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Godx:
It's very reasonable to compare them. La Liga is still deemed uncompetitive and an easy league despite most of their teams dominating Europe in recent times. La liga team performance in Europe have not stopped epl fan boys from ridiculing the league. So epl team performance in Europe this past 2 seasons has not reflect the actual quality of the league.

Suggesting La Liga as an uncompetitive and easy league would be fairly accurate considering the resource gap between the haves and have nots.
This is not applicable to EPL

Do you agree EPL was also weak the season Pep won by 19 points or your bias is only applicable to Klopp and Liverpool?

Performance in Europe reflects quality in and of the League. There is a reason we have coefficients mate

lordfalcao:
I said the weakness of the other teams made the tittle race bit easy. Last season we saw two clubs who know what they were doing slug it out. We all so how the race was. That’s how a league should be

That is not how it works. Nobody was parroting this opinion when Pep won the league at a canter. The onus is on Liverpool to win as many games as they can. If the other teams don't keep up despite equal resources then Liverpool's achievements should not be diminished on the back of that.

When Pep's Barca was dominating Europe nobody said Europe was weak. When Wenger went unbeaten nobody said EPL was weak

raumdeuter:
Has City kept that standard of 18 wins in a row this year?

Good. They couldn't keep up. Liverpool showed it was no fluke and went one step better. Why are they being discredited for it instead of praised?

Godx:
Using point tally to say a team in 2019 would have won the title in 2002 is Soo gringy. That's not how it works.

What are you chatting about. Show me any other year aside 2018 and 2019 that Liverpool with their points tally don't win the league?

I'm showing you how high the bar was set you are speaking grammar

lordfalcao:
no the difference is that man city don’t know what they are doing this season

Iyen o kan aye. Liverpool didn't know what they were doing last season too else they would have won back to back

raumdeuter:
But Barcelona Milan and Madrid even at the peak of their powers never went 25-1-0 in any season in the past 30yrs despite them being the 3 most dominant teams of the last 3 decades

Its the league that has the fabled financial parity that is having a 25-1-0 run

They failed to reach that feat for reasons we will never know. However what I know is if Liverpool win the CL this year again then nobody can tell me they don't belong to that conversation of the all-time greats. Because at that point you will have to explain your criteria and why Liverpool don't belong there

It's not fabled. Which league can a club play £40m for goddamn Joelinton and £60m for Ndombele. This is not La Liga where Barcelona can pluck Leganes best player for €20m midway into the season. Man City cannot do that even for Teemu Pukki. They will still pay almost £50m

lordfalcao:
if other teams are in good form Liverpool will surely have seen a loose from at least one top team club.

The other top club who would have made the league strong are not doing so. Its not that they didn’t strengthen, they don’t know what they are doing at the moment

How many did they lose last season??

The other top clubs would not have been able to keep up. Show me a year any team won 25 and drew just 1 match.

Last season it took City winning 18 games in a row to finish ahead of Liverpool by 1 point. The difference is Liverpool didn't choke this year

Godx:
Performance in Europe does not reflect your league ability.

No it rubbishes the argument that the EPL could be called a farmer's league and it's erroneous to compare their circumstances to that of say a PSG. The degree of difficulty is not comparable

Godx:
Why do you keep referencing 64matches? Last season is done and dusted their point tally for last season didn't win them the title so it's seems you are using it to clutch at straws in a bid to hype them.

I'm showing you that their dominance did not start this year. They have been building towards this and nothing would have stopped them. So it is a very lazy argument on your part to not look at this team holistically and understand that what we are seeing now was inevitable once this team hit its peak.

lordfalcao:
this things can happen in a season and the next season something worst will happen

Ehn let's wait till then. Why are we proactively belittling and trivializing their achievements thus far

Godx:
Na Liverpool point tally does not reflect their quality rather it reflects how weak the league has been. Liverpool will not be leading the other leagues with 20+ point difference.

I would agree that the league was weak if all their representatives in Europe weren't still in their respective competitions

raumdeuter:
Shouldn't that be a reason for Barca and Madrid to be going unbeaten since their rivals don't have money?

