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Adlac:
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Don't just cross it all out, provide your lying defense as usual

Rashduct4luv:
That's good news!

Jesus too was an Abdool in Qur'an 19:30. Are you going to bust Jesus too?

"He ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: Verily! I am a slave of Allah ('ABDULLAH), He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;" QUR'AN 19:30

Lmao

Just because that wretched lying book says it, it is so? How low can an abdool not descend?

Antiislaam:
Sultan of sokoto will tell you when to start

You know for sure lol

The way they contradict themselves is amazing. They will claim one thing and be doing another thing. Sight the moon in your location that's as clear as daylight but what would abdools do? They'll rather wait for another so-called big abdool from Sokoto to decide when to start hunger strike in Ikot-Ekpene

Rashduct4luv:
Today’s date is Tuesday 26th Sha’ban 1443H = 29th March 2022.


Note: Each country is expected to sight the moon for Ramadan! Nigerians are not to use the moon sighting in Saudi Arabia to start Ramadan!

Evidence: Kurayb repoted: I came to Syria and tended to my needs. The crescent of Ramadan appeared over me while I was in Syria and I saw it on Friday, then I came to Medina at the end of the month. Abdullah ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, asked me about it and I mentioned the crescent. Ibn Abbas said, “When did you see it?” I said, “We saw it on Friday night.” Ibn Abbas said, “You saw it?” I said, “Yes, people saw it and they fasted, as did Mu’awiyah.” Ibn Abbas said, “But we saw it on Saturday night, so we will continue fasting until we complete thirty days or we see it.” I said, “Is it not enough that Mu’awiyah saw it and he fasted?” Ibn Abbas said, “No, such was the command of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1087
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

Al-Tirmidhi said, “The people of knowledge act upon this tradition, that the people of every land have their own moon sighting.”
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 693

With all these, abdools in Lagos Nigeria will still wait for the one abdool in Sokoto to tell them when to start their hunger strike lmao

Racoon:
Driver killed, many abducted, as 300 soldiers exchanged fire with terrorists – Survivor



https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/03/driver-killed-many-abducted-as-300-soldiers-exchanged-fire-with-terrorists-survivor/?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

AntiChristian your brothers are at it again. After you'll come here to claim that the best thing to happen to humanity is your stone kissing, pedophilia, bandit religion

AntiChristian:
Quote just one authentic hadith about Paul?

Who were the messenger according to Al Jalalyn, Ibn Kathir, etc?

Rashduct4luv:
Even the Tafsirs he quote has many opinions from those scholars but you decided to choose the one that has Paul which is not even authentic!

Mention the early Islamic scholars that think otherwise.

Rashduct4luv:
Amazingly Christians treat Islamic texts like their Bible that has no chain of narration.....

Chain of narration my foot, provide earlier manuscript from the 7th century that support anything Islam, I'll wait for you till 2045

AntiChristian:
Quote just one authentic hadith about Paul?

Lmao

Abdool, you are just too dumb

Are you better than Al Qurtuby? Oh! Now you know more than Ibn Ishaq? Maybe Ibn Abbas would be learning from you

AntiChristian:
So Yahweh does not have mercy during reprisal attacks that's the reason why children, infants, oxen, sheep and donkeys were killed.

Now you are making stupid sense!

God is ready to wipe them out and he does take your case to sharia court

AntiChristian:
Why can you keep telling lies like this?

1. Kill for revenge
This is what the LORD (YAHWEH) of Hosts says: ‘I witnessed what the Amalekites did to the Israelites when they ambushed them on their way up from Egypt. 3Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.
1 Samuel 15:3

A.But why kill women and infants?

B. Why kill Oxen, sheep, camels and donkeys?

C. Why kill innocent people?

2. Yahweh commands Execution by Stoning
If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
Deuteronomy 13:6-10

3. Do not follow other gods, the gods of the peoples around you; for the Lord your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land.
Deuteronomy 6:14

"4. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the Lord must be destroyed."Exodus 22:20

AntiChristian the anti-wisdom

Your mumu still never do?
Amalekites attacked first it is a reprisal.
Who has attacked Muhammad that the werey dey ask your to kill?

