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thorrvik55:
A40, u believe the reason why England was unable to get past the quarter finals with that their generation of players was because the players were overhyped and not good enough.

Let me ask u this, PSG have had some world class and very good players in recent years but have failed to get past the champions league quarter finals(the last time they got to the semis was over 20 years ago), do u think the different coaches they've hired failed to reach the semis because of over hyped players?


I would really appreciate a straight forward answer and not amala turning.

Who are the players you're talking about? You mean the same PSG that was parading washed up Thiago Silva and David Luiz in heart of defense? or freaking Marquinhos? Can you compare him with supposed great generational defenders like Ferdinand and John Racist?

Is it midfield where they were parading Blaise Matuidi and Thiago Motta? Clearly o ti gba penalty lo throw in

Khanben:
My opinion is that every human on earth is unique. As long as he is not committing a crime he can do whatever he likes. I am personally tired of the medicine pushing a narrative that a human should conform to a standard, The fact is he does not have to behave the way we think he should.
There are billionaires who lavish their wealth, they are those who are philanthropic with it and their are others who live conservative life styles it's all on the person.
One angle most people are not looking at is the possibility of the individual who KD is chatting with getting positive feelings from KD replying them.
Finally in the eternal words of J K Rowling 'to each man his own'.

It's not about not doing as you like and what not but understanding that from an elevated position you have to be selective and pick your battles. Especially when they are battles that are clearly taking a toll on your psyche. Making peace with the fact that you cannot control how you're perceived by people.

He should at least be able to filter constructive feedback from outright negative ones.

If you're walking down the road and 50 dogs bark at you. Do you stand and start barking back at them or continue your jolly way

Kimbeast:
They under achieved because of Bad Management.

Or the coaches failed due to over hyped players. Because you cannot show me any assortment of World class players that failed to reach semis of a major tournament over an 8 year and 5 tournament span

Kimbeast:
Here is why it's the coaches....

Lets take a contrast of italy and England and how cohesive the Italian midfield was in 2006, the way it was entirely built around getting the best out of Pirlo, Sven was trying to crowbar in the likes of Lampard, Gerrard and Beckham which was stupid.. Once Lippi got Pirlo and Totti, it was all about filling in the missing pieces for him to build the best collective. It was just so much balanced something a capable manager will do for England. Pirlo was the best deep-lying playmaker in the world, with the club and country foil of Gattuso who compensated perfectly for any weaknesses. Perrotta wasn't as impressive an individual as some of the English stars, but he played an important tactical role, tucking in to support the midfield and enabling Grosso to overlap down the flank. Ashley Cole was a far more defensively polished left-back than Grosso ever was, but Lippi didn't need another immaculate defender - he needed an attacking left back to go forward and make the difference as he did against both Australia and Germany. Even Toni up top wasn't as talented as either Rooney or Owen, but he was a fine spearhead for the team to hold it up for Totti and was coming off the season of his life with 31 goals in Serie A. It was such a complementary team were so many strengths were maximised brilliantly by Lippi. You can look at every player in the team and see the key tactical function they had. If England had a capable manager like Lippi who maximized his squad strength they would have Won Something.

No need for all this long yarnin. I gave you a murderer's row of coaches with questionable technical skills that were able to succeed once they got capable players.

You can't sit there and tell me Capello, Eriksson and other experienced coaches who have forgotten more about football than any of us will be unable to conjure a formation that will get England at least to semifinal stage. I don't care if Christian Chukwu is their coach, the players are accountable

It's better for you to claim that they underachieved or blame ill fortune for their failure than to suggest that proven coaches who have won almost every trophy available suddenly forgot everything they know while surrounded by supposed world class players.

If the English players were that talented it would be harder to fail than to succeed

eph12:
Neymar don do am again, meanwhile hidden came into the match at 60 minute and RM almost drew a game they were winning comfortably just before he entered.

Flop of the season?

Only Chelsea fans compare that Shakushaku kingpin to Starboy. If Neymar knuckles down and faces his craft who born Hazard to dey drag levels with am.

Lucas Hernandez just dashed this Red Bull awoof penalty. Owo ti wo Igbo

Obere4u:
Please what happened to the point of a benched player in FPL?

