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SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:29pm On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
No the problem is people who have the audacity to call it the same thing.
They are the same thing. Both players took the easy way out
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:27pm On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
Lebron too won without Ray Allen toohuh

And Rodman led the league in rebounding consecutively from from 1992-1998 including all the years he was with that bald gambler. Rodman averaged 15 16 and15 rebounds the seasons he won with the bulls. Also made the all defensive first team. Rodman was never a scorer.
The GOAT had 3 titles before Rodman, LeNomad had only won one before Allen. Groß difference

In the post season all of Rodman's rebounding numbers dropped. He made the All-defense just once!!

ZenHallewell:
And this is where you compare Jordan to Kevin Durant not lebron. Lebron never had a second like pippen, KD had westbrook. Jordan didnt bolt, he stayed and beat the pistons. Just like lebron when he couldnt get a decent team formed a decent team to beat the celtics.
Nope. Jordan is nothing like KD or LeNomad. The GOAT didn't run from Detroit like both of them ran from their respective situations

Up till the time Jordan's Bulls beat the Pistons Pippen had just one all-star appearance. That's it!

LeNomad took 2 other all-stars to beat a bunch of aging vets. He out Celtic'd the Celtics. Had the Celtics did what LeNomad did in their primes who knows how many rings they win

ZenHallewell:
LOL! Even with lebron it took them 6 to beat them without garnett and 7 games with garnett. No wade and lebron wasnt enough, that celtics team as a tough team with Hall of famers and seasoned veterans. Went 10 men deep too.
Garnett played both series and they lost in 5 and 7. They were old as hell.

And they were 7-8 deep max unless you want to include Brian Scalabrine in your 10 man rotation

If Wade and LeNomad is not enough then leave KD to join whichever team he likes

ZenHallewell:
Legendary spot up shooters. LOOOL! Eddie house was arguably the best shooter on that team.
Are you comparing Eddie House to Rashad Lewis and Mike Miller? Lmaooooo
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:44pm On May 23, 2019
Khanben:
The difference for those who have a problem with it is that KD left a team with an all NBA and MVP caliber player, and Lebron did not
Thank God you used the word problem. Emphasis on problem. That's their personal problem
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:34pm On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
When the celtics put together 3 franchise players in their prime did anyone protest? When the celtics were put together were they 35? Did that make the boston celtics the best team in the league? They won one friggin ring! There was no guarantee that they were better than everyone else. The warriors on the other hand were better than everyone else without him!

Lebron was excited the finally had a decent team after dragging more bums than tom daley all his career! KD on the other hand, if he could beat a 73 win warrior team with 3 allstars as well, why shouldnt he take his chances against the cavs? Naah he'd rather choke and skew the balance.


This literally makes no sense whatsoever! They already humiliated him, they have nothing against him. Why wouldnt they want to get better, him on the other hand has no competitive bone in is body.
Which kin yeye prime. KG and Ray Allen were in their 12th and 13th season in the league. Even Paul Pierce the youngest of the bunch was in his 10th season.

Are you asking me if the Celtics didn't become the best team in the league? They literally vaulted from 24-58 to the best record in the league.

If there were no guarantees that they were the best team then that is an even bigger indictment on your LeNomad who ran to Miami because he couldn't beat them and ran after his second attempt so make up your mind.

How often has anyone beaten two three all-star teams in one postseason with just one all-star? Not even your LeNomad did it so take several seats

They humiliated him but came crying to him literally to come and save them. He saved them and led them to two more rings. Shikena
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:17pm On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
Isnt this the same bloke who brings up ray allen anytime he mentions the heatles? cheesy
Ray Allen saved Miami's bacon vs San Antonio

After Rodman's first season he was averaging 4 points and 9 rebounds per game grin grin

