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jackbauersballs: Yeah but even at the Allianz there was/is a 'Core' team of Alaba, Robben,Ribery,Muller,Bastian,Mandzucic,etc

This season, we have no 'core' team... MaZaCar contending with Shirley,KDB,Moses

Lampard,Ramires, Mikel, van Ginkel and Essien...

Whilst squad depth is vital, surely most these dudes are too talented to be satisfied with being just 'squad players'

I really hope it doesnt have an adverse effect

Well Lampard and Essien are on their last legs for one while Van Ginkel,Schurrle,KDB are yet unproven quantities. in the EPL I'm sure Mou knows his core or at least has an idea about it plus he is working with most of these guys for the first time. Lol and I thought it was only Pep that had problems! You guys are quite stacked in the middle

AjanleKoko: He won the Golden Ball in Euro 2012, remember?
Messi even came second, despite spending his summer chilling in Buenos Aires. No Euros last year, and he'd have won it.
These awards are based on perception of journalists who vote. Not collated stats like the Castrol Index.

Without scoring a single goal! So I'm banking on common sense to prevail and these guys realizing its not always just about scoring

jackbauersballs: Yeah that worries me....

The only players guaranteed security of starts and gametime are Ashley and Cech..

From a fantasy point of view that is a disaster...

From a concerned fan's point of view, how can Mou challenge strongly on all fronts if he has to constantly rotate players? Isn't that detrimental to team chemistry?

Rotation is necessary unless your players go just kpeme for field! WC Qualifiers, injuries and suspensions are also going to force your hands at some point so having that next man up mentality is a must! That's what worked at the Allianz last season

jackbauersballs: Lads,

Does any of you lot think Ivanovic is going to play both games in Gameweek 1?

I'm struggling with my fantasy team this year

He could actually thanks to his versatility

AjanleKoko: Messi is gonna win it.
Primarily because of the reason you stated: stats. Ribery had better start scoring like 50 goals per season if he wants to have any hope of winning this.

It would be a huge disgrace if Messi wins the award TBH! There's already an award for the top scorers and its known as the Golden Shoe! If Iniesta could get the award last season then it would be a massive injustice if Ribery doesn't get awarded the honors this year

Guys like Mario Jardel,Roy Makaay,Kevin Phillips,Forlan,Luca Toni also scored the most goals in Europe in their pomp I don't see anyone of them with Balon D'or's in their resume

Johnpaul88: As for your Ribery, he's there because Bayern does not have a better player. I don't like him as a player. I prefer Robben and he should have been there ahead of him. Is this not a case of the one-eyed man being the king in the land of the blind?

There are a lot of Bayern players that were super not just Robben! You are entitled to your preference sha personally I feel Phillip Lahm should have been on the shortlist too

Johnpaul88: Ribery, in ma sight, is just like any other good player like Ibrahimovic, who can have good day some times and play really well but this other day, oh gush!
He'll get the award cos Bayern does not have any other better player. Afterall, did they not win treble?

Ibrahimovic has struggled in Europe in the big games abeg no dey compare am to Ribery

Well you have answered the question yourself! Bayern is the best team in Europe Ribery is the best player in Bayern. Ki lo tu ku?

Johnpaul88: When last did Ronaldo win anything? 2008! That's like ages! Yet only a few knew because he'll always finish runners up. Poor him. It's been Messi show ever since! But Messi ain't bothered with this shit! We are looking at the bigger picture!

No one cares about Ronaldo bruh! Ribery deserves the award for being arguably the MVP on the best team in Europe! He would never score more goals than a Ronaldo or Messi because Bayern's offense is more balanced! Unfortunately stats compilers like Ronaldo and Messi who are their teams first and sometimes only option are always going to be at an advantage I hope UEFA do rectify this anomaly at least they can manage Golden Ball

dayokanu: Ribery, Messi and Ronaldo shortlisted for UEFA best player

I hope UEFA do the right thing and just give Ribery the damn award! Its about time people start to look beyond the stat-hogs that Ronaldo and Messi have become

Roland17: @A-40

Rumors of an already divided team because of Pep's playing style and formation, names like Lahm and Shweini are tops on the disgruntled list.

