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ZenHallewell:They are the same thing. Both players took the easy way out |
ZenHallewell:The GOAT had 3 titles before Rodman, LeNomad had only won one before Allen. Groß difference In the post season all of Rodman's rebounding numbers dropped. He made the All-defense just once!! ZenHallewell:Nope. Jordan is nothing like KD or LeNomad. The GOAT didn't run from Detroit like both of them ran from their respective situations Up till the time Jordan's Bulls beat the Pistons Pippen had just one all-star appearance. That's it! LeNomad took 2 other all-stars to beat a bunch of aging vets. He out Celtic'd the Celtics. Had the Celtics did what LeNomad did in their primes who knows how many rings they win ZenHallewell:Garnett played both series and they lost in 5 and 7. They were old as hell. And they were 7-8 deep max unless you want to include Brian Scalabrine in your 10 man rotation If Wade and LeNomad is not enough then leave KD to join whichever team he likes ZenHallewell:Are you comparing Eddie House to Rashad Lewis and Mike Miller? Lmaooooo |
Khanben:Thank God you used the word problem. Emphasis on problem. That's their personal problem |
ZenHallewell:Which kin yeye prime. KG and Ray Allen were in their 12th and 13th season in the league. Even Paul Pierce the youngest of the bunch was in his 10th season. Are you asking me if the Celtics didn't become the best team in the league? They literally vaulted from 24-58 to the best record in the league. If there were no guarantees that they were the best team then that is an even bigger indictment on your LeNomad who ran to Miami because he couldn't beat them and ran after his second attempt so make up your mind. How often has anyone beaten two three all-star teams in one postseason with just one all-star? Not even your LeNomad did it so take several seats They humiliated him but came crying to him literally to come and save them. He saved them and led them to two more rings. Shikena |
ZenHallewell:Ray Allen saved Miami's bacon vs San Antonio After Rodman's first season he was averaging 4 points and 9 rebounds per game ![]() The GOAT won a whole 3 peat without Rodman. Don't overestimate his importance ZenHallewell:The joke is on you. Pippen was present for all the 3 previous losses. He could have decided he couldn't win with Pippen and left Jordan didn't bolt when Pippen his second best option was averaging 10 and 13pts per game the entire postseason. He stuck with him and groomed him till he improved Stop with the funny excuses. LeNomad took a shortcut. End of story ZenHallewell:Why did they add Bosh when they already had Wade. LeNomad and Wade would have been enough but they had to add a third all-star to destroy the league. What blunder? Mike Miller, Shane Battier, Rashad Lewis weren't excellent spot up shooters excluding the greatest ever at the time Ray Allen? Are you hungry? |
ZenHallewell:He needed two stars, not one aging vet and one star but two stars who had led their teams to a title and the playoffs respectively. And more importantly were still in their primes to take on the Celtics whose best three players were at an average age of 35 Nobody cares what OKC should have done. They were also in LeNomad's situation only difference being KD was in his 9th year in the league. Had he beaten Golden State he would still have had to take down another team with 3 all-stars. Your MCM destroyed parity when he ran to link up with 2 other all-stars in Miami. That's why at their unveiling they bragged about how many Championships they were going to win till the league gave them a reality check If you don't have any problems with the team that beat him but still went to get him cos they needed him then your blame priorities are not in order |
ZenHallewell:Lmaooo he got Rodman after they won their first threepeat so Rodman don't count, Pippen got drafted. He was developed and wasn't a lottery pick. Fail again The GOAT faced Detroit 3 times. And beat them the 4th time. He didn't run to South Beach to team up with two other all time greats. The Celtics Big 3 were all on the wrong side of 30. Not in their prime so try another excuse LeNomad could have gotten just Bosh and that would be better than what he had in Cleveland. Why did he need a Finals MVP and former scoring champion, Bosh, and other legendary spot up shooters to tilt the competitive balance in his favor |
ZenHallewell:Ohhhh. So you admit LeNomad took a shortcut. Good! We're making progress I'm not interested in who committed the lesser crime. This is like Antonio Margarito and Big Baby Miller arguing about who used less juice Or Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire |
ZenHallewell:They both took shortcuts to rings. Whoever took the shorter cut is not really my concern. A short cut is a short cut |
ZenHallewell:Then he should have stayed in Cleveland if he could do it all by himself. There was no need recruiting Bosh and Wade. How many times did he win the East before joining the Heat? We all know KD didn't join the Warriors because of the Blazers who are arguably not even the second best team in the West. Like I said if they beat the Bucks or Raptors without KD then you might have an argument. But then KD and Golden State are not in the business of helping people's chances The aim is Domination not parity. The onus is on the rest of the league to stop Golden State |