O ti lazzdent niyen. Unless you're using Bench Boost or their replacement in the starting XI didn't play

airmark:
You were supposed to know that the change in formation helped everybody in that defence, not only Rudiger's introduction.

They only quaked as usual in the second half and conceded goals, which were due to avoidable errors.

LegoxMetahuman:
rudiger has been very solid so far

hensben:
As I saw Zouma replacing Rudiger I already know we will concede.

Unlimited22:
I think it's very clear we need Rudiger and Kante urgently. I only hope Rudiger was taken off as a precaution.


Meanwhile Lampard does need to work on his defensive tactics. This defense is a mess.

Maybe all these people didn't know Lampard was playing a different formation abi what is your point? Why are you needlessly antagonizing what everyone with working eyes are actually seeing

airmark:


A40 watches his football via livescores and he only checks results not even formations.

What is now the use of you that supposedly watched the match and didn't see the impact of Rudiger before and after he left the pitch

You and shigidi wetin be the difference?

Greatihex:
where did the defensive solidity go last season when we were collecting it last season?

The defensive solidity that helped you finish 3rd and win the Europa league

Greatihex:
your brain will not tell you now that it is 3 at the back

Shut up your mouth. Everybody commenting on the newfound defensive solidity didn't know there were 3 at the back abi?

fredoooooo:
Me just dey observe ni .. Everybody with their own opinion about football ..

Lima in that team back then run for 3 players, one of the main reason Francesco can concentrate on his skills. I saw it with my own eyes not on TV ..
Cafu turn the right full back to an express road , no go slow.. No matter who play against him back then .
Even Nedved as fit as he was , cafu run him down .

Nothing Sansa no go see for Winterfell.

Prime Cafu oh that year wey Cafu still be Cafu. That Roma squad had no business not getting to CL semi at least

fredoooooo:
Roma under Capello were solid, Even Francesco knows without the likes of Emerson , Lima and co he's a nobody.

This the same Roma squad with Bep Guardiola, Dacourt, Batistuta etc ...
Roma was good back then o

Where were you that day we were arguing here oh when they told us Totti dragged average Roma to Scudetto title. Team with Cafu and Walter Samuel for back, Batigoal for attack

When we told them Rudiger was the glue holding their defense they were doing egun ori. Naming Zouma, Christensen and other clowns

fredoooooo:
Super Marco delvechio, Cafu, Aldair , Emerson, Vincent candela etc with the bat antonioli in goal for Roma ..

Roma Derby is special, the atmosphere is always crazy, even if it's the youth 0eams.

This is the Roma squad some were downgrading a few weeks back on this thread just to hype Totti. Fear sef catch me

larride:
Hazard don start him shaku shaku for Madrid.

larride:
Are you seeing Hazard shaku shaku in HD?

Someone they will still use pankere to chase from Madrid. He thinks it's Chelsea that has time for iranu where he is a big fish in small pond. They don't have time for Shakushaku dancing over there

I want to see if he will near box 18 for any awoof penalty and how many slaps Sergio Ramos go sound am

airmark:
So you couldn't name any football legend without this polling booth award, except your Schweinspider?

Neither can you do similar for Lampard

1-1 draw. So end of story

airmark:
He didn't do anything extraordinary for club and country, hence he wasn't seen among the best 22 players in the world in any year.

Name one great player not named in world best 22 players in any year ? Even that calamitous Ghanaian, Boathand made it once.

When you have finished. You will show me the tournament Lampard delivered for country and helped them get past even quarterfinal stage.

Name one great player that featured for an established footballing power that failed to get past quarterfinal stage in 5 attempts

Clean sheets have disappeared from Liverpool's back line like the fart of a leprous witch since Allison's injury. You hate to see it

airmark:
More reason your Schweiny should be ashamed of himself.

Name one great footballer, who was consistent, without this polling booth award?

You kept on mentioning led assists in world cup, as if he had more than everybody. You got exposed in that.

So since Hazard also led assists in the world cup, why did you say he didn't do anything and was carried by KDB? You and your mentor wouldn't stop putting yourself in trouble with your views.Take your L.

