₦airaland Forum

tylann:
Yes Nigeria has alot of potentials but you are not utilizing them
South Africa is the real giant of Africa from their economy to their infrastructure it is top notch

Being the giant is not all about wealth.That's what you guys don't get.Its all about influence.Is USA the richest country in the world? Exactly.Even S.A. knows Nigeria has the most influence.Look it up.

rvp20183:
Nigeria Airforce versus Kenya Airforce.

Poor Nigeria - where are you fighters Jets. No wonder you cannot beat Boko Haram. To beat insurgency force like Boko-haram you need airforce that can respond quickly. Not tanks

Kenya Airforce will definitely eat Nigeria Airforce lunch - and that is why our campaign against Alshabaab has been largely successfully.

In fact the only place Nigeria beat Kenya Airforce is on attack helicopters - I believe Kenya acquired some from China - and we are getting crop-dusters that can loaded with explosives from US - soon.

Actually Kenya acquired Cobras (attack helicopter) from Jordan - Not sure the number - but maybe 25 of them. So Kenya Airforce beat Nigeria Airforce.

https://thenewsrep.com/85522/kenyan-air-force-gets-second-hand-ah-1-cobra-attack-helicopters-jordan/

Stop buying second hand cobras from Jordan.And yes the mi35 is better than the cobra.You really need to stop overhyping Kenya.Nigeria obviously has a better air force.Using Vietnam war vet choppers to brag.And seriously? crop dusters? Those planes used for farming? Sounds like what bh will use Nigeria is buying super tucano you are bragging with farmers used planes! And we are also buying jf17 which is being compared to f16 . And the su3O which Russia and China use.Some have already landed. read somewhere than Kenya is buying USED f5s.
Another Vietnam vet!

rvp20183:
Very funny

So you want to bring Kenya's crappy air force into this matter?

tylann:
I know nigerians i have met some of them here in kenya i know they weird behaviours
Always talking loudly
They think they are the most important species of africans
When arrested they start playing victims saying how other people are jealous of they success

Every country has its bad eggs.Kenyans are also deported from other countries.And another thing that surfaced is people from orher countries using nigerias name to commit crime.Recently a 'nigerian Prince' was caught in the US.He was an American.Judging a country by some criminals actions abroad is just silly.

Jonraid:
Post a damn link. Don't just post she*t without backing it up !

I don't know how.Honestly.If you're so bent on seeing it Google it and be amazed.
You guys should have thought twice before bringing in our militaries!!

tylann:
Exactly

You guys are sad.It's just like I make a video expressing my hate for Ghanaians and then Nigerians start praising me for saying the 'truth'.How would you guys look at us saying 'yes','expose them' ? That's how we look at you right now.
I don't know what's sadder.The fact some grumpy safrican who hates Nigeria made a video to express it or the fact that some reasonable Kenyans are lauding him for doing so.
Desperate times indeed call for desperate measures!

Jonraid:
Source ?

G.O.O.G.L.E.
Google it stead of asking for source.I seriously don't know how to post link here so I can't provide a source.

Jonraid:
All those men in your military being funded by a billion dollar?

How much is Kenya's? about 1 billion? Nigeria's is 1.6 to be precise.

edon21:
and as I said before ,twice or thrice of Kenya can't beat Nigeria. not in man power, technology, funding, hardware, vessels, tanks, etc


not even in international recognition
and to add to that if there's a war, your capital is more prone than Abuja.
I know that you are all aware

The way he talks like Kenya's army is unbeatable! Nigeria army still will woop them so I don't know why he's hyping them.Comparing the desperate alshaabab with boko haram that had the guts to challenge Nigeria's superior army to a near conventional war.

agboedeh:
the truth of d matter is DAT a trained Caucasian,and kangal are not in d same league with a trained malinois and gsd.
the reason police forces recruit the Mali and gsd is because of their intelligence,speed,loyalty and agility.
what we sud compare the malinois with is d gsd not Caucasian or kangal. Caucasian and kangal are bred to guard livestock not to do police work because if all what d military look for in a dog is strength, then the gsd and malinois would be their last option.

I think a new thread sud be opened for dis argument so as not to derail this one.

Seconded

ImFortress:
Before we start to derail this Malinois thread, they're not in the same league.

They weren't bred for the same purpose.

One is big the other is small


One is Slow, the other is Fast.

One will tire out due to size and fat level, the other can go on for a long time.

One just wants to do, the other is ready to follow orders.

One believes in strength, the other believes in stamina and agility.

One is not so intelligent, the other is a smart ass.

One can't go under cover, the other can go under cover.


One is Serie A, the other La Liga


Should I Continue?

