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airmark:
Maybe a Man city fan that started watching football post-2000 or one that knows nothing about football.



Try it let's see. Is it a Chelsea team that won the Uefa cup few months to the start of the season and won the Uefa super cup too, beating Real Madrid in the final? Ogbeni, i dey wait for your proofs o.

Lmaoooo they won a B rate Cup winners Cup. the previous season and not 98/99. Nice try though but I don't understand what 97/98 achievements have to do with 98/99

airmark:
Best Epl team ever is what we are talking about here. The quality must reflect in UCL of that same season unless beaten by a bigger club. Liverpool, a team in Epl destroyed that same Man city home and away in the quarters. That's enough to tell you that 100pts was a ruse.

Best EPL team ever domestically. They have all the records to prove it.

There is nothing that concerns UCL with EPL competition. They don't face the same teams so e no follow.

Was Liverpool the best team in England since they beat Man City in Europe? Answers on a post card

The Conor McGregor hype train derailed again. If this guy is not the most over hyped and overrated fighter in combat history I don't know who is

airmark:
We are talking about quality of teams in contention and Man city amassed those points because other big teams were on a decline. In fact, Man city were exposed by Liverpool in UCL, they got sodomised home and away.

The United team of '99 and Chelsea of 2004/2005 were not their mates in quality. Only Debruyne could make that United team of 99, if i want to be tolerant.

That is subjective. A City fan will never agree with you and so would many neutrals as well that only De Bruyne would make their respective teams. Not that it matters anyway. What is not subjective is the results. Same way you can prove big teams were in decline is the same way I can prove that the teams that were competing with United and Arsenal were utter rubbish respectively in those years you want to reference.

I have told you not to bring CL conversation into the banter. How you fare in the league has absolutely feckall to do with the CL. In fact it defeats your argument if this same team won absolutely nothing in England while City won 5 of the 6 trophies available

airmark:
I had trashed them in my replies to Dayo. Find another team,. to call the best Epl team ever.

Why are they not the best? They scored the most points, won the league by widest margin, had the most wins, won the domestic treble so why are they not the best EPL side? Note I'm limiting it purely based on domestic competition before you come and obfuscate the matter with CL which is beyond the scope of discourse. Show me any other team that has matched their domestic achievements

BikeMan:
Sucks that they still gave him the same trophy as Leicester.

Why? They won the league with double digits

airmark:
Which side is this?

The side that scored the most points and won a domestic treble

olabode89:
@A40

You see wetin dem do Conor McGregor ?

Lool I wasn't remotely surprised. Poirier made me some cool cash because I couldn't understand for the life of me how he was a 3.5 odds underdog. That was free money

Crazy to me that most people swallowed the McGregor hype hook line and sinker. Poirier is such a different fighter from the first fight it's not even funny. Make McGregor go WWE, he's not beating any top guy in his division anymore

popizaino:
So man city with 100points is the best all team ever ?

As far as EPL is concerned that City team was the best ever. The point total don't lie

NextD18:
Okay fine! Enrique is better than Simeon, Allegri and Arsene Wenger combined.

All this gymnastics just to compare Klopp to apprentices.

Enrique has played 3 CL Finals and won a league title outside Spain?

NextD18:
He faced Klopp in Europe and embarrassed him with a comeback to win Europa.

A manager winning UCL isn't fully a yardstick to measure greatness.

Anybody can win it, Di Matteo did, he still no get level reach Simeon that hasn't won it.

Europa League is a Mickey mouse tournament. I'm sure your team is not competing to play in Europa League

A manager winning a UCL and winning league titles in two competitive leagues is a legitimate yardstick to measure greatness

Di Matteo literally was in charge for 6 matches. He was a caretaker. You must be Papi Luwe in disguise to compare

First Major UFC event this year.

McGregor vs Poirier I'm particularly intrigued by the fact that a lot of people have Poirier as such a huge underdog. I struggle to believe Conor who has fought just twice in the Octagon in almost 4 years is such a huge favorite

Kamaru vs Burns finally happening February, Adesanya vs Blachowicz in March

And for me the biggest match Stipe vs Ngannou 2

NextD18:
So it's justified to say Di Matteo is better than Emery, Allegri, Simeon, Wenger and Conte combined? Because of UCL?


