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El Guapo: [color=#0066ff]Since u're seeking for cheap attention, i'd put aside negligence and dust u up to stardom.

Kakuta failed at Chelsea cos he Joined a Club star studded to the brim. Hence, he never got a chance to display his goodies, that left us with an option, to loan him out and hoping he'd 'mutate' into something extraordinary, extraordinary enough to get him in the mix. But he never helped himself! Yeah he didnt.

When he got the chance to play, he gave away possession 26% of the time he tried a pass, the most for a Chelsea Outfielder.

He only created one shot, five less than Joe Cole.

How many dribbles did he complete? Zero!

In one game, Adam Phillip [now known as Adam Coombes] scored the same amount of goals Kakuta did in his entire Reserve League South Season (3).


Matic, Sturridge, Borini and Josh were more assertive.

Loaning him to Fulham was fraught with danger - He couldn't have easily displaced Duff or Dempsey to the pecking order!

The loan to Bolton was an unmitigated disaster - That even Miyiachi did alot to question the frenchman's worth.

He scored and created a combined six goals In 12 starts for Dijon but it was impossible to turn a dismal eye to his decision-making.
He led ligue 1 in being dispossessed of possession per game (4.6).

Did ur dead brain tell u that 475 players in France's top-flight completed a higher percentage of passes (65.5+) than Kakuta (65.4)?[/color]

chelseaguy: Bayern Munich are ridiculous... am afraid Bundesliga would be boring for them. Thiago is fast looking like a steal now. Very promising from what I have seen...

dayokanu: I'm sure Wengers new deal would be signed sharply but to sign Higuain na WAEC

debosky: Arsenal can afford Higuain - with the new Emirates deal bringing in £30m extra every season. How much is Higuain again? £37m? Are you now claiming that, without the Emirates deal, Arsenal can't afford to pay £7m player?

This is not even factoring in the yet to be officially confirmed Puma deal, which will bring in another estimated £30m per year, or the improved revenue from the TV deals in which will likely double what Arsenal makes from £55m at the moment?

What is in dispute is whether Arsenal will spend. The club definitely can spend if it chooses to.

debosky: Is proudlybollocks around to provide any updates?



Have they actually hiked the price? Was he ever available at the rumoured £23m? Is Arsenal actually interested and have Arsenal actually made any bids?

It's interesting how you're selectively treating rumour and conjecture as fact.

Roland17: Depends on what you are also reading

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8835023/carlo-ancelotti-denies-deal-agreed-to-sell-real-madrid-striker-gonzalo-higuain-to-napoli

Higuain scored in yesterday's friendly for Madrid.

Fabville: I don't understand why you are bringing this in. When did Chelsea become a standard for you to measure a team's strength?
What i am saying is that Martinez could not prevent Ath. Madrid from walloping them three nil the way he was key to Bayern winning the UCL. The main job in Bayern's defensive midfield is done by Scheini.

He has the worst disciplinary record in Europe and in La Liga in that season.
He was far away from Fellaini despite him not playing in Europe.
You have not been able to prove me wrong on these.
Thank God that you said you know all these before forking out 40 mil euros to buy him.


Whether is good enough or not is not what brought about this.
I have posted statistics that showed that Fellaini rank higher than Martinez.
The fact is that he's better than the Martinez you bought for 40 mil euros.



This shows that you no nothing about Fellaini. Who turned him into a box-to-box midfielder and where did they turn him into this?
It is on record that he has been a box-to-box player since his days at Liege and because of this he won the Ebony Shoe in 2008. A player with the bolded up will never be a box-to-box midfielder.

If you don't know the meaning of box-to-box midfielder, here is it:
The term "box-to-box" is often used to refer to the most dynamic all-round/complete midfielders, who provide both defensive and attacking prowess.[4] The most versatile of players, they typically possess exceptional stamina and are usually skilled at tackling, passing, shooting and also good at keeping possession. Examples of a box-to-box midfielders are: Arturo Vidal,[5] Yaya Toure,[5]Aaron Ramsey, Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard, Paulinho, Claudio Marchisio, Selçuk İnan, Marouane Fellaini, Lothar Matthäus, Roy Keane and Daniele De Rossi.
See those that are in his category. Where is your Javi Martinez there?



