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steady986:
Not true. The West had strong teams, even stronger than the East. Magic/KAJ with Lakers, Post Malone with Jazz, Kobe/Shaq with Lakers, Olajuwon with Rockets, Duncan with Spurs. Guy chill

I don't have time for too much argument.

Between the years the GOAT played (84-93 95-98)
Celtics - 1 title
Pistons - 2 titles
Bulls - 6 titles

The East won 9 titles out of a possible 13.

I don't even know why you're mentioning Duncan and Spurs and Kobe. How many years did they spend in the league and what did they achieve before MJ retired. Don't be dropping names for the sake of it

birdman:
This team could have gotten to the second round in the west and everyone knows it. The way they were dismantling Warriors before Lebrons injury is proof.

The big blunder was overshopping the young core in trade talks. Now the cry babies refuse to play because their feelings were hurt. Id trade them all this off season and get professionals, not kids who should really be in college eating ramen noodles

Lmaooooo. That team was not going to do Squadushhh. They were only 2.5 games ahead of the 9th seed before LeNomad's injury and started on a relatively light schedule, which explains why their run-in to the season is so brutal

As for the Warriors game. That was largely an aberration. These Warriors lost to worse teams than the Lakers

Who were the cry babies that refused to play? Is it Ingram who put together the best 5 game stretch of his career or who exactly are you talking about. LeNomad is a terrible leader. These kids were 7 games under .500 last year. The potential was there! A so-called King returning with 31 games still to play and just 2 games outside the playoffs should have galvanized the troops. That's what real leaders do.

The locker room don't respect him. That's why a second year ninja like Kyle Kuzma can shove LeNomad to go and cover his defensive assignment I've never seen anything like that all my years of watching basketball

This is the toxic environment Kevin Durant was talking about.

I hope they trade them off and mortgage their future for an ageing player who probably has 2 seasons left of elite basketball

steady986:
I don't understand your point. Was MJ not in the east as well?

In MJ's era the balance of power was largely in the East as shown by the number of dominant teams it had compared to the West. Since LeNomad's era the balance of power has shifted

steady986:
What's the point of all these our arguments sef? Are u people saying that LeBron is not as good as people think he is, or you're just say he's not as good as MJ? Which is it. Because I myself believe MJ is the greatest. So, let's clarify.

He's not as good as MJ. Never has been and never will

The consecutive Final runs highlight the weaknesses of the East much more than LeNomad's greatness which is what we have been repeating ad nauseum! so this narrative that LeNomad can carry any team must die

diadem10:
Are you saying Lemar could have displaced Griezman from his role? Lmao. Did you even realise that Griezman was horrible on the wing for Atletico and that was what birthed his transition into the SS role some years back?

That's the point. Deschamps, Simeone, Jardim all shunted Lemar from his role. 3 coaches from different nationalities all decided Lemar is not good enough for his preferred role. Does that not tell you he is mediocre at it? Or is he simply cursed?

Everyone that watched Griezmann from his Sociedad days knew he was not a true winger. Don't tell me what I know already Captain Obvious

diadem10:
That Lemar was deployed on the wing shows the trust his coach has in him to deliver better than others who could have played in his place. Even for a world-class touchline winger, a long ball midfielder is required to make him play better. That was why we had Carrick and Scholes in our midfield to give our winger the needed space through their visionary long passes which tends to split the opposition defences and release the wingers. Believe me, this would make it easier for every winger. More reason why Sane seems to do a lot better with David Silva behind him in the midfield.

I don't have time for this your Dothraki. What we have seen from Thomas Lemar is indefensible mediocrity for club and country for the past two seasons no matter who played ahead, behind or beside him

diadem10:
Talking of Sane, he was deployed many times on the right when he came into City newly but was quite horrible until Guardiola discovered his best role being a left touchline winger. I'm sure the Germany coach knows this but he can't seem to give up Muller/Reus/Draxler's left forward role to Sane, a left touchline winger. If I were him, I would go for a 352 setup with Sane as the left wingback, after all Germany don't even have a quality left back to begin with and Sane isn't a slouch when it comes to defending. As for Reus, he is even much more better as a SS. So everyone would get to play in their best position.