Loool rumors indeed! Journalists have kids to feed too you know? Pep is not that dumb to feud with two of the most important members of his team

Lordave: Guardiola fückèd up o, I was expecting him to have Gustavo in his line up, but dude ended up not playing atall.
Boateng is greatly endowed..looks like Shweini picked up a light injury, any news about him?

Not much news on that front really but he could most likely be rested for Friday tho it doesn't seem to serious either! Pep would probably give his love child a run-out

Kroos didn't play too well today! Gustavo is probably still battling with fitness issues I want to believe Pep still has him in his plans as he is very useful to us

Good thing for me is that Pep reverted to 4-2-3-1 hopefully he sticks with it for starters

Full-Time BSV 0- 5 Bayern

Hat-trick for Thomas Muller and a doppelpack for Robben

Robben dey really vex dis upcoming season and to think ninjas said he would be the first to leave

Starting XI DFB Pokal

Neuer - Dante, van Buyten, Rafinha, Alaba - Robben, Shaqiri, Müller, Schweinsteiger, Kroos - Mandzukic

proudlysports: Nawao...Gervinho has arrived in Rome and is already training with Roma...yet Arsenal.com is still waiting to announce it.. Maybe the webmasters are underpaid...I won't be surprised

Hahahaha that's below the belt! Seriously you guys are running a circus out there! Look at how quickly Roma rounded up Gervinho's transfer

dayokanu: Then you have to ask yourself when 19yr old Gotze signed his contract was he Dortmunds best player?

Lool the guy is a joke! This peasant thinks you can just scratch off contracts and insert and remove release clauses willy-nilly. Illiteracy is a disease

Gotze is back in full training! Hopefully he should be back in action in a couple of weeks

BSV Schwarz Weiss Rehden this evening an easy win on the cards but stranger things have happened

@Davidbanky
Abeg no mind the ret@rd he is as smart as plankton

dademola: i can now see poor deductive reasoning and slow assimilation rate are ur deficiencies dt nid urgent attention!! When i was talking about dortmund putting up resistance, did i nid to tell u dt dia 1st line of action shud hav been to remove d release clause frm his contract??

Hahahahaha you are the biggest idi0t known to man! Centuries from now people would remember you as a poster boy for everything dumb and ignorant

After your first batch of gaffes you should have done the honorable thing and just shut that sewage hole in your face but you just had to keep exposing your foolishness for all of mankind

How do you remove the release clause from a contract that was already signed,sealed and delivered? This is why I blame the people that introduced you to the internet before providing you basic education

dademola: Did i rili nid to spell it out dt ofcourse, u cant put up resistance with a release clause present?? Ur foolishness is way beyond redemption, bro!! I leave ur case to dayo!! Cheers sir

Shut up! Oniro oshi! You didn't know that before I exposed your ignorance

El Guapo: A-40 I deemed it best not to reply u on United and Co weakening smaller teams by luring their star players away, but the more U keep amplifying ur Bizzare notion, the more I get perplexed at ur level of reasoning.

Abeg comot for here you are talking noise! Mr Villa were a threat after Ashley Young was sold! When you get your facts right you can come back here and debate or at least correct the fallacy you so confidently spewed

El Guapo: Like I've rightly said, Smaller teams lose the grip on the league cos of their Philosophy to Club management citing Blackburn and Wigan as examples. It has got nothing to do with selling their star player.

Yes selling their star players strengthen the club and not weaken them ba? Even with the money made from the player transfers how many people want to go to Blackburn or Wigan? This is why they are the worst hit when the few stars they have get plucked

El Guapo: Spurs are Considered the fifth bettle in England, that literally make them a Smaller team, u'd then have to ask Urself, 'Why would they keep up with the threats each year having once In a lifetime sold a star like Dimitar?' Mr Levy's management answers It for U.

Are you comparing a 5th place team that have finished in the Champions League positions twice in recent times and their ability to bounce back after losing certain players to Blackburn,Wigan,Fulham and the other mid/bottom clubs? How can someone yarn such megedefegede with confidence like this

El Guapo: Everton compete in all fronts each Season, a club that've once paraded Arteta in their mix - They never Jittered over a relegation threat after selling the Spaniard to Arsenal.

There you go again comparing Everton to the bottom feeders! You even phucked up by bringing up Arteta who had missed significant time over the last two seasons (at least 8 months combined) and was hardly their most influential player anymore! Do your research and stop name dropping for the phuck of it

El Guapo: Most of this 'Intelligent' small teams use their resources well. They strengthen the team in the best of ways with the little fund they've got.

