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airmark:
So the useless Boathand returned yesterday and made Bayern to suffer another loss.

All these Bayern coaches would never get sense.

No Boathand, no problem.

Ode. It was Boateng from dressing room that dashed Gladbach a last minute penalty abi?

VaughnSangrey:
Yeah that ship has sailed a while ago.

I'm watching the Overeem fight right now ands that butt crack is disgusting but so far reem just dry humping rozenstruik. And BTW DC is a very good commentator.

The battle of the cardio kings next week, Colby vs Kamaru. Never seen a more evenly matched fight in my life, their styles are so similar and heck they literally have the same record. Who do you got? and not that i take anything colby says seriously but hes claiming Kamaru is on EPO and its gaining traction in the community.

DC is arguably the best commentator in recent times. He really is set for life when he retires

It was a decent fight shades of Lewis and Ngannou but with a bit more offense especially in the second round. This Rozenstruik chap has a very poor takedown defense. DC or Stipe would embarrass him

My biased side is leaning towards Kamaru but you can literally bet your house that it's going to go down to the judges. Just too close to call

VaughnSangrey:
I mean if a person was a gatekeeper all through his career i can understand him remaining in the game for as long as possible. But guys like reem and Tito need to take a page out of DC and GSPs playbook, if you cant stay at the top whats the point of ruining your legacy by staying in the game.

I saw the card and thought it wasnt worth the watch and apparently from what everyone is saying i missed a classic. Stefan Struve is the biggest waste of size in any sport ever and apparently his future kids are going to be retarded. LOL.

I think a guy like Reem wants to be UFC Champion really badly. He had his chance but blew it vs Stipe, very rarely does a challenger ever get multiple chances to win a belt. Now he's just facing younger, bigger and stronger fighters and racking up unnecessary losses.

That ref was a ret@rd he should have DQd Rothwell for those multiple groin shots. Struve was robbed and if he had milked that second kick maybe Rothwell gets the DQ. His bravery cost him.

If draws are your thing then you missed a classic. It was ok but the fans were terrible

afrodoc2:
Mos def. Tyson was a good boxer and one of the greats but he didn’t beat another great heavyweight in their prime. Once the quality heavyweights of the 90s came around he struggled.

Absolutely none. I mean a washed up Larry Holmes is the biggest body on his resume if we are going to keep it a buck

Emaprince:
Winning by points no dey impress me sha.

Which is why I loved Tyson

And we saw what happened to Tyson when he faced fighters without a glass jaw. He was found out

VaughnSangrey:
I guess that says more about his opponent than it does about the reem. He had a stellar career, champion at almost every promotion hes been with, i just don't know what people like him and BJ Penn are still looking for in the octagon, it certainly can't be worth the damage to their body.

Have you heard Tito speak recently? That mans brain isn't fine.

He's fought 64 times. It's insane.

Bigi got some buzz because he dropped Arlovski (who is a tomato can these days)

I was impressed by his G and P but he's now far too old and weak. Vintage Overeem would have locked the guillotine choke on him. He would be in the GOAT discussion if he wasn't cursed with a glass chin

Lol if Tito was my father I would go on hunger strike for him to stop fighting

Did you see how Ben Rothwell almost castrated Struve. Lool you can't watch that and not hold your blockus

Andy Ruiz was out punched and out jabbed by ratio 2:1 and ratio 3:1 so let's leave this running narrative for dustbin

I'm glad AJ was nor stupid enough to enter and trade with Ruiz. He's the one with something to lose and he did the needful to get back his belt.

I'm open to a rubber match as well but I give AJ a pass for losing that first fight anyway. For now teletubby can wait let AJ face one of Wilder or Fury.

VaughnSangrey:
Exactly my thoughts on overeem as well. Didn't even bother watching that one. I think its a little too late for Tito as far as CTE. The thing with these fighters is they have horrible financial planning and end up broke a year after they retire so they keep scrounging for paychecks. A few just miss the high and what not but most of them fight because they have to. Its really sad.