Emperor88:
Between Abraham and Jesus is how many years? Now add it with the time Adam was created to the time Abraham was born. My. Idiot who believed a whale swallowed someone and vomitted him after 3 days.

Conjectures

1. State where it was written in the Bible that the world was created 7k years ago

2. State where it was written that it was whale that swallowed Jonah

If not keep mute for life

Emperor88:
Same way they agreed the world was created less than 7000 years ago. Same way they agreed to all the numerous myths and jargons in the bible.

Mugu, once your lies had been bursted you cling to the straw of delusion. Who bewitched you? Who lobotomised you?
Myths and jargon can't be in the same sentence but a fool like you wouldn't have been identified if not for your folly.
Who told you that the world was created less than 7000 years ago, where in the Bible is that stated? Fool stop fooling yourself thinking you are fooling others.
Get sense and find help

AntiChristian:
Islam has the solution to the problems we face as a country! Islam can be used to successfully rule a country unlike most others!

Check it out holistically!

Same Islam that has unleash terror on the whole world?

AntiChristian what do you eat on daily basis sef? I don't understand this level of idiocy. Allah and Muhammad ask you to fight everyone who do not believe their lies. However, you want us to impose same Islam that has become a curse on the whole world? This your Islamic agenda is dead on arrival

faithsurvey:
1500-Year-Old Bible Discovered States That Jesus Was Not Crucified

This 1500-Year-Old Bible valued at $28 million States That Jesus Was Not Crucified. The Bible was found in Turkey in 2000 written in a language that was mostly spoken 2000 years ago

A bible Linked to the Gospel of Barnabas held by the Turkish government at Ankara. A book written by Saint Barnabas, one of Paul’s associates. The book was discovered when some antiquity thieves had been caught in 2000 trying to smuggle the bible and other artifacts worth millions. The book is valued at $28 million and it seems to have references to the Gospel of Barnabas from the bible. The book is handwritten in Syriac an Aramic dialect which also happens to be Jesus’ native language.

What happened to Jesus?

Experts who have analyzed the book consider that it is at least 1500 years old, but it could be even older. Within this book, the story takes a very different approach. Instead of Jesus, Judas was the one crucified and Jesus rose to heaven while he was still alive. Another very important and different aspect is that the book does not present Jesus as the son of God, but only as a prophet who spoke the word of God.

The book also calls Apostle Paul an imposter which makes things really interesting as Saint Barnabas (the believed author of this book) was an associate of Apostle Paul. Would this mean that Saint Barnabas was forced by Apostle Paul to write a different story about Jesus? It is difficult to know, but this is an interesting aspect that sort of puts Christianity in a good light from biblical events, but other religions are overlooked, such as Islam.

If Jesus did indeed rise to heaven alive, then in the eyes of some people it would make much more sense based on belief. This would also conclude with some of the codexes written around the same time that mention Jesus coming back on Earth for a millennium to bring peace upon our world and eradicate any evil human beings.

Is the book real or fake?

When the new testament was written, the council from Nicaea (known as the first council in the history of the Christian church) chose the information that would go in this bible. They deliberately left out anything that has been mentioned in the Gospel of Barnabas as well as other gospels in favor of more canonical texts.

Why is it that only a group of people are able to choose what is considered “the right and true texts”? Some say that the council had a reason behind not choosing the Gospel of Saint Barnabas and it may have something to do with the missing information about Saint Barnabas’ death. There is no information about Saint Barnabas’ death, making him the only Saint that does not have his death mentioned within the scripture.

Even the Vatican caught a big interest in this aspect of biblical events, so much that he requested to see the book, but the Turkish government had refused his request without giving a reason. All of the experts that have been allowed to analyze the book state that the bible is an original and definitely not as many people have mentioned “a hoax”. Besides the rarity of finding someone nowadays not only understanding but being able to write in Syriac, the way the book is made is very traditional to those times. All of the pages are made from animal hide and the handwriting is very difficult to replicate.

