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Roland17:
It's like comparing Reggie Miller's, early part of R. Allen's era to Curry's era of 3 point shooting and then going ahead to make a point that Curry achieved it in significantly lesser amount of games as the main argument against Miller/ Allen.

Bird achieved his last 50 point game aged 32, if that doesn't give anyone the context about both era's and scoring then nothing will.

When we say average Bronsexual no sabi anything about the game they will call us old heads and other foolishness. How do you call yourself an analyst and gloss over such a basic fact.

Roland17:
Why you dey waste time with the education? Pesin get mouth to talk about era but struggles to understand the dynamics in the use of the word era. These things write themselves...

Lol you have to check em for those wey dey uninformed about basketball that might just be viewing as guests. A guy is taking almost 3x more 3's than Bird did. He better be scoring more 50pters

So basically spamming more 3's is what defines the greatness of an era is what our resident basketball aficionado is telling us

birdman:
The man is 37. Obviously this Lebron is not at his peak. The fact that he can run with the young uns and not need oxygen is a miracle. We thank God o

Lol make we leave that story. That is the common trope we always hear even when he was younger. Then when he loses it's cause he is lacking help, so which is it. It's either he makes nobody better or does not have sufficient talent. Which would be laughable to suggest if we roll out his support cast to that of other historical greats

Larry Bird at his peak was taking 3 3pters per game. Jayson Tatum is taking 8 3's per game but our resident Sherlock does not know why Jayson Tatum is matching Larry Bird so quickly. Critical thinking nsogbu di

For context Jayson Tatum attempted 15 3's today

Good to see our Akwa Ibom brother doing well. Was worried he was going to flop with the Celts

As for the Nets. I don't know what it is but something is terribly wrong with that team. There's just a softness and lack of grit that their talent cannot solve. I worry about them in the play in game and I won't be shocked if they failed to make it

aliondo:
To think that Lebron is having one of the best seasons of his career and the Lakers are underperforming is absurd...

Lool but they said he makes others better. So why are they always complaining he has no help. People really need to pick a struggle

I told y'all Jayson Tatum was that dude didn't I?

Tellwhat:
Honestly that narratives is overplayed

Everywhere I go keep seeing this same thing as if harden is the only one who's had a bad game in the playoffs

When you check his playoffs you will realise that him being a choker is heavily overrated

I just don't get the hate towards harden

Is it his fault that he lacks support and most teams double him especially during playoffs

If cp3 was healthy this harden being a choker talk would have never come up. If harden and Kyrie were healthy last season him being a choker would be a ring of the past

Harden just needs a ring so he finally gets the respect he deserves.

Harden I phenomenal and special. He tormented the league in the era of the great Holden state

I just randomly screenshoted this I didn't even know it would one day come in handy.

If you want to argue further we can breakdown his numerous chokejobs and playoff underperformances

birdman:
I had to slap my hands from the keyboard

I wan know whether na the same Harden wey get 11 turnovers for one game or the same Harden that shot 2/11 against a Spurs team without Kawhi

joshboo:
i no go even bother reply am, except no be same james harden wey dey OKC before. It's just a couple months more the real harden would show up.

I dey confuse make e clarify

Tellwhat:
This complete bullshit and media propaganda

Harden definitely doesn't Choke in the playoffs. A bad game or two doesn't make someone choke
And besides his supporting cast in those playoffs were weak not to even talk about the strength of his opposition against him alone. If cp3 was available harden would have won a chip

Harden was loyal to Houston and made them reach a position where they shouldn't have reached he was the backbone of that team year in year out for years and then when he realized the team wasn't importing he decided to leave and wanted to go to Philadelphia but the rockets didn't want that and then they made business with the nets. Lots of people complained about harden yet he carried the nets and wasn't selfish to be the third man and despite that he was still dropping reasonable numbers and triple doubles.

Last year despite the hamstring harden still tried his best and was available whereas Kyrie was unavailable. Nets were so close to beating bucks and would have likely gotten a ring if they had won that series

I don't even understand why everyone likes to shiit on harden both with lies and half baked truths.