If they play to their potentials and recruit wisely then conventional wisdom dictates that they should. I mean we have to go back to 2013 for the last time a team not named Barca or Madrid won the league

lordfalcao:
people are not discrediting Liverpool, they are keeping the momentum going for them even if it means carving out a 1-0 win for themselves.

But if you say that the current weakness of other top clubs did not help their title race easy Then is a lie. Compare the amount of matches this top clubs lost at this time vs last season. And tell me if they weakened or not..

Epl and ucl form are not the same , we will know how well this epl top clubs are doing at the knockout stage

What do you mean they are not discrediting Liverpool? They have and are still doing so

I'm saying whatever strength the top clubs might have no other team would have been able to cope with this form Liverpool is on. I want you to show me any other time in League history a team has lost 1 match in 64 attempts

If the league was not weak when Pep got 100 pts then it is not weak now that English teams are getting to the Finals of major European competitions.

Liverpool will top any league in Europe as we speak

IamD18:
It's very annoying Bruv. Not just Liverpool.

It's common with EPl supporters when a team different from theirs is topping the league.

They've done it to Chelsea, ManCity and ManU

Same even happened in 2016 when Leicester won the league, they came up with such statement that Chelsea, Arsenal, ManCity and ManU were struggling, reason Leicester won the league.

Always looking for a way to discredit any team doing well.

They should give Klopp credit where it's due. This team has conceded just 15 goals in 26 matches.

Been to back to back Finals. In a league that produced all England Finals in CL and Europa, This year again all 7 reps qualified for the knockout stage.

All teams can compete financially and yet one team that has hit its peak and is realizing it's potential is being discredited. It's a bit alarming

raumdeuter:
You can say this about the La Liga as well but none of Madrid or Barca are running away with their leagues

La Liga teams are not buying Nicholas Pepe for £72m. Neither are they spending £62m for Ndombele.

The financial playing field is not comparable

raumdeuter:
25-1-0 No team in recent European history have ever reached it, Not Peps Barca, Not Madrid Galacticos, Not Juups Bayern, Not Capello or Sacchis Milan

Are you saying this Liverpool is the best side Europe has ever seen?

If they win the CL this year they will be up there and in the conversation.

They might not be appealing to purists but the dominance should be respected. There are many ways to skin a cat

raumdeuter:
The year we won the treble we also lost in the league. Barca lost in the league, Madrid Galaticos lost

Good. So how does this diminish what Liverpool is doing??

2017/2018 - CL Finalist (Lost because of a calamitous goaliemepon)

2018/2019 - CL winner, Finished with 3rd highest point total in league history. They would have won the league every other year but 2018 and 2019

2019/2020 - 25 wins from 26 games. Leading the league with record margin

I am seeing progression from one team regardless of external circumstances.

lordfalcao:
doesn’t change that they are benefiting from the weakness of their big teams...

Chelsea is struggling
Man U is struggling
Man city is struggling
Tottenham is struggling
Arsenal is struggling

The only thing who gave them problems last year is struggling this year

The only argument will be the gap is not as wide.

Besides these so-called teams are still doing well in Europe. I don't get why people are going out of their way to discredit Liverpool

They are 25-1-0. Even if the other teams were not struggling how do they match that number? A number Pep's City, Mourinho's Chelsea and Fergie never reached

raumdeuter:
The Napoli that beat them is currently midtable in Serie A They might be the best team in Europe but I am not sure they would be 64 games with 1 loss in any other league

Zidane three peat team, Peps Barca nor Juups Bayern ever did this

They were not mid table when they beat Liverpool.

The year we won treble didn't we lose to Arsenal and BATE Borisov?

The CL is a jungle and anybody can beat anybody

Godx:
They are getting results because of how weak the rest teams are not because of how good they are. Liverpool point tally does not reflect their actually quality as a team. A good team taking advantage of a weak league to stamp their dominance. Their European record shows exactly that. How many games have they lost in Europe? Like melvyn11 said if it was to be any other league their achievement will be downplayed and ridiculed by the epl fans.

All 4 EPL teams came out of their groups in the CL, All 3 EPL Europa League teams also got out of their groups.

7 of the remaining 48 teams in Europe are English. So I disagree with una argument in Large Fonts

If the other leagues had their teams thriving in Europe as well then no one of sound mind will ridicule their achievements.