Make una dey calm down with UCL hype abeg. Chelsea won it while siting on 6th position in EPl. Europa is even more stressful and hard too, if it was easy, Klop would have won it when he went there.

Lol. So you're equating Matteo to Klopp.

This guy is a clown

NextD18:
My point is that those managers I listed got more achievements than Klopp.

How they got it or how much they spent in getting them isn't actually my concern.

Fact has it that Klop has achieved lesser compared to them.

Sorry you are just yarnin Okoto dust at this point.

You even mentioned Ligue 1 where PSG spends 5x it's competition. What did he achieve in Europe? When he faced his mates he oversaw the greatest chokejob in CL history while Klopp oversaw the greatest comeback in CL history

You expect Klopp to dominate Europe with Dortmund who had no money? Fall back son

Android17:
They will not always be this bad. New teams will look disjointed initially. GSW lost their first game with KD by 30 to SAS. The issue with this Nets team is, they have zero depth and the starters are handicapped defensively. I know they will be this offensive juggernaut but dang, so far, I am not convinced they can unseat LAL & LAC in a 7 game series.

The irony is even with the guys they traded before they landed Harden they were still a .500 team so while the complaints of depth are valid I am seeing a team with no real offensive or defensive identity.

Everybody is just standing around on defense and on offense they are not even running any real sets, just relying on the brilliance of their Big players entirely

NextD18:
I now get your point. But then, achievements are the major things that speaks for managers to be considered as legends.

Klopp is still coming up in that aspect, A manger with 4 major trophies in 20 years neva reach.

Make we know the levels we place these managers abeg.

In 2 years time, he'll be considered as a small boy to Flick too.

When you give Klopp teams he can spend £150m per annum without having to sell anybody else then let me know

Since Klopp came to England he has the lowest net spend among all the top teams. He has always taken over moribund teams with no money to spend living on past glories

Learn to argue with context

NextD18:
Lampard has a better head to head result against Mou, is it safe to say he's better?

Does he have a better H2H record than Mourinho and Wenger as well over several matches with trophies to back it up, abi wetin be this weak question?

NextD18:
Klop has 4 major trophies in 20 years of coaching.

Emery has 4 majors trophies, he even disgraced Klopp in 2016 to win Europa.

Allegri is by far better than Klopp in all ramifications. Na English press dey deceive una.

Klop is still far behind compared to what senior managers have achieved. He never reach.

Someone that even got relegated in Germany.

Major trophies pass major trophies.

Any intelligent analyst will always apply context to their argument. A manager good enough to have a better head to head vs Pep and Mourinho over a large sample size would perform at same level if not better than them armed with the same quality of players over the course of his career

Klopp has more CLs and CL Final appearances than Allegri

I will not even dignify the Emery banter with a response.

NextD18:
Klopp is a small boy compared to Emery and Allegri.

20 years of coaching with less than 5 major trophies is a big shame.

All I see is a bunch of sankwa trophies. Juventus will trade 15 Scudettos just to lift another CL title

Klopp competed with Bayern Munich and won two titles under its watch till it could compete no more after losing his best legs

Came to England and competed and eventually defeated the best EPL side ever.

I repeat no knowledgeable analyst will compare apprentices like Allegri never mind Good Ebening to Jurgen Klopp

CapitalCee:
So Di matteo is better than Allegri and Conte?

Are you comparing Klopp to Di Matteo abi which kin dead analogy be this

NextD18:
Winning record that can't give you trophies enough to compete when legendary managers is a useless record.

Two decades of coaching with less than 5 major trophies is a disgrace.

Emery, Zidane, Simieon, Allegri, Conte, Heynckes and Ancelloti are better than Klopp.

I don't want to disrespect Mou and Pep by adding their name in that list.

Klopp has shown what he can do with a quality squad. League titles in two leagues, 1 CL win, 3 CL Finals appearances, one Europa League Final.

Most of the people you listed there can't match that. Really you don't know what you're talking about

NextD18:
Klopp took over the second most successful team in England, it took him 5 years to win the league.