Harden is na awesome player and the most unique offensive player in NBA. A healthy harden and embiid will take on any team. Leaving an unmotivated nets was the best choice. Harden and embiid both want to get a ring badly unlike kyrie and durant... Besides a harden/embiid ring is more credible than harden/Durant/kryrie

Did you just say Harden doesn't choke in the playoffs? I know you didn't just say Harden doesn't choke in the playoffs

When I say LeNomad na professional stat padder. Baba still enter court down 30 entering the 4th quarter. Nothing consign am with winning games again now na just to pad numbers dey go

Ohh btw I wonder what he thinks about the play in game now

And that DeAndre pass

joshboo:
As in, Bron would always be Bron. Now him dey try out the blame in Pelinka who Cleary wanted buddy heild etc. Bron na chief assembler, once the assembling cast him go jump ship. Now na that young Cleveland team him Wan go scatter. Imagine all this nonsense & he expects people to recognize him as the Goat? imagine letting Caruso go just because you Wan assemble team. No be curse, dem no go make the play-in, talk more of the play-offs

I'm convinced his ancestors were Fulani or Berber. Always in migration. That's why I call him LeNomad

Android22:
In the words of Carmelo Anthony "Nigga, you the GM". That is what he said to Lebron.

Lol abeg free these dishonest folks. If that team was clicking we would be hearing LeGM and all other nonsense. Nobody would mention Pelinka's name as the brains behind the roster. They want to have their cake and eat it

birdman:
Guys everything is not hate all the times. Sometimes be calming down. It was Pelinka that tried to coopt AD and Lebron into this, saying that they supported his lack of action at the trade deadline. Those ones came out through their camp that said they had no hand in it. That is as far as we all know. Everything else is speculation to draw traffic. I cannot blame Lebron for refusing to be used in Pelinkas politics. Everyone should man up and own their actions.

Some of these issues are so straightforward, the way you guys try to lebron everything, ko make sense. My 2 cents.

Lol. Why do you Bronsexuals always have an excuse to bat for this man even when he's in the wrong.

I bear no hate towards him. I am not a fan yes but you will almost never see me accuse him of what he's not guilty of. There's no critique of mine about him that extends beyond basketball lines.

Are you going to sit here and pretend Lebron is happy and didn't want Pelinka to make a move? Whatever you feel about Pelinka don't you think his readiness to acquiesce to Lebron and his posse is what led to this mess?

LeNomad's constant fraternizing and flirting with other GMs does it paint Pelinka in a good light? Is that leadership? To not have the principles to stick to your troops and battle to the bitter end?

Khanben:
A chip is a chip, i swear if it was anybody except for Lebron people will not be talking about any covid break. Timmy has 1 ring because of a lock out shortened season and nobody talks about it.

Bwahahaha. Don't even go there. 2 of LeNomad's 4 chips came from lockout/shortened seasons and not even a notorious anti Bronsexual like myself ever uses it as a counter argument to discredit Lebron Blames even further.

Khanben:
The Celtics won one chip with that trade and after fleecing the Nets has done nothing with all the boat load of picks they got. This is my very issue with all this lebron slander, teams have traded away way more picks for less results, than what the Lakers have gotten and nobody gives them grief for it. Worse we talk as if they have no assets, if the Lakers put Lebron up for trade next season teams will still put up an unprotected lottery pick. AD is still worth multiple 1 round picks, so which future did they mortgage away.

They won a chip and went to the Game 7 of another NBA Final. They were competitive for 4 seasons Compare that to the Lakers who were relevant for one season and their future is now in jeopardy

The Celtics were able to parlay those picks from the Nets to get Kyrie, Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. They might not have won a title but they made two Conference Finals and at least have key pieces to keep competing. So yes they did fleece the Nets by squeezing as much juice from KG and Pierce and still able to flip those to Tatum and Brown

Nobody is giving you a lottery pick for a Lebron on an expiring contract. Don't con yourself. Especially with this Bronny business

As for AD only a stupid GM will give up multiple picks for a guy that has clearly shown he cannot lead a team. And has zero track record of being healthy 10 years in the league

Khanben:
Under Kobe the Lakers had 7 years without a chip, after Shaq left, nobody killed him for that. This Lakers team still has a shot at another title till Lebron contract runs out.
The Raptors gave up and all-star, a shooter and a 1st round pick for a one year rental. If Lebron had been a member of that team, you will be screaming to the heavens that he was the one who forced the deal.