Müller and Draxler's continued inclusion in that German National team is one of the biggest problems. Löw must summon courage to drop both players, possibly Reus as well as he is always injured and move forward with a completely different footballing philosophy

diadem10:
That's by the way, Mbappe should go sort out his control first before he can lace Lemar boot.

I hope you maintain this same energy when Thomas Lemar is on loan at Brighton or sold to Changchun Yatai

diadem10:
Costa is popularly known and not a young player just plying his trade. Besides, there's nothing wrong with Costa. First, his team needs to give him the needed creativity which is more or less absent in that Atletico team or happened to be only centered around another goal scorer named Griezman.

Torres was also a popular player when he returned to Atletico. Problem is he was washed just like Costa and is busy accumulating yellows instead of goals.

Who is providing the creativity for Morata who has netted 3 goals since joining end of January. He should be on 5 goals but for VAR yet you are here releasing excuse after excuse. If the team is lacking creativity then that is also part of Lemar's brief which the stats clearly show he is failing woefully

diadem10:
Secondly, costa isn't your regular hold up play kind of striker that simeone seems to have envisaged as Griezman's partner. Let me remind you that Costa was the defacto SS for Atletico before he left for Chelsea, which means he's the type to need a holdup play kind of striker Infront of him/alongside him. All these have been Costa's main problem at Atletico. It's either he's deployed as the main striker without another baggage (another forward like himself, i.e Griezman) behind him or Costa should be deployed as a SS alongside a hold up play striker.

Costa the one man MOPOL and battering ram? Whether Costa started out as an SS is immaterial. By 2013/2014 season he became the target man. Don't come here and serve us cool zobo! Some of us don tey pass Schnapps for this football game.

For the past 4-5 seasons Costa has been playing without any help at CF for club and country for at least 75% of his games. Try another excuse.

Why do you think Simeone signed Morata? If Costa does not shape up Morata will be his permanent replacement so if you like continue speaking country grammar

diadem10:
France set up at the world cup is quite different from Atletico set up. France was a counter attacking team like Monaco, not a defensive team like Atletico. They didn't have defensive midfielder such as Rodrigo, Saul in the midfield like Atletico has been doing with these players in their midfield. Instead of what Atletico has in midfield, France had Pogba and even a Matuidi who was prompted to drift into the midfield from the wing whereas Koke keeps the width as directed by Atletico's coach. There's nothing similar between Atletico team and France team nor Atletico and Monaco team. Let that sink in.

The difference between a team like France and Atletico is merely speed merchants like Dembele, Lemar, Mbappe etc. Without those guys their personnel and M.O are essentially the same! The difference being Atleti lacking the personnel to transition from defense to attack quickly. Lemar is not a typical Simeone signing. He would rather buy LMs like Vitolo and co. Play a Koke who is more of a box to box mid on the wings than go out to buy an actual winger. Signing a guy like Lemar shows he wanted to try something different

Btw in what planet is Saul a DM? Looool.

diadem10:
Atletico team woudn't even score so many goals against big opposition teams unlike Monaco did against City or the way France did against Argentina and Croatia because Atletico is always cautious and compact unlike Monaco or the France team who flies out as soon as they have little possession. And what more? They have the creative player such as Pogba to give them the necessary boost. The only thing these team all have in common is their tendency to leave the possession play to the opposition.

The same Atletico that scored 3 at Stamford Bridge? 4 against same Chelsea in the Supercup. Is it not the same Atletico that pumped 4 past Madrid in the Supercup? Stop chatting Dothraki. If you lose guard Atletico will pump goals pass you if need be. Their paucity of goals is more a personnel issue than anything else. Put guys like Mbappe in that squad and goals will flow. Not skirt man like Lemar with his 1 goals and 1 assists

diadem10:
Btw, did you know Mbappe has been abject for the France team in the Nation league matches? Why did you think he's been so poor? Because majority of the opposition France have encountered after their world cup tends to give up possession to the France team and as such, the France team are forced to play a possession game which often hinders Mbappe's game. Thank God for Pogba in Mbappe's life, else he would be irrelevant today even as we're thanking God for Verratti, Di Maria and most importantly, the don, Neymar in his life at PSG.

The fraud!

Abject Mbappe was France's best forward in 2 of France's 4 UNL games. The common denominator however is that your MCM Thomas Lemar did not play for even 5 seconds in France's 360minutes of that competition

diadem10:
Jesus navas isn't playing for a defensive narrow Atletico team. Kapish?