Some can and some can't but to claim selling their best players does not push them closer to the trap-door is pure tosh
As most of them don't have enough quality within the squad to help them adjust on the fly

El Guapo: Spurs would soon get 85m for a player that got scratched up from the lower division, they'd strengthen the team and remain afloat in the league, thats what a small team with a management that runs In decorum does often.

You really shouldn't have replied! Why would you compare high flying teams like Tottenham that can attract top grade players and coaches to an extent to perennial relegation scrappers like Wigan? Why are Dortmund not struggling after losing Gotze? Arsenal keep losing players but still manage to maintain top 4 status

Now had Villa lost a Benteke for example what woulda been their odds of staying up? Can you now see why weakening smaller teams is even worse

El Guapo: Liverpool thought the
same when selling Nando to Us. Their very problems started after a management shift.

What is this nonsense managerial shift you keep harping on? Last time I checked Benitez was sacked! Abi shouldn't under-performing coaches get the boot?

El Guapo: United's main motive of having Young and Valencia in their mix was to remain competitive having sold Ronaldo to Madrid - That couldnt have been to weaken Villa and Wigan.

Am also sure u think Swansea would get relegated If Michu ever makes a switch to United![/font][/color]

Remain competitive and weaken other smaller teams in the league! Are you telling me they couldn't go to Spain,Portugal,Holland or Germany to buy players? If buying a Valencia and Young from Villa and Wigan is not weakening the teams then why do hypocrites claim that Bayern is weakening the Bundesliga?

And who is to say Swansea can't relegate if they sell Michu? Do you know that for sure?

dademola: dis thing is simple logic now, isnt it?? U're talking of buyout clause. If na by buy out clause, y wnt u find d likes of iniesta and ronaldo in clubs like anzhi and monaco?? R u telling me such clubs cant afford these playas??

I'm sure at your birth someone sold your brain for a pot of potash! Are you such a blatherin idi0t that you don't even know what statements you made in the past

dademola: See as bayern jez buy goetze like say na dia birthright.. No resistance, nothing.

This was your initial statement you unapologetic f00l! Where is the question tag? Ewu!

You obviously don't know what a release clause is that is why you expected Dortmund to resist!

dademola: If u cant decipher simple question tags, Gt a copy of brighter grammer and study page 64 hard!!!! Lewandoski walking for free?? To join who?? No be bayern go gain in d long run?? Do dey nid to ginger for him, wen dey knw he'd join dem for free nxt season?? Is foolishness dis stubborn a spirit??nawa oo.

Question tags? Brighter grammar? Lool negro please practice what you preach

How can a halfwit like you be talking about grammar when you can barely type coherently?

No be Bayern go gain? And who says Lewandowski can't change his mind and re-sign for Dortmund as the season goes on! Didn't you claim Dortmund didn't put up resistance when their players where courted? If that is the case common sense dictates they woulda sold him this summer you farm tool

dademola: And do i need to remind u dt, bar free transfers(i dnt even expect any reasonable play to do so anyways) , ts unethical to announce transfers afta d transfer window has been shut, especially at d bizness end of a season, wen such announcements can clearly distabilize teams, especially d ones competing for honors??isnt this common sense?? I'm sick and tired of ur ewe-like ways of reasoning jare.

STFU! Transfer announcements can be made at any time you daft coon! Is Gotze the first player that would have his transfer announced before the season ends? You must be a 1st rate simp if you think Dortmund didn't know about Bayern sealing the deal for Gotze before it got into the media

dademola: ur foolishness has finally hit dizzying heights,sir!! try consider dos of us wey dey acrophobic nau!! . so frm ur deluded way of reasoning, dnt u fink clubs like anzi, monaco and psg shud hav d xavis, iniestas and ronaldos on dia payrolls?? or r u telling me these clubs cant afford these playas??

What a douche! I don't blame you but I blame the rangers that took you out of the Serengeti and gave you internet instead of education

Your phoolishness is epic! Your initial claim was that Dortmund sold us Gotze without any resistance then I explained to you how this was possible thanks to a release clause. Dortmund would not sell us a virus on a good day, they even refused to sell Lewandowski even though they know he could walk of for free next season! Does that look like a club that lacks resistance to you?