It was a decent fight if you could get past the sight of Bigi Boy's butt crack. Not a classic by any stretch but it's incredibly rare to see two heavies go the full nine.

I was impressed with Overeem till that last 4 seconds happened. He fought smart and controlled proceedings. The juiced up Overeem would have won this fight easily

As for Tito I guess he would be fine if he keeps on fighting bums like Alberto Del Rio. He reminds me of Ken Shamrock who Dana White famously said he would pay not to fight.

Look at our guy Samuel Peter who got KOd in the first round last night. Just sad

VaughnSangrey:
In other news Tito just won the WWE championship from Alberto Del Rio. Jon Jones should be worried.

Lmaoooo why the hell is Tito still fighting? Is CTE a joke to these guys?

I heard Samuel Peter is still fighting. WTF

Even Overeem should strongly consider retirement.

VaughnSangrey:
Delete.

Tempted to. Not trying to get banned

Jesus Christtttt

Overeem was cursed by the MMA gods with a glass chin. Or in this case lips as he is going to need a new pair after Bigi Boy tore this one in half

He was literally 4 seconds away from winning that fight.

Not impressed in Jairzinho though. Ngannou would drop him Round 1

VaughnSangrey:
I didn't say it was close. If he can't stand in the middle with Ruiz who will he stand in the middle with?

Like I said, he boxed well and got his belt back. But the question here is how that fighting style will help him against the big 2?

Lool you're grossly underestimating Ruiz. No smart fighter would stand in the middle with you. Fury would never do that.

I wanted to see how AJ would respond to Ruiz's hooks and I was impressed. I'm convinced while his chin is still suspect he's no Frank Bruno and that gives him a chance

I don't know how he fares against Fury since Fury is more evasive than anyone AJ ever faced but you see for Wilder. I know he's never faced anyone with above average skills and elite KO power. I have zero fear for Wilder after that Ortiz fight, a younger boxer would have KO'd Wilder

VaughnSangrey:
Dude, even AJ will admit he ran in that fight. Even when Ruiz wanted him to meet him in the middle you can see your man didn't want any part of that. Like I said, kudos to him, he did what he had to and he has his belts back buy let's call a spade a spade. Mayweather would be proud, take that how you want.

That was not a close fight my gee. You want AJ to stand and trade with a desperate fighter like he foolishly did the last time.

He really boxed today and his inability to KO Andy was more of a testament to Ruiz's granite chin. If AJ boxed like this in the first fight he would not have lost his belts

He out jabbed Ruiz, out punched him by a country mile and that's that for that.

VaughnSangrey:
But Whyte admitted to ducking Ortiz for whatever BS reason. Heavyweights don't have to fight him to boost their CV because the division is thin, they just have to keep winning and eventually they will get that fight. Ortiz being avoided was one of the worst kept secrets in boxing. I remember people saying it will be wilders first real test, claiming he was going to be exposed. And then he beat him and Ortiz immediately became an old man.

I didn't claim Whyte didn't duck Ortiz I'm saying it is not possible for every mid-tier boxer including those with nothing to lose to duck Ortiz. Beating Ortiz would have boosted their CVs and put them in the title conversation as well.

Of course Ortiz being Wilder's first test speaks to the tomato cans he fought. How can your 40th fight be your first real fight and we won't question who you have been fighting all along? Ortiz is 6 years older than Wilder, of course he's old.

VaughnSangrey:
Wilder went to the Olympics after less two years of training, even his olympic teammates were laughing at him and he ended up with a bronze medal, the only American to get on the podium for boxing at that Olympics if I remember correctly. Of course his handlers had to keep him busy, he fought multiple times a year to build experience since he turned pro after that. This is a guy that was originally supposed to be a basketball player and got into boxing to take care of his special needs daughter. Point is he needed the experience and had to work his way up so he fought as many bums as possible.

I know Wilder's story. I'm a fan myself but you're propagating that he's some unstoppable force. He's not and fighting some of the dregs of the division for 85% of his career has no doubt helped him.