The GOAT won a whole 3 peat without Rodman. Don't overestimate his importance

ZenHallewell:
Another bad joke! He got pippen before he could beat them, did lebron get a pippen? Or a phil jackson? So he should remain with an incompetent front office? LMAO! If it wasnt the celtics it would have been another more well run organization.
The joke is on you. Pippen was present for all the 3 previous losses. He could have decided he couldn't win with Pippen and left

Jordan didn't bolt when Pippen his second best option was averaging 10 and 13pts per game the entire postseason. He stuck with him and groomed him till he improved

Stop with the funny excuses. LeNomad took a shortcut. End of story

ZenHallewell:
Gotten Bosh? To Cleveland? LMAO! They wanted to send him to cleveland, chris bosh flat out refused! As for KD, what competitive balance? wake up! Theres no competition in the league!

Now he has forgotten Ray Allens name because he has realised his blunder its now "legendary spot up shooters" grin
Why did they add Bosh when they already had Wade. LeNomad and Wade would have been enough but they had to add a third all-star to destroy the league.

What blunder? Mike Miller, Shane Battier, Rashad Lewis weren't excellent spot up shooters excluding the greatest ever at the time Ray Allen? Are you hungry?
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:53pm On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
If they had given him one reasonable second he would have. He won the east once then the celtics went and put 3 hall of famers on the same team. How was he going to contend with that with friggin mo williams?

OKC as built couldve challenged golden state and should've beat them if not for KDs choke job. There was parity and instead of figuring out how to beat them in or out of OKC he decided to go overwhelmingly skew the balance in one teams favor.

i have no problem with the warriors going after him, but hes a b-cth for going there. At least he did whats best for him right? Well hes still a b-cth! mess with the bull you best make sure you're ready to get the horns.
He needed two stars, not one aging vet and one star but two stars who had led their teams to a title and the playoffs respectively. And more importantly were still in their primes to take on the Celtics whose best three players were at an average age of 35

Nobody cares what OKC should have done. They were also in LeNomad's situation only difference being KD was in his 9th year in the league. Had he beaten Golden State he would still have had to take down another team with 3 all-stars. Your MCM destroyed parity when he ran to link up with 2 other all-stars in Miami. That's why at their unveiling they bragged about how many Championships they were going to win till the league gave them a reality check


If you don't have any problems with the team that beat him but still went to get him cos they needed him then your blame priorities are not in order
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:45pm On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
Of course he took a short cut. Just like jordan did when he got pippen and eventually rodman, just like pierce garnett and allen did? oh wait its not a short cut when a front office puts together a good team?

All lebron wanted was a decent team to compete and if he had that he would've stayed. KD had that, choked and then ran to the team he couldnt beat.
Lmaooo he got Rodman after they won their first threepeat so Rodman don't count, Pippen got drafted. He was developed and wasn't a lottery pick. Fail again

The GOAT faced Detroit 3 times. And beat them the 4th time. He didn't run to South Beach to team up with two other all time greats.

The Celtics Big 3 were all on the wrong side of 30. Not in their prime so try another excuse

LeNomad could have gotten just Bosh and that would be better than what he had in Cleveland. Why did he need a Finals MVP and former scoring champion, Bosh, and other legendary spot up shooters to tilt the competitive balance in his favor
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:29pm On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
But a short cut is not a short cut. Some shortcuts just mean the race is pointless to begin with. One took a short cut so he can compete without handicap, the other took a short cut to make sure no one can compete but him.
Ohhhh. So you admit LeNomad took a shortcut. Good! We're making progress

I'm not interested in who committed the lesser crime.

This is like Antonio Margarito and Big Baby Miller arguing about who used less juice

Or Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:13pm On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
Point is, that situation is not comparable to KDs at all!
They both took shortcuts to rings. Whoever took the shorter cut is not really my concern. A short cut is a short cut
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:08pm On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
Lets put it this way, take lebron off the heat and put him on the bulls or the pacers or the sixers or celtics, who would've won the east? He made them viable finals teams not the other way round.