Now I hope I have successfully confused and by so doing convinced you that they're not in the same league


Thank you

I said over and over that malinois were better working dogs.The only reason I quoted you was because you said Caucasian got tired easily and couldn't guard people and property.That's what I wanted to debunk.They are not like other big dogs that tire out fast.They can actually go on for a long time.
And I've already spoken on the guarding part.What made me to start talking here was just me expressing my preference for strength over speed.Then things went out of hand and started derailing this thread.In fact I want to delete my previous comments.

rvp20183:
Don't conflate personal achievement with country achievement.

Nigeria can never make black race proud - not with it's well earned reputation for
1) Stupidity - selling 2m barrels of oil & earning 600B dollars - with nothing to show.
2) Crime & drug dealing - well earned global reputation - soiling black race. You can add international prostitution.
3) Fraud & Corruption - the same - you cannot do online purchase or many things from Africa thanks to Nigeria 419.
4) Poverty - Nigeria is now the capital of poverty - the image of poor indians defacating in the open - has been replaced with Nigerian.
5) Terrorism - They are exporting terror to regional neigbours through BokoHaram.
6) Immigration - Nigeria are trying to escape Africa like there was war in their country. You can add human trafficking.

WE HAVE A BIG POPULATION!!!!!!!! Arghhh!!!!! There's nothing in immigrating to other countries.And pls just because Nairobi has big water problems don't export it to other cities in the world like it's a normal thing.Honestly Nairobi is the first big city I've seen with this problem.Most of the rich places in Lagos run their own power grids and Nigeria isn't like Kenya where slums are recognised as states.Honestly the 'slums' are just a mixture of new and old buildings.Not like kibera that's just rolling plains of crap! Stop acting like Lagos and Nairobi face the same problems and Nairobi is solving theirs while Lagos just sits down.Did you at least look at a recent Lagos pic before you started dishing out achievements? Tower cranes always pop up in new Lagos pics.Currently they're building a fourth mainland bridge so stop acting like we are just sitting down.

ImFortress:
Lol I've been reading and lmao.

To start with, you guys shouldn't go into anymore of arguments with Adebayo, he's far more experienced than any of you, so it's advisable to think before you talk.

Oluomoadebayo why you wan do ojoro?



1. Almost every untrained dog will ball under pressure even a Malinois

2. Caucasians were bred to fight off wolves, not personal protection/patrol


3. These dogs (Malinois) are patrol dogs, you can't expect a bulky dog with that kind of Agility and Stamina, so rule out your Caucasians and Kangals, those guys are just for short burst.


4. You can't compare Malinois to a Caucasian, they're not in the same league.


What else have I not mentioned.

IfeCastro says#

Caucasians are used to guard prisons,military bases by the Russian military and yes personal property too.They are quite agile for their size.But they aren't excellent attack dogs though.

oluomoadebayo:
It is obvious you know nothing about dogs other than the online information. Working dogs is about effectiveness, not size. I will stop arguing with you because I have less time for facebook trainer like you. Good luck with your theory and stay safe. Before, I leave here is a link for where caucasian are being trained to attack.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL-lnkKoS5o

I remember saying that Caucasians and their kind were better GUARD dogs not working dogs.I also remember saying they were not as good working dogs as gsd and co as they are clumsy and not as smart.But I'm tried of this argument.It's pointless, uneccesary and uncalled for.This isn't a dog vs dog thread.Apologies.

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darfay:
What does he even know about Nigeria?

He thinks bh is alshaabab that will send 4 men.Bh uses a force comparable to a strong milita yet Nigeria army as underfunded as it is records victories.

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Jonraid:
The situation is now getting more complex with now the emergence of ISIS in Somalia who are looking to be Al Shabab's headache as they want piece of the Somalia nation too.

Every war has its casualties.We shouldn't make fun of our soldiers when they lose men.That's one thing I don't like about some Nigerians especially ipobists.They laugh when Nigerian soldiers die fighting boko haram.That's just wrong.

samsobo24:
Kenyans excuse and failure for advanced bus systems (BRT)

Kaduna,Enugu,IB,Abeokuta and many states all have BRT systems but not as advanced as Lagos

They won't go and develop transport they are busy painting buses!

dorcky:
Following the current trend in the military zone recently , the malinois are taking over German Shepard cos of their drive and activeness and in fact they are working dogs .

