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Lmaooo Fury ducking Wilder rematch and now Dilian Whyte. All he does is talk shyte about AJ. Sick of this dosser!

I'm hearing no extension for D'Antoni. Things are really falling apart

Melo's stint at OKC was the Coup de grace. And the fact that he had zero interest in playing defense even with his size just kills everything. He should just go to China and be a King there like Stephon Marbury did

KarnThornheart:
I think with wilder Joshua. Haymon is trying to build it to Mayweather type money which is feasible. But how long do people have to wait?

I find their antics a bit bizarre. AJ has the least to lose because he can fight a cabman in England and put 70k in Wembley. Guy like Wilder doesn't have that luxury so why is he tying himself to these nonsense fights no one wants to see? I heard he has Kownacki lined up next. FFS!!

Fury said Showtime did 320k for their fight in the US. I would be suprised if Wilder and Ortiz 2 does 200k

They need AJ than AJ needs them

KarnThornheart:
People have been clamouring for the return of the Diaz brothers but I'm not one of such people. Though they've never been champions the Diaz brothers have paid their dues in the UFC. Listen to them speak you know these guys already have brain damage from their aggressive fighting style. I'm not trying to see a man keep shortening his life like this.

As for DC I'm definitely more excited about this one, the best fight for him to make for everyone involved bar obviously Jones who won't easily move to heavyweight. Won't be as easy, but I reckon bar a miracle, the fat man wins again.

Lool probably money is low because I don't see why he came back. Rarely do lengthy layoffs end well like we saw with Velasquez

I doubt Bones ever moves to Heavyweight. The risk/reward is too disproportionate. One well-timed blow can undo everything. I think age will tell on DC. Miocic probably took him for granted that first fight. I like Stipe (provided he stayed in shape during his layoff)

birdman:
Bros it happens to the best. An excellent night of clubbing and debauchery! Then you wake up the next morning and SEE what you brought home last night. Then you jump in the shower, praying with bitter tears and hoping to scrub away the memory. Morey will bouce back

What perplexes me is how they don't see what even we the man on the street can

Did he think Chris Paul in his 14th season in the league who had missed 20 games each of the last two seasons before this would suddenly stumble on the fountain of youth?

birdman:
e no get option if you think am

Lmaooo can they get a deal with the Lakers? This is why I said Daryl Morey is grossly overrated

I'm thinking that apart from them, the Bulls, Heat and maybe Charlotte if they can't pay Walker (which would be stupid if Chris Paul was their alternative) I don't know who else would be willing to take his contract

If I were a GM for any of those teams I'm demanding 3 first rounders at least for that millstone of a salary because CP3 will drastically get worse as most players in their mid-30's get. They fell for the if CP3 was healthy narrative forgetting this ninja is never healthy

If not for Cech you guys could have lost 7-1. These players don't have shame. There is nothing Emery can do for and to players that refuse to have shame.

Lmaooo if you thought the Vettel years of dominance was boring. This is probably worse

Wake me up when next season begins

Lool Morey trying to move Capela and CP3 the year after giving them those contracts

SmooshCHN:
Barnes $25m? He can't even hit open shots since 2015. I'd let him walk if possible. Charlotte already shot themselves with Batum and it'll only get worse with Kemba. It's like money dey this NBA sha.

Lool Barnes has a player option. I doubt he's dumb enough to pass on $25m. Nobody will pay him that on the open market

Well Kemba was on a dirt cheap contract. He's like the 5th or 6th best guy on the team. I won't lie if I'm Kemba I wouldn't leave $1 on the table. Now whether the GOAT and Kupchak offers Kemba the Supermax remains to be seen

SmooshCHN:
Sacramento Kings will probably give Harrison Barnes $25M.. Can't forgive him since he went 5-32 from 3 from game 5-7.