If Anzhi meets Barca's release clause for Xavi or Iniesta that simply means Barca cannot stop Xavi or Iniesta from leaving now apply this basic explanation to Dortmund and Gotze or ask someone to help you out

dademola: u're a living testimony to proof dt humans can actually live witout brains!!

The whole world has paused and are collectively cringing and laughing at your idi0cy! Mere looking at your penmanship its obvious your brain is moribund and filled with horseshit

dademola: bayern/bvb announced d goetze transfer on d eve of a make-or break UCL tie for bvb, and u r soo dim-witted not to see anyfn wrong with it?? hw can u, anyways, since ur club cldnt hav had anyfn to lose!! do i need to remind u of d reasons why a transfer window was created, u twerp??

Who cares about Dortmund's feelings? Are we romantically involved? Was any rule broken? If not then STFU

And FYI transfer announcements can be made at anytime! Its only the actual movements and change of clubs that can be done during the window! I wouldn't put it past an ignoramus like you to be oblivious of that

dademola: and yes,i still reiterate dt goetze wnt be booed, and even if a small section of d fans do so, it wnt last longer dan nxt season!! toress?? dnt u knw dt toress wld continue to be booed at goodison park even in d next 5yrs,same way tevz wld be booed if hecomes to oldtrafford??

Gotze won't be booed? Yet his appreciation ceremony was canceled,his jersey burnt and has been called every unprintable name under the sun by Dortmund fans and neutrals alike! Why don't you wait till next season comes before you make moronic assumptions?

So being booed is what makes a rivalry isn't that what you are asserting? or it instead highlights the idi0cy of fans? If he doesn't get booed beyond next season then it actually means Dortmund fans are far more intelligent than their counterparts at OT and Goodison Park

dademola: bros, ur foolishness is grade A-1, and not A-40, so u might wanna consider a change of alias here!! . stop being a retardedly pig headed ignoramus,sir!!...and to think u clocked 36 a few mnths back! shame!!

You are a waste of O2! You make Dejo Tumfulu look like Issac Newton and Albert Einstein with your pathetic failed attempt at humor

SailorXY: I thought Schwein is 30? How can we put in bid for 30 year old man I no believe jor

Hehehehe if y'all can cough out £175million then he is all yours

dademola: i had doubts as regarding ur foolishnes b4, bt with ur recent posts, ts now evident dt even if ur IQ is boosted by a power of 10, it will still be negative!! So, according to ur billy goat way of reasoning, per adventure, if swansea can match messi's buy-out clause 2day,and maybe even triple his current wages,he must inevitably join swansea niyen abi??

You are a dunce! An effing disgrace! Someone that can't even construct sentences properly is talking about IQ? Talk about warped priorities

If Swansea match Messi's buy-out clause Barcelona cannot halt the transfer or stand in its way! Abi which kin !mbecile be this wey no fit understand basic english?
10 years ago would you believe guys like Aguero,Silva,Yaya Toure etc would move to Man City while at their peak

You must be off your rockers, maybe a little schitz! You said BVB surrendered meekly to their rivals and I'm telling you they were powerless because his release clause was matched! Whether Gotze agrees to personal terms or not the point is once release clauses are met the matter is out of a club's hands! A fact I have been drumming into your thick skull for hours now

dademola: I was butressing d issue of rivalry with d case of toress being booed wen chelsea play at goodison park, u're talking about measuring rivalry with level of booing!! Choi!! Woteva is making u dis logically r.etarded is really doing a good job of it,

You are a phool who can't even stick with his original arguments! Grow a pair! You claimed the Bundesliga rivalry culture isn't strong cos you didn't think Gotze would get booed at Dortmund but a Torres would still be booed at Everton whoever he played for so what are you implying Akpasusu?

dademola: i swear!! D period d goetze transfer was announced sef, was it during d transfer window, u fo.ol?? A day to d madrid game faa!! Where in d world is dt done, except ofcourse in topsy turvey land??(odesliga)

What a simple minded coon I've forgotten its only during transfer window that a transfers can be announced. Hehehe if I called you a ret@rd I would be insulting ret@rds

dademola: Stop being a clueless/moronic wanksta by refering to d tv money ish, cos dayo dt i even mentioned it to, isnt making a mincemeal of it d way u're doing. Ts more like u're grasping at straws, sir!!

