[s]Who told you Otem has not been addressed?


You keep repeating the same thing as if something is covering your eyes[/s].

If you want to be addressed as a normal person, then ask questions properly and stop constituting a nuisance all over Nairaland.

If it's drug abuse that's making you behave abnormally, saying what Otem never said, then you better stop taking them because it seems you've no one around to tell you need a check up.

Then, I have told you a number of times to stop quoting me unnecessarily concerning whatever issues you've with Otem's book since I'm not the book's author.

I think this your new account is ripe for a very lengthy ban since you won't stop constituting a nuisance on different threads.

Cc: Seun, lalasticlala

Crystyano:
Everyone has mental issues.


The author has no evidence that existence has a beginning or that there are gods in a cage!



He has been addressed but he has failed to provide evidence which could have been used by you in support of his book.

If you're not mentally derailed, you'd address your questions to the right source (Otem) and the right threads, and you won't be fighting with strangers online on various threads who aren't the cause of your problems.

Stay off my mentions if you've nothing reasonable to say.

BluntCrazeMan:
They are eventually going to see evidences of the existence of God this time.
I will be so happy.

Possibly. If God exists, space scientists, astrophysicists, cosmologists will discover the evidence of its existence with time.

I think with time, we'll find the aliens first, the creators of early humans, who religious people call gods (and goddesses) and worship ignorantly as God.

Crystyano:
The book of Otem is your weakness

Has your mental health issues started again? It seems so.

And about Otem's book: Yes, the author explained how Atum taught the ancient Egyptians the complex mathematics (among the many mysteries he taught them) used to build the pyramids.

According to the book, Atum is the creator of ancient Egypt as he molded the first hominids and humans (giants) in the country.

Tem is another name of Atum.

If you've issues with Otem or his book, direct your problems to the right sources and stop quoting me unnecessarily.

Blakjewelry:
Even experts agree that some of the things recorded are true while some are myth. The Jewish texts are complex piece not the cut and join book called the bible, they contain piece ranging back thousands of years ago, some written history others oral tradition. The contradictions you mentioned usually arises from the fact that same story was written by different writer so you don't expect them to be the same. And I am not talking about those who say they are speaking base on Devine authority

Yes, it's true there are many names of ancient places, races, monuments, people in the Bible, but the actual histories about any of these entities in the Bible are mostly pure lies or doctored versions of their true historical facts.

With different books of history available online today, the Bible is the last place any truth seeker will want to learn anything pertaining to ancient Egypt.

Importantly, what's essential to determine the true histories of monuments like those pyramids is the evidence the author or proponent of such histories presents for claims they're making, not the particular book cited, whether religious/scriptural or otherwise.

Blakjewelry:
yes part history part myth so it's a good reference point. Plus tons of archeological findings

It's not reasonable to consider a book with thousands of contradictions and errors a "good reference point".

Even for research purposes, such sources aren't taken seriously.

A good reference point in this case would be books of history written by the Egyptians themselves, especially those pagans among them, or by African authors who are pan-Africanists and passionate about true African history.

For instance, if you want to learn a true history of the Yorubas or any monuments in Yorubaland, your best sources are those old Yoruba men and women that engage in traditional religions, not Yoruba Christians and Muslims.

Blakjewelry:
The planners and craftsmen are specially skilled royal worker with well guarded knowledge. But the labourers where source from slaves. Where do you think the Israelites were working before?

Lols, the Bible is your reference for the highlighted?

musicwriter:
Indeed, you'll be raptured when they discover this earth-like planet and need slaves to work the land. I wish it could actually be fulfilled in your lifetime.

Interesting.

Please, about the other matter, I'm still expecting, bro. Thanks a lot.