He's playing in a team that has Banega who tends to whip in passes from the midfield to the wing in acre of space coupled with the open play of his team which gives him plenty of freedom, not a compact style of play.

Dude nobody cares if he's playing in Remo Stars. I am showing you the numbers of a touchline winger who is waaaaay past his prime to negate your nonsense argument.

A compact style of play is not a valid excuse for such historic lack of productivity! A winger who is not scoring, not assisting and not creating chances! Just occupying space

diadem10:
One fact you are forgetting is, Lemar is at his best as a SS. Or playing as a winger in an open team that gives him lot of freedom. That's why he's compared to Mbappe in the first place. That he was able to give his best when shunhorned into a touchline wing role is a testament to his talent. That's why I said some people talent tends to be their downfall.

He's a mediocre SS. That is why not two but 3 different managers have felt it necessary to move him out of his preferred position like you claim. Intelligent managers know players with limited ceilings and shunt them elsewhere to complete the squad. Your MCM is just a John O'Shea with French passport. Don't be surprised when Simeone turns him to a Left back and you have to come here to tell us about his defensive qualities

diadem10:
Some player can't even play out if their comfort zone, for example, Leroy Sane who's only at his best as a touchline winger can't even give "make a believe" performance as an inverted right winger for Germany national team because he's one dimensional player. Kudos to Lemar for not being a one dimensional player highlighted by the fact that he has been able to do well as a touchline winger despite not being his best role. I can bet he would be the one to eventually replace Griezman in that SS role if Griezman eventually leave. His performance for France confirmed it.

Löw's inability to get the best out of Sane is entirely on him. If you insist on not playing to a player's strengths tactically and positionally then you should bear some responsibility. It's not coincidental that Germany could not get out of a group with Mexico, Korea and Sweden

E say na kudos. Thomas Lemar is a runaway candidate for La Liga flop of the season with his 1 goal and 1 assist Sergio Busquets numbers.

I can bet you Lemar will never play a prominent role for the French national team. He's a mediocre player and his trajectory screams Chinese Super League in the next few years

diadem10:
That all said, let me repeat my assertion which is there is nothing creative about Griezman. As for Mbappe, he needs to go learn the basics first and stop falling on his ass

The numbers and every other creativity metric make a mockery of your statement. Try again

donlittle25:
A40 correct me if I am wrong o, but didn't Eric Gordon start of the season struggling? The guy is just finding his footing sef

I tire oh. Someone that has been shooting 39% from the field this season.

diadem10:
Lmao. Jackson Martinez was signed by his agent to Atletico. Same agent is funding Wolves team. Same agent made Falcao deal at Atletico. You need to get your fact.

The same agent paid €52m for Diego Costa abi?

diadem10:
Simeone knows that Lemar has done well so far with the style Atletico seems to employ. If we were to put Mbappe in a defensive team that had Griezman as the main man, he would be benched. This was a player that got benched last season by PSG coach after so much shite display by him despite playing in a world-class team of so many quality players spoon-feeding him at PSG. What would he have done if there was lesser space for him to operate in a defensive team such as Atletico.

Simeone knows he can't bench Lemar without looking stupid. After squandering €70m the best you can do is to hope your record signing play himself into form.

Hahahaha jokes on you. Deschamps France are a defensive team with Griezmann as the main man. Mbappe is the X-Factor and difference maker. Great players force coaches to alter their tactics to accommodate them not the other way round. No wonder since Mbappe entered France's picture Thomas Lemar's seat on the bench comes with customized seatbelt

You're even contradicting yourself. With your analysis of Mbappe he is likelier to shine at a club like Atletico than a club like Barcelona

diadem10:
Atletico's coach knows this which is highlighted by the fact that they always go for technician to man their frontline because of how narrow the team often operate. Technician that control the ball in tight space without having to fall flat on their face everytime like Mbappe. Heck, They once had the likes of Aguero, Torres, Griezman, Falcao in that team. Even Costa has a better touch than Mbappe when he was operating as SS for Atletico before his move to Chelsea. Shame his return coincided with Griezman who had already replaced him in his role.

Mbappe is full of shite. Wake me up when Mbappe can control a ball under pressure. Can he even do that under no pressure?