Ode after being called out for your chicanery your only cop out is that you were joking! You are a walking joke yourself! Anuofia

Lol Wenger been think say Drogba still dey China sha! Say he know e for no invite Galatasaray

dademola: mr "release clause", stop mkn reference to d tv money ish. If read my earlier post on it, i quickly discountenanced it and sed i was joking. R u normally dis daf.t, or is it dt u're making concerted efforts 2day??

What would you say before? Broda ode! Why wouldn't you disclaim it after your stupidity was exposed for the world to see! You could open a circus so you can at least get paid for being such a dumbass

dademola: Ur level of ignorance is pityfully astronomical!! So, frm ur centipede logical reasoning, all transfer deals dt failed were as a result of d buyer not meeting d player's release clause,or maybe u'd say "inability to agree on personal terms" isnt it?? Choi!! Ur dumber dan u look dat 1st time i saw u at ojuelegba sha!!

You are a farm tool! Shyte-bricks must reside in your brain hence your fecal thought process. You claimed we bought Gotze without Dortmund putting up any resistance I said Dortmund would have easily resisted had we not met his release clause! From the way you post and type sef its not hard to tell that you are mentally handicapped

Didn't you stake your life on Bayern getting 80% of TV money in Germany? That alone tells us you are ret@rded

dademola: Isnt it smehw to announce such a transfer at dt time?? Ts jez like madrid announcing d sale of ronaldo to barca some days b4 playing dt semi final, wen dey even knw ts a possibility dt dey kld even meet barca in d final. Wnt it be ackward for d playa himself??

Sentiments! No one put a gun on Dortmund's head to insert a release clause in Gotze's contract

dademola: Hw can anybody in his right senses discountenance d importance of booing, like u jez did?? Wich club in its right senses will even do such a thing?? Hav u taking ur meds dis afternoon??

You are an epic mor0n! If booing was so important away teams would never win a match. You claim booing of players determine the strength of a rivalry and I'm telling you its an idi0tic metric

Anybody looking at my posts and yours can easily tell who needs meds

Lordave: hahahaha! Typical Juvenile..
You should be very gratefull to A-40, he's doing you some good..
I think I should invite some more Epl fans to feel the magnitude and good impact of A-40's lecture.

I'm truly at a loss as to how person go dey carry ignorance around like say na currency! He came here saying Bayern make 80% of TV rights money in the Bundesliga even swearing on his life! Now he doesn't even know what a release clause means

No wonder dayokanu claims most EPL fans know nothing about football its hard to disagree at this point

dademola: u're d one being ignorant here. Ts like u jez heard d phrase "release clause", and ts very unfortunate u're using it off point/outta context. Wen one starts mentioning "release clause" in virtually impossible transfers like messi playing for real madrid, casilas tending goal for barca etc, ts obvious devine intervention frm above is needed for such a person!!

If you knew what a release clause is you would not be here exposing your ignorance in HD for the world to see! You make it sound like Gotze was happily gift-wrapped to Bayern. The only reason we were able get him was due to the clause in his contract! Once that is met a club is powerless I repeat powerless to block such a transfer! If you can't understand that simple concept then you need to do something about your IQ looks like it could use an upgrade

dademola: D goetze transfer was even announced jez b4 a very important champions league match faa( bvb no even reason say e go distabilize d team, no matter hw small)!! If trully he was booed, why did bvb take dt risk of selling him den, wen dey knew der was d possibility of him playing against bayern in d final??

Take the risk of selling him? Are you high? They had no say in the matter the minute we met his release clause! Sheesh are you a brickwall incapable of absorbing knowledge in any form?

dademola: Assuming he was fit for d final, wot wld hav happened?? D fans wld hav booed him, or maybe klopp wld hav benched him "so as to protect him"?? Lololol. And u say bundesliga aint worse dan a circus show?? We r talking about being booed by ur rivals, u're talking about arsenal/napoli? Smh. We r talking about 1st buying frm 2nd without any regard for transfer ethics, u're talking about chelsea and liverpool and ofcourse ur favorite phrase "release clause" .nawa for u oo

As at May 25 Gotze was still a Dortmund player! We all saw his reaction to Gundogan's penalty and anyone with even a morsel of common sense knew who his allegiance was to at the time.