ZenHallewell:Is it K-Love? I thought it was Kyrie. Every day different story. Maybe if LeNomad's cronies Rich Paul didn't get Dan Gilbert to overpay Tristan and J.R Smith they would have been able to fit Paul George into the team No one talked about the Lakers. Stop hallucinating |
Khanben:Is he the first player to play in a small market. Anyway he ran to Miami and crewed up with not one but two elite players in their prime. Never been done in the history of the league That began the free agent arms race! so who is now the judge and jury to determine which free agent is off limits? Especially a team that built it's talents via the draft? It's open season. Kill or be killed steady986:Whatever man |
ZenHallewell:Well nobody cares. In the end they lost. Draymond played the last two games and they lost. If Golden State decided they needed KD to win who are you to argue? steady986:The game is the game. Y'all are just a salty bunch. The Warriors recruited him. Same way LeNomad tried to get Paul George. Nobody is fighting fair so save the narrative |
ZenHallewell:You're missing the point like a free throw. You made it sound like the Heat couldn't survive without LeNomad. Well he left and Heat got to Game 7 of the Conference semifinals (without Bosh) I don't know about this so-called record you speak of but you're dealing with a ridiculously small sample size. Over the full length of a season we saw Wade and Bosh do just fine without LeNomad. But for Bosh's heart issues, who knows how far the Heat would have gone? As for KD. Weren't they sweeping the Blazers before he arrived? Let the Warriors beat a team they aren't expected to beat without KD then we would see how far. And by the way the Warriors have a better record in the playoffs since landing KD. |
ZenHallewell:If they didn't need him to win they could have paid Harrison Barnes max and ran it back with the same team. KD was recruited, he joined and became their best player. We have no evidence the Warriors could win without KD. Steph was outplayed by Kyrie their first time out never mind LeNomad |
The Heat team sans LeNomad had their two best players miss wait for it: 58 games!! And still went 37-45. When Wade and Bosh were fairly healthy they got to to Game 7 of the Conference Semifinals. With Bosh missing the entire postseason. But we're supposed to believe they were terrible when LeNomad left |
ZenHallewell:Not when those names are 3 top 20 players in the league in their athletic primes The Warriors won without him but still needed him to win same way Miami won without Ray Allen but still recruited him to win some more. KD joined them and became their best player not just another passenger ZenHallewell:I would be worried if LeNomad was 26 not 35. It will end in tears for y'all |
ZenHallewell:Let's not overblow Bledsoe's importance. He was a third wheel at best. That one is neither here nor there because I don't consider Bledsoe among the league's elite. However there is a floor level that any credible PG is supposed to be at. Bledsoe has not even been there. Same Bledsoe was embarrassed by Terry Rozier in last season's playoffs. Lol don't bring up the Detroit series. That was a bye Against Boston Bledsoe shat the bed and he is shittin it some more in this ECF. I've told you that he is such a liability offensively that his minutes dropped to a series low of 20 last night. Who is Bledsoe shutting down in this series?? He's almost literally a short 1 on the court |
darkelf:Peyton Manning was a regular season merchant. He's not as good as Montana never mind Tom Brady the GOAT |
ZenHallewell:This is why some of us are so happy when we see LeNomad and his teams fail. Kevin Love averaged 20 points and 11 rebounds in that series. Kevin Love outscored the best player on the Raptors FFS 4 other Cavs scored in double digits. 4!! I swear there are no perks to playing with LeNomad. If you win no credit, if you lose all the blame. No self respecting star ought to play with him walahi ZenHallewell:I just reminded you of their age. Don't be defensive. Paul Pierce made all-star team ZenHallewell:My point exactly. If what LeNomad did was perfect nobody would bash him at all. I am not here to justify what KD did same way I didn't antagonize LeNomad when he bolted to Miami. I don't care. Domination is the name of the game not parity ZenHallewell:Blame it on geography and the terrain at the time. Big player movements were not as frequent then as it is now. ZenHallewell:That's my point. Why should LeNomad be the only one entitled to leave their undesirable situations. Don't tell me LeNomad's reason to leave was righteous. I'm not trying to hear that ZenHallewell:You have been warned ZenHallewell:A Laker team of LeNomad, Kyrie and AD would not get past this present Warriors team. The Knicks are a mess. would rather go the Clippers or the Nets than that overrated franchise the Knicks |
ZenHallewell:Bledsoe plays below expectations everytime. Last year he was outplayed by a backup. This year he played rubbish against the same team and they only advanced because Kyrie was arguably worse. The Conference Finals are here and he's been an absolute pile of self-service. This deep in the Bucks run we cannot point to 1 game and say Milwaukee won because of Bledsoe. His minutes per game are now dropping because he is so rubbish at his primary job that even his defense does not justify him being on the floor. When he improves I will give him his due but for now he sucks |
steady986:Who made you judge to set that parameter. A team adding KG and Ray Allen had nowhere to go but up. If the Cavs could recruit KD they would, after all they tried to get Paul George. The game is the game |