Thats the point, the warriors should beat the blazers because the warriors without KD are still the best team in the league. Why would you add to that and ruin everyones chances? A team you had the chance to beat on your own and blow it?
Then he should have stayed in Cleveland if he could do it all by himself. There was no need recruiting Bosh and Wade. How many times did he win the East before joining the Heat?

We all know KD didn't join the Warriors because of the Blazers who are arguably not even the second best team in the West. Like I said if they beat the Bucks or Raptors without KD then you might have an argument. But then KD and Golden State are not in the business of helping people's chances

The aim is Domination not parity. The onus is on the rest of the league to stop Golden State
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:02pm On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
The cavs tried to get paul george after the warriors got KD. They were also going to trade K LOve for him so its minus one "all star".


As for the lakers, lebron never tried to get paul george actually. Thats a straight up lie. Paul George re-signed with OKC before lebron got to LA.
Is it K-Love? I thought it was Kyrie. Every day different story. Maybe if LeNomad's cronies Rich Paul didn't get Dan Gilbert to overpay Tristan and J.R Smith they would have been able to fit Paul George into the team

No one talked about the Lakers. Stop hallucinating
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 2:59pm On May 23, 2019
Khanben:
One of The main reason if i remember correctly why Lebron left Cleveland in the first place was that he found it difficult to recruit free agents to join him. Chicago on the other hand is a dream place for free agents. Apart from the teams in LA and NY I don't think there is a bigger market than Chicago
Is he the first player to play in a small market. Anyway he ran to Miami and crewed up with not one but two elite players in their prime. Never been done in the history of the league

That began the free agent arms race! so who is now the judge and jury to determine which free agent is off limits? Especially a team that built it's talents via the draft? It's open season. Kill or be killed

steady986:
How do you blame someone who has no flaws? Someone who's excellent in the game of basketball.
Whatever man
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 2:52pm On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
They won without him, took a 3-1 lead in 2016 without him and who knows, maybe draymonds suspension is why they lost. Now we'll never know. Durant robbed everyone of a great rivalry.
Well nobody cares. In the end they lost. Draymond played the last two games and they lost. If Golden State decided they needed KD to win who are you to argue?

steady986:
Lol. The game ain't the game bro. KD cheated, and the world knows it...and he knows it too
The game is the game. Y'all are just a salty bunch. The Warriors recruited him. Same way LeNomad tried to get Paul George. Nobody is fighting fair so save the narrative
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 2:48pm On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
LOL Suddenly we remember injuries happen. Part of lebrons contribution bar this season is his longevity and consistency, with wade and bosh down lebron still would've made the playoffs. While lebron was with the heat, wade and bosh had a losing record without lebron. Wade and bosh missed multiple games while lebron was there but he still guided them to wins.

Durant on the other hand... His team has a better record without him than with him SMH!
You're missing the point like a free throw. You made it sound like the Heat couldn't survive without LeNomad. Well he left and Heat got to Game 7 of the Conference semifinals (without Bosh)

I don't know about this so-called record you speak of but you're dealing with a ridiculously small sample size. Over the full length of a season we saw Wade and Bosh do just fine without LeNomad. But for Bosh's heart issues, who knows how far the Heat would have gone?

As for KD. Weren't they sweeping the Blazers before he arrived? Let the Warriors beat a team they aren't expected to beat without KD then we would see how far.

And by the way the Warriors have a better record in the playoffs since landing KD.
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:13am On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
Ray Allen wasnt the second best player in the league, not by a long shot. Man was a 90 year old spot up shooter. And whats the proof that they needed him to win when they won without him and just lost in 7 in the finals?


LOL! Watch this... "Relentless, overwhelming, unforgiving!...Thats your future now, and i'd feel sorry for you. If it wasnt going to be so much damn fun to watch".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL5YzXLwjLM
If they didn't need him to win they could have paid Harrison Barnes max and ran it back with the same team.