Only foolish fans would boo their own player in a Champions league final! All forms of booing is a sign of lack of intelligence so when you say the amount of boos you hear on the stands is a measure of rivalry it shows your ability to reason or the lack of it! Hence my Napoli example

1st buying from 2nd is no different from 1st buying from 4th as no one knows where either team would finish in the next season! It takes a hypocritical mind to say one is worse than the other

Lordave: una get time dey reply this guy o..
As for you oga Dame you just let the whole world wonder when you'll quit wallowing in your utter ignorance!
You are talking about derbies and you are talking Manchester It's only few years ago that Manchester derby started being fierce. Before 2010 The River derby in Germany ie Dortmund vs Schalke04 was more interesting.
I know you don't know that Bayern Dortmund is called De Klassiker. There isn't even any need for Dayo and A.40 to keep replying you cuz your logic is just as terrible as your foreign run Epl.

I detest ignorance so I only tried my best to enlighten the ninja but it seems his case is not redeemable. Someone wey no even know wetin Release Clause mean! Lool I think its best I leave him to wallow in his ignorance

dademola: enof of dis release clause gibberish joor!! I dnt blame u anyways, cos d phrase "fierce rivals" is virtually non existent in ur sto.opid/boring league! Figo's transfer to madrid frm barca was "HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL". Why was it so?? Falcao's chances of joining real madrid were very remote! Why was it so?? Cos real madrid cldnt afford to pay abi??tevez's move frm utd to city(despite d fact dt twas a 3rd party deal) was CONTROVERSIAL!! Why? Do i need to remind u of d ashley cole's transfer saga? Do i nid to remind u of d fact dt if chelsea play everton at goodison park, toress will be a target for d boo boiz der?? I cld go on and on, cant i?? I'm sure goetze wld even be given a rousing applause by bvb fans wen u guys play dem away!! Shey na league be dt?? I doubt if ts even an offence to "tap up" playas in dt mediocre league of urs! Very boring and un-appealing league. Spanish league; el classico and madrid derby. EPL; manchester derby, london derbies, mersyside derby!! Seria A; milan derby! Bundesliga nko?? Nothing!! Ur crappy league is as one dimensional as my antonio valencia!! Now wen u start mentioning real madrid, messi and buy-out clause in d same sentence, isnt dt clowning?? Fernando toress?? Wot were chelsea's and liverpool's positions on d log prior to d move? Do i nid to remind u dt football world(bar wots happening in dt clueless bundesliga) is quite different frm wot u do on ur football manager, or ur pro-evolution soccer master league transfer window??

EPL fan wey no know wetin release clause mean. Thank you for disgracing EPL fans worldwide

If you can open your mouth to claim Gotze's transfer to Bayern did not generate controversy and irate reactions from Dortmund fans (burned his jerseys,they cancelled his appreciation ceremony and they even made a diss song for him) and even neutrals the world over then you clearly don't know your football. You brought up instances of Figo and Tevez but at the end of the day did they or did they not leave?

Madrid never signified any interest in Falcao! If they did and met his release clause he would leave! If Madrid meet Messi's release clause Messi would leave! Are you so basic that you don't even know what a damn release clause means?

You even talk about being booed by ignorant fans as a metric of controversy! Arsenal fans booed Higuain yesterday a player that never even played for them! I'm sure that's controversial too. Smh

Liverpool and Chelsea usually compete for top 4 honors or is it mere coincidence that Liverpool can't even make the top 6 these days since selling Torres? I think not

El Guapo: I dont see u making a Valid Logical point here fella.

Utd couldn't have possibly weakened a team by acquiring the service of their star player.

Aston Villa were still a threat after Young left, they only hitted the rock after a shift in the managerial position.

You are the one not making any point with your schoolboy analysis!

Don't you think a player like Ashley Young (while he was decent) woulda made it easier for any incoming manager to settle? What threat is this ninja talking about sef! Didn't they finish 16th? And there was no mid season coaching change so stop blowing fallacy! Tell that one to your gateman and not an OG like me

I repeat weakening smaller clubs is worse cause those clubs take longer to recover!