Pep took over the second most successful team in Spain as of 2008, it took him 4 years to achieve more major trophies than Klop has achieved till date.

Stop disrespecting Pep by comparing him to Klop, one on one, Klop no fit body Emery or Allegri in terms of achievement.

4 years not 5. You can't win the league the year you were hired alaye

Are you a joker? Second most successful team that had not won a league title since 1990 and a CL since 2005 and was not relevant home and abroad.

Barca were two years removed from back to back league titles, a CL win and getting to the semis the year before Pep was hired.

Imagine comparison

Anybody comparing Klopp to Emery and Allegri is not one to be taken seriously in any football debate

NextD18:
Step by step, how's Klopp better than Emery?

When we are done with that, we'll move to Allegri, then Conte.

How's he better than Emery, considering their achievements and how many years they've managed.

Lmaoooo. This guy must be a troll. See the people you're mentioning with Klopp. Klopp that has a winning record vs Pep,Mourinho, Wenger and Pochettino na him you dey compare to those apprentices

NextD18:
You even had to give Klopp accolades in some areas against Pep.

Pep and Klopp no be mate for anything.

Klopp will have to boss the likes of Ancelotti, Emery, Zidane, Allegri, Heynckes, Enrique and Conte before being compared to the likes of Mou and Pep.

In terms of Achievements, he's nowhere near any of the the aforementioned managers.

A coach who has managed for 2 decades with less than 10 trophies, less than 5 major trophies.

Smh! Pep don suffer for una hand.

So funny. Comparing Pep's career path to that of Klopp.

Did Pep take over a team that had not won a league title in 25 years? Or which trophies is he supposed to win with Dortmund and a moribund Liverpool that he brought back to relevance

raumdeuter:
Wetin consign me. Let him enjoy his Thiago. Wetin we saw for 6 seasons with Thiago let him also face it

Lol wise man once said: Never ignore everything your woman's ex tells you about her, they are not all lies

He was warned. I trust EPL fans they have started dragging him on top potopoto. He's now known as the 'idea' midfielder

If say Thiago know shebi he for just stay Bayern jeje. I hope the ones that swore Thiago was Bayern's best midfielder throughout his stay at Bayern are enjoying him sha

People would do well to understand that this thing is an actual illness. Not just a mood swing or whim

raumdeuter:
Javi Martinez, Tolliso, Alaba, Boateng, Douglas Costa, Sarr. We will lose about 4 of them

Lmaoooo the Sarr we just bought?? That was a pretty weird signing anyway considering we gave him a 4 year deal

Costa might go this transfer window sef

popizaino:
Well,history has has it that you were always bitch to British teams ......remember1999 biggest final upset

Now Take and choke on another fluke


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrzQF1ZdTJg

Do you know if we add the CLs of United,Villa and Chelsea it's not up to Bayern's?

popizaino:
The only mediocre club is the club that can't win a mediocre club to lift the ucl trophy on his own tur

Lool CL count is 6-1. You might not want to go there

raumdeuter:
I wish him all the best in Madrid except when he is playing Bayern

Something tells me there will be quite a bit of offloading this summer. I hear Tolisso will also be for sale

In a way you kinda wish we sold Alaba before the season began. In this economy keeping Alaba for an extra season carrying his wages and then losing him for free just isn't ideal

Moving forward let's just hope injury allows us see what Nianzou and Hernandez can do as long term replacements

There's rumors Alaba has already agreed a deal with Madrid.

Strangely I'm indifferent. This current Alaba has stopped impressing for quite sometime

mattfeuter:
When I talked about how important Jarrett Allen is to the Nets, you tried to downplay it.

Now we can see and as we know, Defense win championships.

Deandre Jordan can only do so much lol, baba is 36

Teams will punish them on the Board when it comes to the playoffs.

Lool this is so funny. What was their record before the trade? You would think they were 10-0 and Jarrett Allen was absent in their previous losses

Na wa. See as you dey mention Jarrett Allen like say na Tim Duncan. Even Jarrett Allen if he was a GM he would trade himself for James Harden