Liverpool's point tally reflects their quality. They would lead any other league in Europe as we speak

raumdeuter:
In that same time, since January 2019 in europe they have lost twice to Barca and Napoli playing 13 games

So don't you think the 1 loss in 64 games is due to weaker opponents?

Of course. They are facing the creme de la crème of Europe. It's expected that they lose some games.

However need I remind you we had an all English Final in both European competitions last season, and all 4 English teams made it out the group phase

Liverpool are the best team in Europe as we speak. That is just the truth. Let's give credit where it's due

Swissh:
Yes o. If Bayern don't knock this Chelsea team out your thread won't be safe.

I will be very disappointed if we don't beat them by 5 goal margin on aggregate

Godx:
Same thing. If Psg did exactly what Liverpool are doing at the moment they will be ridiculed and the league be called a farmers league. Everyone knows the league is at the weakest it has ever been in while this season. Watch Liverpool play and you will see nothing special/spectacular in their brand of football that warrants them having 20+ point gap.

If PSG had teams like Newcastle in their league that can cough out £40m on a striker or Arsenal and Tottenham that can squander £60-70m on a player then I'm sure the league would not be regarded as a farmer's league

Focusing on the gap is erroneous. What you should be focusing on is that they are 25-1-0. We are seeing form that has never been replicated in league history.

A team that has been to back to back CL Finals and has lost 1 game in 64 attempts is surely doing something right.

Like Diddy said. Don't worry if I write rhymes, I write checks.

So don't worry about their brand of football. They are getting results and dominating with it

Greatihex:
guy, where is your alligence?

If you want to go the way of A40, nobody is going to hold you back

Why can't you leave my name out of your leprous fingers? Why??

donjazet:
My friend, stop yarning what you don't know or understand. Clearly, you didn't follow this issue from its onset.

While many were drunk in ecstasy while we were winning the small teams, I committed a crime of going against the herd mentality rampant here, I called for caution in our optimism, I had to remind them of the current weaknesses in the club, some even thought we were in a title race.
I also pointed Chelsea's famed history of going on good winning runs like this before a huge slump, but all my logical dispositions were foolishly seen by airmark and his cohorts as me being negative.

Time and over again, airmark has proven to be foolhardy. He's foolishly impetuous a lot of times and rarely analyses football intelligently except on the odd occasion hence why he is constantly the object of ridicule and it is mind boggling how this individual maintains a following despite his erratic thought processes.

It's Don Jazzy again

Swissh:
We have to create a committee to handle the Parte arrangement for this thread.

Chelsea's Next fixtures.

Feb 22 - Chelsea vs Tottenham


Feb 25 - Chelsea vs Bayern Munich


March 3 - Chelsea vs Liverpool


March 7 - Chelsea vs Everton


March 18 - Bayern vs Chelsea


March 21 - Chelsea vs Man City


Cc Thorvikk55, hensben, DExponential,Mapoka, Amoto94.

Are you relaxed about those fixtures?

Haaaaaaa. Iku re

Godx:
The league is basically at the weakest it has been in ages. If PSG did the same thing In France nobody will care because of the league same with what Liverpool is doing at the moment. They are just a good side taking advantage of the weakness of the league.

Was it weak as well when they lost only one game last year? All I'm seeing is a team that is converting it's draws to wins and now have that Champions mentality.

Godx:
Cc A40. This is why I told you Liverpool are benefitting from the weakest epl league season in a long time. Chelsea have lost 7 matches since the back end of November yet they have never dropped from the top 4 during that time Frame. Chelsea have no business being in the top 4.

Lol how are they benefitting? They lead the league by almost 30 points.

Even if the league was supposedly stronger how does that diminish their advantage? At worst the race will be tighter. Don't water down the efforts of a team that has lost just once in their past 64 games in the league

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVte8a_2q80

nihilistjnr:
We were fücked hard today by terrible officiating

Hahahaha shey na Lexington Steele or Charlie Mac pipe una

To make it in life you have to be Inspired to Perspire and Aspire to Maguire

Where Ibime? Abeg I need that his mad gif of that ninja dressed like a love-vendor walking into what looks like a barber shop