El Guapo: How many games would Jones get at Ewood park to be recognised as a Jigsaw in Blackburn's Setup? His sale was far from a one that'd put a team in turmoil - Samba, Olson, Warnock, Pederson, Nzonzi etc were the Ninjas to reckon on. The team's backslides ensued when some India Venkys conglomerate who identified themselves as Owners couldnt keep up with the club's toppling debts, things got haywire.

He did enough to be sold for almost 20 mil before his 20th birthday! Where are Olson,Warnock,Pedersen and Nzonzi now? Were they missing when Blackburn went relegated!

El Guapo: Wigan were always bound to visit the dungeons. They never had a plan on card to stay afloat, even when Antonio was still there. He was the Showman at Lactics but not the team, they still had good legs In Bramble, Cattlemore etc when he left.

Bramble,Cattermole good legs Hahahahaha stop already

El Guapo: Arsenal would go 8 Seasons without a Laurel, RVP presence there couldnt save the spell. His acquisition did help Utd win the title though but that doesnt say a thing about weakening a Gunners team that've been weakened ages by some Metaphysical forces.

Shebi you are God that knows Arsenal would never win a trophy with RVP in it? Buying a club's top scorer and skipper is not weakening?

So why is everyone accusing us of weakening Dortmund even after winning a treble without Gotze or Lewandowski

El Guapo: Most of these small clubs Inflicted themselves with the plagues that visited them, not by selling their star players but having a management that was a Joke.[/font][/color]

So are you for or against my point that Bayern are weakening their league as much as Man U or Chelsea are weakening the EPL or are you adopting a hypocritical stance?

El Guapo: [color=#0066ff]For all Spewed balderbash, I owe tis decorum ran team One come 30th...

We're the Sugar daddy ran fellas? Eyinimofe Oluwa [/color]

Calm down E no far again! Just 4 weeks

dademola: see ehn... D summary is dt d epl is a betta league as compared to d bundesliga, cos; it is betta funded, it has more viewers, it has a higher coefficient in UEFA's ranking, english clubs are seeded more dan d bundesliga clubs in d UCL, and again, EPL champions wnt jez stroll into d domain of d runner up, and start courting der players like say na dia birthright. U and dayokanu dey feel fly, based on say i no get backup for here abi?? No worries na.

EPL is an overrated league! The quality of football is weak and as we can see now all the top talents in world football are turning their backs on yall. TV money and Foreign Ownership na una only saving grace and very soon that one sef would not be enough

Courting their players? We met their release clause bro! If Madrid meet Messi's release clause they are obliged to sell! Look up what release clause means and stop trolling! Chelsea did the same with Torres.

Who wan back you up before?

dademola: d oda clubs aint complaining cos by bayern allowing dem to win d bundesliga atimes, dey( d oda clubs) still feel derz hope niyen.

Bayern allow other teams win the Bundesliga? Hahahahaha I knew you where trolling but I only wanted to give you the benefit of doubt

dademola: See as bayern jez buy goetze like say na dia birthright.. No resistance, nothing.

You don't even know what a release clause is! Smh!

dademola: Weda d oda teams like it or not, dt yeye rule favor bayern die!! D rule was made so as to perpetually ensure dt bayern wld continue to be d biggest club in germany till d forceable future! FFP my left yans.h!!

E favor Bayern yet teams spending waaaaay less than us are able to win the league!

Bayern did not get to where it is today by accident or shortcuts! We have shown that we can win by playing beautiful football and still keep accounts in the black

The only issue Bundesliga has is TV money! Once they start making more money from TV rights that's all!

Unlike EPL that even with billionaire sugar daddies and TV money it is still essentially a one-team league

dademola: Dts y bayern is d only german club dt can attract d best playas in world. We r in an era where money runs things in d soccer world, so d earlier dos daf.t german clubs realise dia folly, d betta d budesliga is!! D EPL is so exciting bro! I'm sure ronaldo wld rada play for swansea, dan for him to even train with schalke 04!

With all the money all of una spend it was still an all-German final! Too bad Platini lacks balls most of yall Premiership teams shouldn't even be in Europe

What is exciting about EPL? Who wants to watch Stoke,Sunderland,Aston Villa,Liverpool hoof the ball up the pitch for 90mins?

We all saw what a Final should look like less than 2 and a half months ago when the Bundesliga invaded England

The EPL is an overhyped and overrated league! A one-team league which one would have thought would be more competitive given the superior TV deals and influx of foreign ownership

dayokanu: Arsenal is the immediate rivals of Man utd and that didn't stop them from buying arsenals captain rvp.
What birthright could be worse than that without any resistance.