smoosh20:Don't mind these hypocrites. LeNomad is the only player allowed to recruit all-star help and openly team up with all-stars in their primes but other teams are not allowed to do so. What a load of fuckery |
ZenHallewell:Why won't I disregard the Nets with a 34 year old Jason Kidd and Richard Jefferson with 0 all-star appearance. Nobody expected them to win anything Now compare that to a team that even at their unveiling by themselves guaranteed at least 4 Championships. Claiming that the Heat were anything but favorites to dominate the league is megedefegede and you know it LeNomad was a back to back league MVP, Dwyane Wade a Finals MVP and Bosh dragged a rubbish Toronto team to the playoffs. ZenHallewell:My only issue with KD is the fact that he even cares about what anyone has to say. He lacks the Mamba mentality and it's heartbreaking to see cos he's Kevin Durant and he shouldn't give a shyte. After all there are people who don't believe Tom Brady is the GOAT QB and is a product of Belichick's system so what can KD prove. I initially wanted KD leaving Golden State this summer but now more than ever I want him to stay so people can keep crying and complaining while the rings keep coming |
steady986:Nobody cares if they went 0-82 and missed the last 10 playoffs. When the Celtics Big Three formed they were 16-66 yet everyone knew they were going to be a problem |
Roland17:Lol the way I see it Super teams started with Barkley, Olajuwon, Drexler (later Pippen) Old (mid 30's) relatively past their prime greats on the wrong side of 30 Lakers Malone, Shaq, Kobe Payton 2 of the 4 were on fumes KG, Allen, Pierce. (2007-2012) Just nearing the end of their prime early 30's LeBron, Wade, Bosh Super team formed with all 3 at their athletic primes 28 and younger Golden State You can see the evolution. Just like from the first Android to Android Pie. It's just that human beings by nature are full of double standards and hypocritical. Everyone tried to beat the system one way or the other. One team just took it to the next level |
ZenHallewell:Does it matter if they went to Tennessee? A team with Wade, LeNomad and Chris Bosh combining what will the expected outcome be? No need to split hairs Why and who is the judge of what's best for KD? The onus is on the rest of the league to find a way to stop the Warriors not for KD and the Warriors to care about how they are perceived. Why did Sir Alex go on to sign Golden Boot winner Robin Van Persie? Everyone is trying to destroy opposition any which way. This is not a morality business |
steady986:The Heat needed him but he ran there. Who had a Championship title before LeNomad joined them LeNomad or the Heat? KD needed GS but they flew their entire squad to the Hamptons to recruit him. Abeg make I hear word |
ZenHallewell:The Bucks aren't playing today. Eric Bledsoe is straight trash homie! I didn't make my assessment off of one series. Steph Curry has never played as poorly as Eric friggin Bledsoe. This nigga is averaging 8pts per game on 24% shooting!!! WTF?? |
steady986:Then you should have had LeNomad stay with the Cavs and not join the Heat when he did then let's see how many Finals he would have gotten to |
ZenHallewell:So when we decry the level of competition why do you lot keep arguing? Just last year they beat a team led by a rookie to get to the Finals. Of course the streak itself is remarkable but the caliber of competition in the East was dodgy and that's just the bitter truth. ZenHallewell:Ray Allen - 36 Kevin Garnett - 35 Paul Pierce - 34 ZenHallewell:That's my point. It depends on who you ask. The guys that stuck with bad teams till they became great (Hakeem, Dirk, Lillard, Reggie, Ewing) will see LeNomad and co in the same light that Bronsexuals see KD. Who are you to judge? ZenHallewell:Taaaa! LeNomad ran into a Celtics brickwall in the 7th year of his career. Why didn't he stay the course and keep trying to take them down? They were aging and LeNomad was entering his athletic prime. To try and compete? Lmaoo! I would understand if the Celtics were a young stacked team but they were old as hell and already on their last legs so I'm not buying that excuse The GOAT didn't run from Chicago after losing 3 straight years to the Bad boy Pistons. He kept fighting till he swept them and sent them to early retirement Why will I witness that then praise LeNomad for crewing up with two top 20 players in the league (one in the top 10) and castigate KD based off semantics? They both bolted their teams for greener pastures And need I remind you that 73 win team recruited KD. Blame Golden State not KD ZenHallewell:LeNomad's decline will be swift and brutal. Don't say I didn't warn you. ZenHallewell:If the Lakers get AD and Kyrie they will still catch that L. I'm praying the Lakers trade their entire young core for injury prone AD and Kyrie and a LeNomad who is staring down the barrel of Father Time's revolver. You will rant more next season than you did this season ZenHallewell:Selling a few more jerseys does nothing for KD's bottom line. KD has said it himself that since joining the Warriors there are numerous opportunities he would never have known about if he was still in Oklahoma. Besides NY is a financial hub not a tech one which KD seems to be more interested in dabbling into |
steady986:So why are you asking me Jamb Questions? All I know is that in his 7 years in the League, he only made 1 Finals appearance previously. Whether he was 26,36 or 46 that one no concern me |
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