I said it that you do not know this player. He can play both as a defensive midfielder and as a central defender.
Bilbao's coach Marcelo Bielsa used him regularly as a central defender during his time there. So, i don't know what you are talking about that he was played in the CB.
If that is not his original position why then did Pep said that he will be using him in center back so as to accommodate Thiago in his team?



His job as a defensive midfielder is to rack up 17 yellow cards and three red cards in a season as a defensive midfielder. Definitely he is a dirty defensive midfielder comparable to Lassana Diara. Do you know that it was because of the same disciplinary record that Diarra couldn't make it at R. Madrid under JM?



They are both defensive midfielder. The only is that Schweini is a deep-lying-plamaker while Martinez is a holding midfielder. Meaning that Scheini is taking so much attention away from him from his play making role. If pressure is on the other team, he will make less errors.



You haven't shown me anything to prove this.
Maybe if he had been sent off against Arsenal and Arsenal knocked your team out then you would have said it was because of him that you couldn't win the UCL.



Thoroughly outplayed indeed! Your team had 21 shots, 9 on target not entered the net and you are saying they managed to escape. This is funny! Did they pack-the-bus or did they tie your players legs.
This is a disgrace to your team for Arsenal to have only 5 shots on goal, 3 on target and two went inside. Who was more efficient? You are here talking that they manage to escape when at the dying minute of the match your players were taking the ball to the corner and throwing line in order to waste time. Find something else to say.



Don't even go there. How many teams are in your Bundesliga? Your league plays lesser number of games compared to EPL. Despite playing lesser number of games, they still go on break to rest. EPL is stronger, faster and more competitive than your Bundesliga. Check out the statistics i post.



You must be kidding! This simply shows that you were never a footballer. You shouldn't have said this in a public forum like this. Tackling is one of the basic skills of a defensive midfielder and the most important. Check out from what i post.


I will not respond to this because you do not know understand the role he is playing at Everton.



That is not correct. In his first season 2008/09 he scored 8 goals; 2009/10 2 goals; 2010/11 1 goal; 2011/12 3 goals; 2012/2013; 11 goals. So, where did you get your 6 goals from. Get your facts right before posting.
I don't know where you are getting your facts from. They have both have 8 years career and Martinaz have scored 26 goals from 228 app. while Fellaini have scored 34 goals from 200 apps.



All these are rumours just like you said down there. Show me where the coach made an attempt to sign him not where some press were peddling rumours about.



That is an insult to Barca to think that they cannot afford him. How much did they buy Ibra and Neymar that they cannot afford to pay 40 mil euro for a player they badly need? The fact is that he was overpriced at that price. That was why no top spanish clubs went for him.
Come to think of it. Let's say Barca have interest in him and bought him. Is he going to displace Busquet or Masherano in the team? Are you telling me that he is better than these two in that role? You must be joking. He will rot on the bench unless they use him as a CB. Barca never had any interest in him.

Those links you posted are from individual's interest in the player and not that of the coach. Is Francesc Tomàs part of Barca coaching crew or a columnist? How can you believe these? Som Man Utd columnists have also written similar article on how Strootman will solve Man Utd's defensive midfield problem with the coach not even bidding for him.



This is an insult to the owners of Man City that they don't have the money buy Martinez! Do you know how much they have spent since they bought Man City? Have Bayern spent up to half of what they have spent in the same period? They simply didn't want to buy him because he was overpriced.
Barca will never jump at your karate man because he is not better than Busquet, Macherano and Song.



I will post something to let you know that he was courted by Bayern


So why haven't yall gone for him since? Like I said when he consistently gets courted by big clubs across Europe get back to me

Yeah like Fellaini isn't liable to rough tackles

Fabville: I don't understand why you are bringing this in. When did Chelsea become a standard for you to measure a team's strength?

Fabville: What i am saying is that Martinez could not prevent Ath. Madrid from walloping them three nil the way he was key to Bayern winning the UCL. The main job in Bayern's defensive midfield is done by Scheini.

Fabville: He has the worst disciplinary record in Europe and in La Liga in that season.

Fabville: He was far away from Fellaini despite him not playing in Europe.
You have not been able to prove me wrong on these.

Fabville: Thank God that you said you know all these before forking out 40 mil euros to buy him.

Fabville: Whether is good enough or not is not what brought about this.
I have posted statistics that showed that Fellaini rank higher than Martinez.
The fact is that he's better than the Martinez you bought for 40 mil euros.