VaughnSangrey:
Fury went down twice, in the 9th and then in the 12th. Point is as good as he is he still went down.

Please don't compare flex mentallo to Tyson. Their styles are not similar at all. Tyson style was suited to the sort of power he carried. He was a swarmer who fought on the inside and got in your face and tried to soften you like a pressure cooker. Plus the way he bobbed and weaved, his movement, a well rounded fighter. So of course he landed flurries and was able to avoid getting hit while doing it. AJ tries fighting like that he dies.

I'm not saying AJ is like Tyson in terms of overall boxing style please don't get it confused. I'm saying AJ like Tyson relies on multiple combinations and has one of the best uppercuts I've ever seen. AJ is not a swarmer or pressure fighter like Tyson but if he wobbled Wilder he has the combination and hand speed to drop a guy like Tyson used to

AJ threw almost 50 more punches

Threw three times the jabs Ruiz threw but he ran. If he didn't run nko?

Anyway I hope they sort this out in 2020 once and for all. This would never have been possible in the good old days. We would have seen these guys fight and these forum debates would be unnecessary

KNIGHTBlaed:
Fury and AJ is unpredictable, because both can duck each other all day
But Wilder will be dealt with properly this time by Fury. Just get ready for it

My main issue with Fury is his lack of power. That lack of ability to put Wilder away is what makes me worried. Ersan is not wrong in the sense that Wilder only has to be perfect for 2 seconds. However the real antidote for a guy like Wilder is a hard hitter like him.

Go and check that fight with Fury and see how he came back from the 12th round knockdown. If Fury had KO power he knocks Wilder down or out and that might just have won him the fight

KNIGHTBlaed:
True this. I'd like to see Ruiz Wilder.. Ruiz can take him out, but fortunately for him, Wilder will not underestimate him and come prepared. I wish Ruiz had fought Wilder..

Today's fight if not anything else just showed how badly unprepared AJ was for the first fight. It's almost like he didn't train at all

VaughnSangrey:
Whyte literally ducked an eliminator against Ortiz. Parker was a champ. How will guys like povetkin get their pay days if Ortiz derails their train? Like I said, high risk, low reward.

We could argue about who ducked who all day. I struggle to believe that Ortiz could not nail a top 10 Heavyweight all his career. And remember beating Ortiz also boosts their CV

Christian Hammer is the only half decent guy he's faced bar Wilder. The rest are tomato cans

VaughnSangrey:
All the heavyweights have a resume filled with bums because the division is trash. Until they get that shot against a respectable opponent that is. Ortiz never got that and unfortunately for him when he did he got it against the heaviest hitting heavyweight of all time.

Good you pointed that out. Wilder in his 29th fight was fighting a 42 year old Fraudley Harrison. Regardless neither of them fought enough competent guys that could expose them

Ortiz had his chance. He ducked Wilder and so we would never know. When opportunity comes you don't tell opportunity you're not ready so Ortiz's excuse is ducking

VaughnSangrey:
Fury did a very good job of not getting hit until he did and that's why he lasted that long. That's the scary thing about wilder, like you said everyone gets hit, wilder doesn't just hit he levels people. AJ has power but it's not a one punch KO type power, it's more of a he hits hard until it accumulates type power. He won't last long enough. In the heavyweight division everyone carries power and yes he has a punchers chance but it's extremely slim.

Fury got hit in the 4th and came back. Ortiz controlled the fight up till the 7th round.

Mike Tyson was not a one punch guy either. You do realize combo hits are actually likelier to lead to a referee stoppage and harder to recover from.

Wilder can be touched and last fight showed that more than ever. Best believe AJ has a very strong chance against Wilder.

Roland17:
Porz needs to stop putting up these poverty numbers and start showing up!!! I don’t want to hear he is just returning from injury, these numbers are a disgrace for a player commanding his salary! You will definitely need a fresh and healthy Doncic come post season but o fear he may run out before the post season..

Porzingis has been really disappointing lately. I hope he is just rounding into form and not a long term problem.

