raumdeuter: Shebi you believe, They should have no problem giving you lotto numbers. Imagine how our lives go set $125M for us to share
Elijah was challenged and he brought down fire on a heap of dead animals Moses was challenged and he performed those miracles even brought down manna from heaven
Lool ise l'oogun ise.
That aside sef, this one that you're going on and on about lotto numbers, what is the incentive for any Babalawo to give you lotto numbers? What do you bring to the table? I have told you before that even juju get him own protocol wey gats dey observed
As per the Elijah case well that was in the Old Testament. And besides that you can't compare their walk with God to what is obtainable today. Elijah didn't die FFS. Dude was carried via chariots of fire. You can't really compare their spiritual levels to what is obtainable now
nihilistjnr: Jesus turned water to champagne make boys flex....but to give us lotto ticket na issue.
Jesus use bread and fish take step down thousands of boys, but to get odds, wahala
Jesus dey stroll ontop sea of Galilee just because...but to predict tonight's score, no way.
Adeboye said a couple of days ago sat him and God dey gist and sip Lipton together
What are you saying sef? E dey willy nilly pass so?
Lol I apologize for wrong verbiage. What I should have said is he didn't do it out of a dare or a need to prove a point. E.g: When the devil tempted him after 40 days of fasting to turn stone to bread
So this your idea of challenging cannot work. Especially since you don't even believe for starters
James 2:14-26 English Standard Version (ESV) Faith Without Works Is Dead What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.
Exactly. God and Jesus don't use their powers Willy nilly. I don't know how they expect the ones with lesser powers to be doing so
SIRcumalot: houston had the luxuries of game in front of them and the possible mvp of this season. lebron no injure this lakers are making the playoffs the rest na story.
Lol this guy you be story man. Jimi Solanke dey learn work where you dey. Houston had luxuries of games in front of them but the Lakers with so-called best player in the league and 31 games ahead did not have games in front of them?
I don't want to hear about any injuries, they were 2 game behind the Clippers! With 31 games left! Less than 2 weeks later these Clippers traded their #1 scorer. The Spurs also went 1-7 opening the window to be caught. Yet we have them 5.5 games behind the 8th seed rn!
That we have already written the Lakers off with a full 18 games to go is a crying disgrace
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raumdeuter: In all of these you havent told us what juju can do and the evidence of the works of juju that goes beyond folktales and hearsay
I resemble Dibia to you? The person wey know pass me don tell me for Bible say juju dey. I have no use for juju or its works but I know not to question it's existence
If science can't offer a satisfactory explanation for any so-called supernatural or mysterious phenomena, we give it time and go with the most logical and reasonable explanation currently available.
With time, most things we see as supernatural or extraordinary now will become normal occurrences. Thunder, lightning, malaria, schizophrenia, rainfall, drought, and so many others were once regarded as supernatural or spiritual phenomena by people in the past, as handiwork of one god or the other, inflicting punishment on people for perceived wrongs they committed.
Today, we know better.
Time will make all these things clear.
I don't entirely agree, I will point out that there are biblical principles that overlap with science and there are certain things we see in the Bible that science endorses and vice versa
Science will however never have all the answers and it is by design. There would be problems and phenomena science would never be able to solve or explain because it is out of its jurisdiction
The problem I think people have is usually their failure to realize that even the Spiritual does not pervade the Physical. So if you don't do what you're supposed to do in the physical then there is no way you can expect any spiritual input. Both worlds have their boundaries and limitations and rarely ever overlap the other
A student that is going for night vigil when his mates are reading will not pass exams, an athlete that is praying when his mates are training will not win any competition. A farmer that isn't using the right soil nutrients or nurturing his farmland the right way won't receive bountiful harvest.
raumdeuter: So under what terms do juju and jazz work?
Is their term that it must not be verifiable? And only works from remote villages where people dont have caneras to record?
By answer the question on football, you mean I said football being a result based and verifiable by all? Is that the limitation of juju? Juju doesnt work where results are verifiable
That is not for me and you to decide or estimate.