Ashamed that he won a CL, a treble and every important trophy in club football, ashamed that he won a World Cup. Lol you're a jester

Nobody assisted more than him so you cannot say I was exposed. Google assist leaders at the 2010 World Cup you will see Schweinsteiger's name gadagba

What is my business with Hazard? Where is his CL and World Cup title? I don't have time for that Shakushaku exponent that was padding stats against Tunisia and Panama. When they faced the likes of France and Brazil garri found its level as usual

You should take the L for yourself and Lampard. His name starts with an L for a reason

hensben:
Why hasn’t Messi lifted Argentina national team to trophy? Was it Cr7 that scored the goal against France which gave Portugal national team European trophy? Stop been silly and type like an adult. So lampard didn’t win ucl. M u g u.

Nwanne comot from my circumference with your stupidity.

Messi has made 3 Finals
Ororo took tiny Portugal to two Euro Finals and a World Cup semifinal. Tell us why your Lampard has never helped England even to semifinal stage. You cannot even point to one tournament and say Lampard did his best but was let down by his teammates.

All of Lampard's contemporaries have won a CL. Nothing big in winning CL that's a yearly competition after playing almost 15 years at a top tier club. International glory is what defines the greats and every two years you have the opportunity to make a difference but England actually missed an entire tournament in Lampard's prime. A crying disgrace

nihilistjnr:
It's not about whether Bayern players live for award.

The question is, them dey forbid to vote Bayern players as 2nd best player in the world?

The more important question is why does Lampard's greatness disappear like the fart of a leprous witch whenever he wears England colors?

Pirlo, Xavi have never made 2nd best player in the World. If you add their goals combined e no reach Lampard own but they turn up for club and country just like Schweinsteiger but your Lampard is a well known James St Patrick

hensben:
Stop disgracing yourself. To reach semi finals is team effort, football is a team sport.

Shut up Mr Hensbrain.

Great players elevate their team to win trophies. The likes of Jordan, Maradona, Pele and Ronaldo and Messi are praised because their greatness lifted their teams to Championships. So don't tell me that a Lampard surrounded by other 'World class' players could not win a title and then tell me dumb shit like football is a team sport as if Lampard's team was not good enough to succeed. M0ron

airmark:
Paltry 3 assists he shared with 4 other players. Led ko, pencil ni.

He was so average that FIFA didn't consider him, among the best 11 in the world in any year. He didn't even make FIFA best XI 2nd team in any year.

He should be compared with Mikel, Essien, Carrick, Carzola, Seydou Keita, if we want to pity him.

Who assisted more than him. He had 3 paltry assists but Lampard could not manage one.

Stop showing us polling booth awards Iniesta and Dani Alves were making on their wheelchair. Show us why Lampard could not lead England past quarterfinal stage in 5 major tournaments. How hard can that be?

Save your pity and show me the World Cup title all 7 of them combined were able to win

nihilistjnr:
Them dey forbid to guage any Bayern player on league performance to enter WPOT theY 2nd place?

You mean captaining Chelsea to back to back European wins was also an EPL achievement?

Wawu

Bayern players don't live for polling booth awards. Even though we have had 5 players in the WPOTY top 10 in recent past. The bottom line is Lampard didn't win. Just like he has 0 titles or even semifinal appearances for country at any major tournament unlike his mates.

Show me what Lampard did for England bruhhh. Nobody ranks Europa League win when we're discussing elite player achievements

nihilistjnr:
So WPOTY and Balon Dor 2nd place award were also awarded by EPL?

You know I don't do polling booth awards that were probably gauged on performance at league level as well.

Show me Lampard dominating any International tournament and helping England get past quarterfinal stage. I even lowered the bar and didn't even ask for trophy that his other contemporaries were able to win

Melvyn11:
Talk about the ability of Lampard. Apart from Taking long aimless shots from outside the 18 yards area,he was just ok in all other areas. His shots to goal ratio is embarassing to say the least. Check his word cup shots record as well.

Don't mind biased EPL fans. I respect Lampard quite a bit but his excellence started and ended at Chelsea where he was their primary penalty taker. Padding stats with almost 50 penalties in 600 league appearances.

Went to World Cup and the one penalty England needed him to score he missed.

They will mention him with the Xavi's, Pirlo's etc but ask them to show us Lampard reaching semifinals outside Chelsea and watch them stutter and clutch at straws

Continue with una homerism. When you're done come and show me Lampard crossing quarter final stage of any recognized tournament for England.