Lmaooo when you're done with this Dothraki. Come and remind me of the last time Thomas Lemar scored a goal or provided an assist. Faux technician putting up Sergio Busquets numbers. Shior

diadem10:
Lmao. Even if you plaster all the statistics in the world on your eyes, it doesn't negate the fact that there's nothing creative about Griezman. He's Atletico main man who touches the ball in the final third more than any other atletico's final third player and plays closer to the goal than anyone else except the front man. He's bound to feed on plenty of rebounds. That doesn't mean he's creative. Lemar doesn't see the ball as much nor play close to the goal yet he does his job of taking on defenders and putting in Crosses into the opposition boxes and doesn't fall on his ass like Mbappe in every crucial moment.

Wake me up when Mbappe isn't falling on his ass under no pressure at all.

I think your idea of creativity is arcane and needs updating. I will take statistics over the opinions of biased fanboys that cannot provide any credible alternative to counter my arguments.

When do you intend to prove that Griezmann merely feeds on rebounds. You have been typing endless lines of Dothraki, not one stat to counter my arguments

Griezmann creates more assists, more key passes. But he is not creative.

It's your poor man's Antonio Valencia with 1.1 key passes per game and 1.8 dribbles per game that's creative. Bahahahahaha!

Wake me up when Thomas Lemar scores or provides an assist in 2019

Even Jesus Navas a significantly older touchline winger like your mediocre MCM is putting up far better numbers. Stop hyping this unproductive skirt man where I dey

steady986:
Lebron would have done equally well with this Rockets team without CP3 and Capela. They have Eric Gordon who can go for 30 on a good day. Gerald Green, Trevor Ariza...come on. Forget what you hear of this Lakers team, they can't play sh*t. It needs total overhauling. Plus the coaching, let's not forget that Luke is barely the same age with most of the players. He's a baby when it comes to coaching, especially coaching a team filled with veterans who don't seem to want to take instructions from him. You can add to all these the instabilities the AD trade brought. There's just so many things wrong with this team. Let's wait 'til next season when we have a new coach, another all-star, a couple of shooters...then we can judge.

The LeBron that is not doing well with the Lakers despite having Ingram, Rondo, Kuzma will suddenly do well without CP3 and Capela? Are you kidding me right now?

Eric Gordon also missed 14 games btw. Which means there were games James Harden was missing all 3 (Capela, Gordon, CP3). Lmaooo Ariza has left the Rockets since last season!! Gerald Green? Don't make me lose appetite please

How old was Luke when he was leading Golden State to a 39-4 record? If you were a boss I'm sure you would not tolerate all these excuses you're serving for LeNomad

What stopped your LeNomad from embracing this team and leading them to the promise land? You guys swore he can lead any team to the playoffs. While we told you he was benefiting from a rubbish Eastern Conference where teams 4 games behind .500 are in playoff positions

Who are the all Stars for the Jazz and Clippers? The fact is LeNomad's terrible leadership completely wrecked a salvageable situation. The excuse last season was he needed more playmakers and players that could create offense on their own, they gave him playmakers and the excuse now is he needs more shooters! Same shooters he had in Cleveland. Sheesh!

diadem10:
Prove of Lemar creativity was the reason Atletico (who are actually penny pincher) signed him for 70 mill.

If you had watched Monaco, you would realise Lemar was the source of their creativity whereas Mbappe and Falcao were just goal scorers. There's a reason he was called to the France national team when he was just a young player who wasn't even known outside the ligue 1.

Atletico coach is also happy with Lemar. So keep your stat to your chest.

Lmaooo. A decision Atletico are probably regretting now. I doubt they would pay that much for a 3 goals 2 assists poor man's Antonio Valencia

Mbappe had 8 assists in their title winning season. Stop misinforming the public with this false narrative that Mbappe was just a scorer. Show some scruples and decorum

Simeone has no choice. Are you shittin me? How do you bench a player you bought for €70m in his first season without looking like a complete asshat

The same Simeone that paid €52m for a washed Diego Costa? Please don't make it sound like Atletico are some perfect transfer bargain hunters. They are prone to the odd goof! Or you have forgotten Jackson Martinez?

diadem10:
Such stats isn't pathetic for a touchline winger in a defensive team which is built around a non creative SS. That's the cold fact.