PS: D Ainge was practically worshipped in Boston for more than a decade and all he had to show for it was 1 championship

Are you seriously comparing what the Raptors gave up for Kawhi to what the Lakers gave for AD? They got Danny Green and Kawhi for essentially DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl and Keldon Johnson. Are you kidding? How do you even compare that to what you gave up for AD?

What shot? I promise you if not for that bubble break no way LeNomad wins that last title. With this Russia and Ukraine situation maybe another break will fall LeNomad's way who knows?

Danny Ainge got to two finals, only missed a chance at another final because KG was hurt. The Celtics maximized their trade. The Lakers haven't. Fluking a championship and fading to irrelevance while mortgaging your future is not maximizing

birdman:
I for one am happy that DeRozan did not end up with the Lakers, even though I knew that is what Lakers really needed. It would have reduced DeRozan to a marginal star, and for sure he would not be in MVP conversations today. Yall know how long I have been rolling with LeKing, but I call it how I see it. If you go from team to team, you should expect these type of things to happen. Its the same thing happening to Durant now. Its not good, its not bad, its just how these things work. I am very happy to see Deroan get his just props after all these years.

My personal reading on the Lakers: Even though Lebron, Magic and other Laker greats are against Pelinka on this roster issue, Pelinka will not be fired. Why? He is that guy. Those of you in corporate environments know what I'm talking about. The green snake under green grass that knows how to survive by throwing everybody else under the bus. He is going to stroke Jeanie Buss ego and do everything to survive, including trading Lebron and AD if need be.

I am interested to see how this plays out - this is class 301: Black in Corporate America - After they have hired and promoted you, how to save yourself from the orcs coming for you. Some players are still in class 101 - How to stay hired.

The fact that Klutch Sports and Lebron are trying to make Pelinka the fall guy is so sad and laughable. From 'Rob wants his respect' to this. Then he wonders why nobody respects him. Leadership is not only about taking the glory when things pan out, part of being a great leader is taking ownership when shyte goes south as well.

The damage had been done building this team with LeNomad's approval. A real rider would go down on his shield not put this on Rob. Jeannie would be smart to stick with Rob and offload LeNomad if it hits the fan

Incase World War 3 goes down. It was nice knowing y'all

Roland17:
As in ehn! I no even bother respond to that particularly post. As though LeBum is supposed to improve in the coming years. A player that has progressively declined in most aspects of his game, especially on defense, is the one he is reminding the Laker nation has 2 more seasons (including this season) to endure. LeBum that averaged 23 pts in the post season the last time we saw him, can't carry the Lakers by himself, either with younger players or without a healthy AD! Some stories just write themselves.

Most of these guys are not Laker fans, they are just LeBum fans and anything that protects debunked narratives is fine and dandy!

The great teams do not merely think for now they think for the future as well. No serious team wants to fluke one bubble ring and remain irrelevant and hamstrung for years to come. Bronsexuals cannot see the trees for the forest. They have hailed the decision to get a perma crock AD but at what cost?

Even if they want to defend the decision to trade for AD who had prior to joining LA missed at least 12-15 games a season, does it make sense to still attack Pelinka for not moving their only pick in the next 5 years for John Wall?

Oya nau. Shebi the guys that they deemed were not good enough to contribute have been shipped out. Time for AD to carry the load

Khanben:
The draft is a crap shoot. Nobody has figured out the formula on how to quantify a can't miss prospect. That is why, if you already have a bonafide number 1 option in place, drafts picks are meant to fill up the team. The goal of an nba team is to win, not to be competitive. Ask the Raptors and they will tell you that the past 4 years were better than all those years they kept losing in the playoffs. Yes they only won 1, but if you hook Masi and co to a polygraph they will tell you it was worth it because they have proven that they have what it takes to build a team which can win it all because they have done it before.

PS: The worst is when it comes to legacy, nobody cares about how many playoffs you made, they all care about if you won a chip.