Let’s not forget that the archives at the Vatican Apostolic Library aren’t public and even for those that become scholars, they have to be over the age of 75 to gain access.
I think there is a lot more to this world and a lot of information from the biblical era is hidden away and kept secret, for what exact reason I don’t know, but usually the truth would provoke a huge negative effect.

Liar!
The book has been kept since by Turkey
Even the Vatican requested to see the book to be able to study it, a request that is yet to be granted. What is nairaland turning to these days? You guys will just go and copy one nonsense blogpost and twist truth on it head?

“…the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas…” Again, maybe. But possibly not. We actually don’t know what the book contains because it has not been widely studied. The Christian Post quotes theology professor Ömer Faruk Harman who notes that people may be “disappointed to see that this copy … might have no relation with the content of the Gospel of Barnabas.” “…which shows that Jesus was not crucified … and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in His place.” The Gospel of Barnabas does indeed purport that Judas Iscariot was crucified in Jesus’ place. But this is because this Gospel was written as an apologetic for Islam. Indeed, it
prophesies the arrival of Muhammad, but, if the 15th century dating of this Gospel is correct, it does so about 800 years after Muhammad! In other words, its prophecies are really no prophecies at all, but polemical forgeries.
It is believed that, during the Council of Nicaea, the Catholic Church hand-picked the Gospels that form the Bible as we know it today; omitting the Gospel of Barnabas (among many others) in favor of the four canonical Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

Ever since Dan Brown’s book The Da Vinci Code, this has been a canard that just won’t die. At no time during the Council of Nicaea did the Catholic Church hand-pick any Gospels. The four Gospels we have today were already widely accepted by the Church by the time of this council. If you want to read the canons issued by the Council of Nicaea for yourself, you can check them out here. None say anything about the Gospels. Indeed, none say anything about the canon of Scripture at all.

Ultimately, even if this Turkish Bible is indeed 1,500 years old and even if it does contain the Gospel of Barnabas, the Council of Nicaea was held in AD 325, which is still before the time of this Bible. Thus, part of the reason the Council of Nicaea never considered the Gospel of Barnabas during its meetings is because there was not yet a Gospel of Barnabas to consider!

It was David Hannum, criticizing P.T. Barnum, who said, “There’s a sucker born every minute.” Don’t be suckered by this Facebook article. The Bible as we have it still stands. And on it, your faith can still stand.

petra1:
But Nobody is taking about books. Na

Don't mind them, they always want to put mouth in every discussion meanwhile they have zero knowledge about most of the topics. His own mathematical knowledge is out of this world 29 + 39 = 56

Ordinary maths o, but he want to discuss bible funny lots

Emperor88:
Do you know that the first 4 books og the new testament were written by anonymous writer(s) not matthew, luke, mark or john. Many of this stories, names, places, were inserted by the those who wrote the bible. Just like king james inserted unicorn that never existed in the bible.

Another Bart Erman disciple sighted
First of all, there are no anonymous copies of the four gospels. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Every single shred of manuscript evidence we have attributes them to the traditional authors. While there is a slight variation in how they’re titled, the familiar names are all there. These go back to the most ancient copies that we possess in our hands right now. There’s no historical evidence that the originals had no titles.
The biggest problem with the anonymous gospel theory is it lacks plausibility. Consider this scenario:
You have a book floating around the Roman Empire without a title for nearly a century. But somehow, at some time, it ends up being associated with the same author repeatedly — in fact, every single time. We have 0 traces of disagreement.
And this didn’t just happen once — it happened four different times, throughout the vast Roman Empire. Somehow, by sheer luck, Christians living in Africa, Rome, Syria, and so forth attributed these gospels to the same four guys. All this without the help of email, text, social media, or Google.
If the anonymous gospel theory were correct, we’d expect to see at least some disagreement over who wrote what. But we have no contradictory titles. We don’t have a ‘Gospel According to Mark’ attributed to someone like Peter, Andrew, Simon the Zealot, Bartholemew, or whomever.