Even do you know that German Shepard are in 3 categories .
I don’t think those backing Gsd knows these . And the working line are not for show or regular but hardly seen .
Thanks

I know that gsd has different kinds.But seriously malinois is being overrated here.Especially their intelligence.They are still not more intelligent than gsd.It is faster and can run down criminals better than gsd.I think it also has better sense of smell.That's why they are overtaking gsd in the working dog role.But as for me I prefer gsd cos of the strength advantage though I can't deny malinois are very good working dogs.

oluomoadebayo:
So sad, people relied so much on stories than a personal experience. Let us do it this way, I will come to invade your house in a simulation of a real scenario, release your Caucasian or Rottwieller but put 50k at your doorstep. If I can go with the money, it is mine, if I'm attacked it's yours. How about that?

I dont want to start treating someone to prove a point.Caucasians and the like are better guard dogs than malinois and their kind but malinois and co are better working dogs.But they can still switch roles and excel at them.Reason this,if malinois are such excellent guard dogs why don't they use them to guard prisons and big buildings? They are smarter but it's not smartness that will take down well built men.That's what caucs rotts and boerbels were bred for.Brute strength.Not their intelligence.The people that use gsd at airports and barracks use them for intelligence and for the fact that they can be called off a chase.They are also more agile and faster than big strong dogs.But when it's time to fight they still fall back on big dogs.E.g. the battle of stalingrad in ww2.It is the deadliest battle in history.Caucasians fought alongside Russian soldiers in that war and took out machine gun positions.One bullet wasn't enough to bring them down.Can a malinois do that? but gsd and malinois are used as spies which Caucasian and mastiffs can't do due to their size and unintelligence.Do you get my point?

oluomoadebayo:
It will be fun.

I don't want!

oluomoadebayo:
Most dogs you mentioned will run away under serious pressure from an intruder. People are breeding them for size now instead of the spirit.

Its not all.Breeds like Caucasians and kangals fight to the end.I heard of a Caucasian that took down 3 men that came to steal, with a gunshot wound.Now that's spirit.Even a kangal that killed 3 wolves.Whereas gsd and malinois are better for tracking,running down and holding down targets until it's owner gets there.That's why they are police dogs .A Rottweiler or kangal will first of all demolish the target to their satisfaction before stopping.But you can easily call off a malinois from its target.So overall big strong dogs make better guard dogs than smaller faster dogs while the latter makes better working dogs.But they can still dabble in each other's jobs a bit.This is all my opinion before someone starts hurtling facts my way!

oluomoadebayo:
You need to visit my house.

No thanks

The snake was small sha.Bigger animals can eat it.In this case lizard.

jaycent:
This is from one of the Kenyan Nairalander here, called Yobeez or whatever he posted this shitt because of me puahahahaha

They want to use south Africans to get back at their women that ran to the Nigerian hotcake!!

mhd5757:
If have seen some really fierce melonois, especially the ones they use as guard dogs, very vicious! They growl more than they bark with that their black mouth.
They make excellent guard and protection dogs.

I agree,though I'd pick strength over agility any day.In my opinion mastiffs and LGDs make the best guard dogs.Smart agile dogs like malinois and gsd are better as police and military dogs.That's their primary purpose.They use them for brains not brawn.For guard dogs rotts,Caucasians,boerbels and the like come into play.But these malinois are agile! See that one climbing fence!

gallivant:
That's pride talking, try using your brains like I have just told you.

Brains or not its the sad truth

forgiveness:
The poor ones are richer than the middle class in Kenya.

He thinks the 'extremely poor' don't have a spoon to their name.He doesnt know the so called poor are richer than some of their middle class.Because by those standards most Nigerians on this thread are extremely poor! But we all know the truth!

phemolala07:
Thanks the dog is dead

I'm so sorry for your loss.

asfrankasf:
Sirs, at least you make good research or ask good questions before shading someone else's business openly. Kangals are originally from Turkey and let me tell you from experience that Turkey is even one of the hardest place to get Kangals, make payments and I'll get you wonderful Kangals from 'where I get mine'.
Funny enough is most people that talk like this, put kangal pups in front of them and they won't be able to buy its shit. Whereas I don't think you've seen any shady complaint about me from any of my clients.

Any doubt? Come and pay and if you don't get your Kangal... I've gat a good name as well as I know anyways.
Engage in positive talks please it's 20freakin19.

Rgds
WoofPax.

I am not trying to spoil anyone's business I'm just saying what I read online.It's the same way pitbulls are illegal in some countries but they are still there.I don't know if the ban has been lifted but that's what I saw.Also some exporters can sell importers below pedigree or mixed dogs and pass them off as pure.Like how in USA sarplaninac is sold as Caucasian.But no one cares.I don't know how you got your kangals or if they are pedigree but that's what I saw online.Sometimes Turks export alabai mixes as kangals too(corruption is everywhere)Sha yours might be pedigree,me I don't know.