Ibime:
What do you mean coach failed to get his position right? Does Lampard have pace more than Schweini?

Nigga came from youth football as the great white hype of attacking midfield and failed in every attacking position for 6 years as popizaino said.

So he took the bytch route and dropped to DM where there is no pressure to be a match-winner. When he sees matchwinners who succeeded where he failed, he should rankadede. Simples.

Schweinsteiger will not be the first nor last player to be played out of position at the start of his career. Henry started as a failed winger and was moved centrally, Ramos morphed from RB to CB

Using a player repeatedly played out of position for the formative years of his career as a negative is disingenuous. The objective thing to do is to gauge that player by what he did when he found his niche and when Bastian did it led to trophies at club and international level. Everything else is story

Moving to Box to box midfielder role did not stop Schweinsteiger from being a match winner. He led the World Cup in assists, Besides this Lampard you're hyping did absolute phbbbbbbttttttt for the Three Lions so stop with the hype. Lampard did absolute zilch outside Chelsea even while surrounded with other 'World class' players like your friend told us

birdman:
nah, he just needs to grow up. grow up and shut up. the media circus that he hates is of his own doing.

i think the problem is these guys are making so much money at such an early age and no one around them is really looking out for them, just looking for a free ride.

It is good that Durant has a strong, supportive mother, but I think he is running into grown man issues and really doest know what to do. dropping 3s on the court is easy compared to adulting

Well clearly he doesn't seem capable of that. For him to not know that engaging random strangers on Twitter and responding to every negative critique of him is a slippery slope that leads to nowhere.

He's not the only player that gets torched on SM but nobody reacts and responds to every Jimmy from Instagram like he does, I mean a whole KD creating burner accounts FFS, Like nigga you're Kevin Durant. You have your own shoe!! He needs to be made to realize his worth and just understand he is past the level of proving anything to anybody but himself

Ibime:
You can't bring a failed attacking midfielder to a successful one.

Schweinsteiger failed as an AM all his career till they switched him to DM in 2008.

When Lampard was collapsing Allianz arena in the mid-2000s and pummeling Bayern in UCL, Schweini was on the pitch, as a nonentity.

When he saw he couldn't compete with his fellow AMs who were flogging him silly, he gave up and became a DM.

He was a great DM, I will give him that. One of the best of his generation. But someone who failed at something should tuale when he see the ones who succeeded at it.

Taaaa!!! It's like a coach not getting a player's right position and you're busy playing the player there. What pace did Schweinsteiger have to play on the wings to begin with?

Don't blame Schweinsteiger for any coaching errors. It is better you judge Schweinsteiger by what he was able to do when playing in his correct position at CM/DM. After all we saw Kante play like a clown last season after he was moved out of his natural habitat

What do you mean pummel Schweinsteiger? Let's even remove the fact that Schweinsteiger was just 20 and didn't even start the first leg but still came off the bench to score. Let's ignore the fact that Bayern squad was rubbish. When Schweinsteiger entered his prime and met Lampard at country level it ended in tears, even the CL una come steal at Bayern you lot had to bunker and were thoroughly outplayed.

After all said and done Schweinsteiger succeeded both for club and country while your Lampard was a well-known international flop and nonentity. His excellence started and ended in Chelsea while Basti joined the likes of Xavi, Pirlo who were dons for both club and country

airmark:
Were you not the one bragging about him scoring goals? I didn't even ask about his assists yet. Now you had to put him as dm in order to cover his weak numbers.

Schweiny should never be brought near Lampard. He is like a tier three midfielder when we are talking about great midfielders we had seen in recent times. Even Kroos would have a mention before him.

Yes meaning Schweinsteiger could give you goals where needed. I never suggested he was a goal machine after all he is not a designated penalty taker like Lampard

But he has scored a decent number of goals for a CM/DM.

He has scored at the Euros, at the World Cup and even led the World Cup in assists as well.

Schweinsteiger is a Boss above Lampard and delivered for club and country even when Germany and Bayern were not at the peak of their powers. Never you compare a bandwagoner like Kroos who's arrival came at just the right moment, to Schweinsteiger who had been running things when Bayern and Germany still paraded mediocre squads