I could count how many times Mbappe fell flat on the floor under no pressure at all in yesterday match. Many times his first touch turned the ball over under no pressure. Is that your worldie?

I didn't even intend to go this route of comparing Lemar with Mbappe except for their similar roles at the world cup until you started spewing nonsense and I came to this conclusion which is, it's an insult to Lemar to even compare him to Mbappe cos Lemar doesn't have such average touch to begin with. You were the one who brought out Mbappe's can of worms, not me. Now you can feed on it.

You're not even ashamed that your MCM has not evolved his game beyond playing a borderline obsolete role. Even Antonio Valencia at a rubbish team like Wigan was putting up better stats.

The non creative SS is dropping 10 assists and dropping 2 key passes per game. While the creative Touchline winger is averaging less than 2 dribbles per game and providing 2 assists in 32 hours of football. Yeye dey really smell

It's an insult to compare Mbappe to a Lemar with 1 assist every 15 hours of football. If Lemar's exceptional touch cannot lead to goals or assists for his team then they might as well flog him to China.

Lol see who is talking about can of worms? Your MCM has not scored or assisted since last year. We are already in March. Afrodoc2 should prescribe albendazole for you before your intestines shut down

diadem10:
Griezman isn't creative. That's the gospel truth. Making a simple pass which luckily led to a goal isn't an act of creativity. Let that sink in.

Lmaooooo John Stockton couldn't assist you. Griezmann is not creative but dropping double figure assists the last 3 seasons. Spare me your nonsense

Show me proof of Lemar's creativity and stop inundating the thread with your blasphemy

Roland17:
I was not entirely shocked when I read that part because some of his facial features testify to that. Nigerians irrespective of nationality have a very strong spirit of resilience and he has his parents to thank for pursuing a better life for him and his siblings.

Who knows what would have become of him if his parents remained in Lagos or if he was the one born in Lagos and had to stay back a couple of years before moving to Greece.

Ohh him get Igbo mark for face?

He should be eternally grateful to his parents sha. I really believe the environment a child is born can make or break them depending on the gifts the Creator has bestowed upon them. Olajuwon was some dongo playing goaliemepon in Lagos Island till he relocated.

It's why I feel bad seeing guys here that were talking about starting basketball at 19 or even older.

diadem10:
He's a SS closer to the goal. He's bound to make some passes to his lead no 9. That's the gospel truth. Even C.Ronaldo had his moment with his simple passes although he's a fantastic crosser also. Abeg, watch football with your eyes.

Story for the gods. The important thing is correcting that nonsensical narrative that Griezmann provides no creativity. You're showing a clear lack of understanding of what that statement even means

diadem10:
We all saw the talent who couldn't even control ordinary ball yesterday. Never seen such an acclaimed talent who has such a poor bottom level. Wake me up when Lemar has such level of absolute shite.

While you're getting on that, go learn about the difference between a touchline winger and a forward. Can't waste my precious time having a discourse with someone who has a poor knowledge on football roles.

You're not even ashamed. These are the stats of someone you're claiming has talent. Mbappe's bottom level was still good enough to produce half of Lemar's assist numbers for the entire season

Touchline winger my a$$. Even if he was playing from the dressing room there is no excuse for producing such pathetic stats. You have already wasted your time defending an unproductive winger since last year. You might as well waste it some more! Chai you're not even ashamed! Do you know that since November that we began this argument Lemar has not scored or assisted

diadem10:
I won't even dabble with you on your nonsense about Griezman creativity. No one in his right sense would even argue that.

You're not armed with anything to disprove me anyway so you probably made a good choice

Lmaooooo. A player averaging 10 assists per season in all comps is not capable of being creative. Gospel according to diadem 10. Let me allow the rest of the thread laugh at your megedefegede!

steady986:
Harden didn't miss that many games like Lebron, plus the Rockets team is better than the Lakers, let's not even argue

The Rockets started badly. They missed Capela and CP3, 2 of their best 3 players for a combined 38 games. The bottom line is they started with a deficit and then lost two of their best 3 players at the same friggin time and still battled back. Whether Rockets are better is even irrelevant, the Lakers shouldn't be 10th seed 5 games behind .500

The Lakers lost LeNomad but he came back with 31 games to go! That's more than 30% of the season left and yet they are already out of playoffs contention with 17 games left!! This is inexcusable. I don't care if it's the Dodan Warriors

steady986:
Who says they're out of contention?