KD was recruited, he joined and became their best player. We have no evidence the Warriors could win without KD. Steph was outplayed by Kyrie their first time out never mind LeNomad
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:09am On May 23, 2019
The Heat team sans LeNomad had their two best players miss wait for it: 58 games!! And still went 37-45.

When Wade and Bosh were fairly healthy they got to to Game 7 of the Conference Semifinals. With Bosh missing the entire postseason.

But we're supposed to believe they were terrible when LeNomad left
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:02am On May 23, 2019
ZenHallewell:
These were your exact words. In other words names on the team sheet dont mean they'll succeed. The warriors were already established. Did i mention he blew a 3-1 lead against them? The warriors won without him and still do.

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Not when those names are 3 top 20 players in the league in their athletic primes

The Warriors won without him but still needed him to win same way Miami won without Ray Allen but still recruited him to win some more. KD joined them and became their best player not just another passenger

ZenHallewell:
If kawhi/kyrie and AD come i hope he stays, if only one does i hope he goes to NY or the clippers. Either way, the warriors are winning their last ring this year.
I would be worried if LeNomad was 26 not 35. It will end in tears for y'all
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 11:57pm On May 22, 2019
ZenHallewell:
Bledsoe was a huge part of their success in the regular season, hes one of their most important players. Suddenly they should fling all of that out of the window? Suddenly bledsoe cant play basketball when they wouldnt be here without him? LOL! All players have slumps, until they dont anymore. He played well against the pistons, he will bounce back. I'm not about to just call quits on someones career all because hes facing something most superstars in the NBA face every single year especially someone whose offense alone doesnt define him and plays both ends of the game.
Let's not overblow Bledsoe's importance. He was a third wheel at best. That one is neither here nor there because I don't consider Bledsoe among the league's elite.

However there is a floor level that any credible PG is supposed to be at. Bledsoe has not even been there. Same Bledsoe was embarrassed by Terry Rozier in last season's playoffs.

Lol don't bring up the Detroit series. That was a bye

Against Boston Bledsoe shat the bed and he is shittin it some more in this ECF. I've told you that he is such a liability offensively that his minutes dropped to a series low of 20 last night. Who is Bledsoe shutting down in this series?? He's almost literally a short 1 on the court
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 11:13pm On May 22, 2019
darkelf:
Peyton manning without a doubt
Peyton Manning was a regular season merchant. He's not as good as Montana never mind Tom Brady the GOAT
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 11:11pm On May 22, 2019
ZenHallewell:
They also swept a 60 win raptor team who were the favorites in the semis who bar lebron add any other superstar in the league to that cavs team and they would have beaten them, the pacers too. Barely a playoffs team with any other superstar in the league bar lebron that cavs team so...

I'm glad you're able to admit that, no need for "buts"
This is why some of us are so happy when we see LeNomad and his teams fail.

Kevin Love averaged 20 points and 11 rebounds in that series. Kevin Love outscored the best player on the Raptors FFS

4 other Cavs scored in double digits. 4!!

I swear there are no perks to playing with LeNomad. If you win no credit, if you lose all the blame. No self respecting star ought to play with him walahi

ZenHallewell:
Dont move the goal post, you asked for another team with 3 allstars and i gave you one. And i dont think pierce made the allstar team, rondo did.
I just reminded you of their age. Don't be defensive. Paul Pierce made all-star team

ZenHallewell:
People like barkley who came out to destroy lebron for joining the heat came out to discuss the parallels and rightfully so. Its one thing creating a super team, GMs do that all the time why not players? But what KD did is just too abhorrent. Like i said, he couldve teamed up with as many superstars as he wanted somewhere else and few people will bat an eye.
My point exactly. If what LeNomad did was perfect nobody would bash him at all.

I am not here to justify what KD did same way I didn't antagonize LeNomad when he bolted to Miami. I don't care. Domination is the name of the game not parity

ZenHallewell:
I'm sorry have you heard of Dan Gilbert? Put his legacy and trust in that mans hands? LOL! If it wasnt the celtics it wouldve been some other team with a more competent front office. 7 years and the best they could give him was mo williams? SMH!
Blame it on geography and the terrain at the time. Big player movements were not as frequent then as it is now.