In this league there is nothing worse than overpaying an average player. This why it took so long for Portland to get to the next level and why Charlotte might never get there. He would probably pick up his player option for this year but unless he balls at all-star level the Kings better offer him a significant paycut so they can pay their young guys in future and attract a quality FA

And for those calling a Warriors sweep. Not so fast! Kawhi and Damian Lillard iyato wa oo. Can't see this series not going at least 6 games and if KD does not return it's 50-50 (the caveat is Kawhi's teammates not playing at G-LEAGUE level)

Roland17:
Kawhi does not seem like the kind of guy that would enjoy the bright lights of LA or NY. I think he has thrived in Toronto because of the low celebrity demand especially with the media and paparazzi in comparison to the larger markets.
If he was a US market, news about his thigh injury would have been exaggerated and that would have irked him but the Canadian media have respected his privacy and not invaded his life with news about his injury. This would be almost impossible in the US.
The Raptors season can be termed successful at this point. It was important for them to end this series tonight so they can rest before Thursday.

Apart from potentially paying taxes in two countries why on earth would I leave Toronto if I'm Kawhi? You have a whole country behind you. With the market size and sans the drama. It's a no-brainer. I'd stay if I were Kawhi

KarnThornheart:
Yeah yeah whatever.


In more interesting news. I think I believe flex mentallo now. At least at this juncture wilder and his team seem like they're avoiding that fight. They're hell bent on him fighting ortiz next. I don't know what that hermit Al Haymon is up to. Granted he's a genius and he's doing what he thinks is best for his fighter but why do these guys keep screwing the fans?

I'm sick of these fighters doing the Ducking musical chairs right now. Ortiz ran from a cool $7m and Wilder ran from a sure $40m with a rematch win, lose or draw. Maybe it's time to switch to UFC

Speaking of UFC it's Miocic vs DC 2 in UFC 241. And Nate Diaz making a comeback

KarnThornheart:
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LOL he's not the only one who made that prediction though.

I'm just pissin on another of his predictions gone south. The guy is clueless. All he does is reel out stats like a zombie. No brake no jam no sense.

The Bucks must be cursing the day this Muppet of an analyst joined their bandwagon. No critical thinking just reels out stats and stats and more stats

KarnThornheart:
And Kemba should definitely not take a cut. He deserves to get paid. Especially after all the years of abuse and hardship he endured at the hands of the degenerate gambler. What you are talking about is highly implausible. There's nothing to suggest that the bucks are that desperate enough to get rid of bledsoe who again was a huge part of their success to do something so drastic.

What defines a player? How many times have we seen superstars consistently bomb in the playoffs? Again does that mean they're useless?

Just like derozan let Lowry down Giannis definitely let his team down with is one dimensional offense. He definitely underperformed. Again if all you do is get to the rim you will get exposed in the playoffs. Simmons Westbrook Giannis if you can't shoot you'll get exposed. Same goes for bledsoe I guess but he's not the superstar Giannis is. If he had come through we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I know it's a far-fetched idea. I was just suggesting a way the Bucks could improve. They need much better point guard play than they are getting thus far from Bledsoe

I don't know why you're holding brief for a Bledsoe that was outplayed by a young backup last year and his backup this year. He is a rubbish PG end of story.

Giannis let his team down no doubt but he wasn't the 6th best player in his team. My problem with Giannis was more with his decision making than the flaws in his game. He was also woeful from the free throw line. However that has nothing to do with Bledsoe who was pure rubbish!!!

He shot 20/68 for the series. This ninja shot 29% from the field FFS! How do you hope to win any series when your PG is dropping such rubbish poverty numbers

airmark:
Did Psg bring the money requested by Bayern? Only a foolish club wouldn't want to scam the Psg sheikhs.

Show me where they officially submitted a bid for him and it was rejected? The sheikhs later wised up and abandoned Bayern and their calamitous package.

I want to believe you can read. Shebi you were arguing that he didn't want to leave. After proving he indeed wanted to leave what are you still arguing?

They put up €40m for him and balked when Bayern insisted on €50m because of FFP wahala. This is what everyone not living under a rock knows so no need to waste my time. Google is your friend bruhhhhh

KarnThornheart:
Lol! Kemba? Kemba is illegible for a 200m plus Supermax. Unless the bucks want to ruin their roster that upgrade is not worth it. Middleton is up for a pay raise. Giannis is also up for a super max in a year. Kemba is not a viable option for them at all. Lowry played like a bum against the Cavs last year, this year he's in the finals. Bledsoe will come around.

