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This fugazi wannabe analyst no go pipedown. You never sabi basketball finish you wan enter boxing. No go disgrace yourself oh

Man's thinks because Tyson lacked stamina he was not technical

For una untrained eye once a boxer is a knockout artist he's not technical. I bet this mugu puts Tyson and Wilder in the same bracket

Go to any boxing forum or any boxing analyst and question Tyson's skills let's see whether you would not be laughed off the face of the earth

Free advice: No be all discussion you go chook mouth. It's better for people to think you're ignorant than to speak and clear all doubts

Lakers what the hell? How do you lose to the Rockets missing two of their starters?? Is this team even real?

It's a shame the Spurs, Portland, Kings and Pelicans are shamelessly tanking. The West has been a crying disgrace this year

No time for shakushaku. Straight to the point

Ibime:
Him no get extracurricular anything. He was asked to leave strictly for football reason years before he killed that girl.

He was asked to leave yet we refused a bid from PSG for him

Killed what girl? Person wey commit suicide. Make una try dey hold people accountable for their actions abeg

Ibime:
Boathand and Hummels were both chased from Bayern, only Hummels had a willing buyer

Boathand was chased from National team, Hummels was kept.

The market has spoken. Hummels is a more reasonable comparator for Boathand, not Terry or Silva.

Hummels was a sentimental buy back from Dortmund, no other relevant club in Europe wanted him.

As far as National team Boateng was oft injured and dealing with poor fitness. From 2019 season onwards and everyone knew this.

The question is what has the impact of Hummels being? What has he done since joining an inferior team like Dortmund.

His calamitous defending knocked his team out of a group with Ajax and Sporting Lisbon, then they dropped to Europa and got disgraced by Rangers of all teams

Ibime:
I had to check Ligue1 table today to see how far the werey has fallen. This is the kind of obscurity he deserves, not the limelight his illustrious teammates put him in. As much as Hummel's was lampooned, Hummels is still on our TV screens and in our consciousness while Boathand has disappeared. He should be happy he had a long contract at Bayern and could stay relevant for another 3 years after they asked him to leave

Boatank has come seen and conquered. No rule says he must stay 100 years at Bayern. No be him papa get club. He has won 2 trebles and achieved everything to be achieved at the highest level. How many black players you sabi wey dey get lengthy career like that?

Mind you him also get extracurricular gbege that hastened his exit from Bayern. We didn't want a Mason Greenwood type level even though his offense was not to the alleged Greenwood case. But we couldn't take any chances

E sure me if them ask this bobo now he would say Tyson was not technical. In his novice eyes being a KO artist means you no get technique. He will lump an agricultural boxer like Wilder in the same category with Tyson and Foreman

Khanben:
You have no idea of boxing my man. Foreman totally changed his fighting style for his comeback and do you know who he borrowed his defence from? The same Ken Norton you just said is not a technical boxer.
Norton just like Frazier got smoked because Foreman had a hammer for fist, if it lands especially early there is no technical know how to save you.
If you are sure of your Foreman stance bring up any boxing analysis that calls his first stint as a boxer as technical, any boxing historian will tell you he was someone who always got bailed out by his power. So please stop this talk of Foreman being technical.

You're chatting nonsense. Foreman's issue was never his lack of technique, his weaknesses were more mental and an occasionally dodgy cardio. George Foreman had a hellish jab and could actually box unlike Wilder. But JJC fans will use rumble in the jungle to assume Foreman was deficient

He was slower and more methodical on his return, mysteriously became a cardio warrior that could go all 12 rounds without gassing at 48! had nothing to do with any nonsense Ken Norton defense. Defense that could not keep him upright for 6 minutes against Foreman

You don't lack technique and suddenly recover it after more than 10 years of retirement. That's ridiculous.

Foreman was not bailed out by his power. He had power and could box!!!

Lol Airmark being put to shame again. What else is new

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Eibarman thought he could passenger his way to another CL title. Serial choker choked again when it mattered most. Missing a penalty in the first leg and going ghost mode in the second leg as usual

donlittle25:
Fury Is Technical than Ali and faster than Ali? The same Ali that threw 12 punches in 2.8 seconds or the same Ali that dodged 21 punches in 10 seconds?