ZenHallewell:
It worked out for MJ but how did it work out for malone barkley and co? when they finally did try to win it was too late for them.
That's my point. Why should LeNomad be the only one entitled to leave their undesirable situations. Don't tell me LeNomad's reason to leave was righteous. I'm not trying to hear that

ZenHallewell:
Yeah it will, at the age of 50 maybe. Not now.
You have been warned

ZenHallewell:
Yeah ADs injury may be an issue. But thats a hypothetical, a laker team of lebron kyrie and AD I repeat will rape the whole NBA with no lube.


Theres also the knicks if Cali is really that important to him. But right now the Knicks are the perfect fit.
A Laker team of LeNomad, Kyrie and AD would not get past this present Warriors team.

The Knicks are a mess. would rather go the Clippers or the Nets than that overrated franchise the Knicks
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:49pm On May 22, 2019
ZenHallewell:
Yeah tomorrow. But i'm saying some players play below expectations sometimes. Bledsoe has never been a great shooter, nor has he ever been a great scorer hes always been a reliable stable PG who is also a great defender. You'll soon understand why the law of averages may only apply in the NBA. Ohh and first team all defense man, put some respect on his name. Those muscles arent completely useless.
Bledsoe plays below expectations everytime. Last year he was outplayed by a backup.

This year he played rubbish against the same team and they only advanced because Kyrie was arguably worse.

The Conference Finals are here and he's been an absolute pile of self-service. This deep in the Bucks run we cannot point to 1 game and say Milwaukee won because of Bledsoe. His minutes per game are now dropping because he is so rubbish at his primary job that even his defense does not justify him being on the floor.

When he improves I will give him his due but for now he sucks
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:42pm On May 22, 2019
steady986:
Exactly, that is a team that needed help, and not GS
Who made you judge to set that parameter. A team adding KG and Ray Allen had nowhere to go but up.

If the Cavs could recruit KD they would, after all they tried to get Paul George. The game is the game
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:40pm On May 22, 2019
smoosh20:
You'd make a great father with your patience I swear as you keep answering this guy and his elder brother here hoping they might learn someday. Cos I swear I won't even bother answering this regurgitated crap everytime.


[s]"LeBron case is different because he joined the Heat with Bosh he didn't blow a 3-1 to them and they didn't have a 73-9 record. "[/s]
Like Kevin Wayne Durant was supposed to ask one Sheikh on NL who had kunu for iftar what team is ok for him sign? He did what free agents have the right to do. How hard is it to stop riding another man's shaft and let KD be?
Don't mind these hypocrites. LeNomad is the only player allowed to recruit all-star help and openly team up with all-stars in their primes but other teams are not allowed to do so. What a load of fuckery
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:34pm On May 22, 2019
ZenHallewell:
You've claimed many times before that stars dont make teams. The 2007 nets you disregard, or carmelo and amaare. You've said many times that sometimes they bomb, why backtrack on that now? cause its against your argument? The warriors on the other hand we already knew were a 73 win final team at least. Stop being disingenuous.
Why won't I disregard the Nets with a 34 year old Jason Kidd and Richard Jefferson with 0 all-star appearance. Nobody expected them to win anything

Now compare that to a team that even at their unveiling by themselves guaranteed at least 4 Championships. Claiming that the Heat were anything but favorites to dominate the league is megedefegede and you know it

LeNomad was a back to back league MVP, Dwyane Wade a Finals MVP and Bosh dragged a rubbish Toronto team to the playoffs.