What does it matter? In today's league the really good teams have 2-3 players on max deals. The trick is to pay it to the guys in their primes.

Obviously someone like Kemba will have to take a cut unless he wants to remain in the hell that is the Hornets right now.

Getting Bledsoe, Mirotic and Hill off their books will create money for Kemba. It's a hypothetical longshot but it is what it is

Stop comparing Kyle Lowry to Eric Bledsoe. Kyle Lowry averaged 18ppg last year and was let down by his mental midget teammate DeMar DeRozan unlike that bum Eric Bledsoe and his poverty numbers this series. He was the 6th best scorer on his own team. That's how useless he was

raumdeuter:
Boateng in the past few years has started promoting his fashion brand which Bayern FO didnt like and he wanted to move to a city where he can do that
Last season Boateng wanted to move to Paris which will be more favourable to his business and Bayern vetoed the move and didnt allow him to move

All season he was just throwing tantrums, this season he launched his lifestyle magazine, on the day of the Dortmund game he organized a party and told the team that win or lose party goes on, After the league and cup win Boateng disappeared and went for his own private party

Boateng wanted out Bayern didnt allow him, unlike Terry that the club wanted to chase and he went to the fans to instigate a protest to get a contract

I blame the board for not cashing out on a disgruntled asset. Everyone knew Boateng was up to extracurricular activities and wanted out and so you either recommit to him or maximize the value you can get out of him in the transfer market

My problem with the board was rejecting €40m last season. We could have gotten Pavard and not had to pay Boateng's €12m P/a. Now the incentive for Boateng to prove himself is lost as Löw has axed him and Hummels from the squad. PSG also have likely lost interest. If I'm Boateng walahi I no dey comot till 2021 when my contract expires. I will just enter Yankee and be knackin Rihanna,Meg Thee Stallion, Ravieloso, Bernice Burgos and all those other bad bitches

Everyone knows John Terryble Racist was a carry along that benefited from parapo defending. The same defensive pattern that made David Luiz look like Baresi

airmark:
This is not absolutely true. I remember before the world cup, the club stated that Boathand was surplus to requirements and up for sale. Alogolo reacted angrily by saying they never informed him. He didn't want to leave.

It's obvious they didn't want the useless defender, long time ago. I remember that more than 4yrs ago, club president threatened to send him packing disgracefully in the media.

https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2018/8/30/17800384/bayern-munich-psg-offer-40-million-jerome-boateng-transfer-report-bundesliga-niko-kovac-tuchel

https://m.calciomercato.com/en/news/bayern-munich-president-confirms-boateng-wants-psg-move-85926

You don't reject €40m on a player you're serious about offloading. Now let's see if they will get €20m on Boateng after foolishly rejecting PSG's money last season

Boateng wanted to leave last season. Don't come here and blow fallacy

chic2pimp:
A40 see your Boy Bledsoe with 8 points

All the basketball I don watch. I know a wasteman when I see one. If I'm the Bucks I'd call up Charlotte and try and get Kemba Walker. If I have to let Mirotic, Hill walk and trade Bledsoe to the Wizards or some club. Pay Brogdon, Pay Kemba and surround Giannis with shooters while he also works on his shooting. Because the Raptors exposed him badly

airmark:
Raumdeuter and a40, death knell.

When he wanted to leave last season to PSG on his own volition why did they hold on to him? It's the same Bayern board that slammed €50m on Boateng when PSG wanted to pay €40m so why are they lamenting about the problem they created for themselves. If I'm Boateng I'm not moving an inch. When I can play golf and be chopping awoof €12m per year partying with Jay Z and co

ipledge10:
I’m so mad right now, KAT didn’t make all nba team.

Why should KAT have made All-NBA team? Who would you have left out?