In his eyes once someone is bigger it automatically means they are better. Someone like him would never have drafted Aaron Donald, Steph Curry or Russell Wilson. You must be big like elephant and ogologo like palm tree before you make his team

Khanben:
The fact that you keep mentioning Foreman shows you are one of this new age boxing fans who thinks it's all about throwing punches (I bet you are in the camp of Mayweather is boring).
Foreman in his early years was basically Wilder, he was a Bomber, which is a one trick pony and that trick was he could hit like a horse. And using only that trick he was the undisputed champion, and beat Frazier senseless.
Boxing FYI is a science, which in it's purest form and mastery is not just about who is throwing the most punches,it is to hit while not getting hit. Foreman in his early days is in no way a poster boy of technical boxing, so please Fury will destroy him and Frazier.
As for Ali Fury is bigger than him as fast as him as is the better technical boxer. Ali always had issue with technical boxers from Frazier to Norton and co.

You're clearly a JJC boxing fan. A complete novice, Confusing knockout power for lack of tekkers. If Foreman had no technique how was he able to retire then come back over a decade later and become a World champion at 45.

Foreman was an Olympic gold medalist and golden gloves winner. He actually had a proper amateur boxing background. Don't ever compare him to Wilder. You would look silly in the eyes of informed people

With all due respect there is absolutely nothing you can tell or teach me about boxing

Fury is great but fortunate to fight in arguably the weakest era in boxing history. His best opponent is agricultural boxers like Wilder (40 pounds lighter) who was still able to drop him 4 times, he was also bruised and bloodied by Otto freakin Wallin, just look at his record it's filled with the who is who of tomato cans. Think of what a more skilled and equally if not more powerful Foreman would have done

Norton was not that technical. If he was then he wouldn't get smoked so easily by Foreman.

Khanben:
He was also shoot less that 40% from FT, in some of those series and still won. The fact he was willing to take them as opposed to previous seasons where he would still just motor into blockages and get stopped made defenses go out to contest him.
There is a reason why people rail on Ben Simmons, it's not because he is missing shots, but because he refuses to take them

Oga stop telling nonsense lies over and over again. Giannis was taking just 2 3's per game from the Nets series up to the Finals and in 2 of the 3 series he was averaging 12%

Giannis was never a threat from the 3. And was not attempting enough for teams to try and stop him. Stop repeating this rubbish lie. Nobody would be foolish enough to chase Giannis away from the 3pt line. He was a mediocre 3pt shooter last season and is still a mediocre 3pt shooter

He also never shot less than 48% from the free throw line.

raumdeuter:
They rushed us just like in the first leg, If they had more quality it could have been tricky. Make dem just give us an easy team in the quarter

Our backline this season has been appalling. Thankfully Salzburg chose to foolishly bring down Lewandowski and give us early penalties

The key thing moving forward is for the likes of Gnabry and Sane to be fit and in top form especially in the games Lewandowski gets shut out. Gnabry's form has dropped a lot and there is even talk of him getting sold in the summer

birdman:
You can only support a man to the extent he is willing to support himself. When they asked him what his expectations were coming to LA, he could have helped himself with a better answer. If Westbrook will not help himself, why are we asking others to help him? Bros, na so life be - if you decide that you have strong head, your wiser friends and team mates allow you. You cant save a struggling man in water, both of you will drown.

WB needs to man up, get his wife, mom etc out of the media spotlight and face this alone. Curry had the same issue with Ayesha getting into the spotlight: it never ends the way you want it to end. And I dont understand why he is whining. Either you can play or you cant. Either you will play the way coach wants you to, or you wont. These are man decisions, and I dont think anyone, including teammates should be sorting this out for him. Is he sharing his salary with them?

Westbrick should be ashamed of himself trying to use his family as a shield for his rubbish play. Nobody is attacking his family tree so he needs to shut up with that. He is playing like dirt and not once has he admitted the need to do better. I hope the boos are louder every time he plays like crap. Let's see if he will fight everyone in the gym

Khanben:
If he can survive getting dropped by arguably the best puncher in history. I say he survives foreman, Frazier and Ali punches and wins all those fights because he is bigger, stronger and a better boxer than all of them.

Anyone that knows anything about boxing knows Earnie Shavers is the best puncher in heavyweight history

Secondly fighting is not all about size Mr Man. One rightly placed blow to your temple and down you go. It don't matter if you're 3ft or 8'1. And claiming Fury is a better boxer than Ali and Foreman is a bad joke, the same Fury that almost lost to Otto freaking Wallin??

I am telling you again that if he could be dropped by an agricultural boxer like Deontay Wilder, Foreman and Ali would drop him several times and he would lose too many rounds to win the fight. These were guys that could go 15 rounds so cardio is not an issue.

This fugazi analyst don come again. What we are saying is the only thing this era is better at is volume 3pt shooting. That Embiid or Jokic are competing for MVP and Giannis has won multiple MVPs as well does not disprove the argument infact it further goes to show that the greats of old would have also found ways to dominate in this era.