Check out the picture of the different manuscripts attached.

rhektor:
The lie above is debunked here, why do you like to disgrace yourself like this?
These are early church fathers' quotes on the crucifixion but one silly guy on nairaland want to turn truth on its head
https://www.1517.org/articles/standing-at-the-foot-of-the-cross-with-church-fathers
Cc antiislam
Abdoolbuster
Hendtime

The extant manuscripts of the book Antiquities of the Jews, written by the first-century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus around 93–94 AD, contain two references to Jesus of Nazareth and one reference to John the Baptist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus#:~:text=The%20Testimonium%20Flavianum%20(meaning%20the,most%20discussed%20passage%20in%20Josephus.


Abdool AntiChristian the liar your lie is bursted here I am Abdoolbuster here to deal with every foolish abdool on nairaland.

This taqqiya can't help y'all anymore. Go back to your dawah group where you churn out lies, you can deceive abdools like yourself but we will continue to deal with your empty cranium here

I am Abdoolbuster

kenzysmith:
Atiku abubakar 2023 insha Allah

You better carry your Allah and Atiku to your village

christejames:
The best governor in South West, engaging in all round development of the state.



Don't listen to Tinubu urchins trying to tip that one in Lagos as the best, he is only scratching at the surface compares to what that state earns.

Mugu

JayPeeOham:
At least all the agberos in Lagos can now go to school

What happens to all the miscreants in your village?

hopefulLandlord:
And on that day Yahweh didn't do shit. Although he works in mysterious ways that's suspiciously similar to random chance.
Same way he was useless when the bars came falling down in a church killing scores
same uselessness during Ozubulu church Massacre in which 35 worshippers were gunned down
There's a reason pastors use bodyguards while telling members the blood of Jesus is enough. they are knowledgeable about the uselessness of Yahweh but if mugu church members no fall by buying stickers and reflective jackets with divine protection verses printed on them then guyman pastors no go chop

Na mumu you be

hert2020:
Your hate for Islam will make you more miserable. Your churches are getting empty and the whites you follow blindly are even leaving your religion. You will find that the liars are your pastors.

"And enjoin believing women to cast down their looks1 and guard their private2 parts3 and not reveal their adornment4 except that which is revealed of itself,5 and to draw their veils over their bosoms,6 and not to reveal their adornment save to their husbands,7 or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands,8 or of their own sons, or the sons of their husbands,9 or their brothers,10 or the sons of their brothers,11 or the sons of their sisters,12 or the women with whom they associate,13 or those that are in their bondage,14 or the male attendants in their service free of sexual interest,15 or boys that are yet unaware of illicit matters pertaining to women.16 Nor should they stamp their feet on the ground in such manner that their hidden ornament becomes revealed.17 Believers, turn together, all of you, to Allah in repentance18 that you may attain true success."

We know you guys and your lies.

Do you even know how this get into the Qur'an? Olodo go and read Tafsir Al Jalalyn, Tafsir Ibn Abbas, etc try Tafsir.com for a start you go tear that useless paper called Qur'an

obailala:
..."Increase in petrol price has the greatest effect on inflation." I said it in my previous post so stop actung like an ...... that cant comprehend simple sentences.

What is this one saying báyìí?

obailala:
Whether there are buses that run on diesel, or planes that run on kerosene, all you have said does not change the fact that petrol price has the greatest on inflation. EoD!

What is the meaning of petrol having the greatest inflation? I thought I was discussing with..........

obailala:
Petrol price has the greatest influence on inflation, that's why it's a special case. And no, the rich arent the greatest beneficiaries of petrol subsidy. NNpC today is the sole importer of petrol, but even if that wasnt the case, the fact that one or 2 rich men make billions from petrol subsidy is not enough statistics to conclude that the rich are the biggest beneficiaries. That's just a flawed argument.

The food and transportation hyperinflation that comes with petrol price increase affects the poor far more than the rich, and you'd agree with me that well over 90% of Nigeria's population falls within this poor affected bracket.