Bradley Beal is probably the only person that should have righteous anger about being left out

ZenHallewell:
And when the boston celtics were put together averaging

Allen 26 4 5

Pierce 25 6 4

Garnett 22 13 4 2

Who were they up against in the east Baby Lebron or the fa.ggot of orlando?

That's the friggin point!!!!

Nobody was fighting fair!! Now you understand

ZenHallewell:
One legged wade was most definitely not in his athletic prime. What was the expectation for amare melo and billups mr long tooth? They were swept by these old men you are making fun of. or more recently okc? since expectation is what translates to reality! In your words super teams built inorganically bomb all the time, they dont guarantee sh-t!

One-legged Wade outplayed LeNomad in an NBA Finals. Put some respeck on his name

Chauncey Billups was 34 when he joined the Knicks. Leeemaoo. Try another example

Nobody expected dominance from Melo and Amare alone. We saw how injuries wrecked Amare and he was cooked after that season

ZenHallewell:
The heat made the playoffs before lebron, guess who gentleman swept them? These "harmless" old men you keep yapping about.

Because Wade's second best player was Mario goddamn Chalmers

ZenHallewell:
If in your words a team with

Carter 25 6 5

Kidd 13 9 8

Jefferson 16 4 3

are underdogs against a lebron team with larry hughes as his second best player then those averages you wasted your time digging dont mean jack sh-t!

Jefferson not an all-star. Kidd was 34

ZenHallewell:
Mr long tooth, Kevin love was playing way below expectations, playing horribly. There were talks of trading him. I guess your tooth isnt that long after all.

Kevin Love was a matchup issue with Draymond Green. He played well the entire season so don't come here and rubbish his contributions. He made arguably the most important stop despite having an average series by his standards. If 16-10 with his usage is playing horribly then I wonder who is playing exceptionally

steady986:
You're just changing the argument to run away from the original topic. Even though Bosh and Wade were averaging those high numbers, they hadn't gone to the Eastern conference finals let alone the NBA finals in the last 4 years before LeBron joined them. Whereas KG and PP, even though they averaged those low numbers, they had gone to the NBA finals in 2 of the previous 4 years. If LeBron chose to join the Celtics then, that would have been considered a weak move. But no, he decided to join the team who needed help.

Why would LeNomad join an old Celtics team?As a 26 year old where is the sense in joining teammates 7+ years your senior? Number 1 they could not afford him. The Cap situation back then did not allow it.

Secondly. Bosh and Wade not getting to the Finals was the function of being in average to mediocre teams. KG, PP and Allen had gone to 0 NBA Finals before they teamed up. Yet we knew that getting there was a foregone conclusion the day they joined

Now for you to sit and tell me that three all-time greats would form a team and not have an unfairly enhanced chance of getting to an NBA Finals is being intellectually dishonest never mind 3 young players just reaching their primes.

Khanben:
Please apart from Spurs name one small market team that has won the NBA in the past 30years. The spurs only won because they are extraordinarily well run and lucked in on Tin Duncan.
Lebron was drafted by a team who for 7 years, the best players they could put with him was Mo Williams and an old Shaq.
Nobody blames KD for leaving OKC, the issue people have is of him going to GSW. IMO if not for his sensitivity this will not be a huge topic

There are numerous players that stuck with their team. It's not about big market or small market. Everyone cannot play for a big market and a big market does not guarantee anything. LeNomad went for the surest bet which was teaming up with not one but two all-stars in their prime.

Nobody in the league had done that before. Hakeem, Barkley and Clyde were old when they did theirs, I won't even talk about the Grandpa Lakers in 04, and then the Celtics Big three who were on the wrong side of 30. LeNomad on the other hand handpicked two of the best 5 players from arguably the best draft class since 84. Paired them on one team and people are trying to act like they were playing fair.

My only issue with KD is that he even gives a damn about anyone's opinion. He needs to grow a pair. He should have known people would be salty

ZenHallewell:
BTW Wheres A40 and the rest of the people declaring a fatwa on Bledsoe?

He scored a meager 16points. They still lost. Big whoopty whoop

ZenHallewell:
And if KD had done that then you can claim its the same thing as lebron. KD ran and joined the team he cant beat, thats like saying lebron joined the celtics.