Btw who has Steph over Magic? Are they drunk? And if anyone says Steph is a top 3 all time PG he at least has the rings and regular season MVPs to make the argument

Tyson, Lewis, Foreman poor fundamentals? mr fugazi don come again oh. You never sabi basketball finish you wan enter boxing. Stay your lane oh abeg.

E sure me you cannot name 2 boxers outside Canelo in all the other weight classes. You can't name their best fights or who they fought.

I'm sure this mugu does not know Roy Jones Jr, doesn't know Joe Calzaghe or the 4 Horsemen in the 80's.

Man's really said how many boxers of old were technically gifted . This is your most embarrassing take yet

joshboo:
It's obvious you are trolling biko, Giannis won a chip cos he became an okay shooter from 3? , my guy Sabinus got nothing on you believe me, you really got jokes.

My guy is outchea lying his ass off

Giannis vs the Suns - 20% from 3
Giannis vs the Hawks - 12% from 3

Khanben:
But did they sag against him. NO

Dude nobody was outchea guarding Giannis at the 3 point line. Stop capping. He was taking like 2 3's per game

Khanben:
Joker won the MVP because he added an aspect to his game that centers before him were not judged on i.e passing and actually running an offense, which includes the ability to shoot from anywhere.
Giannis won the chip because he became an okay shooter from 3, which ensured that teams could no longer just sag off him.

Guy dey cap small small abeg nau

Giannis shot 12% from 3 against the Hawks and 20% from 3 in the Finals

Khanben:
So getting dropped and getting back up, is now a negative?
He fought for the championship after 2 years out, where he had to not only deal with addiction but also weight issues

Who said it's a negative or positive. I'm merely showing you that if a bang average boxer with no tekkers can drop Fury then it's laughable to claim more capable and mobile boxers like Ali, Frazier, Foreman wouldn't drop him at a higher clip

Khanben:
So being better shooters is not a skill improvement?

But we don't even know they're better cause that generation did not attempt 3s at all. It was not a factor of their game.

That's like saying Phillip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger are better passers than Joe Montana just because they passed for more yards per game. Had more TDs, And had better completion percentages. That would be asinine

raumdeuter:
This tactics will not work against serious and stronger side

Which kain werrey be 3-1-6 formation

Them rush us that first 5 minutes sef. Luckily we got the early pen and we ran riot from there

We will get tougher tests but I can't complain. The fact that nothing like away goals rule works in our favor. That was how PSG beat us last season

Lewandowski hattrick. Lmao 25 minutes never knack.

raumdeuter:
Naggelsman with his ridiculous lineup again

Practically a 3-1-6 as Musiala is an attacker

Shey he knows he will get fired if this team loses tonight sha. He's been a bit of an anticlimax

Roland17:
Help me ask them who dey play defense against these their bigs? Embiid and AD go survive 90s abi? You mean the ones that are spending more minutes on street clothes despite the offensive advantage?

I don't even know what their definition of skill is. Cos we were all here last season and last two seasons when they told us Giannis has no skills.

For all this argument the only player I can defer to is Jokic who can actually run an offense. The rest is like arguing who is more skilled btw Skip to my Lou and Steph Curry. Is your skills translating to Ws or Finals MVPs is all I care about

birdman:
Somehow you skipped the first 5 I mentioned: Giannis, KAT, Jokic, AD, Embiid, to focus on Bam. Nice try. Because you know those 5 destroy your argument. But lets leave that for now.

Guy you have no argument. Embiid is basically a poor imitation of Hakeem and is destroying the league. What does that tell you? I have no care for the rest of the guys you mentioned. Their supposed skillset barely leads their teams past the first round aside Giannis that has won a chip.

KAT is taking 6-7 3's a game. That's not versatility. That's 3 points spamming.

I can make exception for Jokic who runs his team's offense but that's about it

birdman:
I purposely did not mention Hakeem because he was not in KG's era, but if you go to Hakeem's era, which other big man was versatile? Please dont mention Shawn kemp or Ewing lol. Shaq at the end of Hakeem's era was very dominant, but he had to be in the post to do damage.

Ewing was not versatile? Na wa oh. Once player no dey shoot 3 pointer for your eye e no dey versatile be that. You people are too caught up in the aesthetics. Which player dey easy on the eye. Na so una dey judge versatility, whether e productive or not

birdman:
Webber was nice, but is he Embiid or Jokic of Giannis level? No. He was an expcellent passer with a midrange jumpshot.