Leeds won the league next thing Man Utd bought Cantona off them. Which chancing pass that.

Leeds reached the cl semi and Man Utd bought their best defender.

Spurs trying to rise next thing Man Utd bought their best striker Sheringham and Berbatov

No wonder they won 13 league in 20 yrs and three times in a row twice

I even forgot about Berbatov! Imagine! If Tottenham had Berbatov think of how good they would have been with Gareth Bale maturing and guys like Walker and Vertonghen as well now all they have is Defoe and an inconsistent Adebayor! They even had Ronaldo,Tevez and Rooney at the time if that's not weakening I don't know what it is

dademola: and ts also worthy of mention dt manutd didnt win d league by a 25 point margin!! D bundesliga was virtually decided in d middle of last season, so both BVB and bayern cld face europe squarely without any hinderance!!

What are you saying ninja? Facing Europe squarely does not guarantee anything Man U where running away with the league last season as well why didn't they face Europe squarely?

dademola: u know wot i meant wen i talked about buying frm rivals. U wnt see manutd chasing aguero or yaya toure or david silva up and down d streets of manchester. As per d coefficient ish, come back here wen d bundesliga topples d EPL. I wnt join issues with u on 08/09 wateva. D difference btwn bayern and d oda bundesliga teams is waaaaaay to much!!

Is it before or after the billions came in? Weakening the smaller teams is even worse because they lack the pull to attract quality and the ones they manage to groom you snatch from them! Bayern can lose home and away to Dortmund and still win the league whereas Utd weaken the smaller teams about (17 of them to choose from) which means 6 pts is sure from those teams

Aston Villa sold Ashley Young to Man U spent last two seasons trying to avoid relegation

Phil Jones to Blackburn: Blackburn don relegate

Antonio Valencia to Wigan: Where is Wigan now?

RVP to Arsenal: Man U wins league! Arsenal drop from 3rd to 4th

So I ask who is weakening who?

dademola: 13 and 11! Wots d difference?? Mtcheew!! Who's fault is it dt investors aint going to d bundesliga?? Isnt it cos dey already knw d league is hopeless and worthless, and it wld be a darn waste of money and resources??all dos 100+1 rules blahblahbah bullshi.t
r jez strategies to ensure dt bayern wld continue to dominate d bundesliga FOR EVER!! I made mention of d coefficient ish, jez to butress d fact dt epl clubs perform betta in europe dan der bundesliga counterparts.( it even shows in d seeding for d group stage). Bundesliga... A league where bayern dictates d players oda clubs wld register for a season!!

If you gave me money to buy 13 cars and I only supplied 11 what would you say? If billionaires are buying Monaco,Anzhi Makachala,Malaga etc is it financially solvent clubs like Schalke,Dortmund etc with minimal liabilities they wouldn't buy? Lool are you serious at all? I'm telling you that law was implemented to keep club ownership within the fans and long-term associates of the club! If it favors just Bayern why are the other clubs not complaining? If Platini was serious about FFP a lot of EPL clubs would probably not make Europe

Even with the billions in TV money EPL clubs with foreign owners and all that shebang they all still got owned in Europe

dademola: baba.. Weakening isnt weakening!! Ts different in d epl. Bayern can afford to buy d whole of BVB, if dey want too!! BVB dt placed 2nd faa!! Choi!! German clubs r competing in europe, and bayern is d only german club dt virtually get to be seeded for d group stages. So much for competing!! NB.. Dnt bring d 3 lions into dis.. Cos i hate dem FYI.

Bayern can afford to buy the whole of BVB same way PSG can afford to buy the whole of Barca and Man City can afford to buy Utd as well! What is your point really?

The English league aint competitive that some billionaires turn your clubs to private play things doesn't mean your league is competitive! It is still Man U and the rest! When you show me how City and Chelsea would even dream of winning the EPL without oil money maybe I can take you serious! Clubs like Dortmund,Stuttgart,Bremen and Wolfsburg have been able to win the league in Germany without outspending Bayern! Tell us why you have to spend over a billion dollars just to win a league title in England in recent years?

Last season all 7 German teams made it past the first round in Europe that's competing!