You're justifying one sin and vilifying the other. I don't subscribe to that. They both took the shortcuts to success.

Three in their prime stars teamed up to beat up a bunch of old men.

ZenHallewell:
LOL Lebron gave 7 years of his career to cleveland with no signs of his owner giving him a good team. Not even a pippen to mentor like jordan had. Why should he stay? So he can end up ringless? Naah, leaving worked out for him, now hes the undisputed GOAT!!!

No one cares if he spent 100 years in Cleveland. Dirk and Hakeem labored for over a decade before winning a ring with terrible rosters. They didn't take the easy way out by running to form a super team. The GOAT ran into the juggernaut Celtics and Pistons took his lumps and faced them till he beat them.

That is what true GOATs do not paper goats that were anointed by Jimmy from Instagram and Mufu from Agbado Ijaiye.

This is why 20 years later 73% of the league recognize the true GOAT

ZenHallewell:
Okay, let say you're right, the celtics were a non factor in the east. Do you think any of their teams as they were constructed, the cavs, raptors or heat wouldve beaten the 2011 bulls? I told you if it werent the celtics it would have been another well run team. They took the guess work out of it!

The 2011 Bulls were led by Derrick Rose. LeNomad took two HOFers to face a team whose best player was 6ft

The Celtics were aging and the Cavs had the best record in the league in 2010. He could have stayed and faced the Celtics again, instead LeNomad pussied out the last two games of that series going 8/21 and 3/14 in the Final two games. Ran to Miami to get help then started flexing muscles. Leeemaoo

ZenHallewell:
LOOL! No he didnt, he played below standards but he still had 17 7 7 or something like that, Kobe won a ring with worse averages.

Kobe was not the best player on his team back then. He was 21

ZenHallewell:
Mike Miller, i agree but not Rashad. Besides, thats not what the debate was, it was over the word "legendary spot up shooters".

Stop being pedantic. Long story short the Heat had a ton of shooters

ZenHallewell:
Dont move the goal post, you said draft mates coming together had never before seen. So bloody what? I just pointed out that the celtics were just as potent when they were formed, so all that nonsense about it never been seen before is absolutely pointless to the issue at hand.

Did I say they were not potent? You would rather rush to type instead of paying attention. They averaged those numbers in their 30's, LeNomad did it in their 20's. The Heat had more time to expect more elite production the Celtics didn't

LeNomad gathered players that averaged this
Chris Bosh - 24-10-2
Dwyane Wade - 26-4-6

To fight 35 and 36 year olds that were averaging
Paul Pierce - 18-4-3
Kevin Garnett - 14-7
Ray Allen - 16-3

That is the crux of this present matter. Don't moonwalk to old arguments

ZenHallewell:
But you speak as if the heat committed a crime by winning just two, You speak these teams were supposed to just bull doze the whole league like the warriors are now! Even you spoke of the injury woes wade and garnett had, those three had two good years and that was it, injuries did them dirty. You cant convince mean that each of those celtics didnt have at least two more elite years seeing as they both came off one of their best seasons. This is what you've refused to get and now you just shot yourself in the foot. Bringing three stars doesnt automatically mean domination so thats by no way taking the easy way out. Thats building a team, we dont know what that team will be! The warriors were already the greatest regular season team without him.

They were in their athletic primes. Stop comparing their title window to that of the Celtics.

Everybody expected the Celtics and Heatles to steamroll the league. Some of us are very long in the tooth and actively followed basketball back then so don't come and revise history for us. The Celtics had just one major threat which was Kobe and the Lakers

If bringing 3 All-stars did not guarantee domination then the Celtics would not have gone from a 24-58 team to a 66-16 team in one season, neither would the Heat jump from not making the playoffs to 4 straight Finals.

Imagine someone telling me 27 year olds averaging these numbers would not dominate the league

Chris Bosh - 24-10-2
Dwyane Wade - 26-4-6
LeNomad James - 29-7-8

Sakamanje

ZenHallewell:
LOOL! Kevin love was playing like a bum all through the season. Culminated with the cavs benching him at crucial points in the finals. At least he came through with 'The Stop" though.