Do you believe the universe was created in 7 days and not 3 billion years like scientists opine?
My question is who does the verifying? Is it you? Because the one that created all has said it exists. And we should not be ignorant of it
Remember that even Jesus was selective when it came to showing himself or performing miracles so this should tell you that juju definitely has limitations as it is under control of a higher order
SIRcumalot: You need a huge difference between your win and loss to cushion against the inevitable loss of form,bad road trip or whatever. The Lakers in his absence blew that cushion. The present team that he came back to isn't the same team mentally, that was fighting for 4th place. The worst that would've happened is that they don't maintain the 4th place and slip to 6th or 7th. But they don't make the playoff! No way.
Cushion ko mattress ni. What was Houston's cushion when they jumped from 14th to 5th in the standings? Even without Chris Paul
The Lakers in his absence were 6-11. Since his return they are 3-9. Even if we omit their record sans LeBron as it stands they are still just a .500 team and would not make the playoffs!!
Do you realize if they went even 6-6 since he got back they would be only 2 games behind the 8th seed. We are tired of these excuses!!!
airmark: One of my friends in school, now in South Korea, sent me a short video of their Witches and wizards week, last year. I was shocked to the marrow.
Hahahaha if Jazz had hierarchy those Far East people would be the highest. Even Ogbomosho babalawo dey learn work for where those Taekwondo and Shaolin monks dey
raumdeuter: So when will the real juju, medium, psychics, Sorcerers necromancy stand up and face verifiable result based tests like facing AR15, winning 100meters transporting to another country without planes or ships
Why is there no juju for football? Could it be because Football is a result based thing that you can see with your korokoro eyes not guess work?
There is a man on America TV Poppof that sells Miracle water and I see people coming on TV to claim it helped them get a job, healed them and I know its fake. Its a lie
That is the issue. You're trying to dictate the terms by which these things work.
Who gave you that authority? The God we follow and wey dey is a God of due process. So if he rarely breaks protocol with all his power then how much more those with lesser powers
As for the football thing. You have pretty much answered your own question.
If we have fake Drs like Dr Abalaka why won't there be fake Pastors.
Your Bible is not the authority here. A book replete with errors in elementary science and thousands of contradictions, like Qur'an, cannot be relied upon to provide veracious pieces of evidence or backing in an intellectual discussion.
You use science as a sort of yardstick or arbiter when discussing this kind of issues with educated people, not ancient books written by cavemen and shepherds.
If science can't clarify any issue, we should be humble enough to accept our ignorance of such issue and be open-minded to welcome new explanations or positions, backed by verifiable proof.
So what is the authority? Don't be nitpicking Bible like beans with pedantry. Do you have an alternative book that presents these events. Or are you completely discounting their occurrences
Science does not have the answer to so many things and even science at times has the humility to accept this fact. Besides I don't see how science is armed with the tools in this case to disprove the absence of supernatural events
Btw in this instance what is your new explanation or position on the said issue. This world is not limited to our carnal understanding of how it works. This you need to accept
SIRcumalot: He was playing,they had a winning record. He stopped playing, they had a losing record. They could still end up with a winning record although unwise.
So ? Is it unheard of for a team to have a decent record against .500 teams. Like they didn't beat any decent teams and only whaled on bottom feeders.
Your argument would have been legit if they had a winning or even .500 record since he returned. They were 26-25 before he returned. Since he got back they have gone from 1 game over .500 to 4 games below .500
Let me reiterate, they had 31 games left to play with a 26-25 record, it's not like he came back without enough time for the Lakers to get at least an 8th seed
They have played 12 games and lost 9 since he got back but I'm supposed to believe they would make playoffs if he didn't get injured? Taaaa!
All I know is they would not have won enough games vs the .500 teams to get into the playoffs.
raumdeuter: From the time of Adam 419 has also existed and will not stop
I was not alive during the time of Moses but the ones I see in my time are all fake. Regardless of the names they call it. whether its necromancy, withcraft, juju, ogbanje, medium voodoo they are all frauds
A40 its easy tell them to predict the game for next weekend abi shey this juju no dey see football ni?