Fabville: This shows that you no nothing about Fellaini. Who turned him into a box-to-box midfielder and where did they turn him into this?
It is on record that he has been a box-to-box player since his days at Liege and because of this he won the Ebony Shoe in 2008. A player with the bolded up will never be a box-to-box midfielder.
If you don't know the meaning of box-to-box midfielder, here is it:
The term "box-to-box" is often used to refer to the most dynamic all-round/complete midfielders, who provide both defensive and attacking prowess.[4] The most versatile of players, they typically possess exceptional stamina and are usually skilled at tackling, passing, shooting and also good at keeping possession. Examples of a box-to-box midfielders are: Arturo Vidal,[5] Yaya Toure,[5]Aaron Ramsey, Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard, Paulinho, Claudio Marchisio, Selçuk İnan, Marouane Fellaini, Lothar Matthäus, Roy Keane and Daniele De Rossi.
See those that are in his category. Where is your Javi Martinez there?

Fabville: I said it that you do not know this player. He can play both as a defensive midfielder and as a central defender.
Bilbao's coach Marcelo Bielsa used him regularly as a central defender during his time there. So, i don't know what you are talking about that he was played in the CB.

Fabville: If that is not his original position why then did Pep said that he will be using him in center back so as to accommodate Thiago in his team?

Fabville: His job as a defensive midfielder is to rack up 17 yellow cards and three red cards in a season as a defensive midfielder.

Fabville: Definitely he is a dirty defensive midfielder comparable to Lassana Diara. Do you know that it was because of the same disciplinary record that Diarra couldn't make it at R. Madrid under JM?

Fabville: They are both defensive midfielder. The only is that Schweini is a deep-lying-plamaker while Martinez is a holding midfielder. Meaning that Scheini is taking so much attention away from him from his play making role. If pressure is on the other team, he will make less errors.

Fabville: You haven't shown me anything to prove this.
Maybe if he had been sent off against Arsenal and Arsenal knocked your team out then you would have said it was because of him that you couldn't win the UCL.

Fabville: Thoroughly outplayed indeed! Your team had 21 shots, 9 on target not entered the net and you are saying they managed to escape.
This is funny! Did they pack-the-bus or did they tie your players legs.
This is a disgrace to your team for Arsenal to have only 5 shots on goal, 3 on target and two went inside. Who was more efficient? You are here talking that they manage to escape when at the dying minute of the match your players were taking the ball to the corner and throwing line in order to waste time. Find something else to say.

Fabville: Don't even go there. How many teams are in your Bundesliga? Your league plays lesser number of games compared to EPL. Despite playing lesser number of games, they still go on break to rest. EPL is stronger, faster and more competitive than your Bundesliga. Check out the statistics i post.

Fabville: You must be kidding! This simply shows that you were never a footballer. You shouldn't have said this in a public forum like this. Tackling is one of the basic skills of a defensive midfielder and the most important. Check out from what i post.

Fabville: I will not respond to this because you do not know understand the role he is playing at Everton.

Fabville: That is not correct. In his first season 2008/09 he scored 8 goals; 2009/10 2 goals; 2010/11 1 goal; 2011/12 3 goals; 2012/2013; 11 goals. So, where did you get your 6 goals from. Get your facts right before posting.

Fabville: I don't know where you are getting your facts from. They have both have 8 years career and Martinaz have scored 26 goals from 228 app. while Fellaini have scored 34 goals from 200 apps.

Fabville: All these are rumours just like you said down there. Show me where the coach made an attempt to sign him not where some press were peddling rumours about.

Fabville: That is an insult to Barca to think that they cannot afford him. How much did they buy Ibra and Neymar that they cannot afford to pay 40 mil euro for a player they badly need? The fact is that he was overpriced at that price.

Fabville: That was why no top spanish clubs went for him.
Come to think of it. Let's say Barca have interest in him and bought him. Is he going to displace Busquet or Masherano in the team? Are you telling me that he is better than these two in that role? You must be joking. He will rot on the bench unless they use him as a CB. Barca never had any interest in him.

Fabville: Those links you posted are from individual's interest in the player and not that of the coach. Is Francesc Tomàs part of Barca coaching crew or a columnist? How can you believe these? Som Man Utd columnists have also written similar article on how Strootman will solve Man Utd's defensive midfield problem with the coach not even bidding for him.

