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https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/11/24/7274911/nba-conference-record-standings-imbalance

Old article but highlights the point. The East is shyte. LeBald does not sniff even 4 Finals in the West

Ersan:
Lol! Thats different, everyone knows jordan was great at steals and in some cases blocks but he is not physically capable of handling who lebron can handle.

Nonsense. You people need to understand defense goes beyond size. There is no player Bron guarded that the G.O.A.T couldn't, the G.O.A.T knew the fundamentals. Bron is simply athletic and good at helping

Ersan:
Yeah right....

How many bigs can you count in that video? Make no mistake the G.O.A.T could do it all! Even the triple doubles. He just didn't have to

Ersan:
Which game was this?

2014 ECF

Ersan:
Nope, that was the nail on his coffin...

Shame on LeBald for getting called out and sonned by a 34 year old in the NBA Finals.

Ersan:
Their record fell they year he won. They werent as dominant or effective as they used to be. As a team reliant on physical play they werent the same. Like you said, they never recovered.

And I'm sitting here wondering how any of that is the G.O.A.T's fault. They got to 3 straight Finals so they were a great team. They weren't old so you can't even use their age as an excuse

Ersan:
Exactly, and he never was able to do anything against them, why hold lebron losing to great teams against him?

He eventually did. That's what counts

Ersan:
The GOAT in his prime shifted the balance of power to his conference. Celtics, Pistons were multiple title winning teams in contention in the East. Tell us what has been LeBald's competition coming out of the East?
Because you said this, the balance of power was never in the wests favor to begin with.

Maintained the status quo. Either way what is bleeding obvious is the competition was tougher in the East so your first round argument falls flat on its a$s

Ersan:
Lol! if lebron wasnt there these are the teams that would make finals appearances.

And woulda promptly gotten bounced by any Western team

Ersan:
The bulls had the best record in the East. The miami heat were talented but were still finding their stride.

Good. Golden State with the inclusion of K.D, West, Pachulia were still finding their stride. Still won 4-1

Ersan:
No one in his right mind would call that team a cake walk, regardless of their age.

Are you joking? Not 1 but 3 core players over 34. Lmaoo

Ersan:
Thats you. His aesthetics are none of your business.

What is your business with The G.O.A.T's gambling? Is he betting with your money?

Ersan:
Well the lakers have a lot of cards in their hands, its his hometown, its a new challenger. Its better than losing to Lebron.

The Lakers? A challenger? Lmao! That roster is at least 2 years from being a playoff team if they are lucky. You are in La La land if you think Paul George's addition automatically makes them a factor in the Wild Wild West. L.A >>> Naptown. Get over yourself bro everything ain't about LeBald

Chale. You mean you guys really paid €40m for Andre Gomes? Unfassbar

Gnabry with a goal for the U-21's. Hmmm

afrodoc2:
Honestly that Renato looks more and more jambody everyday. And likely to have a weight problem if not careful. Tolisso has more potential than him and of course if Thiago stays fit he will be a boss for years to come.

P.S S.O.G wins again. Give the man his dues A40

Vidal is also a jambody. Na baby fat. E go lose am. I fat pass that one when I was his age

I hope you saw the beautiful assist as well


I no get beef with S.O.G and I'm happy he beat that racist mofo Kovalev but did you see those blatant low blows? I think the ref ended the fight too quickly as well. Bruh Kovalev would be pissing blood for a week

Ersan:
Yuup and he failed miserably until they all wilted.

Your argument was that Jeffrey broke the west dominance which is not true because they weren't dominating in the first place.

Till they wilted? Isiah is only 2 years older than the G.O.A.T, Joe Dumars is his age mate. They were destroyed and never recovered

With the Celtics the G.O.A.T was a baby facing a team knee deep in their prime. Bird is 7 years older than the G.O.A.T came into the league 6 years before him

I told you the balance of power was in the East in the G.O.A.T's era btw so how did you come up with the breaking the West dominance spiel? I don't get it

Ersan:
Dont make fun of IT, hes got heart. Celtics beat the warriors and were the number 1 seed, Dont forget the age of millsap, then the age of the celtics, even PG/Hibbert and PG/Stephenson were supposed to be a threat, plus the year of the bulls and MVP Derrick Rose. Lebron beat each and every one of them to the finals.