They are. There is even talk of rationing LeNomad's minutes

diadem10:
If football was about stat, Modric wouldn't be a balloon dor. Yeye dey smell.

CM's aren't really judged by stats. Nice try

Even at that Modric's mama knows her son wasn't Balon D'or worthy. Ronaldo got the leper treatment due to his r@pe kwanta.

diadem10:
No one is saying Lemar is world-class. In fact, none was even hyping him but to emphasize how unworthy Mbappe hype is because Lemar is the better technician.

Lemar is a fraud. He owes his career to the likes of Mbappe who helped him to his best season since he became a professional.

These are Lemar's stats without Mbappe

3 goals 8 assists
2 goals 1 assists

5 goals and 9 assists in two seasons of football. Those are the type of numbers Lemar puts up without Mbappe as a teammate. A fraud

diadem10:
If we were to go by how this discourse started. I was discussing on the similarity of Mbappe's role at the world cup and that of Lemar's role at Monaco although Lemar wasn't given the freedom to drift inside like Mbappe did at the world cup but he was the go to guy for every long ball played to the wing by Fabinho, same way Mbappe was the go to guy for every long ball played by Pogba to the wing. That was my discourse before you badged in to say I shouldn't compare Lemar to Mbappe as if Mbappe was a sensational talent like the teenage Messi, Ronaldo, Mardona et al. Mbappe is just an ordinary talent. Let that sink into your skull.

If Mbappe is an ordinary talent then Lemar is no talent.

And its barged in not badged in

diadem10:
Only someone who watches football through the lens of stat spew rubbish as yourself. Even the world cup stat would delude us with the idea of Griezman being a fantastic playmaker which he wasn't except for the few times he gave simple passes that led to goals. Wouldn't be surprised to see that it was Lemar who created most of the tough passes that led to Griezman putting in a simple pass for a goal.

Stat doesn't tell the whole story. Only eediots depend on stat solely.

Lmaooooo. Negro please! Just shush it

The least you can do is apologize for this megedefegede highlighted below after being enlightened

diadem10:
Lemar plays for a team that is centred around Griezman, a second striker who is all about scoring goals without offering any creativity.

I could go on and on.

Griezmann might not be Messi but to suggest he is not creative is a crime against football punditry.
You seem to not know when to draw the line with your laughably hipster Alté takes

"Simple passes that led to goals" I don't think you even read what you typed. I'm sure you are one of those that are moved by Shakushaku dancing when a simple pass can do the job.

Don't be surprised. Show us proof that Lemar is doing the dirty work for Griezmann. You gotta have something to back it up. I'm not here for your usual story. Show n prove

SIRcumalot:
Na you be fiction writer for here.
You no go hear any excuse because you don't want to.
Any other team lose their best player and the team falls into a slump.
You no need Sherlock to tell you why the team they fail.

Stop rolling back the transaction beyond the original error point. They lost their best player and went 6-11 but he came back with 31 games to play and a 2 game deficit! They are 3-10 since he came back. If they won even half of their games they would still be in contention

Stop these excuses! They are invalid and frankly nauseating. If he's the best like y'all claim, the Lakers should not already be out of playoff contention with 17 games left.

steady986:
You have to put into consideration the Ingram and Kuzma injuries.

Which team in the league has not dealt with injuries? James Harden kept the Rockets in playoff with a bunch of G-LEAGUE level players missing CP3, Capela and Gordon. I don't want to hear all these excuses

Hardetayour:
Watched KDs post game interview and he was answering one kind. One part of my wants him to stay, the other part says he should Go!!!!

These guys are just itching for the playoffs to start honestly. Won't read much meaning into it.

My only real worry for the Warriors is that defense, Draymond Green's defense has fallen off a cliff and teams are just torching Boogie as well. I knew Boogie wasn't elite defensively but he's pretty much a target now in the PnR game. So much so that Steve Kerr has to strongly consider benching him in critical stretches which is sad because that is kinda why they got him. Let's see how it unfolds

Roland17:
I encourage everyone to read this great piece about Giannis. I am happy he is recognizing and celebrating his original roots.

https://theundefeated.com/features/bucks-giannis-antetokounmpo-greek-freak-wants-to-go-back-to-his-nigerian-roots/

Looks like his mom is Igbo. Interesting

diadem10:
Lemar plays for a defensive Atletico team.