ZenHallewell:
Well he made his bed, he should sleep in it. He did whats best for him but screws the whole league? Fine! But how about he should stop b-tching when people tell him how soft his move was. If whats best for him means no one actually respects him or his plastic rings then he should be able to live with people telling him that.
My only issue with KD is the fact that he even cares about what anyone has to say. He lacks the Mamba mentality and it's heartbreaking to see cos he's Kevin Durant and he shouldn't give a shyte. After all there are people who don't believe Tom Brady is the GOAT QB and is a product of Belichick's system so what can KD prove.

I initially wanted KD leaving Golden State this summer but now more than ever I want him to stay so people can keep crying and complaining while the rings keep coming
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:20pm On May 22, 2019
steady986:
The Heat didn't win 73 game the previous season and didn't go to the finals the previous two years.
Nobody cares if they went 0-82 and missed the last 10 playoffs.

When the Celtics Big Three formed they were 16-66 yet everyone knew they were going to be a problem
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:17pm On May 22, 2019
Roland17:
I get tired of that false narrative especially when we know the truth and how things transpired. I will agree that KD and the Warriors needed each other but I will not entertain the argument that KD needed the Warriors more than they needed him, irrespective of how many championships he wins with them. If KD joined the Celtics and won the championship people will still be mad and argue he joined a team that was already established in the East.
Lol the way I see it Super teams started with

Barkley, Olajuwon, Drexler (later Pippen)

Old (mid 30's) relatively past their prime greats on the wrong side of 30

Lakers Malone, Shaq, Kobe Payton

2 of the 4 were on fumes

KG, Allen, Pierce. (2007-2012)

Just nearing the end of their prime early 30's

LeBron, Wade, Bosh

Super team formed with all 3 at their athletic primes 28 and younger

Golden State

You can see the evolution. Just like from the first Android to Android Pie.

It's just that human beings by nature are full of double standards and hypocritical. Everyone tried to beat the system one way or the other. One team just took it to the next level
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:01pm On May 22, 2019
ZenHallewell:
Mind you, Lebron and wade considered not signing up in miami but in new york or chicago as well. Wasnt just about the organization.

I've always said i dont have a problem with the warriors going after him, i have a problem with him joining them.
Does it matter if they went to Tennessee? A team with Wade, LeNomad and Chris Bosh combining what will the expected outcome be? No need to split hairs

Why and who is the judge of what's best for KD? The onus is on the rest of the league to find a way to stop the Warriors not for KD and the Warriors to care about how they are perceived. Why did Sir Alex go on to sign Golden Boot winner Robin Van Persie? Everyone is trying to destroy opposition any which way. This is not a morality business
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 9:51pm On May 22, 2019
steady986:
Don't you get it? The heat needed him more than he needed them. Unlike KD who needed GS more than they needed him
The Heat needed him but he ran there. Who had a Championship title before LeNomad joined them LeNomad or the Heat?

KD needed GS but they flew their entire squad to the Hamptons to recruit him. Abeg make I hear word
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 9:43pm On May 22, 2019
ZenHallewell:
A40 Chic2pimp


Exhibit A. I wont say anything else until after the bucks play today. Mark me, he'll make you swallow your words. Many superstars have had bad playoff series before doesnt automatically make them bums. Curry played like a bum for certain stretches in this playoffs, didnt hear you lot calling for his head on a pike. Leave the man alone.
The Bucks aren't playing today.

Eric Bledsoe is straight trash homie! I didn't make my assessment off of one series.

Steph Curry has never played as poorly as Eric friggin Bledsoe.

This nigga is averaging 8pts per game on 24% shooting!!! WTF??
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 8:55pm On May 22, 2019
steady986:
Which isn't unusual.
Then you should have had LeNomad stay with the Cavs and not join the Heat when he did then let's see how many Finals he would have gotten to
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 8:49pm On May 22, 2019
ZenHallewell:
Granted the heat were better than most eastern teams but the most competitive teams are from the west. Like i said the only constant about finals teams from 2011 to 2018 is lebron james, No one in the east had an answer for him and i guess that may have hurt his legacy to an an extent because he faced superior western teams in the finals hence the finals record. Add lebron to any eastern contender, the result would have been the same, he skewed the scales, he tipped the balance in the east.
So when we decry the level of competition why do you lot keep arguing? Just last year they beat a team led by a rookie to get to the Finals. Of course the streak itself is remarkable but the caliber of competition in the East was dodgy and that's just the bitter truth.