Giannis is the only made man on this list. I don't see prime Webber that was going to to toe with Kobe and Shaq far behind the others

birdman:
David Robinson? Loool. stop it. The Admiral was a defensive machine, but needed Timmy D to get that ring. Look how Hakeem flogged him!

Karl Malone? What was his stats without the Stockton PnR. Could he shoot the 3? Or pass to any PG not named Stockton?

I can forgive Chris Webber, but The Admiral and the Mail Man? Bwahahahaha

Obviously Hakeem was better but The Admiral could score with the best of them. Don't play. The man dropped 71 in an NBA game

What is Stockton's stats without Karl Malone? Which kin argument be this

Roland17:
The capping off me. Shey na this era when dem don pad gloves abi na the one wen dem dey duck each other until your opponent old? Abi na the one wen referee dey save boxers before dem kill dem with punches? Ask them when Fury became popular and a World Champion? Who are the baddest heavyweight boxers in today's boxing? Dem fit list pass Wilder/ Fury and our Boy?

Can you imagine robotic and chinny Anthony Joshua fighting a Ken Norton or a Joe Frazier who might lose but is ready to die in the ring.

Fighting is not by the size of the dog but the fight in the dog.

I respect Fury but when someone looks at just his size and conclude he beats the greats of old when I saw a mediocre boxer 40 pounds lighter drop him severally and he barely made it through. That's laughable punditry

Khanben:
This is where I always have issue with all this old days were better. From Hakeem to Webber is 3 plus decades of basketball. If we start this new 3ball era from 2015, we are just at 7 years and guess what in that time we already have 3 bigs who are MVP caliber in Joker, Embidd and Giannis, and maybe 2 more depending on how you categorize them can legitly be all nba level, in AD and KAT.
In another 23 years I will bet the quantity of players will match up with those who have come before.

This is a super dishonest take. And nobody here has shown me exactly what today's bigs consistently do better besides 3pt shooting. These guys averaged 15 years or more at overlapping time intervals so I don't understand your point

Hakeem, Dirk, Shaq, Duncan, KG, The Admiral, Mailman. All league and Finals MVPs

Which of today's bigs or the ones 20 years to come will top the names I listed. Cos of all the names I'm seeing you list I can only see 1 finals MVP

joshboo:
fury would beat Ali, fraizer and co? Be like you don start to dey take comedy lessons, the jokes are funny sha, no offence kk. That being said, Lennox Lewis would rag-roll Fury talk more of the mentioned.

He knows nothing about Boxing. He just casted himself with that talk. A poverty boxer like Wilder dropped him 4 times what does he think would happen if he faced guys that could actually box

Khanben:
Tyson fury will beat the hell out of Ali, Frazier and co.
LT was 6ft 3 240lbs and was considered a unicorn when he played. Nowadays every single NFL teams has a player with better physical traits at OLB. By the way LT was for most of his destructive years blocked by TEs, there is a reason he is given as the reason for the preeminence of Left tackles in today's game.

You really know nothing about boxing and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way. In your eyes once someone is bigger it automatically means they are better. Just because Tyson outboxed a guy like Deontay Wilder with zero boxing nous doesn't mean he beats the Alis, Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis etc

Tyson Fury has a 40 pound advantage on Wilder yet he was floored 4 times by an agricultural boxer like Wilder, what do you think happens when he faces people that can actually box?

It's abundantly clear now that just like Vince McMahon you have a size fetish. You don't take into account their fundamentals, motor and their innate gifts and smarts. You would make a terrible scout

What is Aaron Donald's size relative to other defensive tackles right now? In your eyes size is the sole determinant of greatness. Yet Draymond Green at 6'7 is comfortably playing center in this era.

birdman:
Cool, I'll give you that, KG over KAT. Now how many bigs in KG's day could do similar. Timmy D, who else. Today we have countless bigs with similar skillset. Embiid, KAT, Jokic, AD, KD, Giannis. Even second tier folk like Bam. We haven't even looked at the rookie/sophomore class yet! I didnt even add Zion! The league is far deeper and more skilled.

When KG came out of high school, that was like phenomenal, like we never see that before. Now, guys are coming out of high school and balling within one season.

Lol. Bam? Now you're just taking the piss

Are you serious right now? Didn't I tell you the only thing bigs do better now is shoot the 3? Did you watch Shaq before he was a 300 pounder? In his Orlando days when he was still slim?

Zion? Lmaoooo. Zion is basically Blake Griffin with more melanin. Stop mistaking genetics for actual skills

Did you watch Hakeem? Chris Webber? David Robinson, Karl Malone?

I'm asking you again. What is today's league and bigs better at besides spamming 3 point shooting