My grievance with him is he seems more content with shooting step back 3's than banging in the post. It's always bizarre and borderline heartbreaking to see 7footers launching 3's instead of utilizing their size advantage inside

VaughnSangrey:
Dude, I can channel all the anger I want, doesn't mean I can beat bud Crawford or Errol Spence. Doesn't mean I can beat kyrie Irving one on one. The mental aspect can only get you so far, if you don't have the skills to back it up it doesn't count for sh-t.

Lool AJ is not a civilian. Stop this comparison. Bar Wilder nobody in the division hits harder than AJ

VaughnSangrey:
Ortiz doesn't have a big name because all the big names avoided him until wilder. Why wouldnt they? A Cuban South paw with a great amature background and experience who's been knocking people out? High risk low reward.

Ortiz turned down AJ cause he was promised Wilder and possibly because he didn't have enough time to cycle off. You know the old man needs his juice. Otherwise people like Ortiz don't have the luxury to duck based on fear especially when there's a paycheck involved.

The fact that you admit AJ will get hit should let you know how this will pan out. He hits hard but he's not one punch man and before he can accumulate that damage wilder will knock him spark out.The only man equipped to beat wilder is fury who is a heavyweight that somehow moves like a bantamweight, again even he was sent to the netherrealm.

You mean midlevel guys were ducking Ortiz too? The Joseph Parkers? Povetkins and Whyte?

The bulk of Ortiz's résumé consists of tomato cans and that's the truth

Whatever reason Ortiz had for ducking AJ is moot. He did, so that really is that about that and we can never really say how a fight with him and AJ would go.

Lol is it possible for a boxer to not get hit in the course of a fight? All I'm saying is AJ is not Frank Bruno and really the one guy I believe can KO Wilder is AJ. He has sufficient technique and most importantly power. If he staggers Wilder I know for certain he has the power to go for the kill unlike Fury or Ortiz who couldn't

VaughnSangrey:
LMAO. Again an old Ortiz is better than most heavyweights. Ortiz looked in better shape in the second fight than the first. Ortiz will make light work of anyone AJ has ever fought.

I'm not saying Ortiz wins against AJ, I'm just saying outboxing someone doesn't mean beating him. And Ortiz will outbox most. Him or anyone else for that matter outboxing wilder shouldn't come as a surprise.

Who are the lesser fighters that wobbled wilder bar Ortiz who buzzed him? Mind you, AJ has been dropped numerous times before. To say he's never fought someone with close to wilders power is an understatement.

Ortiz is a solid fighter. No one is questioning that. However suggesting Ortiz would make light work of anyone AJ has ever fought is a wild and unverifiable claim. There is absolutely 0 evidence to back this up

It's not just outboxing but the fact that Wilder lost all 6 rounds and was significantly worse than the first fight. I like Wilder but all I'm seeing so far is he has not fought the guys packing enough heat to drop him. Fury for his size punches like a fairy, Ortiz is too old.

I'm not seeing the guys with the right combination to challenge Wilder but of all the 3 AJ is the only one with the right mix to do so.

Eric freaking Molina had Wilder on wobbly knees. AJ has more bodies on his résumé than Wilder and Fury combined. We saw how Fury got bloodied by a Swedish Uber driver the other day. These guys have not fought the caliber of fighters AJ has

The Mavericks squad has been the surprise of the season.

Had them as a 7th seed at best when the season began but for their losses to the worst team in the league, the abominable New York Knicks they would be 2nd seed at the moment. It's surprising to see the role players perform and take the load off Doncic

VaughnSangrey:
Dude, that Ortiz fight showed the most terrifying side of wilder. He doesnt go into fights to win rounds he goes in there to take people out. Ortiz is a much better boxer than AJ, more fundamentally and technically sound and he couldnt avoid that right hand. Even Fury couldnt avoid that right hand. AJ goes down in the early rounds. Not even playing. Wilder is the most horrible match up for him.

No. He got away with it because Ortiz's ass was too old. You really think Wilder would have escaped with that strategy whatever it was with a younger fighter?