Are you comparing the Lakers to a backwater franchise like Toronto Raptors? Do you see anyone scrutinizing Toronto? There's a difference between expectations for both teams. And there will always be. Toronto is never expected to win a championship and have been punching above their weight all this time

Bear in mind they didn't mortgage anything for Kawhi. They lost nothing so I don't quite understand this comparison

donlittle25:
I don’t get why people are missing the point.

You can draft well and compete for 7-8 years when the time is right or you can put pieces together and compete for 3 years, and maybe with luck win a championship. Losing so many cards while trying to put pieces together is the bad way to go like the lakers. They just don’t have any bargaining chips. None. Hopefully they can become a FA destination once again but most guys are plying their trade with other markets these days and are able to attract serious endorsements which only big teams could offer before. That was the selling point of these big teams but you could find that almost anywhere now if you are good enough.

The selling point of the Lakers used to be that it was the glamour franchise but the difference now is that the margin for error is shrinking. You can play for small markets and still get your flowers as we're seeing with Giannis and Ja.

The Lakers getting to just 1 Finals after 4 years of AD and Lebron would be a disaster

Khanben:
Lebron is still under contract till 2023, AD till 2025. If they want an earlier reset, they can trade both and recover all of their assets. You are talking as if the Lakers did not experience worst Purgatory when Kobe was there, or immediately after Magic left.
The Lakers if they play their cards right still have options. They can either pay a huge luxury tax next year,or blow it up and reload with a bus load of picks.

This man is clearly in dreamland. What do you think you're getting for an aging Lebron on his last legs and last year of contract? And AD? Lmaoooo

Roland17:
Help me ask am how the Suns became what they are today? You think the Suns stumbled on the Finals? Why did CP3 choose to join a young Suns team over more established teams? How about the Grizzlies? Did they just stumble into 3rd position in the same dreaded Western Conference? I have been tracking the Grizzlies on this thread since Ja was drafted, receipt full everywhere...How about the Warriors? Post KD and Without Klay and an off/ on Green, how did they stay competitive? The Heat? anyone? How about what the Cavs are doing? If I were the Cavs, I will resist any temptation of having Ajala return to Cavs. They have a great thing going on there with Garland (22), Mobley (20), Allen (23) and it will be disastrous for them to lose those guys because Ajala wants to return home to retire and play with his son.

Dan Gilbert is smarter than that. He has squeezed the title he can get out of LeNomad. Let the Touareg nomad carry him kaya go elsewhere. Hopping from team to team like kangaroo

The draft is still the best way to remain competitive for as long as possible. There are 10-15 teams trying to win every other year so even if you load up on free agents a chip is not guaranteed as the Nets and now the Lakers are coming to find out

Khanben:
So if I gave you a bet, Lakers or the Timberwolves, which ones will win a championship first, who will you pick?

Lol. You're dealing in extremes. For every Timberwolves there's always a Milwaukee, San Antonio, Golden State.

Why are we using a traditionally badly run franchise like Minnesota as your point of reference.

I can bet though that neither Lakers or Timberwolves is winning this season though and I can also bet the Lakers aren't winning no championships next season

joshboo:
Exactly, in chucks words, availability is the biggest assest any team can have. Imagine having glass house AD and john wall who has a worse injury record to AD not to mentions playing with lBJ which automatically reduces your productivity in all stats.

I don't even understand are these guys with a straight face asking for the Lakers to trade their only pick for the next 5 years for John freakin Wall? A guy that's missed at least 40 games in the last 5 seasons

Lebron and his army of Bronsexuals are crying and making Pelinka the scapegoat because he has made his bed and is refusing to lie on it.

Khanben:
What has Boston done with all the Nets picks, what has the sixers gotten for all the tanking for the process, the Timberwolves, currently has about 4 lottery picks on their team and they are going nowhere fast. Picks are worth nothing when compared to established talent.
You talk as if the Lakers are not the number one FA destination in the nba as long as they have their house in order.

That's on Boston. Not every team is going to draft smart. What did Brooklyn do with the old men they got from the trade? 1 playoff series win?

Lol again Philly did not draft with sense. Whose fault? Is it anybody's fault that Philly drafted two #1 picks at PG that cannot shoot to save their lives in this modern era?