A 16-10 and 17-8 bum. If that's what it takes to be a bum I'd hate to know what you need to do to be an all-star

ZenHallewell:
AD and Kyrie and we bury the league in rubble.

I no just wan hear any excuses next season

ZenHallewell:
Did lebron run from the celtics? or did he run from the mavericks? Again did lebron have any player even close to pippen? The only person who ran from competition here is KD and thats why hes a b-tch.

Why would he run when you can simply ring up two players who averaged 50points the previous season and one of whom has a Championship belt round his waist?

Do you realize those two already nullify the Celtics Big three.

It took 3 years under Jordan for Pippen to be all-star caliber. Why didn't LeNomad run it back 4 times like the GOAT did? Why did he dip after the second year? He took the easy way out

ZenHallewell:
Garnett was 32, Pierce 31 and Allen 32, they at least had two elite years in them seeing as they all just came off the back of stellar seasons. Yet they ended up with one ring!

How many teams with their core players in the wrong side of 30 win multiple rings? Only the GOAT did it

ZenHallewell:
the celtics greatest player scalabrine left the boston in 2010. Apart from their starting 5 with 4 allstars BTW, They also had a stable of seasoned veterans. The heat barely survived and took lebron going super saiyan for them to win. That team was no joke?

Paul Pierce - 18-4-3
Kevin Garnett - 14-7
Ray Allen - 16-3

This was what the Celtics Big three were averaging before the Heatles were formed. They were dying

ZenHallewell:
Why do you think the heat lost when lebron choked in 2011? Cause if lebron doesnt perform that team isnt all its made out to be. Again the warriors just swept the ECF without KD.

They lost because LeNomad played worse than the second best player on the Mavs. If your supposedly best player plays poorly chances are you would lose. After all Wade choked in 2014. Did the Heat win?

ZenHallewell:
As a spot up shooter he averaged more points than both of them with better efficiency. Even Ray Allen said he felt Eddie House was a better shooter than him, obviously not true but thats how good he was. So yes, Eddie house.

How many rings did Eddie House even win with the Heat? Mike Miller and Rashad Lewis were better shooters than Eddie House.

ZenHallewell:
Allen averaged a career high 26 points the season before the signed with boston, paul pierce 25 and garnett 24 and 15. They were very much in their primes!

Good. I like where we are going with this.

Now when LeNomad and co linked up this was what the Celtics Big Three averaged

Paul Pierce - 18-4-3
Kevin Garnett - 14-7
Ray Allen - 16-3

Now compare with

Chris Bosh - 24-10-2
Dwyane Wade - 26-4-6
LeNomad James - 29-7-8

Add this all up then tell me if multiple titles for the Heatles weren't a given the minute that team was formed. Considering they were 26 not 31 when this team was formed

ZenHallewell:
Yeah and they ended up with one ring. Lebron carried a team to a finals and got swept, who did dan gilbert give him after that? If it wasnt the celtics it was another team with a decent FO, when it became obvious they werent going to put a decent team around him, why wont he bolt and form one that allows him to compete?

Yes because they were Old AF!!! Their numbers in 07 would have still been good but how many good years were left? You think prime KG, Pierce and Allen would not win more than one ring? Puhleeze

If Prime LeNomad and the Heatles could only win two rings then how much more the significantly older Celtics trio.

ZenHallewell:
Ohh and technically the cavs had one allstar in 2016 so... If you're talking all star caliber players, lebron has done that but thats besides the point. Again if he can beat the warriors with 73 wins, the unanimous mvp and 3 all stars why cant he beat the cavs?

I guess they deserve each other, bunch of spineless bitches the lot of them.

Kevin Love was 16-10 regular season. How he didn't make the all-star game is a laughable joke. He was 17-9 till the Warriors series anyway. You can't objectively argue Kevin Love was not an all-star caliber player in 2016

Lol channel your energy on recruiting AD and Kyrie. We don't want no excuses next season