Lemar plays as a touchline winger whose job is to take on oposition defenders and whip in threatening crosses into the box, doesn't necessarily mean he would be awarded an assist each time his cross leads to a goal.

Even if he plays for Bolton that does not explain such a paltry return.

He is not leading the league in dribbles or chances created so how effective is he doing his job? These excuses are tiresome

diadem10:
Lemar plays for a team that is centred around Griezman, a second striker who is all about scoring goals without offering any creativity.

Griezmann 12 goals 7 assists 2.3 Key passes per game

Thomas Lemar 2 goals 1 assists. 1.1 Key passes per game

Griezmann does not offer any creativity - Diadem Chapter 1 v 10

diadem10:
Lemar has been given lot of playing time which shows the coach isn't dumb to have taken only stat serious rather than what he sees on the pitch.

Lool. Yeah you would just sit a player you broke your club's transfer record for

[quote author=diadem10 post=76418037]Costa has been having it much more worse than Lemar in that same defensive set up.

I could go on and on.

Costa is washed bruh. Even Morata that was falling under anointing at Chelsea is now looking like a quality striker at this same defensive Atletico you keep talking about. Try another excuse

diadem10:
Who are you talking about? Lemar or Neymar? Neymar has been playing mostly as a third midfielder for PSG.
Even while he was on the wing, he was used as a wide midfielder who drops inside to link up play with the forwards.

As for Lemar, he has been deployed mostly as a touchline winger so far for a defensive style Atletico team.

Mbappe on the other hand has been playing as a forward, whether as an inverted forward, SS or a striker.

I hyped Lemar because he has a better technique than Mbappe. He's also similar to Mbappe in style of play but was just unlucky to have been the one deployed as a touchline winger while Mbappe got to play as a second striker for Monaco. The last time he was deployed in the same role for France, he scored 2 good goals and was the best player on the pitch. Lemar was probably used as a winger because the coach realised that his technical skills was superior to that of Mbappe. I think in life, some people's talent tends to be their downfall. If he had been the one deployed as a second striker while Monaco had found a talented winger in his place on the wing, Lemar would be the one heralded today. He showed that for France when he was given his first complete debut as a SS for France until Mbappe rise.

I no get time for all these excuses and tales by moonlight. Just @ me when Thomas Lemar scores or provides another assist. Even if it's in pre-season.

Can't be wasting my time debating about a winger who is averaging 1 assist every 15 hours of football. When Casemiro has doubled your goal tally as a winger then the wing position is probably not your calling. Simeone needs to move that unproductive ninja to Fullback.

nihilistjnr:
Rashford scored or assisted 2 goals today.

2.2 God no vex


but Rashford's 2 included the winning goal. Scambappe left with nothing but the A40 trophy

Don't worry about Mbappe. He has more CL goals and World Cup goals than Rashford. Nothing wey you fit use compare their two aside their skin color

diadem10:
Mbappe the fraud. I stopped getting the hype the day I saw his highlight performance for Monaco against one shite team in a friendly match like that. He was the worst on the pitch, couldn't even control a ball in that match. Since then I realize he can only play in a team of talented players with whom he can feed off cos the likes of Lemar, Falcao, Silva were all out in that particular match due to one reason or the other but that shouldn't stop him from not being able to control a common ball. He was completely horrible. The fraud.

If Mbappe is a fraud then what do we call this chap below? The worst signing in La Liga history

diadem10:
A40, this was the discourse we had on Mbappe here:

https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-2018/5666#69477719

I still maintained my position on the fact that he can't be the focal point of a possession based football team except he has a player such as Neymar who takes off pressure off him while he has all the space for himself. Mbappe's strength is only suited for counter attacking football style. A fraud.

You can't be slandering a player that contributed two goals out of the 3 times they scored in this knockout tie while the player you are hyping has not scored 3 goals all season.

nihilistjnr:
Let him lead PSG to win Rashford na

Mbappe scored or assisted two of the 3 goals they scored. I'm sure his other teammates collected salary unlike Rashford who was carried by Lukaku