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DeepSight:
This is incoherent absurdity.
No worries, enjoy your Krauss inspired paradise.
I will stop quoting you, at least on this subject of nothingness.

HellVictorinho3:
You can't see it but you know it exists so don't call it nothing!!!!

DeepSight:
You read what you have written slowly.
You say - "By nothing I mean something that exists but . . . "

If you cannot see the problem with this statement, I really am wasting my time.

DeepSight:
Well, perhaps the bold word salvages this statement.
Do remember though, that nothingness does not exist. Indeed, if it existed, then that wouldn't be nothingness. An existent thing cannot be nothingness.

FreeStuffsNG:
No one can have a decent and meaningful debate with you. Please stay in your familiar zone of idle jesters, uncouth reckless exchanges and tribal bashers here on Nairaland. I will no longer respond to you.

DeepSight:
Perhaps you missed the post where I said that our reality is very likely a simulation. I am well acquainted with Plato's allegory of the cave also, which hints at the nature of the reality we may be experiencing, and this is in step with a great many ancient schools of thought which hold the same - and it is frankly my personal view that not only is this world illusory, and some sort of simulation, but there might be no way to tell that every other world is not one as well.

DeepSight:
An illusion, however, is still not nothing.

FreeStuffsNG:
You are not teachable. No vex, sebi Baba Akande wrote "books" ,not a book, your own understanding of "gift" is a negative word and you think Prof is a coward who speaks from both sides of the mouth and idle to the extent that he will work on those kinds of books he described in unsavoury words.

If you want to grow, please take time off social media and read. If you want to understand Prof Wole Soyinka's style, read his books. Simple. I would have ignored you for your rudeness but I reckon your response is from a genuine lack of understanding.

tollyboy5:
He wasn't refering to the book young man. I remember Soyinka criticize obasanjo book

DeepSight:
Feel free, especially if your intention is to conflate concepts and confuse your co-discussants.

FreeStuffsNG:
@ the bolded, Prof wasn't referring to Pa Akande's autobiography o. He was referring to other books and the experience he has had with some of such books.
Here's the complimentary way he described Pa Akande's book:

“a national gift that could not have been more instructively timed”.

Prof Wole Soyinka's kind of communication requires careful attention to the details in the words for you to comprehend.

DeepSight:
That doesnt justify the use of the word "nothing" - which tends to violently distort the conversation and the concepts at play.

HellVictorinho3:
There's nothing to understand here.


Failure to understand is different from an understanding of failure.


The universe just exists...


It's just another way something can exist.....


For as long as the properties that keep it the universe remain, the universe also remains..

It's actually the result of sudden movements..


It can only cease to exist as a result of sudden movements too.

HellVictorinho3:
Existence is the same as reality.

HellVictorinho3:
Since you know what you call nothing is actually something, don't insist that it's nothing.

DeepSight:
There is nothing like nothing.
By definition, nothingness does not exist and as such cannot be the recipient of any material expansion.

DeepSight:
Then it is contradictory to say that the expansion of space is a proven scientific fact.

DeepSight:
Good. Next question is - into what is the universe expanding?
I ask this because you asserted that there is no space outside the universe.

DeepSight:
Thanks for this - I have gone through it and its genuinely well considered stuff.
There was however, only one point that truly came across therein, for me - and that was the point about halving time or space and never arriving at a true zero - thus supposedly debunking the idea that the universe had a beginning.

While this is an interesting point, my view is that material things cannot be eternal in the past because only self-existing things can be eternal in the past. Matter, in my view, is not self existent, and the key pointer to this is its changeability. Self-existent things are immutable and matter is mutable. This is a delicate philosophical point which I have rarely been able to pass across to other people, but its a very valid one in my view. In light of this consideration I lean towards the view that we live in an open system in which there was an infusion of energy of a transcendental nature which led to the expansion of our universe (or universes).

DeepSight:
Do you acknowledge that our universe is expanding?

DeepSight:
Fairly straightforward logic good sir: and in this I draw from the premise of the Kalam Cosmological Argument which asserts that whatever begins to exist has a cause. Not only is this intuitively true, it is also self evidently true. A thing which commences, or begins, necessarily is prompted or triggered. And it could not be so prompted or triggered by itself: hence we deduce that it is so prompted or triggered by something beyond itself.

This is all that transcendence here refers to. Something beyond the thing which commences or begins.

Crystyano:
What's the essence of these things??

A001:
Science is a body of knowledge that helps us unravel and understand the unlimited mysteries of nature.

With this knowledge, we can develop our world and solve the myriads of problems nature throws at us, without necessarily being at the mercy of a divine entity that hasn't been proven to exist or if he/she/it exists, there's no scientific evidence for such.

Formerly known as natural philosophy, Physics is the fundamental discipline in science that deals with the study of matter, its motion and behavior through space and time, as well as the related entities of energy and force.

In this thread, I will be sharing key facts, discoveries, researches in Physics. The thread is for scientists and lovers of science.

Crystyano:
Why should you believe those things ?


If you want to know more about this,

Why not ask me the necessary questions?



What sort of wickedness is this?



It's like a rape allegation......



Why?



So,far these are the following reasons why I have been wrongly accused......:




The use of different monikers......... BUT there's no proof that I use them to scam....



Creating threads........ HOW on Earth is that a proof??





Expressing anger........... WHAT do you expect?? How would you feel if you were in my shoes?? Nobody will die because of asking questions........



Refusing an impossible job...........IS it every job you will do



Calling out people......... What would you do if you're being unimaginably accused of something that has no evidence




Magnoliaa, LordReed, Fuckthamods, Pr0ton, hupernikao, etc.....



If anything happens , hold these people responsible......



They consider what is not an evidence as an evidence......

LordReed:
And how am I supposed to do that?

musicwriter:
Bro, I am so sorry for the delay. I'll let you know but until I get back home probably by the end of the month.

musicwriter:
Because the pagan Roman god Mithras was worshipped on the DAY of the SUN i.e SUN day. Christianity as a pagan religion follows the same pagan tradition.