Fabville: This is an insult to the owners of Man City that they don't have the money buy Martinez! Do you know how much they have spent since they bought Man City? Have Bayern spent up to half of what they have spent in the same period? They simply didn't want to buy him because he was overpriced.
Barca will never jump at your karate man because he is not better than Busquet, Macherano and Song.

Fabville: I will post something to let you know that he was courted by Bayern

Roland17: The deal has broken down, Napoli can't match the asking price of 35 million...

dayokanu: Game over now. Muller scores the final goal. Were you able to watch the game at all?

Can UEFA allow us to skip the Bundesliga and just start from the CL knockouts?

Johnpaul88: Barcelona are holding talks with
both Luis Enrique and Tata
Martino and will decide in the
coming hours who'll become
the new coach. [sport]

I thought the decision have been made. Anyway finding a coach for the best club in the world is not going to be as easy as finding one for the best team in, say, Germany or France.

Fabville: You want the history of the player you used so much money to buy and i'll give it to you

Fabville: Why didn't he played that key role in winning the Europa league cup for Bilbao instead of losing scandalously to Ath. Madrid in the final? It was from his defensive midfield position that Ath. Madrid scored three unreplied goals. They would have even scored more but because they were wasteful.

Fabville: That is because he is being underrated. When a big club buys him we'll revisit this.

Fabville: Fellaini is not just an attacking midfielder, he is a box-to-box midfielder. It was last last season that he operated more in the attacking midfield. In his early years at in Belgium and Everton, he was used more as a defensive midfielder and only on some occasions when their srikers had injuries that he was pushed forward as an attacking midfielder.
This shows you that he is more of an all round midfielder (box-to-box midfielder) than Javi Martinez.

Fabville: I can see that you do not know the player you bought and i will tell you how rough he is.
In 2011/2012 when he played last for Bilbao. This was also the season he had a run in the Europa league up till the final where they were thrashed three nil.

1. He played 30(1) (2561 mins) games in all competitions. He was booked 17 times in all competitions and out of these 17, he was booked 5 times in Europe. He was also sent of 3 times in the season and one of the red cards was 2 yellow cards.
What do you now say about a player who can be hot-headed? Can you now see how rash he was.

Fabville: Also in 2010/2011 season, he played 35 games (2918 mins) and was cautioned (yellow carded) 11 times.

Fabville: As a matter of fact, it is Schweinsteinger that is protecting him from all these flaws but he was later exposed in your match against Arsenal.

Fabville: 2. I know you are a Bayern fan but because Bayern wasted 40 mill Euro to take him to your club you will want to justify that kind of huge amount of money.

Fabville: In the match that Arsenal played against Bayern at Allianz Arena where Arsenal humiliated Bayern at home. Who was there? It was Javi Martinez. Who wasn't there? It was Schweini. Javi Martinez was even lucky to be on the pitch for the 90mins after doing a Taekwondo on Rosicky's chest. That is how dirty he is. If he had done that while playing for Bilbao, i can bet it that the refree would have given him a straight red.

Fabville: 3. For him to have had such a bad disciplinary record in La Liga that is not fast paced as EPL, i wonder how many red and yellow cards he would have been given if he was to be playing in the EPL. Is Bundesliga as fast as EPL? No and that shows the reason why Feallaini's fouls will be higher than his.

Fabville: You also say tackle is not important. I dey laugh!!!

Fabville: Fellaini have only been sent off only once in his playing career. What does that tell you?

Fabville: I wasn't even talking about Fellaini's offensive statistics because Javi Martinez is nowhere near Fellaini in that area.

Fabville: Man City was interested in him! To displace who? Yaya Toure, Gareth Barry, or De Jong who is like for like? You are funny.

Fabville: Did you ever have a thought that why didn't R. Madrid and Barca go for your highly rated Martinez? They will never go for a player with such disciplinary record.

Barca wasn't interested in him. If they were they would have gotten him. Before Barca go ond get players outside La Liga, they will first search for such player within La Liga and it is when they don't see any player who match the kind of player they are looking for that they will then look up to other leagues.

Fabville: Barca saw him before they went for Alex Song. They knew the guy was overpriced coupled with his disciplinary records.

Fabville: Finally, at the time Fellaini was bought by Everton in 2008 when he was 20 years old, there were interest from R. Madrid, Aston Villa and even your Bayern with a strong interest but he choose to go to Everton because of playing time. for his developement.