It's not even about avoiding but more about utilizing your dominance at any point of the fight. I'm encouraged by what I saw from AJ today so whether Ortiz is technically and fundamentally better is moot. He doesn't possess the power to press home his advantage. Plus he's really not fought anybody if we are keeping it a buck bat Wilder

I would rather AJ faces Wilder than Fury. I've seen lesser fighters wobble Wilder too many times. None of them possesses AJ's power

That jab Ruiz ate in Round 11 would have sent Ortiz to the nether realm. If AJ had aimed that at Ruiz's temple it would have been good night.

I hope Ruiz fights the loser of the Fury and Wilder rematch

VaughnSangrey:
40 year old ortiz is still the 2nd best boxer in the division, plus hes a cuban south paw. 40 year old Ortiz will still outbox AJ for most rounds. Dude, no ones chin is good enough to survive wilder, no one has ever stepped into a ring with him without getting dropped. The fact is AJ will get hit and when he does its night night.

False. Who does Ortiz have on his resume. The highlight of his career is two losses to Wilder. Finish!

Ortiz will never win all 6 rounds against AJ and Ortiz's chin is nothing like Andy Ruiz. AJ would definitely drop Ortiz that's why Ortiz ducked when they gave him an offer for the belt. Ruiz was never part of the plan ab initio. Ortiz is a good fighter but don't hype him more than what he is.

Of course AJ will get hit but what I'm saying is AJ hits harder than anybody Wilder has ever fought. He has a strong chance and for me is the Heavyweight best equipped to beat Wilder outrightly

VaughnSangrey:
What? Ortiz hit Wilder with bombs just as heavy if not heavier and not once was he fazed. I wonder what exactly you saw today that makes you think he can survive wilder. He cant use this strategy with wilder and even with this strategy like you said he got caught, you think AJ will survive bombs from wilder? hes easily the most chinny amongst the top heavyweights.

Hell nawww. You're not telling me Ortiz hits as hard as AJ. We're not having that argument bruh

He got taken to school for 6 rounds by a 40 year old but you think AJ can't survive him. Surely you must be joking.

AJ's chin is good enough to keep him in the fight. He's no Frank Bruno

VaughnSangrey:
People are saying different plans for different fights.

Here are the facts, AJ is 6'6, Wilder is 6'7, Fury is 6'9. Fighting at a distance is out of the question.

Is he good enough of a boxer to outbox fury or avoid Wilder for 12 rounds? Nope

Is he good enough or does he possess enough power to catch or drop Fury in 12 rounds? Nope

Can he try to take out Wilder without being exposed to mjolnir? Nope

Theres just nothing within his arsenal that suggests he can hang with the big boys.

That being said, kudos to him, he had an effective game plan and he stuck to it. Got his belts back. But like i said, him and Eddie should continue blaming politics and avoid that wilder fight at all costs.

Wilder is a better match up for him than Fury. I don't like his chances with Fury so much because Fury can duck him all 12 rounds but if it's that Wilder I saw vs Ortiz. Forget AJ has a very strong chance

VaughnSangrey:
Flex on his way to a dominant UD win. But by God, his handlers should keep his as far away from Wilder as possible. He makes enough money on his own. Wilder will beat the brakes off of him.

After the Ortiz fight I'm not so sure. AJ thoroughly outboxed Ruiz today. Ruiz only tried to turn it to a scrap afterwards which AJ was smart to avoid.

Wilder can't eat those hits Ruiz ate today I'm deathly sure of that

nihilistjnr:
Ruiz begging for 3rd fight.

Nah nigga, it's time to fade back into irrelevance

I'd like to see Ruiz in the picture at some point. Maybe fight the loser of the Wilder vs Fury rematch. His chin will keep him in the fight against either of them.

He's much better than that fraud Dilian Whyte

Spare a thought for our guy Samuel Peter. Imagine my shock learning he had a fight today

afrodoc2:
One of them will catch AJ. He is talking too much and abandoning his game plan. Ruiz took that 8th round.

6-2 or 7-1

What do they feed these Mexicans their chins are mental!!