Don't compare the Bad Boy Pistons and the 80's Celtics who made a combined 8 NBA Finals to the jabronis LeBald is competing with now. Stephenson, Hibbert? Lmao are they still in the league?

Lol Derrick Rose and Luol Deng vs Wade x Bosh x LeBald? Later you would call the G.O.A.T a flat track bully.

Ersan:
Cake walks. mostly with 1 superstar or two at most at any given time.

Exactly. Same way beating Brandon Jennings, Bulls without D.Rose a 36 year old Garnett, 35 year old Paul Pierce is a cakewalk

Ersan:
Head band to cover what exactly, he had as many functioning hair follicles as sir charles has rings

I was telling someone that one day someone will say lebron cant be GOAT cause of his hairline, he said im exaggerating.... Thank you for winning me an argument, i am going to throw this in his face

Come on man. Your boi insecure af. Who goes through that trouble just to hide a receding hairline? Once my hair gets to that point I'm scraping it off.

Ersan:
And hes running home to avoid the king or maybe he'll join the king. Either way we both know lebron is part of why hes considering LA.

What's the point avoiding him when a bigger monster awaits in the bay! Come on if you had to choose between Naptown and sunny L.A where would you pick?

Ersan:
Individually ibaka was the better defender but chandler helped out the knicks as a whole.

I'm showing you how inconsistent these awards can be. Voting is done by the media

Ersan:
Blocking and guarding are two different things. I'd love to see footage of jeffrey on the dream though. Lebron doesnt even defend like that anymore, but point is on a good day he can lock down anyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esc0Ak9Jb90

That is the G.O.A.T doing work on ball D and off the ball. Can you count how many bigs? The G.O.A.T was only 6'6

Lockdown anybody? Negro pls he couldn't lockdown Jason Terry

Ersan:
If he can lock down gasol, he can lock down david west.

Only that he couldn't. Spo had to take Bron off West after Game 1 just to salvage the series. After West shot 100% on him

Ersan:
The dunk happened after this. Lebron ended his career with that dunk

He was 36. His career already ended

Ersan:
The balance was never in the wests favor

Between 1981-1990 the east won more championships than the west, he didnt shift anything. The west was never his problem, it was the detroit bad boys and the celtics giving him constant wedgies. Thankfully for him when age caught up with them and they dismantled, it also coincided with the fall of the showtime dynasty. The flat track bully ran riot.

You are making my argument for me. The G.O.A.T played in a conference with two multiple Champions. It means he contended with two any given year. What is LeBald's competition? Raptors, Bulls, Celtics with a 5'9 nigga as their best player? ROTFLOL

Aside those champs we also had tough teams like the Knicks, Magic, Cavs and Pacers in the East back then

Ersan:
Lol! NO! Dont reach!

Ironic how a jordan fan is making fun of lebrons baldness.

The G.O.A.T never wore deadass headbands to hide his hairline. He embraced his baldness at an early age unlike your insecure a$s LeBald who stretched the hair, used dye and fought a losing battle. Just one more reason why he can't be G.O.A.T.

Ersan:
Why do you think paul george wanted to go to the lakers to give you a more recent example? He spoke out about how its depressing losing to the same person over and over again. Superstars hate the east, even KD could have joined his hometown team the wizards and competed but he knew he had to face lebron, so he took the competition out of it. Lol!

Young man Paul George is from L.A since we are using your logic

Ersan:
Cause they are both very good defenders and deserve it. What's your point? That they're not?

Good not great. Chandler did not even make All-defense team

Ersan:
Thats because he doesnt mostly defend the post. Doesnt mean he cant when he wants to. I mean he was able to guard gasol at the post goddammit! For those saying he can't guard 1-5. Think about that. His versatility in defence is unquestionable.

Fam I would show you footage of the GOAT guarding Vlade Divac, Olajuwon guarding and blocking Patrick Ewing and Shaq. MJ was known to guard bigs for spurts yet you don't see anybody claiming the GOAT guarded from 1-5.

I remember the 14 ECF Fam this nigga couldn't even guard David West

Ersan:
This jason terry?

Naa this Jason Terry. All up in LeBald's grill



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyFp219Nj4Y

Ersan:
The east has more titles than the west in total. Quality varies at different points. A lot of the wests success relies on the Lakers also being in the west.