Timberwolves are going nowhere but they are ahead of the Lakers that have mortgaged their future in the standings. Ok

The same way you can miss on draft picks is the same way you miss on FA or you're forgetting how the Lakers struggled after Shaq left? No be Lakers pay Luol Deng and Timofey Mozgov or you think it's everytime Lakers will be able to attract good Free agents?

Khanben:
Again with the false narrative, lottery picks mean nothing, there are more lottery picks who have fall into the bust, and under achievers bracket than they have been lottery picks who have validated their drafts status. When you sign a 34 as a FA, you either have players who from their first season have shown they are ready to win now or you trade whatever you have to maximize the late prime of your FA. If the Lakers had not made the trade they would not only have not won, but right now they will not even be in contention. Does a team of lebron, Ingram and Ball beat any of the top 4 team in the east of even the suns and GSW as constructed. The answer is an emphatic NO.

PS: They laker have only traded their picks up until 2026.

No shit Sherlock. However a lottery pick that has to play with a top 3 to top 5 player of all time surely is less likely than most to be a bust because of the situation they find themselves.

If the Lakers had not made that trade they might not have won but suggesting that a combination of Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, Lebron, Caruso would not have contended is a sad joke. If not for team chemistry and good coaching wetin make Jordan Poole, Mikal Bridges, Jae Crowder and Cam Payne better than what the Lakers would have had?

Anyway we are seeing the benefits of their maximization.

A fluke bubble chip and 1 first round exit, they will probably need to win two games just to make the playoffs in their 3rd year

3 players consuming over 75% of their cap space for this season and the next. Two of them with 15 seasons or more in the league, the other a perma crock

A bunch of one year rentals that nobody wants

No first round picks till 2027.

Khanben:
No matter how good Lebron his, the Lakers talent was not good enough to win because they drafted the wrong players. What has the promising players done since leaving to show they could have won with them? Nothing, Ingram and Ball seem to also have the injury bug, Kuzma and Hart are just rotation pieces, so what exactly did they lose

You mean the great Lebron who makes everyone better couldn't improve two lottery picks and Kuzma and Hart? So what goes through people's heads when they spew foolishness about how LeNomad makes others better?

Bear in mind guys like Lonzo and Ingram are just hitting their primes. Anyway I hope the bubble chip was worth it. The Lakers essentially gutted their future for that. 1 year of joy for 10 years of famine

aliondo:
Healthwise aside, Wall is an upgrade on Russ..

I just rolled out the stats of how he performed the last time we saw him play. Numbers don't lie

Tellwhat:
What's with this LeNomad everywhere . You really dislike this LeBron

But you sef check am is he not a nomad? And yes I'm not a fan. I don't hide it

Khanben:
I keep hearing this narrative that Lebron trading the young Lakers talent was some how bad. Please does anyone think they would have won with Ingram, lonzo, Kuzma and Josh Hart.
IMHO you are trading consecutive 1st or 2nd round exits for 6-7 years for 1 chip an that is only because of AD's continuous injuries. If the dude could stay healthy for a playoff run, they might still have one shot at it

If LeNomad makes everyone better like Bronsexuals swear he does why can't he mentor 4 promising players that would have been primed to shoulder the burden from his neck by now?

You think if not for COVID that allowed AD and LeNomad 3 months of rest they would have won the title?

You're banking on a guy that has already showed you previously that he's good to miss 12-15 games a season. Ok.

Anyway their bed has been laid, now is the time to lie pon it

birdman:
He is not playing because of mgmt decision. Wall shoots better than WB. More assists, less TO. Thinks better on the court. Again, go check the stats. 20pts 8 assists average last year. Lakers and Rockets exchange large contracts of players not working out == Win win win.

Lebron is 37. The heir apparent doesnt want any smoke. It is what it is.

It's evident that you're still using Washington eye to look at John Wall.

John Wall last season shot 40% from the floor on 18 shots. Averaged 7 assists and 3.5 turnovers. A 31% 3pt shooter. That is to say him and Westbrook, omo iya kan ni won. You just dey wind yourself if you think Wall is a significant upgrade on Westbrook and that's not even factoring his availability issues

Essentially you would have a scenario where Wall, AD are out and LeNomad would have had to carry the load himself