ZenHallewell:
I'm really glad you caught yourself here, Rajon Rondo, Ray Allen and KG all from the celtics made the all star game. PS The celtics were in the east.
Ray Allen - 36
Kevin Garnett - 35
Paul Pierce - 34

ZenHallewell:
You just claimed their moves were the same even though they couldnt be further apart, if you can arbitrate so badly, I am well within my rights to chime in.
That's my point. It depends on who you ask. The guys that stuck with bad teams till they became great (Hakeem, Dirk, Lillard, Reggie, Ewing) will see LeNomad and co in the same light that Bronsexuals see KD.

Who are you to judge?

ZenHallewell:
Your argument here totally missed the point. You are dancing away form the real point here. You claimed lebron and KDs move were the same, how are they the same? Lebron formed a team to try and compete. Another joined an already formed team that beat him BTW after he went 3-1 up against them and choked. A team that was already bullying the league and you join up to bully others instead of figuring out how to beat them or form a team that can? By any competitive standard that is super weak. Its the classic you cant beat them you join them move that weaklings are known to make.
Taaaa! LeNomad ran into a Celtics brickwall in the 7th year of his career. Why didn't he stay the course and keep trying to take them down? They were aging and LeNomad was entering his athletic prime.

To try and compete? Lmaoo! I would understand if the Celtics were a young stacked team but they were old as hell and already on their last legs so I'm not buying that excuse

The GOAT didn't run from Chicago after losing 3 straight years to the Bad boy Pistons. He kept fighting till he swept them and sent them to early retirement

Why will I witness that then praise LeNomad for crewing up with two top 20 players in the league (one in the top 10) and castigate KD based off semantics? They both bolted their teams for greener pastures

And need I remind you that 73 win team recruited KD. Blame Golden State not KD

ZenHallewell:
I remember as recently as 2018 when you lot claimed father time came for him. Or when he had back issues in miami and you lot claimed the same. Only he came back and put up legendary performances and remains on top till this day!
LeNomad's decline will be swift and brutal. Don't say I didn't warn you.

ZenHallewell:
LOOOOOL! If the lakers get AD and Kyrie, i repeat, the lakers will beat the warriors so bad, including kevin durant that oakland will be annexed to mexico. Just add some 3 and D players to that and the west will become "weak" just like you lot claim the east was weak.
If the Lakers get AD and Kyrie they will still catch that L. I'm praying the Lakers trade their entire young core for injury prone AD and Kyrie and a LeNomad who is staring down the barrel of Father Time's revolver. You will rant more next season than you did this season

ZenHallewell:
NOOOPE! Another common misconception, business can be handled anywhere. Space jam can be filmed in a few weeks during summer. Business played a role, but the major factor was his family. Bronny Jr especially who he wanted to come to a competitive basketball school in LA. A lot of players without charisma sell merchandise just by virtue of being the star players in huge markets, charisma has nothing to do with it. Embiid Butler and Simmons are top 10 in jersey sales, thats market power, not just charisma. Only the warriors have two players in the top 10.
Selling a few more jerseys does nothing for KD's bottom line. KD has said it himself that since joining the Warriors there are numerous opportunities he would never have known about if he was still in Oklahoma. Besides NY is a financial hub not a tech one which KD seems to be more interested in dabbling into
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 8:22pm On May 22, 2019
steady986:
How many players went to 4 straight finals before they turned 26?
So why are you asking me Jamb Questions? All I know is that in his 7 years in the League, he only made 1 Finals appearance previously. Whether he was 26,36 or 46 that one no concern me

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