What make it have greatest effect? There are buses that run on diesel, farm equipments mostly run on diesel. We are just a bunch of hypocrites fleecing the weak and trying to find justification for our actions. Petrol can increase for all I care, when kerosene, diesel and gas prices increased nobody die if petrol price increase the shock won't last past 3 months at the maximum

BruncleZuma:


Bandits going on their Government Approved Annual Leave...abeg return their savings jaré s/

mediainc:
Everyone uses fuel, the barber, the small business owner, and we all have small generators in our homes. Think!

Lmao, not all of us usess gas or kerosene? Use your head sir/ma
All of us should ask for subsidy on all Petroleum products. As for your generators it is your choice

obailala:
Apoligies but this is a very very lame argument in favour of subsidy removal; i.e. claiming it is the rich that enjoy subsidies the most because they have many cars. That's a very flawed argument and I wonder why anyone still puts it up as a worhty point.

The rich who have fleets of cars will still comfortably pay for fuel even if it's sold for N2000. The people who truly suffer from subsidy removal are the poor and lower mid-class who make up possibly over 80% of the population; these are the ones affected by the massive inflation in price of transportation, food, etc...

Sometimes I wonder where you guys get your delusions from, no apologies I mean what I typed.
The rich are the importers of petrol, they collect subsidies on imported products yet many of them don't even sell it here in the country however according to you that should continue. Why are there no subsidy on cooking gas? Why is there no subsidy on diesel? So you mean that those who uses these products are less Nigerians? Tell me what is lame again. Users of cooking gas has been paying for it, users of diesel has been paying for it so why should the users of PMS not pay completely for it?

backbencher:
Good points made

But the poor do see a benefit

Food prices

Removing subsides means that the price of transportation of food would go up , meaning prices of food go up, meaning bad news for the poor man on the street.

That would soon be mitigated, but the first few years would be hard

We either face the consequences once and for all. Let whoever is buying petrol pay for it. Subsidy regime is a stealing regime. It was created to help everyone and now has been hijacked by elite thieves to make more money. Juat present papers and get paid. Many of the fuels goes to neighbouring countries like Benin, Togo Ghana Côte d'Ivoire Cameroon etc. When there's no subsidies on petrol let's see how a fool will import petrol for Nigeria and entreport it to Ghana. As for food prices and transport going high, those would normalise in few months. As for the 5000 to poor people this also could be argued to be wrong economically however, tell me what better country don't give incentives to their people in time like this. It happened in America, Canada, in fact all the Scandinavian countries do it. Implementation might be our problem, we can always find a way to do it right

Peace ✌️

mediainc:
Fuel subsidy has better economic advantage to Nigeria and Nigerians than N5000

How advantageous is fuel subsidy that is only paid on petrol? A lot of people are kicking against the planned removal because their fleet of cars will be consuming more of their stolen funds. Shior, manufacturers have been paying for diesel, almost everyone is paying for gas and or kerosene without subsidies but petrol must not be paid for without subsidies. I ask again what is the advantage of the subsidy of petrol to the poor man beside your house

Lukgaf:
Few days ago a video was circulating on social media of a Professor making fun of and humiliating the sacred clothes of female Muslims called Hijab. The most unfortunate part of it was that the Professor himself is a Muslim. Ina Lilah was ina ilae rojiun! I am afraid the Professor is ignorant of the punishment associated with making fun of anything associated to / commanded by Allah.

"Undoubtedly mocking and making fun of something that is known to be part of Islam constitutes kufr (disbelief) that puts one beyond the pale of Islam, even if the one who does that does not mean anything more than joking, because this in and of itself is an action that puts one beyond the pale of Islam as Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“If you ask them (about this), they declare: ‘We were only talking idly and joking.’ Say: ‘Was it at Allah, and His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) that you were mocking?

Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after you had believed. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you because they were Mujrimoon (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, criminals, etc.)”

[at-Tawbah 9:65-66]. "

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/221739/making-fun-of-islam-and-repenting-from-it

It is not even Allah that told you guys to veil your women but you want to come here and lie to us, stop it

Muslims make fun of others, now they are making fun of themselves lmao
Why do you guys love to lie sef?