Fabville: At that time, Man Utd made contact with his agent persuading him not to sign a new contract with Liege so to sign him but they refused and he signed a new contract with Liege before Everton went for him.

Who is this Karate guy? Please let me know.

Fabville: He was only fortunate to find himsel in a good team that won the UCL.

Fabville: You took the one you wanted out of the stats. Those one you quoted improved as a result of him playing with better players where he won't be exposed so much.

Fabville: Add these to the stats:
He was dribbled 0.9 times in the league while Fellaini was dribble in 0.4 times. Fellaini played more league matches than Martinez and was dribbled far lesser than Martinez.

Fabville: Fellaini made more tackles than Martinez.

Fabville: Fellaini also made more clearance than Martinez.

Fabville: So what are you talking about? His statistics rose after he moved to Bayern.

Fabville: You can see his statistics when he was in Bilbao compared to Fellaini in 2011/2012. It shows that Fellaini was better than Matinez.

Fabville: How many teams was he linked to along with Bayern during the last transfer window? I believe non other than Bayern. If he was so good it wouldn't be Bayern alone.

Fabville: How many times and was he the main player who dragged them to Europa league?

Fabville: Was is it not the release clause the club put on him in other to ward off big club from buying him. He was overpriced.
This is what you asked for:

Fabville: Where was Matinez before Bayern but him? That is exactly what the graph showed. His rating started rising when he started playing for Bayern.

You can see that in 2011/2012 when he was still at Bilbao and Fellaini with Everton, he was far far lower to Fellaini in the ranking. That is exactly what the graph is showing to us. His rating started rising from October 2012 and still he is yet to get up to Fellaini.

dayokanu: Seeing the pass Thiago gave now in the Telekom cup for the 2nd goal

I have to once again say

[size=18pt]THANK YOU BARCELONA[/size]

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AjanleKoko: PSG has signed Marquinhos.
Maybe Silva is still coming. Daring to hope

Fabville: Yeah, this is exactly what i am talking about.

SailorXY: There is no base for this comparism. If/when Fellaini joins up with United (or a top rate team) then we can revisit this issue. Fellaini plays at Everton *big fish small kettle* time will tell if he is really up there with the kings

Fabville: It is because Fellaini he's playing for Everton that he is being underrated. For what i saw Fellaini played last season, i believe he is better than Martinez. I will search for their statistics later.

Fabville: He is better than him. Is it by playing against Iniesta that you'll know who is better? Has Fellaini played against Iniesta for you to now use that to compare the two? Don't get you.

Fabville: As it stands, i will prefer us going for Fellaini. He has improved his game a lot considering his performances during last season.

His buyout clause okay compared to how much Bayern bought Javi Martinez from Bilbao last season and he is better than Jarvi Martinez. He is a box-to-box midfielder. He is the type of battler we need in that midfield.

If we go for him, he will be willing to play for Utd with David Moyes's influence. He is the only one we can get now for David Moyes to prove himself come next season.

Johnpaul88: Move on Baba! Everyone else have!

chamotex: I'm giving you a special one

chamotex: Who hasn't got the codes still?

bellong: There are sufficient funds available to the manager.’ – Edelman, September 2005.

…the effect means we can spend more on transfers over the next 15 years.’ – Edelman, May 2006.
‘If Arsene came to us and said he wanted to spend £40m on a player we could do that.’ – Edelman, Sept 2007.

‘We remain firmly committed to substantial investment in the playing squad.’ – Chairman Peter Hill-Wood, Sept 2008.
‘We’ve got a substantial amount of money to invest.’ – chief executive Ivan Gazidis, Sept 2009.
‘The club is secure – we have sufficient funds to invest.’ – Gazidis, May 2010.
‘In January and in the summer there will be significant funds available to bolster the team.’ – Gazidis, Sept 2011.
‘All the money we make is available to the manager.’ – Gazidis, May 2012.
‘It’s all about giving us the capability to go to the manager and say “here is the money for you to compete”.’ – Gazidis, June 2013.

The next time anybody say this again, I'm not going 2 believe anymore。This is the last time. Waiting to see how the 70M bucks will be spent this summer.

tonydoes: we did 20million euros..but the deal broke down when fiorentina started playing games by opening talks with Juve simulteanously...i bear them no grudge tho but lets call a spade a spade,it bordered on greed

chamotex: Higuan is in Asia with the team now...proudlybollocks no tell you?