Any team with LeBron in it is already favorites for the finals. Apart from GSW and spurs, I wonder which team could possibly beat LeBron in a 7 game series know the west. If he were in the west, which ever team beat him is a lock-in for the championship.

It doesn't matter which conference he plays in.

Besides. He's part of the reason why players are running from the east now.

People speak of finals against. Never first round against...

I don't care for who has more titles in total. That is beyond the scope of the debate. A lot of the East's success is also down to the Celtics and the bazillion rings they won before Color TVs


The GOAT in his prime shifted the balance of power to his conference. Celtics, Pistons were multiple title winning teams in contention in the East. Tell us what has been LeBald's competition coming out of the East?


I can see LeBald struggling with a healthy Clippers team in a series. What the Finals clearly show for one is that he doesn't make 7 straight finals out West.


Name the players who ran out East cos of LeBald, nobody counts how many second rounds, quarter finals, finals Brazil has been to! All we know is Brazil have won 5 World Cups

Ersan:
First round. They got swept


Besides, doesnt matter. Lebron doesnt lose in first rounds, hes no michael jordan.

What about the rest of the east, whats your excuse?

Son #2 is not a winner and #3 nobody remembers. Nobody cared in 06 that Dirk got to the Finals with Desagana Diop and Devin Harris


The East is sweet! From M.J's retirement till 2007 the West was 7-2 in NBA Finals.


Do you think Lebron out West would make the playoffs with Smush Parker, Brian Cook and Kwame Brown in his starting V? Negro pls

Lmaoo Lebron fanboys would not tell you that the Cavs beat a Wizards team without Gilbert Arenas (best scoring PG in the league at the time) and Caron Butler on the way to the Finals in 07.

Renato had an assist at the Euro U-21's today. I hope he has a good tournament so that should he return he would either get more minutes or go on loan to a CL or Europa League team. There is something in that boy. I just hope the most is made of it, I can imagine a Renato-Tolisso-Thiago midfield. 2 years from now. No true DM but the tactical flexibility and energy would be too mad


Asensio. How can we steal that boy please?

pamcode:
lol none went on to be class but at least they have 2 or 3 that are good players though the Germans were way better, there are like 6 that are world class or nearly there.

When Walcott, James Milner and Joe Hart are the best players from that generation you should know say water don pass garri

Prophetic

Ersan:
He'll still guard them then, just not with ease?

Why would you use these finals to judge? Dudes 32 going on 33 soon. On a good day Dude was the best wing defender in the league in his prime. Was once second in DPOY voting and you're doubting his defensive abilities? Did this man screw your girlfriend?

If you want to argue about things like where his legacy stands fine. But give him credit where its due.

All these Lebron stans sef. I'd bet good money I started watching Lebron before you did. Lebron was never the best wing defender in the league. It don't matter how many times you repeat this lie, it can never be true. Dude Jason Terry called him out during the NBA Finals, Jason Terry


Tyson Chandler and Marcus Camby have been DPOY before so I don't take that award too seriously


He is more of a flashy, highlight reel defender. Don't get me wrong he isn't a liability but when I think great post defenders I don't think Lebron. Even on the perimeter he is much better on help defense than 1 on 1

Ersan:
Lol i know. Credit to lebron, he admitted that and said draymonds being draymond. He didnt say anything malicious about him or GSW at all!


People have been telling him to embrace his hairline, now that he did it its because of GSW or cause of MJ lol! Draymond and you lot aren't even serious.


But like you said....Good banter

Forget it. There's always some background story with your man. Son been bald for a minute. His barber deserves a Nobel prize for the dye he using. Must be Bigen


Had the Cavs won we both know that hair woulda survived

www.squawka.com/news/germany-and-englands-euro-2009-under-21-final-sides-where-are-they-now/342578#z34ejFoFHP6qE3v9.97


8 years on. And look at the English bunch. Jesus Wept

Ersan:
"No, no," James says. "In 2003, the Lakers combined Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Shaq and Kobe. And in ’96, when Jordan was retired, the Rockets joined Charles Barkley, Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler all on the same team.