Same way we have false pastors and prophets as well. Didn't #ResurrectionChallenge trend the other day?
Don't we have Pastors that give fake predictions over and over again. Does that make Christianity fake. There are fake Mediums and psychics doesn't mean we don't have real ones. Even the Bible said there would be proliferation of fakes in these times so this shouldn't suprise you
gensteejay: Can you explain how the disbelief in and disregard of superstitious beliefs by a person implies they must subscribe to the atheistic philosophy?
Don't you think you're being close-minded here by assuming a lack of belief in the potency of voodoo shows a lack of belief in God's existence or power?
Does the idea of an irreligious believer in God sound strange or unreasonable to you?
I don't believe you should be selective of what you believe as regards what the Bible says about this subject matter.
The same Bible said we should not be ignorant of the devices of the enemy, it also said we wrestle not against flesh, there is so much we can't see and won't see in this flesh and the Bible, it's pretty explicit at all turns about the existence of evil powers. The belief in their potency is a completely different argument! If you're a Christian their potency is not really your business as you're supposed to be covered by something superior.
I don't subscribe to the idea that it is possible to believe in God and walk in complete ignorance of the existence of the other side and their powers
SIRcumalot: The Lakers make the playoff with a healthy LeBron no way they go (6-12) or whatever the records was in his absence. It is the west.The gaps between the teams no they large anyhow before.
No. What is your evidence of that? They are 4-9 since he returned plus have you seen their last bunch of games? Even if they went 12-6 (unlikely) in LeNomad's absence, their last 18 games comprise of 15 teams over .500!!
airmark: Ignorance in any facet of life, makes one sound foolish.
I'm a christian and i believe no juju will work on me, but i won't be stupid to say it doesn't exist and foolishly go on a challenge.
Necromancy, voodoo, sorcery, juju, name it, have been existing before you and i were born, whether you like it or not. It's even documented in several verses in the holy book, so i don't know what you are talking about.
Exactly! Unless you're an atheist I don't get how you can say Jazz does not exist. How can it not? From the times of Moses sorcery and juju don dey and it will never not exist so long as this world is still here
Lol Nigerians always will be doing the one God didn't send them. Faith without works is dead (the works being you using your meds) I don't know when people would realize this. You still have to do your part
Killrhymz: Patrick Beverly walked past the media assembled outside the #Lakers locker room and said “what are you all doing over here? The locker room is that way (pointing towards #LAClippers locker room) they’re ain’t nothing in there.
Hahahaha Beverley is my guy. I watched his post game video and werey was just shouting Hell Yeah and marching to the locker room
SIRcumalot: Fringe players gets better. Star players,not so much.
he Lakers would've made the playoffs if he wasn't injured though,there is no disputing that.
Make him just go they flex around Los Angeles and not play anymore,no need for stress.
You people should stop repeating this myth and urban legend. They were only 2.5 games ahead of the 9th placed team largely benefiting from a light schedule
Roland17: Abeg na which playoff mode Lebron say him activate?
Lmaooo this reminds me of Infinity Wars where Bruce Banner wan morph to Hulk but Hulk no gree comot because of the beating Thanos give am. Western Conference don beat playoff mode comot him body
That boy no sharp. Instead of wifing or impregnating her he was forming bragging rights. Since the incident the small career he was managing has gone to shyte while she's a 9 figure woman.
Even a talentless oaf like Scott is eating good now never mind you that was chopping the head of the snake
raumdeuter: I think the National team needs to phase out that generation and even put Kroos on probation
This is 2019 anyone born earlier than 1990 is 29, what footballing future can a 30yr old have again to a team that needs rebuild
I think phasing every one out at once would be a criminal mistake but this is a good start
I for one cannot in good faith argue with the three guys being excluded. Maybe this is the wake up call they need but I also hope Löw is not ignoring the need for a complete change in the style of play. This poor man tiki taka he has been trying to play don cast
It could be argued that even Löw himself needs to be phased out of the job but that's argument for another day