“But I don’t look at it as … I definitely didn’t start the superteam, if that’s what he’s trying to say. But I just feel like that it’s great that on the day you’re celebrating your championship, my likeness and my name is in your head. I love that.”

He may have lost on the court but he keeps slaying these bums off the court. Draymond is Lebrons b-tch!

They are boys. Don't be fooled by the banter


Don't let this also distract us from the fact that Golden State made LeBald finally embrace his baldness

Ersan:

Lmao he said that? Is he using? I'd list 10 niggas he can't guard in the post with ease. Hell he is not even an elite defender. Making weakside steals and blocks is not defense. Did you see what K.D and Klay Thompson played these Finals? That's defense

raumdeuter:
Where is Lebron taking his talent again? LA or back to South Beach

Lebron is smart I give him that. He go use this year survey wetin dey on ground. That title wey e win last year no go make am too desperate. His legacy is somewhat secure

Funlord2:
Vi na tomorrow waka! I wan keep am grimy tonight...there are some zangas wey a40 been post for one other thread wey I for like see as dem dey hot....

On the flipside V.I no go bad this night. Afropolitan Vibe dey tonight for Muri Okunola. Fine girls, live music, food and shayo. Gate na just 1k

That would be a superb combo. From what I can see he is definitely looking like someone with more passing range than Vidal

I no know why this person no add Kyrie, Love, J.R

raumdeuter:
An article about Tolisso earlier in the year

http://statsbomb.com/2017/01/identifying-ligue-1s-next-big-breakout-talents-1-tolisso/

What I like about this kid is he doesn't muck about the ball. He is always looking for the pass. I saw somewhere that only Di Maria created more chances than him last season

I think the wingers would enjoy him a lot. Our build up play should be much quicker since he isn't like a Thiago or Renato that would want to dribble.


His shooting is another weapon we can use since Vidal is starting to suck at it these days

www.rollingstone.com/sports/features/kobe-bryant-goodbye-to-the-nbas-all-time-asshole-20160413


www.interbasket.net/news/16558/2014/12/why-do-people-hate-kobe-bryant-thats-why/

Ask yourself after Dwight left why nobody wanted to come play with the Lakers? From fans oh to players oh. Everybody hated the Mamba

Ersan:
A40

Draymond to Pierce: "Chasing that farewell tour. They don't love you like that...you thought you was Kobe!"

People love mamba. Believe.

Just out of curiosity i decided to see others opinion on this. Lebron is at the top of literally every most hated NBA players list.

Loved when he was on the verge of retirement


Blacks make up how many percentage of Americans again? Come on man no black man wanted him to go out like Tyson. Especially when the broad was white. I'm telling you the Kobe hate was deeper than basketball. A black athlete alleged to take advantage of a white woman? Forget it! And then the Shaq rift. Its like you don't know how much people love Shaq. He didn't just ball he was an entertainer. No athlete has ever dealt with what Kobe went through in that span. 2003-2006

Lmaooo bruhhh. Golden State made this guy finally embrace his baldness

Ibime:
Mayweather vs McGregor is just a money making venture for both of them. Nothing consign that one with boxing.

I even saw one of McGregors sparring videos. Dude cannot even move his waist to bop his head.

Lol that fight is an insult to our intelligence. Mayweather and McGregor are about to pull off perhaps the biggest single day heist in the history of mankind. Baba nla scam


Btw I been bump into your Maestro song as I dey transfer my library. Chale you dey bust that year oo. Lol

Let them just drop 45 and we call it a day. We got him for 30 so that would be a tidy profit

Manutd19:
The first thing I think the cavs need is to find a comfortable playing style. Golden state is not far ahead of the cavs in personnel but in the way they play. That series could have easily bn a 7 games series based on how the players from each team performed. I will say it again, Durant and Curry didn't outplay LeBron and Kyrie and offensively, Klay and Draymond were average. Warriors were superior because they play a style that the players are all comfortable with and gives them an extra edge just like what made barca invisible especially in the pep era.
Cavs and warriors are similar in terms of personnel.

Exactly. I like this. I don't buy that Cleveland had no shot narrative for even 10kobo. They are more like Barca vs Madrid, Barca would destroy you if you don't bring your A-game. That the series ended in 5 was an anticlimax for me. A sweep woulda been a disgrace

Lol repaint? Its art nau. That's the concept